I'm talking about people who are swindled by and peddlers of conspiracy theories from 4chan and alt-right news sources. People who ascribe to crazy "truths" like false flags, the Clinton hit squad, globalist conspiracies, etc. People who seriously fear feminism, communism, and white genocide. People who talk about defending themselves from society and government with their guns, and running over protestors who block roads with such zeal that it reads like eager fantasizing. People who are consumed with opposition to perceived radical liberalism so fervently they can't see they are radical conservatives. When people display all those traits, they are fitting in with a pretty suspicious crowd.
I understand what you are saying, and I would also be suspicious of people like that as well. I’m still not sure who you are talking about though? Seems a bit strawman in my opinion. Then again, I don’t keep up with every poster around here to be able to say “there is 100% no one like that here”. I think I know who you are talking about on the AMT, but I have never been concerned about them to the extent that you obviously are.
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I'm talking about people who are swindled by and peddlers of conspiracy theories from 4chan and alt-right news sources. People who ascribe to crazy "truths" like false flags, the Clinton hit squad, globalist conspiracies, etc. People who seriously fear feminism, communism, and white genocide. People who talk about defending themselves from society and government with their guns, and running over protestors who block roads with such zeal that it reads like eager fantasizing. People who are consumed with opposition to perceived radical liberalism so fervently they can't see they are radical conservatives. When people display all those traits, they are fitting in with a pretty suspicious crowd.
I understand what you are saying, and I would also be suspicious of people like that as well. I’m still not sure who you are talking about though? Seems a bit strawman in my opinion. Then again, I don’t keep up with every poster around here to be able to say “there is 100% no one like that here”. I think I know who you are talking about on the AMT, but I have never been concerned about them to the extent that you obviously are.
I don't think anyone on the AMT is violent and I'm not concerned about any of them, I was just making a point that drastic measures are the only thing that can stop this insanity. Even as a liberal who is willing to take some of those drastic steps, there are some which go to far, even if I think they would be effective. Rounding up and interviewing, then keeping tabs on right wing extremists (as determined by internet activity) would be effective, IMO, but it isn't worth the erosion of freedom it would represent.
I'm talking about people who are swindled by and peddlers of conspiracy theories from 4chan and alt-right news sources. People who ascribe to crazy "truths" like false flags, the Clinton hit squad, globalist conspiracies, etc. People who seriously fear feminism, communism, and white genocide. People who talk about defending themselves from society and government with their guns, and running over protestors who block roads with such zeal that it reads like eager fantasizing. People who are consumed with opposition to perceived radical liberalism so fervently they can't see they are radical conservatives. When people display all those traits, they are fitting in with a pretty suspicious crowd.
I understand what you are saying, and I would also be suspicious of people like that as well. I’m still not sure who you are talking about though? Seems a bit strawman in my opinion. Then again, I don’t keep up with every poster around here to be able to say “there is 100% no one like that here”. I think I know who you are talking about on the AMT, but I have never been concerned about them to the extent that you obviously are.
I don't think anyone on the AMT is violent and I'm not concerned about any of them, I was just making a point that drastic measures are the only thing that can stop this insanity. Even as a liberal who is willing to take some of those drastic steps, there are some which go to far, even if I think they would be effective. Rounding up and interviewing, then keeping tabs on right wing extremists (as determined by internet activity) would be effective, IMO, but it isn't worth the erosion of freedom it would represent.
So what are some of those drastic steps, as a liberal, you are willing to take, if you don’t mind me asking?
I'm talking about people who are swindled by and peddlers of conspiracy theories from 4chan and alt-right news sources. People who ascribe to crazy "truths" like false flags, the Clinton hit squad, globalist conspiracies, etc. People who seriously fear feminism, communism, and white genocide. People who talk about defending themselves from society and government with their guns, and running over protestors who block roads with such zeal that it reads like eager fantasizing. People who are consumed with opposition to perceived radical liberalism so fervently they can't see they are radical conservatives. When people display all those traits, they are fitting in with a pretty suspicious crowd.
I understand what you are saying, and I would also be suspicious of people like that as well. I’m still not sure who you are talking about though? Seems a bit strawman in my opinion. Then again, I don’t keep up with every poster around here to be able to say “there is 100% no one like that here”. I think I know who you are talking about on the AMT, but I have never been concerned about them to the extent that you obviously are.
I don't think anyone on the AMT is violent and I'm not concerned about any of them, I was just making a point that drastic measures are the only thing that can stop this insanity. Even as a liberal who is willing to take some of those drastic steps, there are some which go to far, even if I think they would be effective. Rounding up and interviewing, then keeping tabs on right wing extremists (as determined by internet activity) would be effective, IMO, but it isn't worth the erosion of freedom it would represent.
So what are some of those drastic steps, as a liberal, you are willing to take, if you don’t mind me asking?
Specific weapons and weapon accessory bans, a national registry and licensing process, strict penalties for improper storage, background checks and registration on all sales and transfers are a few...
I'm talking about people who are swindled by and peddlers of conspiracy theories from 4chan and alt-right news sources. People who ascribe to crazy "truths" like false flags, the Clinton hit squad, globalist conspiracies, etc. People who seriously fear feminism, communism, and white genocide. People who talk about defending themselves from society and government with their guns, and running over protestors who block roads with such zeal that it reads like eager fantasizing. People who are consumed with opposition to perceived radical liberalism so fervently they can't see they are radical conservatives. When people display all those traits, they are fitting in with a pretty suspicious crowd.
I understand what you are saying, and I would also be suspicious of people like that as well. I’m still not sure who you are talking about though? Seems a bit strawman in my opinion. Then again, I don’t keep up with every poster around here to be able to say “there is 100% no one like that here”. I think I know who you are talking about on the AMT, but I have never been concerned about them to the extent that you obviously are.
I don't think anyone on the AMT is violent and I'm not concerned about any of them, I was just making a point that drastic measures are the only thing that can stop this insanity. Even as a liberal who is willing to take some of those drastic steps, there are some which go to far, even if I think they would be effective. Rounding up and interviewing, then keeping tabs on right wing extremists (as determined by internet activity) would be effective, IMO, but it isn't worth the erosion of freedom it would represent.
So what are some of those drastic steps, as a liberal, you are willing to take, if you don’t mind me asking?
Specific weapons and weapon accessory bans, a national registry and licensing process, strict penalties for improper storage, background checks and registration on all sales and transfers are a few...
nothing drastic at all as a matter of fact ! all sensible ...
I'm talking about people who are swindled by and peddlers of conspiracy theories from 4chan and alt-right news sources. People who ascribe to crazy "truths" like false flags, the Clinton hit squad, globalist conspiracies, etc. People who seriously fear feminism, communism, and white genocide. People who talk about defending themselves from society and government with their guns, and running over protestors who block roads with such zeal that it reads like eager fantasizing. People who are consumed with opposition to perceived radical liberalism so fervently they can't see they are radical conservatives. When people display all those traits, they are fitting in with a pretty suspicious crowd.
I understand what you are saying, and I would also be suspicious of people like that as well. I’m still not sure who you are talking about though? Seems a bit strawman in my opinion. Then again, I don’t keep up with every poster around here to be able to say “there is 100% no one like that here”. I think I know who you are talking about on the AMT, but I have never been concerned about them to the extent that you obviously are.
I don't think anyone on the AMT is violent and I'm not concerned about any of them, I was just making a point that drastic measures are the only thing that can stop this insanity. Even as a liberal who is willing to take some of those drastic steps, there are some which go to far, even if I think they would be effective. Rounding up and interviewing, then keeping tabs on right wing extremists (as determined by internet activity) would be effective, IMO, but it isn't worth the erosion of freedom it would represent.
So what are some of those drastic steps, as a liberal, you are willing to take, if you don’t mind me asking?
Specific weapons and weapon accessory bans, a national registry and licensing process, strict penalties for improper storage, background checks and registration on all sales and transfers are a few...
nothing drastic at all as a matter of fact ! all sensible ...
Depends who you ask lol
I would include all pistols and detachable magazine semi-automatic rifles and that is pretty drastic.
Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.
b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
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Agreed, my best guess is that they came from some demonstration or something. Not enough information. What if they had on Sheriff badges? Regardless, this is not something that you regularly see here. I live in one of the most gun friendly states there is and have never seen people carrying their ar-15s into a restaurant.
Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.
b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
if I saw that I'd walk the fuck out with half my burger still in my mouth.
So? “Responsible” or not? Would a CCW permit holder be allowed to shoot them if their actions seemed threatening? Removed the objects that appear in the breech and acted threatening? What is the intent of someone wearing a gun made for war outside of a war zone?
Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.
b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
if I saw that I'd walk the fuck out with half my burger still in my mouth.
Meh, as someone that knows a little about firearms, I would have spotted that there are objects on both guns impending the bolts from closing, rendering the firearms inoperable.
Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.
b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
if I saw that I'd walk the fuck out with half my burger still in my mouth.
Meh, as someone that knows a little about firearms, I would have spotted that there are objects on both guns impending the bolts from closing, rearing the firearm inoperable.
Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.
b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
if I saw that I'd walk the fuck out with half my burger still in my mouth.
Meh, as someone that knows a little about firearms, I would have spotted that there are objects on both guns impending the bolts from closing, rearing the firearm inoperable.
Yeah I m guessing they are chamber flags.
Yep, one looks like a zip tie. Wonder if this was taken at a restaurant where a gun show was going on.
Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.
b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
if I saw that I'd walk the fuck out with half my burger still in my mouth.
Meh, as someone that knows a little about firearms, I would have spotted that there are objects on both guns impending the bolts from closing, rearing the firearm inoperable.
Yeah I m guessing they are chamber flags.
Yep, one looks like a zip tie. Wonder if this was taken at a restaurant where a gun show was going on.
Wondered the same thing. As someone already said, even in heavy pro-gun states you never seen this. My first thought was this was a gun show and they just bought them. Seems more plausible for why they are wearing them like that with zip ties around the slide, than just some random dudes walking into a restaurant.
Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.
b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
if I saw that I'd walk the fuck out with half my burger still in my mouth.
Meh, as someone that knows a little about firearms, I would have spotted that there are objects on both guns impending the bolts from closing, rearing the firearm inoperable.
Yeah I m guessing they are chamber flags.
Yep, one looks like a zip tie. Wonder if this was taken at a restaurant where a gun show was going on.
Yeah that is what I am thinking. Those rifles brand new.
Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.
b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
if I saw that I'd walk the fuck out with half my burger still in my mouth.
Meh, as someone that knows a little about firearms, I would have spotted that there are objects on both guns impending the bolts from closing, rearing the firearm inoperable.
Yeah I m guessing they are chamber flags.
Yep, one looks like a zip tie. Wonder if this was taken at a restaurant where a gun show was going on.
Yeah that is what I am thinking. Those rifles brand new.
Right, but back to the point, if I knew nothing about firearms, I would totally be all “oh my guuuurd, scary black guns, run fo yo lives”
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I think I know who you are talking about on the AMT, but I have never been concerned about them to the extent that you obviously are.
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I would include all pistols and detachable magazine semi-automatic rifles and that is pretty drastic.
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b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
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As someone already said, even in heavy pro-gun states you never seen this.
My first thought was this was a gun show and they just bought them. Seems more plausible for why they are wearing them like that with zip ties around the slide, than just some random dudes walking into a restaurant.