America's Gun Violence

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  • Maybe we need to legalize prostitution so these incels can get laid? Or take their guns away when they sexual assault someone? Just another “responsible” gun owner, I guess.

    https://www.ajc.com/news/who-was-scott-beierle-the-shooter-the-tallahassee-yoga-shop/RnAVWFBLNHzv8zzSXaqQnN/

    F**king goof.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Couple more dead, but at least you have your guns!  woot.


  • Madness. Pure madness. Whatever happened to states rights?

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    There’s not a safe place in this country from gun violence ! I challenge any of the pro gun folks to point us where that safe place is ..
    My apartment. No guns allowed. Ever. 
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    my2hands said:
    There’s not a safe place in this country from gun violence ! I challenge any of the pro gun folks to point us where that safe place is ..
    My apartment. No guns allowed. Ever. 
    How do you open those stubborn pickle jars without a gun?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    dudeman said:
    my2hands said:
    There’s not a safe place in this country from gun violence ! I challenge any of the pro gun folks to point us where that safe place is ..
    My apartment. No guns allowed. Ever. 
    How do you open those stubborn pickle jars without a gun?
    You mean you just threaten the pickles? 
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  • dudeman said:
    my2hands said:
    There’s not a safe place in this country from gun violence ! I challenge any of the pro gun folks to point us where that safe place is ..
    My apartment. No guns allowed. Ever. 
    How do you open those stubborn pickle jars without a gun?
    Or turn of the lights????
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,485
    my2hands said:
    There’s not a safe place in this country from gun violence ! I challenge any of the pro gun folks to point us where that safe place is ..
    My apartment. No guns allowed. Ever. 
    Yes my house too no guns allowed it just sucks to stay home all the time 😆
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,754
    edited November 2018
    Maybe we need to legalize prostitution so these incels can get laid? Or take their guns away when they sexual assault someone? Just another “responsible” gun owner, I guess.

    https://www.ajc.com/news/who-was-scott-beierle-the-shooter-the-tallahassee-yoga-shop/RnAVWFBLNHzv8zzSXaqQnN/
    Just another gun loving woman hating incel.
    Probably considered himself a true patriotic American.
    From the Vox article.....

    In the videos, Beierle rants about women who canceled dates or gave him their phone numbers even though they had boyfriends. He also mentions Elliot Rodger, the gunman who killed six people and wounded 13 in Isla Vista, California in 2014 — and who has become a hero to men who identify as “incels” (short for “involuntary celibate”).
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Incels... weird shit
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,754
    Guns don't kill people 
    The children of gun owners kill people 


  • WTF IS WRONG WITH THE US?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/learning-how-to-stop-the-bleed-after-a-mass-shooting-60-minutes/

    Everyone should be trained to stop the bleeding in the event of a mass casualty event caused by a “responsible” gun owner. Teach your kids how to cross the street safely, not to talk to strangers or get into a car with someone they don’t know and how to stop the bleeding. Fucked up society America.
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  • Guns don't kill people 
    The children of gun owners kill people 


    Children of “responsible” gun owners kill people.
     
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    The grandfather is alive but the kid and his wife are dead, and he was sitting next to her?? Definitely red flags. Gun belonged to the grandfather. 

    I agree - this doesn't add up. It actually seems pretty obvious what happened.
  • What doesn’t add up? A “responsible” gun owner killed two people? Or a “responsible” gun owner killed two people?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    njnancy said:
    The grandfather is alive but the kid and his wife are dead, and he was sitting next to her?? Definitely red flags. Gun belonged to the grandfather. 

    I agree - this doesn't add up. It actually seems pretty obvious what happened.
    You and I are on the same page...
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    What doesn’t add up? A “responsible” gun owner killed two people? Or a “responsible” gun owner killed two people?
    No argument here...
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’m remembering when I caught crap for laughing at the dumbass protester that accidentally got shot in the face by some duck hunters.  I guess it’s okay to resume making fun of him again, right?  Hard to keep up with the hypocrisy around here.

    Kind of a different situation isn't it?


    If you're accidentally shot by your own hunting party (a dog no less)... that's different than what I think you're describing over there (some morons hunting ducks shoot a dude protesting something).
    You’re splitting hairs there.  I was told “pretty tasteless to make fun of someone getting shot”.  Here is the article for those that don’t remember:
    https://www.wideopenspaces.com/duck-hunting-protester-gets-accidentally-shot-face-video/
    What a dumb dumb!  That’s what she gets for being stupid!
    Splitting hairs?  That's idiotic.   You are comparing laughing at a man shot on accident by his own dog to laughing at a woman shot by ideological opponents in an incident that was negligent at best and possibly intentional.
    Your left-hatred is robbing you of your critical thinking skills.  Every post is saturated with it, it seems like your only purpose here is to try and stick it to liberals.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    The right lost the moral compass ages ago
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    If we really want to stop these mass shootings, the fastest way would be to attack the First Amendment, not the Second.
    The vast majority of mass shooters lately have fit a specific internet activity profile, and quicker than rounding up the guns would be rounding up the people who fit that profile.

    To be clear, I'm not advocating for that, not at all.  
    We have a regular poster here who absolutely fits the mass shooter internet activity profile, and as disgusting as some of their posts are, I don't think they are a risk for that kind of atrocity. 
    My point is just that we aren't going to be able to stop this problem without drastic measures, which means we aren't going to be able to stop it at all.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,436
    rgambs said:
    If we really want to stop these mass shootings, the fastest way would be to attack the First Amendment, not the Second.
    The vast majority of mass shooters lately have fit a specific internet activity profile, and quicker than rounding up the guns would be rounding up the people who fit that profile.

    To be clear, I'm not advocating for that, not at all.  
    We have a regular poster here who absolutely fits the mass shooter internet activity profile, and as disgusting as some of their posts are, I don't think they are a risk for that kind of atrocity. 
    My point is just that we aren't going to be able to stop this problem without drastic measures, which means we aren't going to be able to stop it at all.
    I don’t really agree. But perhaps we think differently about what is drastic. This is a completely fixable issue should we actually want to fix it. It will take a much longer time to fix because a lot of people don’t care about it enough yet.  But it is frustrating that so many more people will have to die senselessly in the meantime.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2018
    rgambs said:
    If we really want to stop these mass shootings, the fastest way would be to attack the First Amendment, not the Second.
    The vast majority of mass shooters lately have fit a specific internet activity profile, and quicker than rounding up the guns would be rounding up the people who fit that profile.

    To be clear, I'm not advocating for that, not at all.  
    We have a regular poster here who absolutely fits the mass shooter internet activity profile, and as disgusting as some of their posts are, I don't think they are a risk for that kind of atrocity. 
    My point is just that we aren't going to be able to stop this problem without drastic measures, which means we aren't going to be able to stop it at all.
    Here comes the thought police...sounds a bit fascist to me.  “Fits the active shooter internet activity profile”...who exactly?  I haven’t seen anyone here threaten anyone.  Essentially what you are advocating is that anyone against strict gun control measures get “rounded up”?  What a joke.  It sounds to me like you really just want to shut people up that believe differently than you do.  That definitely fits the active shooter profile.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    rgambs said:
    If we really want to stop these mass shootings, the fastest way would be to attack the First Amendment, not the Second.
    The vast majority of mass shooters lately have fit a specific internet activity profile, and quicker than rounding up the guns would be rounding up the people who fit that profile.

    To be clear, I'm not advocating for that, not at all.  
    We have a regular poster here who absolutely fits the mass shooter internet activity profile, and as disgusting as some of their posts are, I don't think they are a risk for that kind of atrocity. 
    My point is just that we aren't going to be able to stop this problem without drastic measures, which means we aren't going to be able to stop it at all.
    I don’t really agree. But perhaps we think differently about what is drastic. This is a completely fixable issue should we actually want to fix it. It will take a much longer time to fix because a lot of people don’t care about it enough yet.  But it is frustrating that so many more people will have to die senselessly in the meantime.
    I don't see any magic bullets that will make this go away, and regardless of what you or I think is drastic, there is a sizeable enough portion of people in this country to start a civil war over any measures that would be drastic enough to kill this problem in less than 2 or 3 generations.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    If we really want to stop these mass shootings, the fastest way would be to attack the First Amendment, not the Second.
    The vast majority of mass shooters lately have fit a specific internet activity profile, and quicker than rounding up the guns would be rounding up the people who fit that profile.

    To be clear, I'm not advocating for that, not at all.  
    We have a regular poster here who absolutely fits the mass shooter internet activity profile, and as disgusting as some of their posts are, I don't think they are a risk for that kind of atrocity. 
    My point is just that we aren't going to be able to stop this problem without drastic measures, which means we aren't going to be able to stop it at all.
    Here comes the thought police...sounds a bit fascist to me.  “Fits the active shooter internet activity profile”...who exactly?  I haven’t seen anyone here threaten anyone.  Essentially what you are advocating is that anyone against strict gun control measures get “rounded up”?  What a joke.  It sounds to me like you really just want to shut people up that believe differently than you do.  That definitely fits the active shooter profile.
    Take a breath, maybe have a cup of coffee.  Take your helm off and put down your left-hand pitchfork, and read my post again.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2018
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    If we really want to stop these mass shootings, the fastest way would be to attack the First Amendment, not the Second.
    The vast majority of mass shooters lately have fit a specific internet activity profile, and quicker than rounding up the guns would be rounding up the people who fit that profile.

    To be clear, I'm not advocating for that, not at all.  
    We have a regular poster here who absolutely fits the mass shooter internet activity profile, and as disgusting as some of their posts are, I don't think they are a risk for that kind of atrocity. 
    My point is just that we aren't going to be able to stop this problem without drastic measures, which means we aren't going to be able to stop it at all.
    Here comes the thought police...sounds a bit fascist to me.  “Fits the active shooter internet activity profile”...who exactly?  I haven’t seen anyone here threaten anyone.  Essentially what you are advocating is that anyone against strict gun control measures get “rounded up”?  What a joke.  It sounds to me like you really just want to shut people up that believe differently than you do.  That definitely fits the active shooter profile.
    Take a breath, maybe have a cup of coffee.  Take your helm off and put down your left-hand pitchfork, and read my post again.
    “Left-hand pitchfork”.  You crack me up, man.  Maybe it is because you only see the very liberal ATM, but this place is not half as hostile as many far right or far left forums.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Oh, I know, I'm on Facebook lol
    My point stands, you carry a fork and torch enough that you missed me explicitly saying I didn't advocate for that and accused me of doing so.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2018
    rgambs said:
    Oh, I know, I'm on Facebook lol
    My point stands, you carry a fork and torch enough that you missed me explicitly saying I didn't advocate for that and accused me of doing so.
    I’m just curious who you are throwing under the  bus.  I know there are several conservatives on  the AMT, but I have not seen anyone meeting a “mass shooter internet profile”(whatever that is).  Maybe some of the ones that have been banned because they cannot keep their temper in check?  But then you said “actively posts”, so ?   Maybe you are just talking about men, since men perpetuate most mass shootings?  
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/14/what-do-most-mass-shooters-have-in-common-hint-it-isnt-politics-video-games-or-religion/?noredirect=on
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I'm talking about people who are swindled by and peddlers of conspiracy theories from 4chan and alt-right news sources.  People who ascribe to crazy "truths" like false flags, the Clinton hit squad, globalist conspiracies, etc.
    People who seriously fear feminism, communism, and white genocide.  People who talk about defending themselves from society and government with their guns, and running over protestors who block roads with such zeal that it reads like eager fantasizing.  People who are consumed with opposition to perceived radical liberalism so fervently they can't see they are radical conservatives.
    When people display all those traits, they are fitting in with a pretty suspicious crowd.
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