America's Gun Violence

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  • mcgruff10 said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    Man if unsung used this he would have been crucified! That forty round mag on the ak is insane. 
    Cool to have but impractical when in the prone position.
  • PJ_Soul said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    So what? This is crazy shit whether they're loaded or not. Almost as crazy as fucking open carry rallies. Wtf.
    I have no problem with this and I can completely understand why you'd see it as crazy.

    Also this IS an open carry rally.

    This pic and the one posted before are from the same restaurant.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited November 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    So what? This is crazy shit whether they're loaded or not. Almost as crazy as fucking open carry rallies. Wtf.
    I have no problem with this and I can completely understand why you'd see it as crazy.

    Also this IS an open carry rally.

    This pic and the one posted before are from the same restaurant.
    Yeah, I understood that it was at or near, before or after an open carry rally.... that almost makes it worse, lol. Some seem to think that makes it okay or something. :confused:
    Are businesses allowed to refuse people who are openly carrying in open carry states, or no?
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    So what? This is crazy shit whether they're loaded or not. Almost as crazy as fucking open carry rallies. Wtf.
    I have no problem with this and I can completely understand why you'd see it as crazy.

    Also this IS an open carry rally.

    This pic and the one posted before are from the same restaurant.
    Yeah, I understood that it was at or near, before or after an open carry rally.... that almost makes it worse, lol. Some seem to think that makes it okay or something. :confused:
    Are businesses allowed to refuse people who are openly carrying in open carry states, or no?
    Good question.  I do not know.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,357
    mcgruff10 said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    Man if unsung used this he would have been crucified! That forty round mag on the ak is insane. 
    Seriously. Oak is so tacky. Should be a stained mahogany if you're going for a 40.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    So what? This is crazy shit whether they're loaded or not. Almost as crazy as fucking open carry rallies. Wtf.
    I have no problem with this and I can completely understand why you'd see it as crazy.

    Also this IS an open carry rally.

    This pic and the one posted before are from the same restaurant.
    Yeah, I understood that it was at or near, before or after an open carry rally.... that almost makes it worse, lol. Some seem to think that makes it okay or something. :confused:
    Are businesses allowed to refuse people who are openly carrying in open carry states, or no?
    Good question.  I do not know.
    Yes, yes they are (without getting into specifics).
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited November 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    So what? This is crazy shit whether they're loaded or not. Almost as crazy as fucking open carry rallies. Wtf.
    I have no problem with this and I can completely understand why you'd see it as crazy.

    Also this IS an open carry rally.

    This pic and the one posted before are from the same restaurant.
    Yeah, I understood that it was at or near, before or after an open carry rally.... that almost makes it worse, lol. Some seem to think that makes it okay or something. :confused:
    Are businesses allowed to refuse people who are openly carrying in open carry states, or no?
    Good question.  I do not know.




    I hate this freaking 'stuck in quote if backspace".  Fix it, I'm held prisoner and am sick of deleting and restarting. 

    Anyway, checked a couple random sites on google and yes, a business can deny to serve a person open carrying. Some establishments can refuse conceal carry. This is usually handled with a simple sign on the door. Starbucks has a no carry policy as do most establishments that serve alcohol (thank god). 

    The person open carrying is not a protected class and their second amendment right is not infringed upon if a business chooses to not allow guns on their premises. If a person carries onto a property or into a business they can be asked to leave and if they refuse, the police are called. 

    If a restaurant can refuse to serve you based upon what you are wearing, or a store refuse entry because you are barefoot or shirtless then I can't imagine how this wouldn't  to openly carried guns. It is allowed by law in states but not where it is not wanted. And there is no law to support it.

    It seems that some towns have enacted 'must carry' laws but I'm not so sure about what that is all about. 

    I would be extremely uncomfortable being in line with a bunch of people carrying rifles openly. I support people's right to own guns but don't shove them in my face. Pot is legal in many states but you can't light up in Walmart. 

    I think the Second Amendment has been completely over applied and needs to be re-assessed. That will never happen. The obsession with guns in America is something that I will never understand. 
    Post edited by njnancy on
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    PJ_Soul said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    So what? This is crazy shit whether they're loaded or not. Almost as crazy as fucking open carry rallies. Wtf.
    I have no problem with this and I can completely understand why you'd see it as crazy.

    Also this IS an open carry rally.

    This pic and the one posted before are from the same restaurant.
    I just noticed the deer head plus on the wall so logic follows that this is an open carry friendly restaurant. 

    I simply do not understand this culture. Doesn't make it right or wrong. It just isn't something that I find necessary. YMMV
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    njnancy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    So what? This is crazy shit whether they're loaded or not. Almost as crazy as fucking open carry rallies. Wtf.
    I have no problem with this and I can completely understand why you'd see it as crazy.

    Also this IS an open carry rally.

    This pic and the one posted before are from the same restaurant.
    I just noticed the deer head plus on the wall so logic follows that this is an open carry friendly restaurant. 

    I simply do not understand this culture. Doesn't make it right or wrong. It just isn't something that I find necessary. YMMV
    Well it certainly doesn't seem to be working well for America, does it?
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited November 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    njnancy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That pic was for an "open carry" rally in Houston,Texas 5 years ago.

    Something else that everyone in the group did is put a zip-tie through the slide to show that the guns are not loaded.  You can see it on the firearms.

    Image result for cidados armados no texas
    So what? This is crazy shit whether they're loaded or not. Almost as crazy as fucking open carry rallies. Wtf.
    I have no problem with this and I can completely understand why you'd see it as crazy.

    Also this IS an open carry rally.

    This pic and the one posted before are from the same restaurant.
    I just noticed the deer head plus on the wall so logic follows that this is an open carry friendly restaurant. 

    I simply do not understand this culture. Doesn't make it right or wrong. It just isn't something that I find necessary. YMMV
    Well it certainly doesn't seem to be working well for America, does it?
    I guess all these good guys with guns are going to protect everyone from the guy who charges in and surprises everyone with an AK. Seems most would be shot before they could respond, especially since they're waiting for food and not on duty. I've never touched a gun. I have no desire to do so. I will not shove my opinion onto anyone else but I hate the damn things. At least limit it to handguns - I don't see the need for civilians to be ordering extra cheese on their fries with a long gun strapped to their body. It's a frustrating situation in America. Except for those who have guns and immense freedom; yet still are outraged that people are coming for their guns or their rights. 

    Rant over. It's the Second Amendment. (Expanded way over original meaning and supported by 'originalists'). Okay, now rant over.
    Post edited by njnancy on
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,981
    edited November 2018
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on
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  • Or lower the amounts of guns in circulation in your country, so people don't have to be so damn afraid and need to arm themselves when going to a burger place.


    b-b-but cultural differences. Jesus carried a gun when riding his pet dinasaour!
    Stupid. These two are clowns- no question. "Let's go get some burgers with our guns. We bad."

    And man... the guy on the right is really sweaty? He looks nervous.
    Those are beads of joy, he's not nervous. Big ass rifle worn Chewbacca-style, check.  Getting a #3, check... his buddy is getting the tip for once, check. If they have reclining booths, he's going to put the sweat in sweat socks.

    hahahaha

    The best part of this completely unflattering description is the 'tip' part. Cheap bastard. You can tell he's cheap. Just by the sweat... you can tell.
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  • Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
  • Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
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  • dudeman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
    Approximately half but you know, “responsible” gun owners allowing access to their firearms, like the 11 year old who took out grandma and himself. Unless 11 year olds can legally purchase in that state?
     
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    dudeman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
    Approximately half but you know, “responsible” gun owners allowing access to their firearms, like the 11 year old who took out grandma and himself. Unless 11 year olds can legally purchase in that state?
     
    I still say grandpa pulled off that double murder and pinned it on the kid. The story makes 0 sense.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    njnancy said:
    dudeman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
    Approximately half but you know, “responsible” gun owners allowing access to their firearms, like the 11 year old who took out grandma and himself. Unless 11 year olds can legally purchase in that state?
     
    I still say grandpa pulled off that double murder and pinned it on the kid. The story makes 0 sense.
    I agree that the story does not add up.  
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  • njnancy said:
    dudeman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
    Approximately half but you know, “responsible” gun owners allowing access to their firearms, like the 11 year old who took out grandma and himself. Unless 11 year olds can legally purchase in that state?
     
    I still say grandpa pulled off that double murder and pinned it on the kid. The story makes 0 sense.
    Then I guess that makes grandpa the “responsible” gun owner?
     
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,485
    njnancy said:
    dudeman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
    Approximately half but you know, “responsible” gun owners allowing access to their firearms, like the 11 year old who took out grandma and himself. Unless 11 year olds can legally purchase in that state?
     
    I still say grandpa pulled off that double murder and pinned it on the kid. The story makes 0 sense.
    Then I guess that makes grandpa the “responsible” gun owner?
     
    Yep and a weapon was used !
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  • njnancy said:
    dudeman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
    Approximately half but you know, “responsible” gun owners allowing access to their firearms, like the 11 year old who took out grandma and himself. Unless 11 year olds can legally purchase in that state?
     
    I still say grandpa pulled off that double murder and pinned it on the kid. The story makes 0 sense.
    Then I guess that makes grandpa the “responsible” gun owner?
     
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


  • njnancy said:
    dudeman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
    Approximately half but you know, “responsible” gun owners allowing access to their firearms, like the 11 year old who took out grandma and himself. Unless 11 year olds can legally purchase in that state?
     
    I still say grandpa pulled off that double murder and pinned it on the kid. The story makes 0 sense.
    Then I guess that makes grandpa the “responsible” gun owner?
     
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    How do we know roughly half were obtained illegally? And at some point, a “responsible” gun owner decided not to be “responsible” by facilitating illegal ownership of guns. .015 too many.
     
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited November 2018
    njnancy said:
    dudeman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    How many of those 45,000 mow themselves down?
    Approximately half but you know, “responsible” gun owners allowing access to their firearms, like the 11 year old who took out grandma and himself. Unless 11 year olds can legally purchase in that state?
     
    I still say grandpa pulled off that double murder and pinned it on the kid. The story makes 0 sense.
    Then I guess that makes grandpa the “responsible” gun owner?
     
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    The firearms obtained illegally were obtained from "responsible gun owners".
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  • rgambs said:
    x said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    The firearms obtained illegally were obtained from "responsible gun owners".
    If a gun gets stolen from someone it can't be the owners fault unless he was negligent, then he isn't "responsible" and should be held accountable.

    But what you are leaning towards has been a target of gun activists.  They activists would like the gun manufacturers to be held accountable for crimes committed with firearms that they made.

     
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    How do we know roughly half were obtained illegally? And at some point, a “responsible” gun owner decided not to be “responsible” by facilitating illegal ownership of guns. .015 too many.
     
    That isn't a responsible gun owner if they are doing that and they should be held accountable.

    I know i'm spitting in the wind here and I really don't know why I come back to this thread...
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,489
    rgambs said:
    x said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    The firearms obtained illegally were obtained from "responsible gun owners".
    If a gun gets stolen from someone it can't be the owners fault unless he was negligent, then he isn't "responsible" and should be held accountable.

    But what you are leaning towards has been a target of gun activists.  They activists would like the gun manufacturers to be held accountable for crimes committed with firearms that they made.

     
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    How do we know roughly half were obtained illegally? And at some point, a “responsible” gun owner decided not to be “responsible” by facilitating illegal ownership of guns. .015 too many.
     
    That isn't a responsible gun owner if they are doing that and they should be held accountable.

    I know i'm spitting in the wind here and I really don't know why I come back to this thread...
    0.015 is too many....wow.  I mean in what other areas of life can you say 99.985 percent of something is responsible or positive?
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    x said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    The firearms obtained illegally were obtained from "responsible gun owners".
    If a gun gets stolen from someone it can't be the owners fault unless he was negligent, then he isn't "responsible" and should be held accountable.

    But what you are leaning towards has been a target of gun activists.  They activists would like the gun manufacturers to be held accountable for crimes committed with firearms that they made.

     
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    How do we know roughly half were obtained illegally? And at some point, a “responsible” gun owner decided not to be “responsible” by facilitating illegal ownership of guns. .015 too many.
     
    That isn't a responsible gun owner if they are doing that and they should be held accountable.

    I know i'm spitting in the wind here and I really don't know why I come back to this thread...
    0.015 is too many....wow.  I mean in what other areas of life can you say 99.985 percent of something is responsible or positive?
    Where else can you point where that rate of failure results in the deaths of thousands of innocent people?

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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    Medical malpractice.
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  • dudeman said:
    Medical malpractice.

    You'll have to live with that.

    Guns are made for killing. When they kill... they've done exactly what they were designed to do. Medical malpractice is grounded in healing and when it results in a death, it is truly an 'accident'.
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