America's Gun Violence

SPEEDY MCCREADY

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

mcgruff10

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Case closed?
Please.

The good ole USA.
Pizza delivery guys come to work armed with handguns.

And you don't think there is a problem with this?
In my eyes? This is PATHETIC. This is what we have come to? We cant do any better than this?

callen

Ta

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Eh not so fast. If only robber had gun pizza guy looses 30 bills. Not sure of exact stat but vast majority of robberies aren't violent. Give crook money and go.

If everyone had a gun or robbers thought they had guns, they would simply shoot and kill then take.

One gun likely nothing happens. Two guns and someone will get hurt.

So in this case we'll pay thousands for ass's medical bills for the 30 bills.

josevolution

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Yeah i have to agree with Speedy on this just the way it reads its totally fucked up delivery guys with guns , teen with guns it's just a mess .......

mcgruff10

callen said:

Ta

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Eh not so fast. If only robber had gun pizza guy looses 30 bills. Not sure of exact stat but vast majority of robberies aren't violent. Give crook money and go.

If everyone had a gun or robbers thought they had guns, they would simply shoot and kill then take.

One gun likely nothing happens. Two guns and someone will get hurt.

So in this case we'll pay thousands for ass's medical bills for the 30 bills.

you assume that nothing would have happened but how can one be sure? I'm glad the good guy one this time around.

rgambs

"Good guy"
"Bad guy"
Twice in the last two years local newspapers have run stories about good guys who stopped bad guys by shooting them dead.
The first one ended up being a love triangle gone bad.
In the second one a "home invader picked the wrong house"... except he ended up being a black guy in a hick neighborhood who's car broke down. He knocked on the door too hard and then ran when a guy answered with a gun, never made it to the sidewalk.

I don't trust most of these "good guy" stories.

Gern Blansten

callen said:

Ta

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Eh not so fast. If only robber had gun pizza guy looses 30 bills. Not sure of exact stat but vast majority of robberies aren't violent. Give crook money and go.

If everyone had a gun or robbers thought they had guns, they would simply shoot and kill then take.

One gun likely nothing happens. Two guns and someone will get hurt.

So in this case we'll pay thousands for ass's medical bills for the 30 bills.

exactly....it isn't hard to see where doing nothing leads us. At some point we won't leave our homes unless we are armed and we just take aim at every person we come in contact with to make sure we take them out before they take us out.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

Ta

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Eh not so fast. If only robber had gun pizza guy looses 30 bills. Not sure of exact stat but vast majority of robberies aren't violent. Give crook money and go.

If everyone had a gun or robbers thought they had guns, they would simply shoot and kill then take.

One gun likely nothing happens. Two guns and someone will get hurt.

So in this case we'll pay thousands for ass's medical bills for the 30 bills.

How the f**k did I get tossed into this?

PJfanwillneverleave1

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

callen said:

Ta

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Eh not so fast. If only robber had gun pizza guy looses 30 bills. Not sure of exact stat but vast majority of robberies aren't violent. Give crook money and go.

If everyone had a gun or robbers thought they had guns, they would simply shoot and kill then take.

One gun likely nothing happens. Two guns and someone will get hurt.

So in this case we'll pay thousands for ass's medical bills for the 30 bills.

How the f**k did I get tossed into this?

Pipe down thirty

JUST A GIRL

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Because this guy had a gun for... Wait for it..: PROTECTION! And it worked. Case closed.

JUST A GIRL

rgambs said:

"Good guy"
"Bad guy"
Twice in the last two years local newspapers have run stories about good guys who stopped bad guys by shooting them dead.
The first one ended up being a love triangle gone bad.
In the second one a "home invader picked the wrong house"... except he ended up being a black guy in a hick neighborhood who's car broke down. He knocked on the door too hard and then ran when a guy answered with a gun, never made it to the sidewalk.

I don't trust most of these "good guy" stories.

I guess because it doesn't work for your "guns are bad" theory?

rgambs

JUST A GIRL said:

rgambs said:

"Good guy"
"Bad guy"
Twice in the last two years local newspapers have run stories about good guys who stopped bad guys by shooting them dead.
The first one ended up being a love triangle gone bad.
In the second one a "home invader picked the wrong house"... except he ended up being a black guy in a hick neighborhood who's car broke down. He knocked on the door too hard and then ran when a guy answered with a gun, never made it to the sidewalk.

I don't trust most of these "good guy" stories.

I guess because it doesn't work for your "guns are bad" theory?

No, because there is inherent confirmation bias in such an event.

mcgruff10

JUST A GIRL said:

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Because this guy had a gun for... Wait for it..: PROTECTION! And it worked. Case closed.

bingo!!!!!!

just a girl i posted these numbers in one of the many gun threads on here lol. check them out, especially bullet one and three.

pretty crazy stats I just found: (https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp)
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]

* A 1997 U.S. Justice Department survey of 14,285 state prison inmates found that among those inmates who carried a firearm during the offense for which they were sent to jail, 0.7% obtained the firearm at a gun show, 1% at a flea market, 3.8% from a pawn shop, 8.3% from a retail store, 39.2% through an illegal/street source, and 39.6% through family or friends.[94]

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[130]

Godfather.

mcgruff10 said:

JUST A GIRL said:

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Because this guy had a gun for... Wait for it..: PROTECTION! And it worked. Case closed.

bingo!!!!!!

just a girl i posted these numbers in one of the many gun threads on here lol. check them out, especially bullet one and three.

pretty crazy stats I just found: (https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp)
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]

* A 1997 U.S. Justice Department survey of 14,285 state prison inmates found that among those inmates who carried a firearm during the offense for which they were sent to jail, 0.7% obtained the firearm at a gun show, 1% at a flea market, 3.8% from a pawn shop, 8.3% from a retail store, 39.2% through an illegal/street source, and 39.6% through family or friends.[94]

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[130]

now that's research ! but the anti gun folks will still see the glass half empty.
exlent post Mcgruff10

Godfather.

mcgruff10

Godfather. said:

mcgruff10 said:

JUST A GIRL said:

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Because this guy had a gun for... Wait for it..: PROTECTION! And it worked. Case closed.

bingo!!!!!!

just a girl i posted these numbers in one of the many gun threads on here lol. check them out, especially bullet one and three.

pretty crazy stats I just found: (https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp)
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]

* A 1997 U.S. Justice Department survey of 14,285 state prison inmates found that among those inmates who carried a firearm during the offense for which they were sent to jail, 0.7% obtained the firearm at a gun show, 1% at a flea market, 3.8% from a pawn shop, 8.3% from a retail store, 39.2% through an illegal/street source, and 39.6% through family or friends.[94]

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[130]

now that's research ! but the anti gun folks will still see the glass half empty.
exlent post Mcgruff10

Godfather.

My friend no joke, I love to research. The 2000 stat is way higher than I could have imagined. I ll look for more recent years, hopefully they are available.

Godfather.

I just read an article on the local news, a san diego woman was texting and driving 85 Mph on the 405 frwy and rear ended a small car killing the driver a young high school girl, she had sent 13 texts in 15 min's just before her phone rang and she answered it right at the point of impact (she was just sentanced to 6 years in prison), so Im wondering how many people are killed everyday due to texting and driving ? I know a kid who totalled his dads excursion when he was on the 5 frwy in lake elsanor he said he looked down to answer a text and that fast he was smashed up on the k-rail in the center devide.
yes you get my point right ? how many cell phones kill innocent people daily ?

Godfather.

dudeman

Godfather. said:

mcgruff10 said:

JUST A GIRL said:

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mcgruff10 said:

another one where the good guy ones:
Police say a Norfolk pizza delivery driver turned the tables on a teen robbery suspect.

Officers were called to the 900 block of Galt Street around 9:30 p.m. Sunday for the report of a shooting.

The investigation revealed a 15-year-old tried to rob a Chanello’s pizza delivery driver at gunpoint. But, the driver also had a gun and shot the teen.

Investigators charged the 15-year-old with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He will remain at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital until he recovers from his injuries.

And if this story doesn't show the rest of the civilized world just how FUCKED UP the USA is.....Then I don't know what does.

The 15 year old has a gun and is out committing armed robbery.
The pizza driver is delivering pizza while being armed.
And you think it is good guys VS bad guys.

Its just another pathetic story that shows something needs to be done...NOW

Bad guy had gun good guy thankfully had one too and defended himself. Case closed.

Because this guy had a gun for... Wait for it..: PROTECTION! And it worked. Case closed.

bingo!!!!!!

just a girl i posted these numbers in one of the many gun threads on here lol. check them out, especially bullet one and three.

pretty crazy stats I just found: (https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp)
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]

* A 1997 U.S. Justice Department survey of 14,285 state prison inmates found that among those inmates who carried a firearm during the offense for which they were sent to jail, 0.7% obtained the firearm at a gun show, 1% at a flea market, 3.8% from a pawn shop, 8.3% from a retail store, 39.2% through an illegal/street source, and 39.6% through family or friends.[94]

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[130]

now that's research ! but the anti gun folks will still see the glass half empty.
exlent post Mcgruff10

Godfather.

I think they see the glass as half full, but it's full of bacteria and we have to do something about it NOW!

Godfather.

Godfather. said:

I just read an article on the local news, a san diego woman was texting and driving 85 Mph on the 405 frwy and rear ended a small car killing the driver a young high school girl, she had sent 13 texts in 15 min's just before her phone rang and she answered it right at the point of impact (she was just sentanced to 6 years in prison), so Im wondering how many people are killed everyday due to texting and driving ? I know a kid who totalled his dads excursion when he was on the 5 frwy in lake elsanor he said he looked down to answer a text and that fast he was smashed up on the k-rail in the center devide.
yes you get my point right ? how many cell phones kill innocent people daily ?

Godfather.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/study-texting-while-driving-now-leading-cause-of-death-for-teen-drivers-1.5226036

Godfather.

rgambs

Godfather. said:

I just read an article on the local news, a san diego woman was texting and driving 85 Mph on the 405 frwy and rear ended a small car killing the driver a young high school girl, she had sent 13 texts in 15 min's just before her phone rang and she answered it right at the point of impact (she was just sentanced to 6 years in prison), so Im wondering how many people are killed everyday due to texting and driving ? I know a kid who totalled his dads excursion when he was on the 5 frwy in lake elsanor he said he looked down to answer a text and that fast he was smashed up on the k-rail in the center devide.
yes you get my point right ? how many cell phones kill innocent people daily ?

Godfather.

And that's why the government is taking steps to make cell phones safer by changing the laws...just like some folks want to do with guns.