Says near. Not ON. And it was singular( still bad of course). .. .Lot of depressed areas around colleges due to the itenerant nature of the housing. Off campus has a greater potential for crime in general.
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In some states they have cops there on school grounds.
I personally wouldn't want a teacher carrying even if they had training. It's not something they should have to worry about.
We had an armed police officer at my schools in Florida.
Quick minutes from the Everytown for Gun Safety conference call last night:
We are going to call on President Obama to take executive actions to remove exemptions that let dangerous people carry guns near our children's schools; make sure high-volume gun sellers become licensed dealers and are required to conduct background checks for all gun sales; ensure that federal law enforcement notifies local law enforcement when dangerous criminals try to illegally buy guns at dealers in their community; help states that require background checks for all gun sales to enforce existing laws on the books; and not let convicted domestic abusers buy guns just because they're not married to the person they abused (research report here) -- none of which would require approval from Congress.
We are also continuing to develop a gun sense voting platform. It's all up for grabs in Virginia in 2016, and resident Andy Parker (Alison's father) is making it his mission to see that those seats are occupied by officials who will do their jobs by listening to their constituency and supporting commonsense gun laws. He called on Virginia residents to join him in this campaign. The gun sense voting platform will also be expanded beyond Virginia, to the wider federal and local ballot boxes in 2016.
Overall, it was a positive call, our numbers our up to 3 million members vs. the NRA's 4.5 million, and we've only been around since 2012.
Thank you for your time.
Wonder how many are gun owners and NRA members supporting this?
It may take an additional effort from a CounterNRA owner lobby to force things along.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
In some states they have cops there on school grounds.
I personally wouldn't want a teacher carrying even if they had training. It's not something they should have to worry about.
We had an armed police officer at my schools in Florida.
Quick minutes from the Everytown for Gun Safety conference call last night:
We are going to call on President Obama to take executive actions to remove exemptions that let dangerous people carry guns near our children's schools; make sure high-volume gun sellers become licensed dealers and are required to conduct background checks for all gun sales; ensure that federal law enforcement notifies local law enforcement when dangerous criminals try to illegally buy guns at dealers in their community; help states that require background checks for all gun sales to enforce existing laws on the books; and not let convicted domestic abusers buy guns just because they're not married to the person they abused (research report here) -- none of which would require approval from Congress.
We are also continuing to develop a gun sense voting platform. It's all up for grabs in Virginia in 2016, and resident Andy Parker (Alison's father) is making it his mission to see that those seats are occupied by officials who will do their jobs by listening to their constituency and supporting commonsense gun laws. He called on Virginia residents to join him in this campaign. The gun sense voting platform will also be expanded beyond Virginia, to the wider federal and local ballot boxes in 2016.
Overall, it was a positive call, our numbers our up to 3 million members vs. the NRA's 4.5 million, and we've only been around since 2012.
Thank you for your time.
Wonder how many are gun owners and NRA members supporting this?
It may take an additional effort from a CounterNRA owner lobby to force things along.
Plenty of gun owners are members. But considering that NRA members are asked to block everything that Everytown for Gun Safety is trying to do, I doubt there's much overlap between the two organizations.
Imagine these shootings kept happening but they were being carried out by random Islamic extremists. Now imagine how immediate and crushingly violent the US governments response would be? And weirder still you'd see the NRA/gun lobby knuckle draggers throw their full support behind the government response, simply cos it was a Muslim did it.
the American attitude towards gun ownership is so insane.
Imagine these shootings kept happening but they were being carried out by random Islamic extremists. Now imagine how immediate and crushingly violent the US governments response would be? And weirder still you'd see the NRA/gun lobby knuckle draggers throw their full support behind the government response, simply cos it was a Muslim did it.
the American attitude towards gun ownership is so insane.
If it was Muslim extremists the gun lobby and it's supporters would be the first to blame President Obama
Imagine these shootings kept happening but they were being carried out by random Islamic extremists. Now imagine how immediate and crushingly violent the US governments response would be? And weirder still you'd see the NRA/gun lobby knuckle draggers throw their full support behind the government response, simply cos it was a Muslim did it.
the American attitude towards gun ownership is so insane.
I can just imagine the NRA's response: "Only armed citizens can stop the Muslim threat!" This would simply be another rallying call for gun owners. In the US, events which should give people reason to pause and reconsider gun ownership are quickly subverted by the gun lobby and become justification for increased gun ownership and fewer restrictions.
I can't help but wonder, what is happening in schools these days that makes people want to shoot them up?
I think it's because schools, particularly high schools, are (and have always been) a morass of nasty cliques and social exclusion. I don't think there's even a way around this, given the time of life/developmental stage of those who are there. Not an easy time for anybody, but it always appears that everyone else is more popular, more attractive, more cool than you are. How many times did you fantasize about getting revenge against those you believed made your life more difficult in high school? I know I did, though not with a gun. These guys just carry that through, and to extremes. The easy availability of guns make it possible.
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I can't help but wonder, what is happening in schools these days that makes people want to shoot them up?
I think it's because schools, particularly high schools, are (and have always been) a morass of nasty cliques and social exclusion. I don't think there's even a way around this, given the time of life/developmental stage of those who are there. Not an easy time for anybody, but it always appears that everyone else is more popular, more attractive, more cool than you are. How many times did you fantasize about getting revenge against those you believed made your life more difficult in high school? I know I did, though not with a gun. These guys just carry that through, and to extremes. The easy availability of guns make it possible.
What do you guys think about having teachers carry? Would that be a deterrent ? An of course before they carry they d need training, backgroud check, mental health check, proper certification, annual tests....
As a teacher in an inner city school the last thing I want to think about is taking a gun into school with my lesson plans for the day.
I've never understood the line of thought of arming teachers. Has anyone ever bothered to asked or polled teachers if they want to carry a sidearm? Have those that pushed this idea ever met, or been around teachers? They're mostly a bunch of softies who despise any shape or form of violence. I've been in education for a while and know a lot of teachers from around the country. I can honestly say that I don't know of one educational professional who supports this idea or who wants to pack heat in the classroom. It's just bullshit dreamt up by the NRA to support their "Die Hard" ideology of everyone longing to be John McClain kicking ass and blasting away the bad guy.
Now I can support police in/outside of schools. But that costs money, so that isn't a feasible answer (at least to some people).
I also think that the idea of arming teachers is abaolutely fucking ridiculous, said as the child of two educators.
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What do you guys think about having teachers carry? Would that be a deterrent ? An of course before they carry they d need training, backgroud check, mental health check, proper certification, annual tests....
As a teacher in an inner city school the last thing I want to think about is taking a gun into school with my lesson plans for the day.
I've never understood the line of thought of arming teachers. Has anyone ever bothered to asked or polled teachers if they want to carry a sidearm? Have those that pushed this idea ever met, or been around teachers? They're mostly a bunch of softies who despise any shape or form of violence. I've been in education for a while and know a lot of teachers from around the country. I can honestly say that I don't know of one educational professional who supports this idea or who wants to pack heat in the classroom. It's just bullshit dreamt up by the NRA to support their "Die Hard" ideology of everyone longing to be John McClain kicking ass and blasting away the bad guy.
Now I can support police in/outside of schools. But that costs money, so that isn't a feasible answer (at least to some people).
I also think that the idea of arming teachers is abaolutely fucking ridiculous, said as the child of two educators.
I agree with you PJsoul^!
In most states if your weapon gets stolen from you and used in a crime because you did not secure it properly then you are liable. This needs to be enforced in every state.
What do you guys think about having teachers carry? Would that be a deterrent ? An of course before they carry they d need training, backgroud check, mental health check, proper certification, annual tests....
As a teacher in an inner city school the last thing I want to think about is taking a gun into school with my lesson plans for the day.
I've never understood the line of thought of arming teachers. Has anyone ever bothered to asked or polled teachers if they want to carry a sidearm? Have those that pushed this idea ever met, or been around teachers? They're mostly a bunch of softies who despise any shape or form of violence. I've been in education for a while and know a lot of teachers from around the country. I can honestly say that I don't know of one educational professional who supports this idea or who wants to pack heat in the classroom. It's just bullshit dreamt up by the NRA to support their "Die Hard" ideology of everyone longing to be John McClain kicking ass and blasting away the bad guy.
Now I can support police in/outside of schools. But that costs money, so that isn't a feasible answer (at least to some people).
I also think that the idea of arming teachers is abaolutely fucking ridiculous, said as the child of two educators.
of the fellow educators I ve talked to it s amazing how many are for some (the term "some" is very varied as I teach in a school with 80 teachers) teachers being allowed to Legally carry.
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
It is fucked up that other countries have present this question to the USA. Guns in schools? Unreal.
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
Apparently, guns are already in the classroom. At least if there is someone present who stands a fighting chance against an armed intruder, there might not be so much mayhem before the first responders arrive.
If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
Apparently, guns are already in the classroom. At least if there is someone present who stands a fighting chance against an armed intruder, there might not be so much mayhem before the first responders arrive.
Like a flight marshall. I am happy to have one in flight. I am not happy to have one in a childs classroom.
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
Apparently, guns are already in the classroom. At least if there is someone present who stands a fighting chance against an armed intruder, there might not be so much mayhem before the first responders arrive.
Like a flight marshall. I am happy to have one in flight. I am not happy to have one in a childs classroom.
Even if it means possibly saving the lives of all of the children in the classroom?
If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
Apparently, guns are already in the classroom. At least if there is someone present who stands a fighting chance against an armed intruder, there might not be so much mayhem before the first responders arrive.
Like a flight marshall. I am happy to have one in flight. I am not happy to have one in a childs classroom.
Even if it means possibly saving the lives of all of the children in the classroom?
Feels like this topic could go in circles all day and night. I am mixed on this idea but lean to the no. I would like society to get it right and treat school as a safe space. Guns and kids not a place to be.
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
Apparently, guns are already in the classroom. At least if there is someone present who stands a fighting chance against an armed intruder, there might not be so much mayhem before the first responders arrive.
Like a flight marshall. I am happy to have one in flight. I am not happy to have one in a childs classroom.
Even if it means possibly saving the lives of all of the children in the classroom?
Having an armed teacher does not mean it will prevent any deaths in the event of a classroom shooting.
In fact if the teacher does not have the training of a soldier or a police officer there is a greater likelihood of collateral damage.
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
Apparently, guns are already in the classroom. At least if there is someone present who stands a fighting chance against an armed intruder, there might not be so much mayhem before the first responders arrive.
Like a flight marshall. I am happy to have one in flight. I am not happy to have one in a childs classroom.
Even if it means possibly saving the lives of all of the children in the classroom?
Feels like this topic could go in circles all day and night. I am mixed on this idea but lean to the no. I would like society to get it right and treat school as a safe space. Guns and kids not a place to be.
I would like society to get it right too. I really wish that violence was something that used to happen before we learned the error of our ways and evolved past it. However, we live in the present where people kill each other. Since forcing the evolutionary process to advance us into a period of universal peace isn't likely to happen, I am all for law abiding, capable people standing up to those who wish to do us harm.
If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
What's wrong with allowing teachers to make the decision for themselves? The rest of society has the option and many choose not to carry guns. Obviously there is no "one size fits all" solution but I feel that the choice should be left to the individual.
And what about the rights of the parents and children who might not want a gun in the classroom?
Apparently, guns are already in the classroom. At least if there is someone present who stands a fighting chance against an armed intruder, there might not be so much mayhem before the first responders arrive.
Like a flight marshall. I am happy to have one in flight. I am not happy to have one in a childs classroom.
Even if it means possibly saving the lives of all of the children in the classroom?
Having an armed teacher does not mean it will prevent any deaths in the event of a classroom shooting.
In fact if the teacher does not have the training of a soldier or a police officer there is a greater likelihood of collateral damage.
You're right in a sense that there are no absolutes and having armed teachers is not a guarantee of safety. But, it could possibly serve as a deterrent to school shootings in the first place.
Training is not difficult if you're training someone who takes it seriously, knows how to minimize potential risks and realizes that the gun is a last resort, not a first line of defense.
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If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
My daughter who just went off to college sent me this. It's funny. But sad, too. I don't know the solution to the gun problem. But I think arming teachers is a terrible idea.
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.Lot of depressed areas around colleges due to the itenerant nature of the housing. Off campus has a greater potential for crime in general.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
It may take an additional effort from a CounterNRA owner lobby to force things along.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
the American attitude towards gun ownership is so insane.
#nralogic
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
So guns are here and humans are here so it is what it is.
Guns + Hunans= Death.
Oh how wonderful it must be to live in gun free culture/country.
But fuck that I have my rights and you'll have to pry my gun from my cold dead hand. Yeay!!!!
In most states if your weapon gets stolen from you and used in a crime because you did not secure it properly then you are liable. This needs to be enforced in every state.
Guns in schools?
Unreal.
I am happy to have one in flight.
I am not happy to have one in a childs classroom.
I am mixed on this idea but lean to the no.
I would like society to get it right and treat school as a safe space.
Guns and kids not a place to be.
In fact if the teacher does not have the training of a soldier or a police officer there is a greater likelihood of collateral damage.
Training is not difficult if you're training someone who takes it seriously, knows how to minimize potential risks and realizes that the gun is a last resort, not a first line of defense.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/10/ut-gun-carry-protest/
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