America's Gun Violence

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,948
    Not shown as disproven during that Dallas cop shootings either. Didn't open carry create even more chaos and fear? Same could be said at many political gatherings. Not to mention when armed men were carrying military grade weapons while stalking innocent Muslims while on their way in and out of their mosque. Open carry creates fear, and it makes it impossible to discern between the good guys and the bad guys during some kind of shooting incident. Plus they leave themselves open to criminals snatching their guns. Plus people have been known to shoot the wrong people in their excitement to shoot a bad guy. There are a lot of good real life arguments against open carry.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited September 2016
    I've never seen an open carry person being shot by someone excited to shoot a bad guy.

    Speaking of myths...


    Military grade weapons? Nope. Not legal for average people.
    Post edited by unsung on
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Political gatherings? Huh?
  • unsung said:

    US FBI statistics disagree with you.

    really? so gun violence in Canada and Australia is higher than in the US?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be
  • unsung said:

    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be

    but your responded to my post directly about it working in other countries, saying "the FBI disagrees with me". we are sovereign nations as well. the queen is merely an antiquated figurehead. Much like your president.
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  • unsung said:

    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be

    Of course you dont care. It doesn't help your theory.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Well I'd agree with that under most circumstances, but the office has abused Executive Orders way too often.

    And no, I'm not speaking of only the current occupier.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be

    but your responded to my post directly about it working in other countries, saying "the FBI disagrees with me". we are sovereign nations as well. the queen is merely an antiquated figurehead. Much like your president.
    And I don't tell you how your laws should be.
  • unsung said:

    unsung said:

    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be

    but your responded to my post directly about it working in other countries, saying "the FBI disagrees with me". we are sovereign nations as well. the queen is merely an antiquated figurehead. Much like your president.
    And I don't tell you how your laws should be.
    jesus. here he go again. I care because:

    -I don't only give a shit about humans that occupy the space within my magical border
    -I have family that live in your country.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Jesus, a no borders argument.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,948
    unsung said:

    Political gatherings? Huh?

    Rallies, protests, conventions... political gatherings.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,948
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be

    but your responded to my post directly about it working in other countries, saying "the FBI disagrees with me". we are sovereign nations as well. the queen is merely an antiquated figurehead. Much like your president.
    And I don't tell you how your laws should be.
    Oh FFS. So he's not allowed to have an opinion about it?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • unsung said:

    Jesus, a no borders argument.

    who said anything about no borders? I can express an opinion since it could potentially affect me personally. how difficult is that to understand?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,359

    mace1229 said:

    You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

    wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
    semi auto pistols.

    Godfather.

    And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?
    sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
    on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
    and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

    Godfather.

    You wonder how people exist by not wanting civilians to have access to military grade weapons? Really? It's hard to wonder why people don't want guys to be able to buy hand grenades, tanks, machine guns, and bombs?

    To put your mind at ease and prevent you from wondering, im existing just fine. I can't speak for the others you claim have no common sense.
    I would totally buy a grenade if I had the chance and take it to my favorite fishing spot.
    Which is one reason why its a good thing grenades aren't legal.
    Nice I'd pay to see you blow yourself up ..
    it took me a while to respond because I had to re-learn how to type, without using fingers.
  • mace1229 said:

    mace1229 said:

    You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

    wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
    semi auto pistols.

    Godfather.

    And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?
    sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
    on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
    and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

    Godfather.

    You wonder how people exist by not wanting civilians to have access to military grade weapons? Really? It's hard to wonder why people don't want guys to be able to buy hand grenades, tanks, machine guns, and bombs?

    To put your mind at ease and prevent you from wondering, im existing just fine. I can't speak for the others you claim have no common sense.
    I would totally buy a grenade if I had the chance and take it to my favorite fishing spot.
    Which is one reason why its a good thing grenades aren't legal.
    Nice I'd pay to see you blow yourself up ..
    it took me a while to respond because I had to re-learn how to type, without using fingers.
    Lol nice yeah I'm an ass took it to another level , would not want any harm to come your way I'm being sincere...
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    Political gatherings? Huh?

    Rallies, protests, conventions... political gatherings.
    I can't imagine a more appropriate time for it.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,948
    edited September 2016
    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    Political gatherings? Huh?

    Rallies, protests, conventions... political gatherings.
    I can't imagine a more appropriate time for it.
    For what? Open carry? Yeah, no better time for open carry, when people are highly emotional, at odds with one another, and in large groups that are hard to monitor and control, and security is already a challenge without a bunch of people walking around with guns, lol. SMH.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    How often are people getting shot at political gatherings?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,948
    dudeman said:

    How often are people getting shot at political gatherings?

    I didn't say anyone was getting shot at political gatherings. I said it was a security problem because people can't tell the good guys from the bad guys IF something happens. I am talking about the risks open carry poses. The risks are real. And the intimidation/fear factor is real whether someone gets shot or not.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    PJ_Soul said:

    dudeman said:

    How often are people getting shot at political gatherings?

    I didn't say anyone was getting shot at political gatherings. I said it was a security problem because people can't tell the good guys from the bad guys IF something happens. I am talking about the risks open carry poses. The risks are real. And the intimidation/fear factor is real whether someone gets shot or not.
    I didn't say you did. I was just asking a question.
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  • unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..

    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
  • unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..

    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
    It's almost as if there isn't a whole wide world out there that isn't all open carry.....
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  • jnimhaoileoinjnimhaoileoin Posts: 2,682
    edited September 2016

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..

    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
    It's almost as if there isn't a whole wide world out there that isn't all open carry.....
    :wink:
  • unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..

    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
    I was up in NH this summer no open carry up there nice vacation , did white water rafting WV didn't see any open carry there ...so there's plenty of places I can go without having to worry about John Wayne's of the world plus there are other continents I can travel too !!
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..

    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
    I was up in NH this summer no open carry up there nice vacation , did white water rafting WV didn't see any open carry there ...so there's plenty of places I can go without having to worry about John Wayne's of the world plus there are other continents I can travel too !!
    shaking head still....all you people that are in such a hurry to infringe on the rights of others to own and carry, it's all about you right ?
    what's next on your agenda ? everybody has the right to an opinion but you anti gun folks are quick to use insults along with your arguments,
    why is that ?

    Godfather.

  • unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..

    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
    I was up in NH this summer no open carry up there nice vacation , did white water rafting WV didn't see any open carry there ...so there's plenty of places I can go without having to worry about John Wayne's of the world plus there are other continents I can travel too !!
    shaking head still....all you people that are in such a hurry to infringe on the rights of others to own and carry, it's all about you right ?
    what's next on your agenda ? everybody has the right to an opinion but you anti gun folks are quick to use insults along with your arguments,
    why is that ?

    Godfather.

    What insults? I'll say it to you or anyone else: my right to live is worth more than your right to own and carry a gun. Period.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..

    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
    I was up in NH this summer no open carry up there nice vacation , did white water rafting WV didn't see any open carry there ...so there's plenty of places I can go without having to worry about John Wayne's of the world plus there are other continents I can travel too !!
    LOL, NH is one of the best states for gun rights. It most certainly is open carry. You just may not have seen anyone.
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