America's Gun Violence

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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    PJ_Soul said:

    Interesting. Well I guess perhaps a point has made. I was dissuaded from using a gun because of high ammo prices (despite my friend trying to persuade me. He even offered to pay for my ammo, but I refused because just the principle of paying that much for shooting little bits of metal at a target seems a ridiculous waste of money). And no, it wasn't just an easy excuse to not go for me, lol. So it seems like dramatically raising ammo prices in the US really might help to calm the gun culture down there over time.

    Raising ammo prices would definitely prevent some people from being able to afford to shoot regularly. Some areas have tried "Ammo Tax" legislation but it has largely failed. It always opens the debate that it would unfairly effect poor people who have just as much of a right to self-preservation as rich people.

    If such a thing were implemented nationally, I imagine there would be a surge in black market ammo/arms dealing and more theft.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    Stickman12 said:

    http://youtu.be/sJ19_qYPuyM

    Just seen this. Thought it would be excellent for schools, offices, or any other application.

    This is clever!
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  • Stickman12
    Stickman12 Posts: 504
    I think this situation also illustrates why some people buy ammo consistently. So that when they do go to the range they don't have that out of pocket cost hit them all at once. If you have an inventory then you can take what you need for the day and keep you costs spread out instead of all at once. I know this is what I do. Also because I take other with me to the range who are barely getting by financially, it allows me to "treat" them without them having to have any out of pocket costs.
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    I do this too.

    It seems that every time rumors of new gun control laws start circulating, people start hoarding ammo. This drives costs up.

    I just got a "special offer" in my email for a bulk pack of. 22 lr. It was only $50.00. A few years ago that same box cost $15.00.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,437
    dudeman said:

    I do this too.

    It seems that every time rumors of new gun control laws start circulating, people start hoarding ammo. This drives costs up.

    I just got a "special offer" in my email for a bulk pack of. 22 lr. It was only $50.00. A few years ago that same box cost $15.00.

    Gotta love capitalism
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    I know I give Obummer a hard time on these boards all the time, but I got to hand it to guy, he truely is the worlds best Gun Salesman. My Smith and Wesson stock has gone through the roof !!!!
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    I know when I purchase my items made to kill humans and other living beings...I don't want to pay very much.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,437
    Smellyman said:

    I know when I purchase my items made to kill humans and other living beings...I don't want to pay very much.

    Its even better to get dividends as a result of death and irrational fear.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    Sometimes the fear is rational. Best to be prepared, no?
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    dudeman said:

    Sometimes the fear is rational. Best to be prepared, no?

    It will only help weed out the population. Darwin at work I guess is a good thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXtBZPONSCc
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    You can find videos of people doing all kinds of stupid shit with any manner of objects. That doesn't do anything for me.

    What about the victims of violent crime? Domestic violence? Are they living with irrational fear? Is it okay for them to defend their lives and the lives of their children with firearms?
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited January 2016
    dudeman said:

    You can find videos of people doing all kinds of stupid shit with any manner of objects. That doesn't do anything for me.

    What about the victims of violent crime? Domestic violence? Are they living with irrational fear? Is it okay for them to defend their lives and the lives of their children with firearms?

    Does me....idiots make me laugh. Ones that could kill me, not so much.

    Only in the US where guns are legal are people living in fear. Fox News and NRA perpetuating the fear in the weak minded. Be afraid Dude...be very afraid man.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Smellyman said:

    dudeman said:

    Sometimes the fear is rational. Best to be prepared, no?

    It will only help weed out the population. Darwin at work I guess is a good thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXtBZPONSCc
    Responsible gun owners before they became irresponsible.

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Smellyman said:

    I know when I purchase my items made to kill humans and other living beings...I don't want to pay very much.

    I don't always kill other people... but when I do... I use cheap, on-line ammunition. Stay armed my friends.

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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    Smellyman said:

    dudeman said:

    You can find videos of people doing all kinds of stupid shit with any manner of objects. That doesn't do anything for me.

    What about the victims of violent crime? Domestic violence? Are they living with irrational fear? Is it okay for them to defend their lives and the lives of their children with firearms?

    Does me....idiots make me laugh. Ones that could kill me, not so much.

    Only in the US where guns are legal are people living in fear. Fox News and NRA perpetuating the fear in the weak minded. Be afraid Dude...be very afraid man.
    Fox News and the NRA have absolutely nothing to do with the reasons I feel law-abiding citizens should be able to choose to own firearms for self-preservation.

    That's a pretty dismissive attitude you have towards victims of violence.

    Good luck with that.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    dudeman said:

    Smellyman said:

    dudeman said:

    You can find videos of people doing all kinds of stupid shit with any manner of objects. That doesn't do anything for me.

    What about the victims of violent crime? Domestic violence? Are they living with irrational fear? Is it okay for them to defend their lives and the lives of their children with firearms?

    Does me....idiots make me laugh. Ones that could kill me, not so much.

    Only in the US where guns are legal are people living in fear. Fox News and NRA perpetuating the fear in the weak minded. Be afraid Dude...be very afraid man.
    Fox News and the NRA have absolutely nothing to do with the reasons I feel law-abiding citizens should be able to choose to own firearms for self-preservation.

    That's a pretty dismissive attitude you have towards victims of violence.

    Good luck with that.
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  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    who ever uses the sword will die by the sword
    i have no time for people who have no reason
    (or reason) to act so stupid with weapons
    rather a legal cup of Tea... than put up with it
    so stick that in your pipe and smoke it well try to
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,437
    A bullet is hot when its is expelled from the barrel rght? So in theory it would melt snow, yes?

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/drunken-massachusetts-man-opens-fire-after-getting-stuck-behind-snow-plow-during-blizzard-police/?utm_content=buffer185bf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    edited February 2016
    What a douche!

    And yes, bullets get hot when fired. I recently read an article that detailed what is happening to a rifle bullet during flight. They found that polymer tipped bullets get hot enough for the tip to melt.
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  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    JWPearl said:

    who ever uses the sword will die by the sword
    i have no time for people who have no reason
    (or reason) to act so stupid with weapons
    rather a legal cup of Tea... than put up with it
    so stick that in your pipe and smoke it well try to

    Bibi Netenyahu would have been slayed by your proverbial sword in utero if that was the case.

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