Ten Club/Newbury Comics RSD Coke Bottle Clear Vinyl Ten LP in Shop.

Dr. Delight

BS44325 said:

Many people who are complaining have no understanding of what Record Store Day is all about. It is the whole idea of the limited release that gets vinyl enthusiasts to visit an independent record store searching for that one difficult find. Yes these sold out right away but over the years they will drift out into the greater world and behind the counters of your favorite store. Pressing thousands so that everyone on the forum can order one comfortably from their couch defeats the whole purpose of this release. Pearl Jam didn't do this to pad their pockets. They did this to add one more hidden gem to the vibrant catalogues of the independent record stores that are fortunately still with us today. So if you want this record go to your local store and search for it. And while you're searching don't be surprised if you find another hidden gem that you didn't even know you were looking for. Because that is what Record Store Day is all about.

If thats the case, then why was it sold online, using computers. No one stood in a line at a record store. No one perused through aisles of records while they purchased this lp. These records aren't ending up in the stores. They're being shipped out straight to homes.

hrd2imgn

yeah record store day is about getting out and supporting your local record store, not a band's web store.

Really Santos, this recent rash of sudden sells is annoying. I know you are doing it to keep the servers from crashing, but is it that hard to give a days notice?

scurtis

Dr. Delight said:

BS44325 said:

Many people who are complaining have no understanding of what Record Store Day is all about. It is the whole idea of the limited release that gets vinyl enthusiasts to visit an independent record store searching for that one difficult find. Yes these sold out right away but over the years they will drift out into the greater world and behind the counters of your favorite store. Pressing thousands so that everyone on the forum can order one comfortably from their couch defeats the whole purpose of this release. Pearl Jam didn't do this to pad their pockets. They did this to add one more hidden gem to the vibrant catalogues of the independent record stores that are fortunately still with us today. So if you want this record go to your local store and search for it. And while you're searching don't be surprised if you find another hidden gem that you didn't even know you were looking for. Because that is what Record Store Day is all about.

If thats the case, then why was it sold online, using computers. No one stood in a line at a record store. No one perused through aisles of records while they purchased this lp. These records aren't ending up in the stores. They're being shipped out straight to homes.

I think he meant over time, one year, five years... who knows, some of these will end up in the stores, eventually.

Leezestarr313

I saw this on facebook (thank you, Demetrios, for sharing the news all the time )and went over to Newbury. At first I thought it was a April Fools' joke too, and waited a little. Then I saw that it was also offered on Tenclub. I went here, put it in my cart, but it was gone when I checked out. So I completed my purchase at Newbury. I just recently got myself Bleach on coloured vinyl there too. They seem to be cool.
I already have an original Ten vinyl (which I also got cheap on the bay a couple of years ago), but I don't have the Ten Redux on vinyl yet. I love coloured vinyl too and the price was good. That was my argument for buying one. Unlike when I considered getting Sevens and decided against it.

Now where's that Benaroya Hall RSD vinyl release, Pearl Jam?

And hell yeah, I'd totally get a PJ lunchbox too

Zod

BS44325 said:

Many people who are complaining have no understanding of what Record Store Day is all about. It is the whole idea of the limited release that gets vinyl enthusiasts to visit an independent record store searching for that one difficult find.

That's what RSD is but I'm not sure that's what it is trying to be (or started out to be). I visit my local record store a few times a month to see what they have. RSD tends to be the most dissapointing day of the year as you always miss out on some super rare album.

I think RSD is becoming more of a "Record Collector Dissapointment" day with each passing year. Unless you live in a small market you have to line hours early to stand a chance at getting anything interesting. I actually spend the least amount of time in the record store on RSD. Spend all the time in lineup and I just want to GTFO

RSD started off as putting out special release to get people back into record stores. The original stuff was limited in nature but vinyl was less popular back then so stuff wasn't so hard to get. Now that RSD has help do what it was supposed to do (get people buying vinyl) it would be nice if they upped the pressings a bit. Not enough to to provide a month long supply of records, but enough that people can find the records, or walk into the record store a few hours after it opens and buy the releases.

In most places there's no point going to RSD unless you line up before doors, so it's more like record store hour. If you show up after it's business as usual. Could of shown up any other day.

i_lov_it

Sold out already?...That was quick.

Leezestarr313

I still do enjoy RDS. Last time, I lined up for the first time all by myself. I was the first in line and got everything I wanted. It was a very cool experience. I will still go this time too. I love the little talks with the people in the line and the silent excitement when you get to go to the tables to check the stuff out. It's a little bit like christmas. I guess our record stores are not as crowded as in a big city though, that makes for a nicer experience...

tubes10s

moozeekfan said:

I would like to see a system like the ticket lottery where the TC gives everyone who's interested an opportunity to place an order for one copy and then pick 1000 orders at random when the registration period is over. Not perfect, but gives everyone an equal shake.

Not trying to open up a can of worms with the ticket lottery comparison, or get off topic. It seems like with a fan club this size and this passionate, it may be a way to please the most people at one time.

I don't see how that's any more or less of an equal shake. Both methods are fairly random, since we don't know when these emails will pop up. I also don't see how this could be a way to please the most people at one time... the number of people getting the item isn't changing, so the same number of people will be pleased when they get their item, whether it was a lottery or first come first served.

PJ Fan 1978

Glad to be a member so I can overpay on Ebay

mick29

BinFrog said:

mick29 said:

Release EV said:

Ok. So this was once again another thing released over night Australian time. I woke to this nightmare.

If anyone was lucky enough and got multiples at Newbury and wants to make someone really happy please PM me.

Exactly, the email came through for me at 3:17am, I was up around 5:30ish, checked emails about 20 mins later, followed link with not much hope of success and was not surprised they were sold out. Would it be too hard to release something at a time when at least most people are awake? Not the first time.

No offense, but they are an American-based band. They did release when most people were awake.

This is true, however there are more countries in the world than America and I would almost bet my house on it that the global fan base is larger than the 'American' one.

Even if they could advertise the presale like someone else has mentioned to be on at a certain time etc, then ppl can decide if they wish to get be up ready and waiting.

Would also eliminate the received emails to fan club members that arrived after they were sold out which happened to a fair few 'American' members by the looks of it.

Pernille

jonsey30 said:

I was out to lunch when the e-mail came through, and I was able to get right in and get a copy on my phone. I don't understand people that don't get e-mail on their phone. Then I checked when I got back into the office and it was sold out. So I had to come back tonight to read the bitching, and DAMN! I didn't expect 13 pages of it, and multiple other threads in multiple sections of the forum. I'm glad I got one, and I feel for those that didn't.

Could you imagine if this was a No Code re-issue? This place would be a zoo!

I tried to buy one six (SIX!!!) minutes after I recieved the email. It was sold out. For a minute I thought, Yay for once I get a chance to get my hands on some of that fine vinyl, but no. I think the email must have been sent out in several batches. Even with Pearl Jam I don't think this could sell out in six minutes.

With Sevens I was bummed because I didn't see the email until a day later, but now I'm even more bummed cos I thought I actually had a chance. I agree with the person who said they should at least make it 10,000 copies - I'm sure it would still sell out pretty fast but a lot more people would be happy.

Release EV

mick29 said:

BinFrog said:

mick29 said:

Release EV said:

Ok. So this was once again another thing released over night Australian time. I woke to this nightmare.

If anyone was lucky enough and got multiples at Newbury and wants to make someone really happy please PM me.

Exactly, the email came through for me at 3:17am, I was up around 5:30ish, checked emails about 20 mins later, followed link with not much hope of success and was not surprised they were sold out. Would it be too hard to release something at a time when at least most people are awake? Not the first time.

No offense, but they are an American-based band. They did release when most people were awake.

This is true, however there are more countries in the world than America and I would almost bet my house on it that the global fan base is larger than the 'American' one.

Even if they could advertise the presale like someone else has mentioned to be on at a certain time etc, then ppl can decide if they wish to get be up ready and waiting.

Would also eliminate the received emails to fan club members that arrived after they were sold out which happened to a fair few 'American' members by the looks of it.

But back to the original point us aussies are making these releases are constantly released btn 3-5am AEST, the most populus zone for Australia. Not midnight, not 6am. Either of those 2 times would still be fine for the majority of the US. And binfrog let me remind u pj hail from usa but have a global audience. Continuing that argument after 23 odd years. Omg. We are paid up members wanting a fair go. Missed mad season, all recent 7" and was only lucky on sevens because you guys in the USA second guessed. See the pattern. ..not fair to a contingent of the paid up member fan base. Mick was just explaining the situation. ..this site would melt down if it was other way around. Anyways I am privileged to have such awesome buddies on here

i_lov_it

Release EV said:

mick29 said:

BinFrog said:

mick29 said:

Release EV said:

Ok. So this was once again another thing released over night Australian time. I woke to this nightmare.

If anyone was lucky enough and got multiples at Newbury and wants to make someone really happy please PM me.

Exactly, the email came through for me at 3:17am, I was up around 5:30ish, checked emails about 20 mins later, followed link with not much hope of success and was not surprised they were sold out. Would it be too hard to release something at a time when at least most people are awake? Not the first time.

No offense, but they are an American-based band. They did release when most people were awake.

This is true, however there are more countries in the world than America and I would almost bet my house on it that the global fan base is larger than the 'American' one.

Even if they could advertise the presale like someone else has mentioned to be on at a certain time etc, then ppl can decide if they wish to get be up ready and waiting.

Would also eliminate the received emails to fan club members that arrived after they were sold out which happened to a fair few 'American' members by the looks of it.

But back to the original point us aussies are making these releases are constantly released btn 3-5am AEST, the most populus zone for Australia. Not midnight, not 6am. Either of those 2 times would still be fine for the majority of the US. And binfrog let me remind u pj hail from usa but have a global audience. Continuing that argument after 23 odd years. Omg. We are paid up members wanting a fair go. Missed mad season, all recent 7" and was only lucky on sevens because you guys in the USA second guessed. See the pattern. ..not fair to a contingent of the paid up member fan base. Mick was just explaining the situation. ..this site would melt down if it was other way around. Anyways I am privileged to have such awesome buddies off here

Well exactly Midnight AEST would be Good especially for People like me in the West because that would only be 9pm either that or have it say at 9am AEST...I opened up the email Clicked on the Link all Sold Out.

Spags

Way I see it, this release was a limited run used as a promotional tool for Record Store Day. If they'd pressed 10,000 records instead of 2,000 then the hype wouldn't have been as big and the impact of the promotion would have been damaged. They could have just limit it to 1,000 copies only available via the record store of their choosing, but was great to see that they extended this to Ten Club members also (probably because they knew the uproar if they didn't). Newbury have stated that they'll have copies in store on RSD, thus bringing in record buyers and collectors which can only be a good thing for the format and the industry as a whole. Job done. Being a comic book store they're used to doing these types of offers with store cover exclusives, so its no surprise that they've extended it out to Vinyl, huge cross over appeal at the moment - Ghostface went the other way and released a comic to coincide with his latest solo project. Ultimately is all just marketing, but if you dig coloured vinyl of the best album in the world then this is fantastic! Thanks to 10c for including us on this, my chances of getting a copy here were much higher than if it had been just via Newbury (or released worldwide in stores via RSD in limited number).

mrk2

boo hoo, didn't get one. Gonna go cry myself to sleep with my Benny, Sevens and Vault3

jlj_swe

I actually had "my hands" on one copy yesterday. While I was filling in my credit card no I took a minute to think it over...do i really need this? I already have Ten Redux on vinyl and the only difference is that this is limited. After a minute I decided to click "buy" but then it was too late.
Guess I didn't need it after all :-)

Timewaits4no1

BS44325 said:

Many people who are complaining have no understanding of what Record Store Day is all about. It is the whole idea of the limited release that gets vinyl enthusiasts to visit an independent record store searching for that one difficult find. Yes these sold out right away but over the years they will drift out into the greater world and behind the counters of your favorite store. Pressing thousands so that everyone on the forum can order one comfortably from their couch defeats the whole purpose of this release. Pearl Jam didn't do this to pad their pockets. They did this to add one more hidden gem to the vibrant catalogues of the independent record stores that are fortunately still with us today. So if you want this record go to your local store and search for it. And while you're searching don't be surprised if you find another hidden gem that you didn't even know you were looking for. Because that is what Record Store Day is all about.

Ok while I enjoyed your eloquent style of writing, I gotta call bs on a couple things. These will not "drift out into the greater world, behind counters of your favorite store". What's the chance of randomly finding a Sevens or a Vault at your local store? Pretty much zero. Unfortunately because of who Pj decided to partner with, far to many of these are going straight into flippers/trippers hands. I don't know if this was a cash grab or not but it sure feels like one. Low quality, pretty colored, re~release of a re-issue. Not even sure why they advertised the fact that its 120g, although it does look cool at least. There are multiple other company's they could of easily worked with that would of at least put this on quality vinyl, and handled it properly. This was sold as an "RSD" item online, weeks before RSD and their partner was allowed to sell quantitys of 5. As a paying member of 10club, we could buy 1. Anyone else been to RSD events that you could buy qtys of 5 on ltd ed's? Nope, me either. Not exactly in the spirit of RSD. Congrats to anyone that was able to score 1 tho. I have no problem with Ltd ed items and I'm not the 1 that bitches cause I missed out but this could of easily been handled in a quality way that didn't encourage fans and flippers to feast on the less fortunate. I dunno, anymore I get the sense that Pj has little to do with the 10club. I hope I'm wrong but its just the sense I get. Then again, it may have nothing to do with 10club but because communication isn't great it makes you wonder who's calling the shots.

boyo79

Timewaits4no1 said:

BS44325 said:

Many people who are complaining have no understanding of what Record Store Day is all about. It is the whole idea of the limited release that gets vinyl enthusiasts to visit an independent record store searching for that one difficult find. Yes these sold out right away but over the years they will drift out into the greater world and behind the counters of your favorite store. Pressing thousands so that everyone on the forum can order one comfortably from their couch defeats the whole purpose of this release. Pearl Jam didn't do this to pad their pockets. They did this to add one more hidden gem to the vibrant catalogues of the independent record stores that are fortunately still with us today. So if you want this record go to your local store and search for it. And while you're searching don't be surprised if you find another hidden gem that you didn't even know you were looking for. Because that is what Record Store Day is all about.

Ok while I enjoyed your eloquent style of writing, I gotta call bs on a couple things. These will not "drift out into the greater world, behind counters of your favorite store". What's the chance of randomly finding a Sevens or a Vault at your local store? Pretty much zero. Unfortunately because of who Pj decided to partner with, far to many of these are going straight into flippers/trippers hands. I don't know if this was a cash grab or not but it sure feels like one. Low quality, pretty colored, re~release of a re-issue. Not even sure why they advertised the fact that its 120g, although it does look cool at least. There are multiple other company's they could of easily worked with that would of at least put this on quality vinyl, and handled it properly. This was sold as an "RSD" item online, weeks before RSD and their partner was allowed to sell quantitys of 5. As a paying member of 10club, we could buy 1. Anyone else been to RSD events that you could buy qtys of 5 on ltd ed's? Nope, me either. Not exactly in the spirit of RSD. Congrats to anyone that was able to score 1 tho. I have no problem with Ltd ed items and I'm not the 1 that bitches cause I missed out but this could of easily been handled in a quality way that didn't encourage fans and flippers to feast on the less fortunate. I dunno, anymore I get the sense that Pj has little to do with the 10club. I hope I'm wrong but its just the sense I get. Then again, it may have nothing to do with 10club but because communication isn't great it makes you wonder who's calling the shots.

This release has absolutely nothing to do with RSD. 10c have merely thrown the tag of RSD out there. If it was a true RSD release you'd be waiting til RSD to go buy this - in a record store, not sat behind a computer!!

buck502000

Timewaits4no1 said:

BS44325 said:

Many people who are complaining have no understanding of what Record Store Day is all about. It is the whole idea of the limited release that gets vinyl enthusiasts to visit an independent record store searching for that one difficult find. Yes these sold out right away but over the years they will drift out into the greater world and behind the counters of your favorite store. Pressing thousands so that everyone on the forum can order one comfortably from their couch defeats the whole purpose of this release. Pearl Jam didn't do this to pad their pockets. They did this to add one more hidden gem to the vibrant catalogues of the independent record stores that are fortunately still with us today. So if you want this record go to your local store and search for it. And while you're searching don't be surprised if you find another hidden gem that you didn't even know you were looking for. Because that is what Record Store Day is all about.

Ok while I enjoyed your eloquent style of writing, I gotta call bs on a couple things. These will not "drift out into the greater world, behind counters of your favorite store". What's the chance of randomly finding a Sevens or a Vault at your local store? Pretty much zero. Unfortunately because of who Pj decided to partner with, far to many of these are going straight into flippers/trippers hands. I don't know if this was a cash grab or not but it sure feels like one. Low quality, pretty colored, re~release of a re-issue. Not even sure why they advertised the fact that its 120g, although it does look cool at least. There are multiple other company's they could of easily worked with that would of at least put this on quality vinyl, and handled it properly. This was sold as an "RSD" item online, weeks before RSD and their partner was allowed to sell quantitys of 5. As a paying member of 10club, we could buy 1. Anyone else been to RSD events that you could buy qtys of 5 on ltd ed's? Nope, me either. Not exactly in the spirit of RSD. Congrats to anyone that was able to score 1 tho. I have no problem with Ltd ed items and I'm not the 1 that bitches cause I missed out but this could of easily been handled in a quality way that didn't encourage fans and flippers to feast on the less fortunate. I dunno, anymore I get the sense that Pj has little to do with the 10club. I hope I'm wrong but its just the sense I get. Then again, it may have nothing to do with 10club but because communication isn't great it makes you wonder who's calling the shots.

Sometimes I feel like bands(not just PJ) forget about their fans and the music. That is what happens when something like music becomes commoditized. It's unfortunate, but with the age of the internet upon us, bands have to find ways to create income. I don't agree with some of the things the bands do, but I can sometimes understand why they do them.

Sidenote: I like how my local record store will hide some of the highly sought-after RSD releases though out the racks.

Cheers. :-bd

pdalowsky

how could this possibly be a cash grab?

$30 x 1000 is a max return of $30,000 less manufacturing costs, and all the other things that eat into the product cost. Plus whatever rake the band get from the 1000 newbury records, which I wouldn't expect would be a great deal. I don't think Pearl jam are hard up for 30 grand.

They handed a cheque over to the fan from the Phlilipines on the last tour for 25 grand just as a gesture to the folk suffering out there.

Limited items seem to work for this fanbase. How often have we seen this type of shit storm after an item sells out? You might think folk would shun the next sale? But quite to the contrary it actually fuels the hype, to make the demand more rabid next time.....it might not be pretty but damn it works well.

Limited items are cool........2000 records are a lot, theres gonna be a stack resold on the open market and like sevens the price will dive after the initial rush to grab one subsides. I mean the Vault thing was available for what a month? and rumour has it sold around 3000 units, drop a LTD release the they are gone almost in the same quantity in half an hour. Its quite clear this is a very effective sales method.