Can't wait for the next limited edition release and the same thread that goes with it. We know PJ love to release a ton of mer h nowdays - some of it good, some terrible. We know a percentage of people will buy this stuff to flip/trade. Bottomline is if people are willing to buy something on the secondary market for $250 that cost an intital $30 2 days ago then the only people to blame are the people encouraging flippers.
I'm guilty of selling stuff for more than I paid so I guess that makes me a flipper too. Anyone with any sense to turn $30 into $250 would do it without thinking twice and you right Ian, it's the ones who will pay those prices that fuel it. These people have no right to criticize flippers or scalpers. Now who wants my Coke bottle Ten... )
Like a book among the many on a shelf...
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Gotta love Capitalism, but it is also nice to see some people think of others before themselves.... Which doesn't happen much when limited merch is involved. The 'I Me Mine' mentality kicks in for some.
I think reasonable DOES apply to trades. Trades have a cash value. I just think it's pretentious for someone to think they can unload a $30 record that they don't even physically have, for a record valued at ~$200.
I wouldn't mind so much if the same number of people were offering up their copies of Rearviewmirror or Lost Dogs to trade for coke bottleTen.
It's lopsided in a huge, unreasonable way, but I guess if you're up for the trade then good on ya.
I don't think it's no longer a thirty dollar record once it sells out. The value now is whatever some yoyo is willing to pay for it.
Just gonna clarify it for you - the presale has sold out. There will be copies available in the stores on April 15th.
So yeah, it's still a $30 record.
Until NC raises the price $10-20 because of what it's going for on the secondary market. Then it's not a $30 record anymore.
What I don't quite understand is, given this is a RSD release, why were some released by 10C, which the last time I checked is not an independent record store, and the remainder released by ONE record store (albeit w/ multiple locations)? I love me some 10C but they're consistently perplexing in how they run the biz. Kudos to those who were able to score a very limited, limited RSD release.
What I don't quite understand is, given this is a RSD release, why were some released by 10C, which the last time I checked is not an independent record store, and the remainder released by ONE record store (albeit w/ multiple locations)? I love me some 10C but they're consistently perplexing in how they run the biz. Kudos to those who were able to score a very limited, limited RSD release.
It's NOT a Record Store Day release....the 10C description is incorrect.
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They have done that before. AND flipped their exclusive pressings on eBay.
I'm going through their listings (including sold), all buy-it-now, and don't see any price difference between what they are offering via their web store and what they are selling on Ebay.
Mansfield 06.28.2008 | Boston 05.17.2010 | Boston 06.19.2011 EV solo | Wrigley Field 07.19.2013 | Worcester 10.15.2013 | Worcester 10.16.2013 | Hartford 10.25.2013
Vancouver 12.04.2013 | Seattle 12.06.2013 | Memphis 10.14.2014 | Quebec City 05.05.2016 | Ottawa 05.08.2016 | Toronto 05.11.2016 | Boston 08.05.2016 | Boston 08.07.2016 | Amsterdam 06.12.2018 | Boston 09.02.2018 | Boston 09.04.2018
Nothing shows up for the Volcano Choir exclusive press being sold by Newbury Comics.
Selling it for $5-$10 over is hardly "flipping" in my opinion. That would just cover the fees eBay and paypal take. Besides - it's THEIR exclusive vinyl release - so how is that flipping anyway?
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Vancouver 12.04.2013 | Seattle 12.06.2013 | Memphis 10.14.2014 | Quebec City 05.05.2016 | Ottawa 05.08.2016 | Toronto 05.11.2016 | Boston 08.05.2016 | Boston 08.07.2016 | Amsterdam 06.12.2018 | Boston 09.02.2018 | Boston 09.04.2018
Sorry, I'm just chiming in since I've been reading along and maybe they did but it sounds pretty doubtful that ALL of that show was donated to charity. But you also can't blame someone for making money, shit if I could I would! Reminds me of Yankee haters always quoting salaries and cash as their excuses when their teams just took longer to realize that it's all a business and that they all just do it too.
And yes PJ soul, it kind of does seem like your ragging on those that are pissed, and defending the band because you got one. I can see both sides. It certainly doesn't suck when you scored one!
Anyway, the lesson to me about the whole thing is to be on high alert on Tuesdays, and of course on the 10th of the month.
The Yankees don't sing songs about greed and abuse of power.
Yawn,
attitudes change, responsibilities change, morals evolve, life experience can play a large role in shifting ethics........ Im not entirely sure I live by what I thought was the right way 20 years ago, how about you?
Yes, I just hope the fan base will/can also see the change that is occuring with the band.
"When progress could be plausible In reverse we curse ourselves"
What I don't quite understand is, given this is a RSD release, why were some released by 10C, which the last time I checked is not an independent record store, and the remainder released by ONE record store (albeit w/ multiple locations)? I love me some 10C but they're consistently perplexing in how they run the biz. Kudos to those who were able to score a very limited, limited RSD release.
It's NOT a Record Store Day release....the 10C description is incorrect.
Yep!
Newbury ...
10club ..
...
Just imagine for a minute & wonder what would of happened if TenClub & Newbury Comics waited. Waited to drop this sale Coke Bottle Clear Vinyl Ten LP on Saturday April 19th on Record Store Day.
Sorry, I'm just chiming in since I've been reading along and maybe they did but it sounds pretty doubtful that ALL of that show was donated to charity. But you also can't blame someone for making money, shit if I could I would! Reminds me of Yankee haters always quoting salaries and cash as their excuses when their teams just took longer to realize that it's all a business and that they all just do it too.
And yes PJ soul, it kind of does seem like your ragging on those that are pissed, and defending the band because you got one. I can see both sides. It certainly doesn't suck when you scored one!
Anyway, the lesson to me about the whole thing is to be on high alert on Tuesdays, and of course on the 10th of the month.
The Yankees don't sing songs about greed and abuse of power.
Yawn,
attitudes change, responsibilities change, morals evolve, life experience can play a large role in shifting ethics........ Im not entirely sure I live by what I thought was the right way 20 years ago, how about you?
Yes, I just hope the fan base will/can also see the change that is occuring with the band.
"When progress could be plausible In reverse we curse ourselves"
Keep on building your floors guys.
so, you didn't answer the question, did you or did you not buy into this 'boring' cash grab?
I guess I should preface this with, "yes, I got one".
The value on this thing will drop faster than my pants on prom night...for those looking, hold out. Some of these trades are a tragedy and a joke. Anyone willing to trade a Lost Dogs for this record needs to have their head checked after getting kicked in the nuts.
I guess I should preface this with, "yes, I got one".
The value on this thing will drop faster than my pants on prom night...for those looking, hold out. Some of these trades are a tragedy and a joke. Anyone willing to trade a Lost Dogs for this record needs to have their head checked after getting kicked in the nuts.
Haha! Agreed. I think it will retain some value, but probably settle around the value of a white backspacer. 2000 copies really isn't that limited IMO
PJ: 2003 Mansfield: July 2 2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29 2005 Montreal: Sept 15 2006 Boston: May 24 & 25 2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28, 2010 Boston: May 17 2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25, 2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7
I guess I should preface this with, "yes, I got one".
The value on this thing will drop faster than my pants on prom night...for those looking, hold out. Some of these trades are a tragedy and a joke. Anyone willing to trade a Lost Dogs for this record needs to have their head checked after getting kicked in the nuts.
Can't wait for the next limited edition release and the same thread that goes with it. We know PJ love to release a ton of mer h nowdays - some of it good, some terrible. We know a percentage of people will buy this stuff to flip/trade. Bottomline is if people are willing to buy something on the secondary market for $250 that cost an intital $30 2 days ago then the only people to blame are the people encouraging flippers.
Ding Ding!
This should be the end of the thread, because this is the answer.
I guess I should preface this with, "yes, I got one".
The value on this thing will drop faster than my pants on prom night...for those looking, hold out. Some of these trades are a tragedy and a joke. Anyone willing to trade a Lost Dogs for this record needs to have their head checked after getting kicked in the nuts.
I think that's a very safe assumption, that LD will never get a deluxe/re-release.
LD getting reissued? very doubtful, think of all the other albums and work (that should) get reissued or done first, including vaults, dvd's, boots, etc... No one is really interested in a LD repressing, I don't think so, but I could be very wrong. It seemed like at the time it was a "here's some b-sides" and that's it vibe.
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
im not in favor of re-pressing anything, unless it is completely "different" as far as packaging, vinyl color, etc.
Would rather see the release of "new material" on vinyl such as live stuff or the next generation of B-sides. Also would like to see some video releases
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Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12
Until NC raises the price $10-20 because of what it's going for on the secondary market. Then it's not a $30 record anymore.
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Vancouver 12.04.2013 | Seattle 12.06.2013 | Memphis 10.14.2014 | Quebec City 05.05.2016 | Ottawa 05.08.2016 | Toronto 05.11.2016 | Boston 08.05.2016 | Boston 08.07.2016 | Amsterdam 06.12.2018 | Boston 09.02.2018 | Boston 09.04.2018
Nothing shows up for the Volcano Choir exclusive press being sold by Newbury Comics.
Selling it for $5-$10 over is hardly "flipping" in my opinion. That would just cover the fees eBay and paypal take.
Besides - it's THEIR exclusive vinyl release - so how is that flipping anyway?
Vancouver 12.04.2013 | Seattle 12.06.2013 | Memphis 10.14.2014 | Quebec City 05.05.2016 | Ottawa 05.08.2016 | Toronto 05.11.2016 | Boston 08.05.2016 | Boston 08.07.2016 | Amsterdam 06.12.2018 | Boston 09.02.2018 | Boston 09.04.2018
"When progress could be plausible
In reverse we curse ourselves"
Keep on building your floors guys.
Newbury ...
10club ..
...
Just imagine for a minute & wonder what would of happened if TenClub & Newbury Comics waited. Waited to drop this sale Coke Bottle Clear Vinyl Ten LP on Saturday April 19th on Record Store Day.
The value on this thing will drop faster than my pants on prom night...for those looking, hold out. Some of these trades are a tragedy and a joke. Anyone willing to trade a Lost Dogs for this record needs to have their head checked after getting kicked in the nuts.
2003 Mansfield: July 2
2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
2005 Montreal: Sept 15
2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
2010 Boston: May 17
2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7
EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
Newbury. Looks like Dhl for international orders
Wind this thing up.
Wind this thing up.
So probably it will never be reissued...
This should be the end of the thread, because this is the answer.
But yeah, a deluxe for it would be silly and I don't think it would happen. But I do think a regular reissue will.
Would rather see the release of "new material" on vinyl such as live stuff or the next generation of B-sides. Also would like to see some video releases