It is sad to see the band churn out these bland songs on two consecutive records. I don't know what happened to these guys. Change is inevitable in a band, but that doesn't mean they should get a pass for songs like sirens and just breathe. These songs lack any of the depth or edge of their earlier ballads.
Worst of all is that we now have two records filled with really energy killing songs which are now peppered into their live set-lists. This affects the vibe and energy of the whole live show. It was brutal last tour to sit through those string ensembles playing just breathe and the end for 20 minutes in the middle of a rock and roll concert. Fans are sitting down at pearl jam shows for gods sakes.
I love this band, and their music has been a huge part of my life . Which is why it is so frustrating and sad to see the band devolve so much in terms of their new material. I never thought I would not be excited for a new PJ album to come out , but after hearing sirens that is exactly the case.
See you guys at barclays, its gonna be an 87% awesome show.
i guess all the previous year,you was doing Headbanging at come back,arc,better man,small town,black,release,.Oceans,soon forget,sleigh of hand,all or none,all those yesterday,fatal,hard to imagine,im mine,thin air, and so on..
I have nothing against ballads, it has been a part of pj since the beginning. However, if you have been to a show post backspacer you would know that the effect just breath and speed of sound had on their live shows was truly negative, in a way not seen before. The songs you mention add to the vibe of a pj show, their new ones suck the air out of the room. I have trouble understanding how someone can compare all those yesterdays to just breath.
I truly disagree on this one. I saw the emotions of the crowd during Come Back or Jusst Breathe. I was standing in Nijmegen and this whole crowd had an emotional outpour on Just Breathe. Just because its an acoustic song, does not mean it is a setlist killer. Sometimes I have trouble with Push Me Pull Me, on the other hand, I like the wackiness of it.
But Just Breathe/ The end are by any standards good songs, but should maybe get less rotated.
I have nothing against ballads, it has been a part of pj since the beginning. However, if you have been to a show post backspacer you would know that the effect just breath and speed of sound had on their live shows was truly negative, in a way not seen before. The songs you mention add to the vibe of a pj show, their new ones suck the air out of the room. I have trouble understanding how someone can compare all those yesterdays to just breath.
just breathe is a song,played the same and at the same place at setlist,thats why kills the vibe
and exactly i have trouble to understand how someone compare "the end and just breathe," songs eddie almost play alone with a guitar,with Sirens that all the band plays it and no one saw ever live..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I have nothing against ballads, it has been a part of pj since the beginning. However, if you have been to a show post backspacer you would know that the effect just breath and speed of sound had on their live shows was truly negative, in a way not seen before. The songs you mention add to the vibe of a pj show, their new ones suck the air out of the room. I have trouble understanding how someone can compare all those yesterdays to just breath.
just breathe is a song,played the same and at the same place at setlist,thats why kills the vibe
and exactly i have trouble to understand how someone compare "the end and just breathe," songs eddie almost play alone with a guitar,with Sirens that all the band plays it and no one saw ever live..
You really believe its the placement in the setlist? Cmon man, i know youre a loyal fan but denial is another thing. Speed of sound is played with the band and it stills kills the energy with a double barrel shotgun. I never mentioned the end, but Blaming it on solo eddie seams like a reach to me, its ok to dislike some of their work but still like them, you dont have to worry.
Nothing but thanks for those willing to give of their soul to a stranger. And I hate to say it but The Who are overated.
I have nothing against ballads, it has been a part of pj since the beginning. However, if you have been to a show post backspacer you would know that the effect just breath and speed of sound had on their live shows was truly negative, in a way not seen before. The songs you mention add to the vibe of a pj show, their new ones suck the air out of the room. I have trouble understanding how someone can compare all those yesterdays to just breath.
just breathe is a song,played the same and at the same place at setlist,thats why kills the vibe
and exactly i have trouble to understand how someone compare "the end and just breathe," songs eddie almost play alone with a guitar,with Sirens that all the band plays it and no one saw ever live..
You really believe its the placement in the setlist? Cmon man, i know youre a loyal fan but denial is another thing. Speed of sound is played with the band and it stills kills the energy with a double barrel shotgun. I never mentioned the end, but Blaming it on solo eddie seams like a reach to me, its ok to dislike some of their work but still like them, you dont have to worry.
what kind of argument is that?,im not worry at all,all fans are loyal,im no different,
im saying my opinion,just breathe is so boring with the same mood at the same place at setlist,eddie get at encore break alone at all shows,saw it 20 times in the row ..
you never saw sirens at all and you say its a set kiuller?
how come..?and look around,sirens isnt just a song people like..LOVE is the word all use..
the song is the next anthem at pj show along with alive and black...if u go to a show at the next week,you will see it..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It is sad to see the band churn out these bland songs on two consecutive records. I don't know what happened to these guys. Change is inevitable in a band, but that doesn't mean they should get a pass for songs like sirens and just breathe. These songs lack any of the depth or edge of their earlier ballads.
Worst of all is that we now have two records filled with really energy killing songs which are now peppered into their live set-lists. This affects the vibe and energy of the whole live show. It was brutal last tour to sit through those string ensembles playing just breathe and the end for 20 minutes in the middle of a rock and roll concert. Fans are sitting down at pearl jam shows for gods sakes.
I love this band, and their music has been a huge part of my life . Which is why it is so frustrating and sad to see the band devolve so much in terms of their new material. I never thought I would not be excited for a new PJ album to come out , but after hearing sirens that is exactly the case.
See you guys at barclays, its gonna be an 87% awesome show.
i guess all the previous year,you was doing Headbanging at come back,arc,better man,small town,black,release,.Oceans,soon forget,sleigh of hand,all or none,all those yesterday,fatal,hard to imagine,im mine,thin air, and so on..
I have nothing against ballads, it has been a part of pj since the beginning. However, if you have been to a show post backspacer you would know that the effect just breath and speed of sound had on their live shows was truly negative, in a way not seen before. The songs you mention add to the vibe of a pj show, their new ones suck the air out of the room. I have trouble understanding how someone can compare all those yesterdays to just breath.
I really hear no similarity between BS and LB. LB is on a whole other level so far.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I really hear no similarity between BS and LB. LB is on a whole other level so far.
same here..only one song from LB remind me BS ,but cant talk about it
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I wasn't sure if the radio station I listen to at work would play Sirens, given they're a 'Rock' station, but looks like I'm going to be getting it once a day(they have no repeat work/week days) as well as MYM. Have yesterday & today so far anyway.
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PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
I wasn't sure if the radio station I listen to at work would play Sirens, given they're a 'Rock' station, but looks like I'm going to be getting it once a day(they have no repeat work/week days) as well as MYM. Have yesterday 7 today so far anyway.
They've been playing it on my local rock station too, but the reception hasn't been that great. Most listeners seem to think it's boring. Music equivalent of a chick flick. A good chick flick, but still....
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
what kind of argument is that?,im not worry at all,all fans are loyal,im no different,
im saying my opinion,just breathe is so boring with the same mood at the same place at setlist,eddie get at encore break alone at all shows,saw it 20 times in the row ..
you never saw sirens at all and you say its a set kiuller?
how come..?and look around,sirens isnt just a song people like..LOVE is the word all use..
the song is the next anthem at pj show along with alive and black...if u go to a show at the next week,you will see it..
But Dimitris, (I know we disagree on this song), but this has more to do *when* the song is played than the song itself, right? The song in itself is a good acoustic song that can create a moment of introspection during a concert...
Not all songs need to be anthems.
And 20 shows???? Fuck, maybe there lies the problem
I wasn't sure if the radio station I listen to at work would play Sirens, given they're a 'Rock' station, but looks like I'm going to be getting it once a day(they have no repeat work/week days) as well as MYM. Have yesterday 7 today so far anyway.
They've been playing it on my local rock station too, but the reception hasn't been that great. Most listeners seem to think it's boring. Music equivalent of a chick flick. A good chick flick, but still....
I wasn't sure if the radio station I listen to at work would play Sirens, given they're a 'Rock' station, but looks like I'm going to be getting it once a day(they have no repeat work/week days) as well as MYM. Have yesterday 7 today so far anyway.
They've been playing it on my local rock station too, but the reception hasn't been that great. Most listeners seem to think it's boring. Music equivalent of a chick flick. A good chick flick, but still....
Not like Fifty Shades I hope! Hmpf!!!
Jesus, did they make a movie of that?!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
They've been playing it on my local rock station too, but the reception hasn't been that great. Most listeners seem to think it's boring. Music equivalent of a chick flick. A good chick flick, but still....
Not like Fifty Shades I hope! Hmpf!!!
Jesus, did they make a movie of that?!
They are going to. Nah, you thought my nick was connected to that book, that is why mentioned it. For a genocide scholar I am against book burning parties, for Fifty Shades I make an exception however...
They are going to. Nah, you thought my nick was connected to that book, that is why mentioned it. For a genocide scholar I am against book burning parties, for Fifty Shades I make an exception however...
I knew why you mentioned it. It was just a matter of internal word association for me, sorry.
I don't see the harm in 50 Shades of Grey, but I don't get it.... there is plenty of perfectly good free erotica on the internet. Why buy the hardcover and act as though it's risque, I mean really. :fp:
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
what kind of argument is that?,im not worry at all,all fans are loyal,im no different,
im saying my opinion,just breathe is so boring with the same mood at the same place at setlist,eddie get at encore break alone at all shows,saw it 20 times in the row ..
you never saw sirens at all and you say its a set kiuller?
how come..?and look around,sirens isnt just a song people like..LOVE is the word all use..
the song is the next anthem at pj show along with alive and black...if u go to a show at the next week,you will see it..
But Dimitris, (I know we disagree on this song), but this has more to do *when* the song is played than the song itself, right? The song in itself is a good acoustic song that can create a moment of introspection during a concert...
Not all songs need to be anthems.
And 20 shows???? Fuck, maybe there lies the problem
yes,when and how it played
same song,same place on the setlist,played with the same mood..i see eddie walking alone on stage after encore and im like,.
shit..again??
its the main reason i dont want any opening band before pj shows..
they played ther same songs,the same order,the same jokes,the same lines,
at 2009 with Gomez,i fel asleep during their set
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
They are going to. Nah, you thought my nick was connected to that book, that is why mentioned it. For a genocide scholar I am against book burning parties, for Fifty Shades I make an exception however...
I knew why you mentioned it. It was just a matter of internal word association for me, sorry.
I don't see the harm in 50 Shades of Grey, but I don't get it.... there is plenty of perfectly good free erotica on the internet. Why buy the hardcover and act as though it's risque, I mean really. :fp:
Know what you mean. But it is BDSM of course so :shh:...
It is this complete commercialization and this self-proclaimed taboo, that makes me want to throw it on the pile.
50 shades BDSM? Its a typical "virgin meets millionaire and virgin will help him get rid of his inner demons" kind of stories. Yuck. It is porn in a self-mastrubating mental kinda way.
Sorry, really hate the damn book, while I do, of course read other erotic literature..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
what kind of argument is that?,im not worry at all,all fans are loyal,im no different,
im saying my opinion,just breathe is so boring with the same mood at the same place at setlist,eddie get at encore break alone at all shows,saw it 20 times in the row ..
you never saw sirens at all and you say its a set kiuller?
how come..?and look around,sirens isnt just a song people like..LOVE is the word all use..
the song is the next anthem at pj show along with alive and black...if u go to a show at the next week,you will see it..
But Dimitris, (I know we disagree on this song), but this has more to do *when* the song is played than the song itself, right? The song in itself is a good acoustic song that can create a moment of introspection during a concert...
Not all songs need to be anthems.
And 20 shows???? Fuck, maybe there lies the problem
yes,when and how it played
same song,same place on the setlist,played with the same mood..i see eddie walking alone on stage after encore and im like,.
shit..again??
its the main reason i dont want any opening band before pj shows..
they played ther same songs,the same order,the same jokes,the same lines,
at 2009 with Gomez,i fel asleep during their set
Fell asleeep, I am shocked...
But yeah, they should rotate it more. Do Can't Keep or Thumbing acoustically and not only JB. They have some nice acoustic songs out there. Even songs that aren't acoustic on the album, but they can give a good acoustic rendition. I would like them to experiment with this more... Put well-known songs out of their comfort zone.
They are going to. Nah, you thought my nick was connected to that book, that is why mentioned it. For a genocide scholar I am against book burning parties, for Fifty Shades I make an exception however...
I knew why you mentioned it. It was just a matter of internal word association for me, sorry.
I don't see the harm in 50 Shades of Grey, but I don't get it.... there is plenty of perfectly good free erotica on the internet. Why buy the hardcover and act as though it's risque, I mean really. :fp:
Know what you mean. But it is BDSM of course so :shh:...
It is this complete commercialization and this self-proclaimed taboo, that makes me want to throw it on the pile.
50 shades BDSM? Its a typical "virgin meets millionaire and virgin will help him get rid of his inner demons" kind of stories. Yuck. It is porn in a self-mastrubating mental kinda way.
Sorry, really hate the damn book, while I do, of course read other erotic literature..
Completely agree. So good. We are also on board when it comes to our taste in pornographic literature and the sociological response to it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
they played ther same songs,the same order,the same jokes,the same lines,
at 2009 with Gomez,i fel asleep during their set
Fell asleeep, I am shocked...
But yeah, they should rotate it more. Do Can't Keep or Thumbing acoustically and not only JB. They have some nice acoustic songs out there. Even songs that aren't acoustic on the album, but they can give a good acoustic rendition. I would like them to experiment with this more... Put well-known songs out of their comfort zone.
yeah,Gomez is the most boring band i ever saw live
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Know what you mean. But it is BDSM of course so :shh:...
It is this complete commercialization and this self-proclaimed taboo, that makes me want to throw it on the pile.
50 shades BDSM? Its a typical "virgin meets millionaire and virgin will help him get rid of his inner demons" kind of stories. Yuck. It is porn in a self-mastrubating mental kinda way.
Sorry, really hate the damn book, while I do, of course read other erotic literature..
Completely agree. So good. We are also on board when it comes to our taste in pornographic literature and the sociological response to it.
Maybe we should open another thread and call it "pornographic literature and the sociologocical response", curious how well that will bode on the moving train. Will probably be shot to pieces (all pun intended).
they played ther same songs,the same order,the same jokes,the same lines,
at 2009 with Gomez,i fel asleep during their set
Fell asleeep, I am shocked...
But yeah, they should rotate it more. Do Can't Keep or Thumbing acoustically and not only JB. They have some nice acoustic songs out there. Even songs that aren't acoustic on the album, but they can give a good acoustic rendition. I would like them to experiment with this more... Put well-known songs out of their comfort zone.
yeah,Gomez is the most boring band i ever saw live
It wasn't the best act. I can't remember them. And I was awake... I think...
cant stop listening, Ed's falsettos and message just pulls you in. drums guitars keys put together perfect. I study your face and the fear goes away!!!! the end of the video rare moment when all five are on the mic harmonizing...epic...Goosebumps...hope they open with this in NYC and Philly.
Such a deep song, I wonder who he's afraid of losing. I love it!
love the way you put it...
and your avatar kick ass!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
its so powerfull..that cant hold it back..any wall you put in front you...the song will get you in the end..
cos life will teach you the lesson..It’s a fragile thing, this life we lead..
maybe not today..not tomorrow...not next month...but you will learn the lesson...
cos Sirens.... will not stop ....
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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I truly disagree on this one. I saw the emotions of the crowd during Come Back or Jusst Breathe. I was standing in Nijmegen and this whole crowd had an emotional outpour on Just Breathe. Just because its an acoustic song, does not mean it is a setlist killer. Sometimes I have trouble with Push Me Pull Me, on the other hand, I like the wackiness of it.
But Just Breathe/ The end are by any standards good songs, but should maybe get less rotated.
and exactly i have trouble to understand how someone compare "the end and just breathe," songs eddie almost play alone with a guitar,with Sirens that all the band plays it and no one saw ever live..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
You really believe its the placement in the setlist? Cmon man, i know youre a loyal fan but denial is another thing. Speed of sound is played with the band and it stills kills the energy with a double barrel shotgun. I never mentioned the end, but Blaming it on solo eddie seams like a reach to me, its ok to dislike some of their work but still like them, you dont have to worry.
im saying my opinion,just breathe is so boring with the same mood at the same place at setlist,eddie get at encore break alone at all shows,saw it 20 times in the row ..
you never saw sirens at all and you say its a set kiuller?
how come..?and look around,sirens isnt just a song people like..LOVE is the word all use..
the song is the next anthem at pj show along with alive and black...if u go to a show at the next week,you will see it..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
But Dimitris, (I know we disagree on this song), but this has more to do *when* the song is played than the song itself, right? The song in itself is a good acoustic song that can create a moment of introspection during a concert...
Not all songs need to be anthems.
And 20 shows???? Fuck, maybe there lies the problem
Not like Fifty Shades I hope! Hmpf!!!
They are going to. Nah, you thought my nick was connected to that book, that is why mentioned it. For a genocide scholar I am against book burning parties, for Fifty Shades I make an exception however...
I don't see the harm in 50 Shades of Grey, but I don't get it.... there is plenty of perfectly good free erotica on the internet. Why buy the hardcover and act as though it's risque, I mean really. :fp:
same song,same place on the setlist,played with the same mood..i see eddie walking alone on stage after encore and im like,.
shit..again??
its the main reason i dont want any opening band before pj shows..
they played ther same songs,the same order,the same jokes,the same lines,
at 2009 with Gomez,i fel asleep during their set
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It is this complete commercialization and this self-proclaimed taboo, that makes me want to throw it on the pile.
50 shades BDSM? Its a typical "virgin meets millionaire and virgin will help him get rid of his inner demons" kind of stories. Yuck. It is porn in a self-mastrubating mental kinda way.
Sorry, really hate the damn book, while I do, of course read other erotic literature..
i love you both
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Fell asleeep, I am shocked...
But yeah, they should rotate it more. Do Can't Keep or Thumbing acoustically and not only JB. They have some nice acoustic songs out there. Even songs that aren't acoustic on the album, but they can give a good acoustic rendition. I would like them to experiment with this more... Put well-known songs out of their comfort zone.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It wasn't the best act. I can't remember them. And I was awake... I think...
and your avatar kick ass!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The loved ones he can count on both hands of course
But I rather have the impression that he's afraid of going himself and leaving them behind than the other way round.
Anyway it is a truly beautiful song
every day....
its so powerfull..that cant hold it back..any wall you put in front you...the song will get you in the end..
cos life will teach you the lesson..It’s a fragile thing, this life we lead..
maybe not today..not tomorrow...not next month...but you will learn the lesson...
cos Sirens.... will not stop ....
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Hahaha! Don't mess with Dimi or he will sick the Sirens on you!