"Sirens" Single + Video

IamTom

I've tried. Honestly I've really tried to like this. I just can't. I'm sure I'll try again tonight but can't see the result being any different.

I've not liked PJ songs before and that's ok.

But this I just think is awful. If it was any other band I'd never have listened as many times or tried to like it.

It seems to me like a close relation of Of The Earth insomuch as,to me, it tries to be something rather than being something.

To me the music is awful and the lyrics are even worse. I've never felt a PJ some trying so hard to be something. Lyrics...can't be by Ed because Ed writes,not forces lyrics and this feels so forced. Kinda like he had a really bad fight with his wife and wanted to prove he'll be better,he loves her by writing a song for her. But comes across like a teenager trying to say the right thing to me.

I'd almost rather hear Last Kiss :-(

And 'if you'd choose to stay I'd wait'? What? Wait for what? Weren't you waiting for her and she's staying so....?

A split second reminds me of November Rain and then I think wow, there is a great song.

Massively disappointed.

And I hope I change my mind as its going to get a lot of live play.

And it is catchy because it gets in my head.



Give me a Greek myth any day.

pjfan021

If people like it that's fine with me...I personally think it's the worst song they've written. The "live" version in the video is better than the recording I heard, but the song is just too generic and kinda sappy for my test. I like comeback, parting ways, etc... But this one just has too much of a pop feel I can't get around. It's a shame too cause eddies voice does sound great on it. I'm not going to stop listening to them, still will buy the record, just think I found my new bathroom break song

Kimmiebyrom

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Kim....some people here the last time they said something good for the band or for any other human being was B.C. period...dont waste your time...

You couldn't be more right. I'm outta here! Gonna go to where the love resides.

polaris_x

IamTom wrote:

I've tried. Honestly I've really tried to like this. I just can't. I'm sure I'll try again tonight but can't see the result being any different.

you're trying too hard ... it doesn't resonate with you in any way ... it's ok ... trying to force yourself to like it is probably what is creating the resentment so many people are expressing ...

it's art ... it's not supposed to appeal to everyone ... simple as that ... nothing wrong ... spend your energy elsewhere ...

Dr. Delight

There are just as many people on these boards that tell the people who dislike the song that they are wrong as vice/versa.

Hell I'll go far as to say the majority of people who adore this song get overly defensive about any criticism floated towards this song.

norm

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I cant comprehend why people like you cant let people enjoy the damned song and accept that. :?

narcissism, arrogance and an overwhelming case of self righteousness

polaris_x

Dr. Delight wrote:

There are just as many people on these boards that tell the people who dislike the song that they are wrong as vice/versa.

Hell I'll go far as to say the majority of people who adore this song get overly defensive about any criticism floated towards this song.

well ... those people would be wrong as well ...

i think if you read this thread ... people in general are open to criticisms and opinions on the song ... it's when you start telling people that they are delusional to like the song where it gets carried away ...

shortstack

why does it have to be so gosh darn long? it could have easily been cut in half. ed needed to go back in the studio after everyone went home and roughed up the edges or something.
and that video....yikes. how unflattering, the lighting makes ed look like he has alcoholic nose. :oops:

but at least ed's voice sounds good.

dimitrispearljam

norm wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I cant comprehend why people like you cant let people enjoy the damned song and accept that. :?

narcissism, arrogance and an overwhelming case of self righteousness

Can u please dont let a thread to go over 32 pages the next time before u post the right fuckin thing??
Thank u

norm

dimitrispearljam wrote:

norm wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I cant comprehend why people like you cant let people enjoy the damned song and accept that. :?

narcissism, arrogance and an overwhelming case of self righteousness

Can u please dont let a thread to go over 32 pages the next time before u post the right fuckin thing??
Thank u

i've been trying to keep out of it...but i'm bored :P

bootlegger10

norm wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I cant comprehend why people like you cant let people enjoy the damned song and accept that. :?

narcissism, arrogance and an overwhelming case of self righteousness

So are you saying if you hear a new song from your favorite band after 4 years, you can only talk about it if you like it? Where else are you supposed to go if you dislike a song? If not the PJ message board, where?

Was it okay for Eddie in front of 20,000 people to call out Good Charlotte and include it on a bootleg? Has anyone here said anything worse than that comment?

It is well known that Ed doesn't edit as much anymore as he said so in PJ20. Some are going to like that because they like everything Ed does or they genuinely like the music. Others aren't going to like it. Thankfully message boards were created so that we can discuss with other fans.


I'll say some nice things:
I Got Id is amazing
I'll never forget listening to Ten over and over and over
I don't think there is a PJ song or cover I don't love before Binaural
I picked up a guitar for the first time because of Stone Gossard's riffs
Into the Wild is a masterpiece and Ed's solo shows are amazing
The 2012 Euro tour was probably my favorite run of shows I've seen (if not 2011 in Canada)
Low Light should be required listening in grade school for all to hear

PJ_Soul

polaris_x wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

All opinions about this song should just be respected IMO. If someone says they love it and are swollen up with emotion when they hear it, I am going to believe them. They certainly are enjoying their reaction to the song more than I am, so good for them. Those who hate this song and think it is just absolute garbage should be respected too. They understand the band just as well as anyone else. I am interested to see how this song holds up after the surprising amount of hype has died down. Curious to see what position it settles into with the fans over time.

thing is tho ... i'm not sure the purpose of calling any art garbage or horrible ... it's subjective ... to each their own ...

It has the same purpose as calling it beautiful or amazing. They are simply expressing what they think of the song. Both opinions are equally valid. Just because a reaction or opinion is negative it doesn't make it any less purposeful or valid. Beautiful or garbage (or somewhere in between) - it is all equally subjective. So yes, to each their own. There is disrespect for others opinions on both sides here.

PJ_Soul

Dr. Delight wrote:

There are just as many people on these boards that tell the people who dislike the song that they are wrong as vice/versa.

Hell I'll go far as to say the majority of people who adore this song get overly defensive about any criticism floated towards this song.

Agreed.

JonnyPistachio

bootlegger10 wrote:

norm wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I cant comprehend why people like you cant let people enjoy the damned song and accept that. :?

narcissism, arrogance and an overwhelming case of self righteousness

So are you saying if you hear a new song from your favorite band after 4 years, you can only talk about it if you like it? Where else are you supposed to go if you dislike a song? If not the PJ message board, where?

Was it okay for Eddie in front of 20,000 people to call out Good Charlotte and include it on a bootleg?

I'll say some nice things:
I Got Id is amazing
I'll never forget listening to Ten over and over and over
I don't think there is a PJ song or cover I don't love before Binaural
I picked up a guitar for the first time because of Stone Gossard's riffs
Into the Wild is a masterpiece and Ed's solo shows are amazing
The 2012 Euro tour was probably my favorite run of shows I've seen (if not 2011 in Canada)
Low Light should be required listening in grade school for all to hear

The beginning of the conversation was not in the quotes, but to sum it up, another poster said that if you enjoy the song, you dont really enjoy the song, you only like it because you are blindly following PJ and think they can do no wrong....basically, If you like the song, you actually hate the song.

Its OK to say you hate the song, but just dont tell others how to feel...thats what we were talking about.

grazman

IamTom wrote:

I'd almost rather hear Last Kiss :-(

Tom....seriously..... I mean....seriously.

shortstack

Kelly Leak wrote:

dimitrispearljam,

You are obviously a huge fan of the band. People absolutely love you on here. ...the ever-growing set of positive vibes you try to put out

it's called an agenda

Kat

Was closed for review.

Remember that old cliché, "Don't make me come in there?" Everyone's parents said it. Now I'm saying it...and don't argue like this again (posts removed) or there will be some very long breaks taken.

dimitrispearljam

grazman wrote:

IamTom wrote:

I'd almost rather hear Last Kiss :-(

Tom....seriously..... I mean....seriously.

E.K

Kat wrote:

Was closed for review.

Remember that old cliché, "Don't make me come in there?" Everyone's parents said it. Now I'm saying it...and don't argue like this again (posts removed) or there will be some very long breaks taken.

Hey everyone. You've been told!

brianlux

It would be interesting to take a poll on this song-- love it/like it/neutral/don't like it-would rather hear "Last Kiss"/strongly dislike it. Anyone?