Navy Yard Shooting

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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    facepollution wrote:
    Depends how strict, doesn't it? As strict as they are here in the UK, probably - access would be greatly reduced, maybe stabbings would go up though....

    I think stricter gun control would play a part in reducing these types of crime - the saying you can't eat an elephant in one bite comes to mind. This issue needs tackling from many angles, gun control being just one of them.

    like i said before - i am in favour for stricter gun laws ... and deep down - i hope you are right ... but i don't see how this would change the fact that this person felt so much anger that he would do something like this ... once there - and the desire to kill - they will find a way to inflict the necessary damage ...
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    people are claiming outrage right now and asking for solutions, but come thursday when there is another football game everyone will forget about this.

    such is the case with all mass shootings.

    all of em...

    For many in the US the solution will be more metal detectors along with MORE access to more guns.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    polaris_x wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    There are plenty of places in the world were there has been an extreme history of war (both longer AND more recent histories) where people don't now go on shooting rampages on a fairly regular basis.

    such as?
    France, Spain, Russia, Africa, China....
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    polaris_x wrote:
    like i said before - i am in favour for stricter gun laws ... and deep down - i hope you are right ... but i don't see how this would change the fact that this person felt so much anger that he would do something like this ... once there - and the desire to kill - they will find a way to inflict the necessary damage ...

    Like I said before though, perhaps that anger would have been manifested in another way, or more concentrated on a specific individual rather than being able to take out this many people.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i say, if you are gonna go bananas, blow your own fucking head off. don't take a dozen people with you before you do it.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    just another day in America, it seems.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,814
    Let's just keep this thread as the one for all mass shooting just edit the name of place & how many dead , instead of starting anew one everytime one of these massacres happen again cause we all know it will keep happening again & again & again & again & again & again & again ......for ever this will never stop
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    chadwick wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    a little more than violence & anger. mentally unstable i'd say as well as living in some kind of skewed fantasy. a twisted mind & soul come undone

    someone need not be angry to committ murders, mass shootings & whatnot. they are nutjobs

    why don't mentally unstable people in peaceful countries act out like this? ... you say they are nutjobs and question why they would want to kill people ... yet, i wonder the same for people who think it's ok to put a pervert in the hospital ... they are obviously not the same level of action but at the heart of it - it's still the same ... violence is not a solution ...

    please no need to post links to mass murders in other countries ... sure, they happen but clearly not at the absurd rate it does in the US ...

    please & thank you for letting me know what i was not even thinking of doing.

    Chadwick has no time for that, he's off for a swim! :D
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    unsung wrote:
    3...2...1...shooter used "AR15 style assault weapon with high capacity 'clips' and was dressed in all black".


    Actually on edit that would be impossible since DC has "these weapons of war" banned from common-folk peasant ownership.

    You know, the best and most heartwarming part of this situation is that the armed guards were able to take this lunatic out before he went and killed 12 innocent people. Thank god for guns or this potential tragedy could have been really ugly.

    Oh, wait. What's that? There were armed guards there and one may be injured/dead. Oops
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    DC news is reporting that this guy started with a shotgun and ended up rearming with guns from guards.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Looks like he got weapons from the inside


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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    facepollution wrote:
    Perhaps, but then we've had a pretty bloody history here in the UK too(!) and we don't suffere these events to anywhere near the same extent.

    i don't think you've had a civil war like they did ... 650,000 dead ...

    Europe did host a good hunk of WW2 with far more death than the US civil war ... So how come every time a European goes bonkers he doesn't take a shit load off people with him? Maybe because he can't just run to their local gum store and buy a weapon ... Once just my opinion.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    I don't think it's about how much bloodshed a country has had in its past.....it's about how that country's culture identifies with it. I mean, every war the Americans have been a part of (including the one with just them) is a major talking point of a massive percentage of Americans. It's like they are PROUD of being a violent society, but they don't see it as violent, they see it as heroic, which, to be honest, at many point in its history, it was. But that has all changed since Vietnam.

    Now it's just the bully that sees itself as the hero and wonders why everyone calls it a bully.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    unsung wrote:
    DC news is reporting that this guy started with a shotgun and ended up rearming with guns from guards.
    I had read that too. Interesting how "some people" tend to think they know everything about a situation and start touting "we gotta ban everything" before a situation has even been investigated. I guess we should now ban all shotguns, right? I wonder if any lives were saved in this situation because of preparedness? How is that measured?
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Those that feel less guns mean less crime, would you put a sign in front of your home stating.... this is a
    "Gun Free Home"?
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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    PJPOWER wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    DC news is reporting that this guy started with a shotgun and ended up rearming with guns from guards.
    I had read that too. Interesting how "some people" tend to think they know everything about a situation and start touting "we gotta ban everything" before a situation has even been investigated. I guess we should now ban all shotguns, right? I wonder if any lives were saved in this situation because of preparedness? How is that measured?


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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    PJPOWER wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    DC news is reporting that this guy started with a shotgun and ended up rearming with guns from guards.
    I had read that too. Interesting how "some people" tend to think they know everything about a situation and start touting "we gotta ban everything" before a situation has even been investigated. I guess we should now ban all shotguns, right? I wonder if any lives were saved in this situation because of preparedness? How is that measured?
    I don't know if I have ever seen many people calling for shotguns to be banned. But I think that if what they are saying happened it's a very solid argument against those who say security guards at various places who aren't armed (like at schools) should be armed. Clearly this horrible incident should show people how dangerous that can be.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    PJPOWER wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    DC news is reporting that this guy started with a shotgun and ended up rearming with guns from guards.
    I had read that too. Interesting how "some people" tend to think they know everything about a situation and start touting "we gotta ban everything" before a situation has even been investigated. I guess we should now ban all shotguns, right? I wonder if any lives were saved in this situation because of preparedness? How is that measured?
    I don't know if I have ever seen many people calling for shotguns to be banned. But I think that if what they are saying happened it's a very solid argument against those who say security guards at various places who aren't armed (like at schools) should be armed. Clearly this horrible incident should show people how dangerous that can be.
    Once again, I don't think anything in this situation is all that "clear" yet. And I have seen plenty around here calling for all guns, including shotguns, to be banned...wait for it, they're sure to chime in soon ;)
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    aerial wrote:
    Those that feel less guns mean less crime, would you put a sign in front of your home stating.... this is a
    "Gun Free Home"?

    this is easily one of the dumbest things I've read on here in quite some time.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Those that feel less guns mean less crime, would you put a sign in front of your home stating.... this is a
    "Gun Free Home"?

    this is easily one of the dumbest things I've read on here in quite some time.
    Evidently you haven't read any recent quotes from Obama...I degress :) I'm out, goodnight jammers, stay safe!

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