Navy Yard Shooting

dimitrispearljam
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edited October 2013 in A Moving Train
http://liveblog.wtop.com/Event/Navy_Yard_Shooting

12 victims..8 confirmed dead.. :(
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  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    edited September 2013
    I hear that there might be two shooters. Crazy.

    But I heard there are only 4 dead, not 8.

    Update: Now I see at least 6 dead.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Mayor's press conference about to start.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Per PD, potentially two other shooters still on the loose. We learned in Boston that these reports are often incorrect but that is what is being reported.
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  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    JimmyV wrote:
    Per PD, potentially two other shooters still on the loose. We learned in Boston that these reports are often incorrect but that is what is being reported.

    Just heard that one of the possible remaining suspects is white and the other is african-american.
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  • unsung
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    3...2...1...shooter used "AR15 style assault weapon with high capacity 'clips' and was dressed in all black".


    Actually on edit that would be impossible since DC has "these weapons of war" banned from common-folk peasant ownership.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,455
    should have armed everyone in the building...

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  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    unsung wrote:
    3...2...1...shooter used "AR15 style assault weapon with high capacity 'clips' and was dressed in all black".


    Actually on edit that would be impossible since DC has "these weapons of war" banned from common-folk peasant ownership.

    Well, they are weapons of war. No denying that.

    And the current laws suck to where these guns can still be bought in one way or another. Most likely they were bought illegally, and that shows that there is a lot more to be done to end these illegal purchases.
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    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    And we know no facts yet, they can't even figure out how many shooters there are or if they are still active. Yet, the government has released the information that this has no terrorist ties.

    Things that make you go hmmm.
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    How horrible!
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    WTOP local DC news radio, reported the shooter was a 50 year old retired navy chief petty officer. They mentioned the name but I cannot remember it.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    WTOP local DC news radio, reported the shooter was a 50 year old retired navy chief petty officer. They mentioned the name but I cannot remember it.

    I believe that report has since been retracted.
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  • hedonist
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    unsung wrote:
    And we know no facts yet, they can't even figure out how many shooters there are or if they are still active. Yet, the government has released the information that this has no terrorist ties.

    Things that make you go hmmm.
    I haven't seen the non-terrorist thing, but it did strike me as strange that the President has already commented with so little information released thus far.

    Regardless, very sad for those whose lives were lost, and their families.
  • unsung
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    http://www.google.com/gwt/x?u=http://da ... oCg&wsc=bf

    Subject not in custody... No known connections to terrorism.
  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    JimmyV wrote:
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    WTOP local DC news radio, reported the shooter was a 50 year old retired navy chief petty officer. They mentioned the name but I cannot remember it.

    I believe that report has since been retracted.

    Yes it has sorry
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,775
    Guitar92player wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    3...2...1...shooter used "AR15 style assault weapon with high capacity 'clips' and was dressed in all black".


    Actually on edit that would be impossible since DC has "these weapons of war" banned from common-folk peasant ownership.

    Well, they are weapons of war. No denying that.

    And the current laws suck to where these guns can still be bought in one way or another. Most likely they were bought illegally, and that shows that there is a lot more to be done to end these illegal purchases.
    Oh god, here we go again, making all kinds of completely unfounded assumptions and starting a debate when there is still nothing whatsoever to base any of your arguments on. :roll:
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    this is the result of someone choosing violence as his solution to his problem ... someone who let his anger and hate drive his decision ...

    the gun law debate is a distraction from what ultimately is the issue ... do we choose violence as our means of fixing our problems or not ... a peaceful society can have no gun laws whatsoever and we wouldn't see this stuff ...
  • facepollution
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    polaris_x wrote:
    this is the result of someone choosing violence as his solution to his problem ... someone who let his anger and hate drive his decision ...

    the gun law debate is a distraction from what ultimately is the issue ... do we choose violence as our means of fixing our problems or not ... a peaceful society can have no gun laws whatsoever and we wouldn't see this stuff ...

    I understand the point you are making, but I think the two issues are inextricably linked - the sheer availability of guns must play some role. Perhaps in a country where guns were far more difficult to obtain, that anger and hate would be manifested in a different way - not necessarily in a positive way, but maybe something that doesn't make it so easy to kill multiple people in such a short space of time.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    ....Bill Cosby is correct.

    "very strong statistical link between fatherlessness and gun homicides"
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    polaris_x wrote:
    this is the result of someone choosing violence as his solution to his problem ... someone who let his anger and hate drive his decision ...
    the gun law debate is a distraction from what ultimately is the issue ... do we choose violence as our means of fixing our problems or not ... a peaceful society can have no gun laws whatsoever and we wouldn't see this stuff ...
    a little more than violence & anger. mentally unstable i'd say as well as living in some kind of skewed fantasy. a twisted mind & soul come undone

    someone need not be angry to committ murders, mass shootings & whatnot. they are nutjobs
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    facepollution wrote:
    I understand the point you are making, but I think the two issues are inextricably linked - the sheer availability of guns must play some role. Perhaps in a country where guns were far more difficult to obtain, that anger and hate would be manifested in a different way - not necessarily in a positive way, but maybe something that doesn't make it so easy to kill multiple people in such a short space of time.

    i am in favour of gun laws ... i think the NRA is made up of people who are completely out of touch ... but the national debate on guns will not address these events ... like so many other issues - they have been politicized to the point that ultimately the points being argued have very little relevance ...

    you can have all the laws you want but it wouldn't have changed what happened today ... nor so many other tragedies ...

    when your first response to perceived injustice is violence ... this is the result ...

    look at 9/11 ... immediate after ... people wanted blood ... and they got blood ... and guess what - no matter how many "top level" al qaeda people gets killed in drone strikes ... there are more and more "terrorists" willing to do harm to american interests ... instead of asking ourselves what would possess people to fly a plane into an office building - we did what we always do ... kill ... and respond in kind ... well, the circle will just keep looping ... and the ultimate tragedy in all of that - is there are people who profit off that and that makes them happy ...

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