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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    shecky said:

    You have to want to go to Altoona.  There is no accident ending up there, lol.
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,077

    Pennsylvania police have detained a man they view as a "person of interest" and that they suspect is the killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

    A NYPD police source confirmed Altoona, Pennsylvania, police today took in for questioning a man located at a McDonald's after a local citizen notified police.

    The man was found sitting in the restaurant. He was found to have a gun similar to the type believed to be used in the murder of Thompson.

    The unidentified man was found to have had fake ID on him.

    A New York police source says he appears to be the suspect, noting strong similarity to eyebrows of the man captured in surveillance video.

    © 2024 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

    *I'm amazed the killer would still be packing that cannon, unless he discarded the suppressor.

  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,077
    edited December 9

    *UPDATES
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    shecky said:

    Pennsylvania police have detained a man they view as a "person of interest" and that they suspect is the killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

    A NYPD police source confirmed Altoona, Pennsylvania, police today took in for questioning a man located at a McDonald's after a local citizen notified police.

    The man was found sitting in the restaurant. He was found to have a gun similar to the type believed to be used in the murder of Thompson.

    The unidentified man was found to have had fake ID on him.

    A New York police source says he appears to be the suspect, noting strong similarity to eyebrows of the man captured in surveillance video.

    © 2024 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

    *I'm amazed the killer would still be packing that cannon, unless he discarded the suppressor.

    Newsmax? This answers some questions. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    Police found a 2 page letter on the guy railing against the healthcare industry and stating violence is the answer....
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,077

    ANOTHER UPDATE, PER NEWSMAX.

    The man, who is believed to be identified as Luigi Mangione, was found to have had fake IDs on him, sources told Newsmax, and various reports say the silencer and multiple fake IDs were all found.

    LinkedIn profile of a man by that name says Mangione is a data engineer for TrueCar, but this is unverified information not confirmed by police.

    A New York police source says he appears to be the suspect, noting strong similarity to eyebrows of the man captured in surveillance video.

    Also, the man was found with a manifesto that criticized healthcare companies for putting profits above care, The New York Times reported Monday, citing a senior law enforcement official.

    One of the cards matched the name used by the suspected gunman to check into a hostel in Manhattan before the shooting.

  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,077

  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,761
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Admittedly, I'm a bit disturbed at how much celebrating I saw about a murder. I don't expect people to mourn or do much more than go about their day. I even accept some "well, insurance companies deny people into their graves" type of comments. But the glee was astonishing to me.

    Really? I'm completely unsurprised and totally understand it. It is a perfect reflection of how fucked up and evil the American healthcare insurance system really is. It's a human rights crime. This reaction from the public with this killing makes perfect sense IMO.

    I wonder what the NDP would say to that, are they satisfied with available care in Canada? Access to a GP? ER wait times? Specialist wait times?

    Hey Google, what country has the longest wait times for healthcare?

    The American insurance system has its challenges, but overall The majority of Americans have access to the best healthcare - which country is more responsible than the United States in developing new procedures, new treatments, and new medicine?

    I get absolutely fantastic healthcare in Canada, and frankly, i've personally never had to wait any length of time for any healthcare. Of course, it is far from perfect, and we really need more GPs (although there are viable alternatives), but nobody is refused medical treatment that they need, nobody goes broke because of medical needs, everybody has rapid access to essential, life saving medical treatment, and there isn't a massive divide between the care that the rich get and the care that they poor get. This "wait time" defense wheb the disgusting American healthcare system is dicussed makes zero sense to me, because there is no defense for a system that puts profit above health.

    A lot of the advances the world enjoys is because of the American Health Care system. Without it, things like cancer would be killing more people. And when I'm citing waiting times I'm referring to objective statistics, and of course from watching the national on CBC.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,761
    edited December 9
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Admittedly, I'm a bit disturbed at how much celebrating I saw about a murder. I don't expect people to mourn or do much more than go about their day. I even accept some "well, insurance companies deny people into their graves" type of comments. But the glee was astonishing to me.

    Really? I'm completely unsurprised and totally understand it. It is a perfect reflection of how fucked up and evil the American healthcare insurance system really is. It's a human rights crime. This reaction from the public with this killing makes perfect sense IMO.

    I wonder what the NDP would say to that, are they satisfied with available care in Canada? Access to a GP? ER wait times? Specialist wait times?

    Hey Google, what country has the longest wait times for healthcare?

    The American insurance system has its challenges, but overall The majority of Americans have access to the best healthcare - which country is more responsible than the United States in developing new procedures, new treatments, and new medicine?

    I get absolutely fantastic healthcare in Canada, and frankly, i've personally never had to wait any length of time for any healthcare. Of course, it is far from perfect, and we really need more GPs (although there are viable alternatives), but nobody is refused medical treatment that they need, nobody goes broke because of medical needs, everybody has rapid access to essential, life saving medical treatment, and there isn't a massive divide between the care that the rich get and the care that they poor get. This "wait time" defense wheb the disgusting American healthcare system is dicussed makes zero sense to me, because there is no defense for a system that puts profit above health.
    The wait time is always what the ignorant Amerikkkans use as an insult over the Canadian system. But...we have wait times that are equal to or as bad as anything I've heard from Canadians. 

    Yep. I'm ignorant , oh, and a member of the kkk. Nice catch 


    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/comparing-performance-of-universal-health-care-countries-2024


  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    edited December 9
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Admittedly, I'm a bit disturbed at how much celebrating I saw about a murder. I don't expect people to mourn or do much more than go about their day. I even accept some "well, insurance companies deny people into their graves" type of comments. But the glee was astonishing to me.

    Really? I'm completely unsurprised and totally understand it. It is a perfect reflection of how fucked up and evil the American healthcare insurance system really is. It's a human rights crime. This reaction from the public with this killing makes perfect sense IMO.

    I wonder what the NDP would say to that, are they satisfied with available care in Canada? Access to a GP? ER wait times? Specialist wait times?

    Hey Google, what country has the longest wait times for healthcare?

    The American insurance system has its challenges, but overall The majority of Americans have access to the best healthcare - which country is more responsible than the United States in developing new procedures, new treatments, and new medicine?

    I get absolutely fantastic healthcare in Canada, and frankly, i've personally never had to wait any length of time for any healthcare. Of course, it is far from perfect, and we really need more GPs (although there are viable alternatives), but nobody is refused medical treatment that they need, nobody goes broke because of medical needs, everybody has rapid access to essential, life saving medical treatment, and there isn't a massive divide between the care that the rich get and the care that they poor get. This "wait time" defense wheb the disgusting American healthcare system is dicussed makes zero sense to me, because there is no defense for a system that puts profit above health.
    The wait time is always what the ignorant Amerikkkans use as an insult over the Canadian system. But...we have wait times that are equal to or as bad as anything I've heard from Canadians. 

    Yep. I'm ignorant , oh, and a member of the kkk. Nice catch 


    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/comparing-performance-of-universal-health-care-countries-2024


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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    shecky said:

    Over/under for the number of hours until you blame the left and/or Soros? 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    have the "illegal immigrant" theories started yet?
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    Crazy...sounds like they've got him

    Customers at a McDonald's saw him and thought he might be the dude and called police.
    Thats a $50,000 phone call right there. Nice little Christmas bonus. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    That’s like 6 values meals!!
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,360
    anti-social media saying folks are giving 1 star reviews to that location behind this....
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    mickeyrat said:
    anti-social media saying folks are giving 1 star reviews to that location behind this....
    1 star, must be Nazis...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    to be fair it was getting one star reviews prior to today lol
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    edited December 9
    Luigi had a lot going for him. Now he's going to die in prison. That's a huge sacrifice.
    Post edited by OnWis97 on
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,761
    OnWis97 said:
    Luigi had a lot going for him. Now he's going to die in prison. That's a huge sacrifice.


    Sounds like he was a spinal fusion patient dealing with chronic pain and surgery delays. Still doesn't excuse acts of violence . 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    He’ll get healthcare there tho
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    mickeyrat said:
    anti-social media saying folks are giving 1 star reviews to that location behind this....
    Is the ice cream machine working? If not, then it’s deserved.

  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    I’ll send him a Christmas card when my premiums go down.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    He could probably run for president from prison once he's old enough and win since so many people seem to be ok with what he did. Plus he'll be a felon. Seems like the path we're on for candidates, at least Republicans. They'll be clamoring after him claiming he fixed Healthcare and did what Trump only said he could, shoot someone (near 5th Avenue albeit) and not lose any support. A man of the people and fighting for the little guy. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,360
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    anti-social media saying folks are giving 1 star reviews to that location behind this....
    Is the ice cream machine working? If not, then it’s deserved.

    assume photoshop but hilarious nonetheless


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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,320
    It's McDonalds Road Kill.  Aren't they all 1 star?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677


    If you have ever played Among Us you know how stupid this is...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    I've never heard of that game; nevertheless I don't see how it's ironic that the man who did this played this game.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,360
    wonder if its true.... dont these things usually require conviction?

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,360
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,780
    Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.



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