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tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnv3dnm64vlo

Yeah I just heard that they think it was a targeted attack. Crazy.

lol ya think?  Dude was assassinated.  6am in the morning.  Shot in the chest.  That ain't no robbery gone wrong.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnv3dnm64vlo

Yeah I just heard that they think it was a targeted attack. Crazy.

lol ya think?  Dude was assassinated.  6am in the morning.  Shot in the chest.  That ain't no robbery gone wrong.

well...people are killed at all times of the day...sometimes a robbery sometimes not

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnv3dnm64vlo

Yeah I just heard that they think it was a targeted attack. Crazy.

lol ya think?  Dude was assassinated.  6am in the morning.  Shot in the chest.  That ain't no robbery gone wrong.

well...people are killed at all times of the day...sometimes a robbery sometimes not

Someone waited for him to specifically walk out... Then shot him.  Then fled without taking anything.

I'll go with NOT for $500 Alex.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnv3dnm64vlo

Yeah I just heard that they think it was a targeted attack. Crazy.

lol ya think?  Dude was assassinated.  6am in the morning.  Shot in the chest.  That ain't no robbery gone wrong.

well...people are killed at all times of the day...sometimes a robbery sometimes not

Someone waited for him to specifically walk out... Then shot him.  Then fled without taking anything.

I'll go with NOT for $500 Alex.

yeah I didn't have the details...I just stated that I "heard" it was a targeted attack. If you want to argue over than keep going. I don't see the need.

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnv3dnm64vlo

Yeah I just heard that they think it was a targeted attack. Crazy.

lol ya think?  Dude was assassinated.  6am in the morning.  Shot in the chest.  That ain't no robbery gone wrong.

well...people are killed at all times of the day...sometimes a robbery sometimes not

Someone waited for him to specifically walk out... Then shot him.  Then fled without taking anything.

I'll go with NOT for $500 Alex.

yeah I didn't have the details...I just stated that I "heard" it was a targeted attack. If you want to argue over than keep going. I don't see the need.

sorry my bad...

mace1229

Just posting my frustration with healthcare.
My wife's doctor thinks she may have an uncommon disorder that amplifies her arthritis more. Closest specialist is almost 3 hours away. It took a few weeks for the referral to go through. She heard back last night.....next available appointment is January 2026! Yes, 2026.
I understand it's a specialist and there's just limited doctors, but over a year? Come on. 

shecky

mace1229 said:

Just posting my frustration with healthcare.
My wife's doctor thinks she may have an uncommon disorder that amplifies her arthritis more. Closest specialist is almost 3 hours away. It took a few weeks for the referral to go through. She heard back last night.....next available appointment is January 2026! Yes, 2026.
I understand it's a specialist and there's just limited doctors, but over a year? Come on. 

I'd recommend making the appointment, then seek out a local second, or even third, opinion. 

mickeyrat

tempo_n_groove said:

Wasn't sure where to put this but the CEO of United Healthcare was assassinated this morning.  He was doing insider selling of stocks.  Not sure what else will come of this?

 link to the insider trading?

mace1229

shecky said:

mace1229 said:

Just posting my frustration with healthcare.
My wife's doctor thinks she may have an uncommon disorder that amplifies her arthritis more. Closest specialist is almost 3 hours away. It took a few weeks for the referral to go through. She heard back last night.....next available appointment is January 2026! Yes, 2026.
I understand it's a specialist and there's just limited doctors, but over a year? Come on. 

I'd recommend making the appointment, then seek out a local second, or even third, opinion. 

My wife is looking at other doctors, but the closest specialist is 3 hours away. Which is why he's so backed up. So a local doctor isn't an option. 

shecky

mace1229 said:

shecky said:

mace1229 said:

Just posting my frustration with healthcare.
My wife's doctor thinks she may have an uncommon disorder that amplifies her arthritis more. Closest specialist is almost 3 hours away. It took a few weeks for the referral to go through. She heard back last night.....next available appointment is January 2026! Yes, 2026.
I understand it's a specialist and there's just limited doctors, but over a year? Come on. 

I'd recommend making the appointment, then seek out a local second, or even third, opinion. 

My wife is looking at other doctors, but the closest specialist is 3 hours away. Which is why he's so backed up. So a local doctor isn't an option. 

I meant going to a different local general practitioner - just a regular doctor. The terms you used "she may have" and "uncommon disorder" suggests to me that perhaps another regular doctor may have seen this condition before. Worth a try, seeing as she has to wait a year to see the specialist anyway. 

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

Just posting my frustration with healthcare.
My wife's doctor thinks she may have an uncommon disorder that amplifies her arthritis more. Closest specialist is almost 3 hours away. It took a few weeks for the referral to go through. She heard back last night.....next available appointment is January 2026! Yes, 2026.
I understand it's a specialist and there's just limited doctors, but over a year? Come on. 

My sister in law was diagnosed with skin cancer a few years ago. She gets the call that the biopsy was cancerous and to see a specialist and ran into the same thing. What a horrible thing to get a diagnosis like that and then be told you have to wait six months for someone to look at it. 

Ridiculous

She ended up driving to Indianapolis to see a Dr...maybe 3-4 weeks after diagnosis. It all turned out good but what a fucked up system.

shecky

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Just posting my frustration with healthcare.
My wife's doctor thinks she may have an uncommon disorder that amplifies her arthritis more. Closest specialist is almost 3 hours away. It took a few weeks for the referral to go through. She heard back last night.....next available appointment is January 2026! Yes, 2026.
I understand it's a specialist and there's just limited doctors, but over a year? Come on. 

My sister in law was diagnosed with skin cancer a few years ago. She gets the call that the biopsy was cancerous and to see a specialist and ran into the same thing. What a horrible thing to get a diagnosis like that and then be told you have to wait six months for someone to look at it. 

Ridiculous

She ended up driving to Indianapolis to see a Dr...maybe 3-4 weeks after diagnosis. It all turned out good but what a fucked up system.

There just aren't enough doctors, especially specialists, to treat our aging population anymore. The older we get, the more care we need.
I don't know why so few people want to become doctors anymore, but I've heard some say that there's just too much paperwork to do these days and others are frightened off by the law suites filed by ambulance-chasing lawyers.
Anyway, glad your story had a happy conclusion.

mace1229

shecky said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Just posting my frustration with healthcare.
My wife's doctor thinks she may have an uncommon disorder that amplifies her arthritis more. Closest specialist is almost 3 hours away. It took a few weeks for the referral to go through. She heard back last night.....next available appointment is January 2026! Yes, 2026.
I understand it's a specialist and there's just limited doctors, but over a year? Come on. 

My sister in law was diagnosed with skin cancer a few years ago. She gets the call that the biopsy was cancerous and to see a specialist and ran into the same thing. What a horrible thing to get a diagnosis like that and then be told you have to wait six months for someone to look at it. 

Ridiculous

She ended up driving to Indianapolis to see a Dr...maybe 3-4 weeks after diagnosis. It all turned out good but what a fucked up system.

There just aren't enough doctors, especially specialists, to treat our aging population anymore. The older we get, the more care we need.
I don't know why so few people want to become doctors anymore, but I've heard some say that there's just too much paperwork to do these days and others are frightened off by the law suites filed by ambulance-chasing lawyers.
Anyway, glad your story had a happy conclusion.

My wife was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis when she was about 30, pretty young for that. And it was a pretty advanced case of it. She's been on Humira since it was basically new. Every time we switch insurance companies she has to jump through all sorts of hoops to stay on it. They keep denying her coverage until she does X Y and Z, which take months to do. And most recently they flat out denied Humira because there is a similar generic available. She's been on that for a few months. But it's infuriating knowing that she's found a drug that works, and they're forcing her to go off it and try something else to save money. 
I don't even remember what she might have now, I've never heard of it. But the symptoms are pretty similar so it's been masked for a while. Nothing life threatening, but things like fatigue and swelling in hands that are compounded with arthritis. She's spoken to her arthritis specialist and general doctor, basically there's nothing they can do other than suggest see the specialist, he's the only one that can determine if that's what she has or not. And looks like there's only 1 in the state. So it's a 13 month waitlist to see him. 
I don't think it will change a whole lot other than give more documentation to try and stay on Humira or something like that. And maybe get on disability since she's stopped working a few years ago largely due to her arthritis (and having young kids at home), but was considered too young to qualify for anything. When she was working she'd come home and just sleep for literally 14 hours then get up the next day.

And the copays are insane. It changes often, right now I think it's $600 a month for Humira. Luckily for us she's been a "loyalty" patient because she's been on it so long or something like that, so Humira will reimburse her for all but $5 of the cost. But if we were to be new to it, we'd be paying it all. 

cblock4life

That’s crazy mace!  She’s been thru so much.  I have an autoimmune disorder as well so I truly understand what she suffers with on a daily basis.  And kudos to you for being such a supportive husband.  I wish you all the best.  

These diseases aren’t life threatening but the number one cause of death amongst those with autoimmune issues is suicide.  Having a supportive family makes all the difference.  Good for you! 

Gern Blansten

Sure seems like a professional hit...dude even went to Starbucks before. Crazy shit

PJ_Soul

I immediately assumed it was a revenge killing, because the insurer let someone die for profit. I would think this man had a million enemies. Could have also been a political thing. It will probably be really hard to pin down a culprit.

Amazing how they mobilize when the dead person is rich and influential, but are so totally stretched for resources and time when a "normal" gets murdered.

Halifax2TheMax

PJ_Soul said:

I immediately assumed it was a revenge killing, because the insurer let someone die for profit. I would think this man had a million enemies. Could have also been a political thing. It will probably he really hard to pin down a culprit.

Anyone get POOTWH’s opinion on this? Medicare and Medicaid fraud is a huge business and one the mob, both Russian and old school, participate in. Maybe he knew too much and was going to expose it or wouldn’t play along? Or fucked around with the wrong guy’s wife.

Gern Blansten

PJ_Soul said:

I immediately assumed it was a revenge killing, because the insurer let someone die for profit. I would think this man had a million enemies. Could have also been a political thing. It will probably be really hard to pin down a culprit.

Amazing how they mobilize when the dead person is rich and influential, but are so totally stretched for resources and time when a "normal" gets murdered.

Possible but it doesn't seem like your average disgruntled person could plan a perfect hit and getaway like that. His weapon jammed and he fixed it and fired more like no problem.

They might find more footage of him but he even wore a face covering in Starbucks

shecky

Gern Blansten said:

Sure seems like a professional hit...dude even went to Starbucks before. Crazy shit

That Starbucks could've been a huge mistake (besides the price). If they find that cup, and find him, a DNA match would seal his fate.

Tim Simmons

What a system. I’m sure HC will only get better for Americans in the next 4 years.