Obamacare

pjl44

Like do you want J6 wackos processing that logic?

Gern Blansten

pjl44 said:

Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.

She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.

Gern Blansten

pjl44 said:

Like do you want J6 wackos processing that logic?

well...that's what J6 was wasn't it? your dear leader pushed them to commit a crime

josevolution

pjl44 said:

Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.

I have zero problem with this statement! 

pjl44

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.

She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.

If the Presidential election were held next week I probably would have voted for Trump. The reaction of the left to this (including prominent elected officials as noted here) is batshit insane and most generously puts them at a wash with Republican looniness. (Unless they had a sane candidate speaking out clearly against this a la Fetterman or Shapiro.)

josevolution

You know what’s bizarre about this killing which by the way I don’t condone! Pundits on fox are outraged about the sympathizers of Luigi but cheered loudly when Kyle Rittenhouse killed the protesters! 

pjl44

If you have two brain cells to rub together and the attention span to think about it for five minutes consider what mechanisms are in place to bring down the price of health care services. It's not you and me shopping which is what works for just about every other good or service. So how do you do that in this structure?

pjl44

josevolution said:

You know what’s bizarre about this killing which by the way I don’t condone! Pundits on fox are outraged about the sympathizers of Luigi but cheered loudly when Kyle Rittenhouse killed the protesters! 

Because Rittenhouse shot someone who attacked him. He didn't sneak out from behind a car and shoot someone in the back. You can question the wisdom of him putting himself in that situation but these incidents are not remotely analogous.

pjl44

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Like do you want J6 wackos processing that logic?

well...that's what J6 was wasn't it? your dear leader pushed them to commit a crime

That's what I'm saying. Congrats to Democrats operating on Trump's level.

pjl44

josevolution said:

pjl44 said:

Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.

I have zero problem with this statement! 

I believe you 

Gern Blansten

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Like do you want J6 wackos processing that logic?

well...that's what J6 was wasn't it? your dear leader pushed them to commit a crime

That's what I'm saying. Congrats to Democrats operating on Trump's level.

What democrat? Pretty clear that Luigi was in your court

pjl44

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Like do you want J6 wackos processing that logic?

well...that's what J6 was wasn't it? your dear leader pushed them to commit a crime

That's what I'm saying. Congrats to Democrats operating on Trump's level.

What democrat? Pretty clear that Luigi was in your court

Elizabeth Warren, et al. Do you find it strange that she's equivocating for someone you don't see as being "in your court?"

pjl44

And why would you say he's in "my court" when I seem to be one of the few people around here willing to call this unequivocally evil?

Gern Blansten

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Like do you want J6 wackos processing that logic?

well...that's what J6 was wasn't it? your dear leader pushed them to commit a crime

That's what I'm saying. Congrats to Democrats operating on Trump's level.

What democrat? Pretty clear that Luigi was in your court

Elizabeth Warren, et al. Do you find it strange that she's equivocating for someone you don't see as being "in your court?"

She clearly said that what he did was wrong but that we should expect more of this if we don't fix things.

It's like the homeless and/or lower class arguments for more social services that the GOP opposes. At some point there will be a massive homeless hoard that will overrun all of us and we won't be able to stop it. My side keeps saying we need to get more from the wealthy and your side keeps opposing that. The money has to come from somewhere and cutting social services is not the answer.

Gern Blansten

pjl44 said:

And why would you say he's in "my court" when I seem to be one of the few people around here willing to call this unequivocally evil?

It seemed like you were saying Luigi was a democrat or something....I don't think so.

Sorry if I misinterpreted.

pjl44

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Like do you want J6 wackos processing that logic?

well...that's what J6 was wasn't it? your dear leader pushed them to commit a crime

That's what I'm saying. Congrats to Democrats operating on Trump's level.

What democrat? Pretty clear that Luigi was in your court

Elizabeth Warren, et al. Do you find it strange that she's equivocating for someone you don't see as being "in your court?"

She clearly said that what he did was wrong but that we should expect more of this if we don't fix things.

It's like the homeless and/or lower class arguments for more social services that the GOP opposes. At some point there will be a massive homeless hoard that will overrun all of us and we won't be able to stop it. My side keeps saying we need to get more from the wealthy and your side keeps opposing that. The money has to come from somewhere and cutting social services is not the answer.

This is an appropriate statement from a Democrat Senator

Gern Blansten

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Like do you want J6 wackos processing that logic?

well...that's what J6 was wasn't it? your dear leader pushed them to commit a crime

That's what I'm saying. Congrats to Democrats operating on Trump's level.

What democrat? Pretty clear that Luigi was in your court

Elizabeth Warren, et al. Do you find it strange that she's equivocating for someone you don't see as being "in your court?"

She clearly said that what he did was wrong but that we should expect more of this if we don't fix things.

It's like the homeless and/or lower class arguments for more social services that the GOP opposes. At some point there will be a massive homeless hoard that will overrun all of us and we won't be able to stop it. My side keeps saying we need to get more from the wealthy and your side keeps opposing that. The money has to come from somewhere and cutting social services is not the answer.

This is an appropriate statement from a Democrat Senator

totally agree...he's another Unabomber

but it still points out a problem...people will snap and they will take matters into their own hands. We're a gun culture...that's how we solve things.

pjl44

This is an appropriate statement from a Democrat governor

pjl44

Any changes to the healthcare system should be made because they improve the healthcare system. Congress can get to work on that. It's not easy, it's complex. Warren's intimation that it becomes more urgent under threat of a bullet is vile.

Tim Simmons

I'd argue its a fringe element cheering it on and its a majority of people showing minimal empathy for the CEO in this situation. But because a fringe element *exists* its painted as the median POV and therefore all the left (even though people meming it was across the whole ideological spectrum). Thats generally what happens when you view the world as only left right/black white.

pjl44

Tim Simmons said:

I'd argue its a fringe element cheering it on and its a majority of people showing minimal empathy for the CEO in this situation. But because a fringe element *exists* its painted as the median POV and therefore all the left (even though people meming it was across the whole ideological spectrum). Thats generally what happens when you view the world as only left right/black white.

Elizabeth Warren is in the US Senate

Tim Simmons

I do find it interesting that we are hung up on how people are reacting this story and not why they are reacting this way. I guess its just easier to browbeat people for feeling a way rather than fixing whats clearly a problem. But thats America in 2024 isn't it. Its easier to just take an emotional position on something than it does to actually deal with a real problem. 

pjl44

The line of decency isn't above "cheering it on," it's above "equivocating a murder"

pjl44

Tim Simmons said:

I do find it interesting that we are hung up on how people are reacting this story and not why they are reacting this way. I guess its just easier to browbeat people for feeling a way rather than fixing whats clearly a problem. But thats America in 2024 isn't it. Its easier to just take an emotional position on something than it does to actually deal with a real problem. 

The why is because people are simplifying a complex problem to the point of equivocating murder

Tim Simmons

When a system minimizes certain lives, don’t be shocked when that cancer starts spreading. 

pjl44

Tim Simmons said:

When a system minimizes certain lives, don’t be shocked when that cancer starts spreading. 

This is complete hyperbole 

Halifax2TheMax

This is only a story until the next fauxrage occurs. Or until POOTWH delivers that concept of a plan to make healthcare more affordable, accessible and better than ever to Congress for a vote. THE BEST IS YET TO COME! Well, for Greece anyway.

Tim Simmons

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.

She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.

If the Presidential election were held next week I probably would have voted for Trump. 

This is fucking hilarious BTW.  But I get it, you’d hate to be associated with monsters who have vile positions on topics. 

mickeyrat

https://www.threads.net/@propublica/post/DDcLJxDIFna?xmt=AQGzqdMPbIYJwX3GLL2ghHwLeM8oQhhy28D9VFjbcOoakQ

pjl44

The scion of a prominent, wealthy family who graduated valedictorian of a 40k/year prep school is having his "life minimized" folks