Lottery... So much for appeasing the loyal fanbase.

EmBleve

cokelogic wrote:

Abandon the lottery!

I am a winner of the lottery, but I won because of dumb luck and not keeping my 10c membership alive since 1995.

Next time I might not be so lucky, get rid of it.

Hear, hear. I'm the same about not keeping my membership alive since 98. I would just like some of that luck once in a while. I'm glad I get to go see them (that they're coming to NC again finally), don't get me wrong, and more power to the people who can travel all around and see multiple shows (I can't). I also agree with other posts about this foolish "loyalty" business. I know I've been a loyal fan since 1994, but lottery is luck of the draw, and a number in a fan club shouldn't be an indicator of loyalty.

Eroom21

I am baffled some almost everything people are saying. First off senority only helped you get good seats AFTER you got 10c tickets, everyone had the same chance to buy tickets, senority never had anything to do with it. Second, there never was a problem with the old "F5" system until 10c put the PJ20 show onsale the same day, within hours, of two toronto shows hamilton and a couple of other show in the US. The system crashed because of the sheer amount of people trying to get PJ20 tickets. I have never had problems getting tickets any other time in the past. Even back in '05 I was able to log on and get tickets for 2 Toronto shows, Hamilton, Kitchener and London without any problem at all. In fact, my friend just got lottery tickets for Buffalo, Charlottesville, Charlotte, Oklahoma City,Pheonix, Calgary and Vancouver.

So I think getting tickets through 10c is normally easy, except for those certain areas, New York, Boston, Philly and I am guessing L.A. Maybe they could use a lootery system for certain shows or just stagger the dates they start selling shows so people getting tickets for some small market don't get screwed because off all of the people trying to get tickets for those large markets all at the same time.

e1mariachi

It annoys me when people think seniority should get preference. Everyone who joins the tenclub is a fan whether they been a fan since 91 or a fan since last week. Everyone deserves a chance. Also the tenclub is a bit naff, the only thing that is worth joining it for these days is the pre-sales. I hate this lottery as why join the club if thats not guaranteed? But at the same time if there is a lottery, it must be an even playing field.

MG79478

e1mariachi wrote:

It annoys me when people think seniority should get preference. Everyone who joins the tenclub is a fan whether they been a fan since 91 or a fan since last week. Everyone deserves a chance. Also the tenclub is a bit naff, the only thing that is worth joining it for these days is the pre-sales. I hate this lottery as why join the club if thats not guaranteed? But at the same time if there is a lottery, it must be an even playing field.

The band is a bunch of liberals, who generally support labor unions (like it's still the 1950s), where seniority (not ability, worth ethic or anything that should matter) is king. Since most people on this board fall right in line with the band's politics, they should be all for seniority.

Kathi

MG79478 wrote:

e1mariachi wrote:

It annoys me when people think seniority should get preference. Everyone who joins the tenclub is a fan whether they been a fan since 91 or a fan since last week. Everyone deserves a chance. Also the tenclub is a bit naff, the only thing that is worth joining it for these days is the pre-sales. I hate this lottery as why join the club if thats not guaranteed? But at the same time if there is a lottery, it must be an even playing field.

The band is a bunch of liberals, who generally support labor unions (like it's still the 1950s), where seniority (not ability, worth ethic or anything that should matter) is king. Since most people on this board fall right in line with the band's politics, they should be all for seniority.

besides your obviously deliberate misunderstanding of everything a union stands for....lottery means equal chances for everyone. which falls right into the world view this band and their liberal, borderline-communist fans like.

dimitrispearljam

Kathi wrote:

besides your obviously deliberate misunderstanding of everything a union stands for....lottery means equal chances for everyone. which falls right into the world view this band and their liberal, borderline-communist fans like.

you wasting your time..just lets party ,our band is back to our continent..woot

Kathi

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Kathi wrote:

besides your obviously deliberate misunderstanding of everything a union stands for....lottery means equal chances for everyone. which falls right into the world view this band and their liberal, borderline-communist fans like.

you wasting your time..just lets party ,our band is back to our continent..woot

yeah, the only reason I'm even on here is I'm useless for anything else until this lotto is done...

MG79478

Kathi wrote:

besides your obviously deliberate misunderstanding of everything a union stands for....lottery means equal chances for everyone. which falls right into the world view this band and their liberal, borderline-communist fans like.

I know what unions stand for, I've seen them destroy people's work ethics, and destroy profitable businesses. A union is mini version of the Democratic Party. Those in charge pretend to be helping, but are only in it for personal gain. The weak and uneducated join for protection. Unions make it nearly impossible to fire a poor performer.

There might have been a time and place for unions, but that was long ago.

MG79478

dimitrispearljam wrote:

you wasting your time..just lets party ,our band is back to our continent..woot

Well, you are the king of wasting people's times, we should trust your opinion.

Spiritual_Chaos

MG79478 wrote:

I know what unions stand for, I've seen them destroy people's work ethics, and destroy profitable businesses. A union is mini version of the Democratic Party. Those in charge pretend to be helping, but are only in it for personal gain. The weak and uneducated join for protection. Unions make it nearly impossible to fire a poor performer.