i echo redrock, my heart is with you... i too have a sister who has been through this and she has never been the same... she never reported the incident, to my dismay. but i know the scumbag and i swear every day that i will eventually make him suffer. dexter style
it might have been good if someone tried to debate him to show what an unenlightened ass this guy was about this.
or just ignore him as the troll he is. NOW he has a national/worldwide audience and has his 15 minutes so to speak.
Yes, a woman wearing revealing clothing is going to get my attention but thats as far as it should go.
as for the greater aspect of speech brought up a few posts ago, as hard as it may be sometimes, well theres a reason its in the first amendment. we have to take the good with the bad. Its the way we are set up.
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i echo redrock, my heart is with you... i too have a sister who has been through this and she has never been the same... she never reported the incident, to my dismay. but i know the scumbag and i swear every day that i will eventually make him suffer. dexter style
a friend of mine who has rather sociopathic apsects to his personality approached my dad about paying a visit. My father couldnt have that on his conscience.
back in 2006 that guy was gut shot in an alley after an illegal cardgame. Killer has never been found to my knowledge.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
it might have been good if someone tried to debate him to show what an unenlightened ass this guy was about this.
or just ignore him as the troll he is. NOW he has a national/worldwide audience and has his 15 minutes so to speak.
Yes, a woman wearing revealing clothing is going to get my attention but thats as far as it should go.
as for the greater aspect of speech brought up a few posts ago, as hard as it may be sometimes, well theres a reason its in the first amendment. we have to take the good with the bad. Its the way we are set up.
I agree that one takes the good and the bad but what concerns me is that, of course he has his 15 minutes of fame but, as said, he is part of a growning part of the population that listen to this kind of stuff, find that it suits them and agree with it. We have politicians claiming the same thing. This kind of condoning could potentially be far reaching, eg in bringing the rapist to justice, the whole process and the punishment. In this case, it's women 'asking for it' was the issue, but this is just one example of despicable rhetoric spewed about.
But as you said... for each and every one of these, there should (and must!) be a louder voice to counteract....
it might have been good if someone tried to debate him to show what an unenlightened ass this guy was about this.
or just ignore him as the troll he is. NOW he has a national/worldwide audience and has his 15 minutes so to speak.
Yes, a woman wearing revealing clothing is going to get my attention but thats as far as it should go.
as for the greater aspect of speech brought up a few posts ago, as hard as it may be sometimes, well theres a reason its in the first amendment. we have to take the good with the bad. Its the way we are set up.
I agree that one takes the good and the bad but what concerns me is that, of course he has his 15 minutes of fame but, as said, he is part of a growning part of the population that listen to this kind of stuff, find that it suits them and agree with it. We have politicians claiming the same thing. This kind of condoning could potentially be far reaching, eg in bringing the rapist to justice, the whole process and the punishment. In this case, it's women 'asking for it' was the issue, but this is just one example of despicable rhetoric spewed about.
But as you said... for each and every one of these, there should (and must!) be a louder voice to counteract....
heres the thing, imo, this has always been so. whats happening now is these guys with this mindset are being exposed for the assholes they are. Look at the fucking dickwads that ran for office with fucked up ideas about a variety of womans issues.
The outpouring of support for that young lady from W Virginia raped by those now convicted jocks is a positive taken out of that horrific experience. People ARE speaking up for whats right to counter this attitude. Change is slow in coming though.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
back in 2006 that guy was gut shot in an alley after an illegal cardgame. Killer has never been found to my knowledge.
the rapist, or the sociopathic friend???
the rapist.
the friend is in prison , eligible for parole in 2032? or maybe its 2035. murder. supposedly posed as a cop busting a drug deal in a hotel room. gun specification as a prior felon. He of course claims innocence. I think he is absolutely capable of it. Funny though, I was never nervous around him.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I carried hatred for him ( myself too) for 18 years. I was in drug/alcohol treatment center when I read a story in the newspaper on the 4th about a blockwatch cookout held earlier in the day of the 2nd and how this guy was shot that night in the alley behind that same house.
he died on Aug 2 2006 at about 9:00 pm or so. Right around this same time I was reciting the prayer for step 3 of alcoholics anonymous.
Somehow my first thought was for his family and what they must be going through. I ended up going to his funeral. With the repsect the event deserved
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
holy shit mick....thats a crazy fucking story. youre a better man than me...i woulda pissed on his dead body if that were my sisters attacker
I would have thought that too.
All that hate and illwill was just gone. Poof.
this is how I'm quite sure there is some kind of power at work in the universe. Much greater than me.
Bingo. I too echo the condolences and well-wishes. Bravo to you and the resolve and strength I'm sure it's taken to get to...today.
redrock, good question on free speech. I feel like I have to support it, even the ridiculous hateful kind. Not the sentiments themselves but the ability to proclaim them. Even the sick lost soul carrying the sign.
As mickeyrat said, it exposes them.
I'd rather know who these shit-mongers are than they keep quiet and carry on their hate behind a curtain.
(PS...hope your lovely daughter is having fun tonight and that you keep on poof'ing )
I am so saddened by your sister's story Mickeyrat.
^^ this
and some of the things said in this thread....just wow
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
Condolences to you Mickeyrat, regardless how much time has past, it still sounds so tragic. You're quite strong to recognize the universe at work and to let it be.
As for the guy with the sign? Well, people who lack security need attention any way that they can get it. It's best to either carry our own signs or to just ignore him.
In my book... no one DESERVES to be victimized. In the case of rape, it lies 100% on the rapist.
It has nothing to do with the way a woman dresses... or her modesty. If this were true, then the women who cover themselves from head to toe in burquas would be the most respected, well treated women in the world. We all know, this is no the case.
If a guy can't control himself because a woman wears a mini-skirt... or a tight t-shirt... or a bathing suit... or smiles at him... or makes eye contact with him... that is his problem, not hers.
Also, rape is typically about power, not sex. A rapist will go after someone they can dominate... regardless of how she looks or how she is dressed.
...
As for this person mentioned in the original post... man, would i love to talk to this guy. Seriously, I would. I love talking to crazy people... like the ones foolish enough to press my doorbell and ask me if I've heard the word of God, yet.
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I'm quite sure my younger sister wasnt asking for it as she waited for our mom to get home since she forgot her key that day.
I'm quite sure she didnt think she needed to be "prepared" for the douchebag older brother of the boy she liked taking her into the laundry room of the apt building and raping and beating her.
I'm also quite sure she thought he would be convicted.
Fucking shame then she lost on all counts and decided suicide was a better option. 25 years gone now.
Fuck nut ended up doing 6 months on a plea my father approved to have it finished.
Oh wow, I'm so sorry Mickeyrat, that's so incredibly sad. I don't wish to go into it but I can say that no woman is asking for it. Thoughts like that come from stupid fucking morons that are either rapists themselves or just can't get any. That dick brain needs to come talk to some victims and let them bash the living shit out of him.
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I carried hatred for him ( myself too) for 18 years. I was in drug/alcohol treatment center when I read a story in the newspaper on the 4th about a blockwatch cookout held earlier in the day of the 2nd and how this guy was shot that night in the alley behind that same house.
he died on Aug 2 2006 at about 9:00 pm or so. Right around this same time I was reciting the prayer for step 3 of alcoholics anonymous.
Somehow my first thought was for his family and what they must be going through. I ended up going to his funeral. With the repsect the event deserved
wow. my first thought after reading this was "I'd love to meet you and talk to you by a fire for an evening".
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if a woman was walking naked down the street wearing a sign saying "I love fucking", that STILL would not warrant being taken by force. point being: there is no scenario in the world where a person deserves to be assaulted.
EVER.
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if a woman was walking naked down the street wearing a sign saying "I love fucking", that STILL would not warrant being taken by force. point being: there is no scenario in the world where a person deserves to be assaulted.
EVER.
...
Exactly. It is not the smartest thing to do, but it does not justify someone commiting a crime base on someone else's poor decision making.
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Spent the past 2 weeks in Hawaii... pretty much surf and sushi the whole time. Missed you, too.
Speaking of which... you guys should check out J.Ament's band. They are going to be at the Bootleg Theater on Beverly Blvd. on may 8th. Or.. next time we're at Largo... we should meet up at Sushi On La Cienega (a bit pricey, but great) or Swingers (Beverly, near Fairfax).
...
aloha.
Thanks for the heads-up and happy for your surf & sushi time! Aloha back, bud.
PS...some great guys on this forum, that's for sure.
I meant blaming men who are not helping to stop rape ... the society of male thought...
that is the men all around.
If you want to stop rape stop bitching and do something about it.
A women can be just as smart, strong and empowered as a man we just have to teach them how.
or we can continue to blame men... I'd rather take action as many women are.
oh im sorry... WHAT? MEN are to blame when they rape women. MEN... it doesn't matter what women are wearing. what time they are out and about or the attitude they exude. the onus NOT TO RAPE is on men. I know youre trying to be clever here Pandora but how dare you even consider that women are somehow to blame for the actions of men. and how dare you suggest we stop bitching and 'do something about it'. what is it you suggest we(as women) do to stop rape? WE are smart. we ARE strong. but no matter what we say, how we act or what we impart to our daughters, the society we live in a patriarchal society and one that sees the trepass of men as something to be indulged cause somehow after all these years women are still seen as somehow inferior, weaker and not worth as much as men. I say to you that it is NOT us women that need to change but MEN who need to modify their attitude towards us. raping is wrong... we know that... why is it we need to tell men that?
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I meant blaming men who are not helping to stop rape ... the society of male thought...
that is the men all around.
If you want to stop rape stop bitching and do something about it.
A women can be just as smart, strong and empowered as a man we just have to teach them how.
or we can continue to blame men... I'd rather take action as many women are.
oh im sorry... WHAT? MEN are to blame when they rape women. MEN... it doesn't matter what women are wearing. what time they are out and about or the attitude they exude. the onus NOT TO RAPE is on men. I know youre trying to be clever here Pandora but how dare you even consider that women are somehow to blame for the actions of men. and how dare you suggest we stop bitching and 'do something about it'. what is it you suggest we(as women) do to stop rape? WE are smart. we ARE strong. but no matter what we say, how we act or what we impart to our daughters, the society we live in a patriarchal society and one that sees the trepass of men as something to be indulged cause somehow after all these years women are still seen as somehow inferior, weaker and not worth as much as men. I say to you that it is NOT us women that need to change but MEN who need to modify their attitude towards us. raping is wrong... we know that... why is it we need to tell men that?
What is of equal concern to me is that there are women out there who buy into the notion that women ARE to blame for rape. That men canNOT control themselves (as if rape is about sex) and that some women believe they are inferior to men and thus believe that rape is deserved in any way. Perhaps it is not just the mindset of some men that needs to be changed but of some women as well (not implying that of any women on this board just saying women in general). Must also acknowledge what someone said earlier about having some stand up men on these boards (women too!)
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I meant blaming men who are not helping to stop rape ... the society of male thought...
that is the men all around.
If you want to stop rape stop bitching and do something about it.
A women can be just as smart, strong and empowered as a man we just have to teach them how.
or we can continue to blame men... I'd rather take action as many women are.
oh im sorry... WHAT? MEN are to blame when they rape women. MEN... it doesn't matter what women are wearing. what time they are out and about or the attitude they exude. the onus NOT TO RAPE is on men. I know youre trying to be clever here Pandora but how dare you even consider that women are somehow to blame for the actions of men. and how dare you suggest we stop bitching and 'do something about it'. what is it you suggest we(as women) do to stop rape? WE are smart. we ARE strong. but no matter what we say, how we act or what we impart to our daughters, the society we live in a patriarchal society and one that sees the trepass of men as something to be indulged cause somehow after all these years women are still seen as somehow inferior, weaker and not worth as much as men. I say to you that it is NOT us women that need to change but MEN who need to modify their attitude towards us. raping is wrong... we know that... why is it we need to tell men that?
I never said a woman is to blame for rape, not once.
Yes I spoke of just that male mentality... Neanderthal.
What is most to blame is we are not teaching women to fight back. Why?
And why are women in the position to be raped?
I mean there is a rape like every few minutes in the US. Why?
I believe each person is responsible for their own safety and must take it upon themselves
to protect themselves. The young girls we hear being victimized when drinking too much.
Can we educate young girls about those that will take advantage of them?
Can we teach them not to put themselves in vulnerable places? EVER.
I feel women should be far more empowered then they are. Be ready to kill to protect their bodies.
Self defense, weapon carrying, good common sense like don't go to the hotel room of two men
you meet in a bar while traveling :? really?
there are bad bad people waiting for the opportunity to victimize.
This something that should be taught as soon as a child can understand. Then age appropriate
lessons there after.
I guess we can just rag again about the idiot here talking foolish or say the redundant...
there should be no rape ever... men should know better :wtf: ain't gonna happen.
or we, as the victims can do something about it. I vote do something.
Each and every woman do something to protect themselves.
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so sorry too Mickeyrat. how awful for her and your family.
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but thread integrity,
it might have been good if someone tried to debate him to show what an unenlightened ass this guy was about this.
or just ignore him as the troll he is. NOW he has a national/worldwide audience and has his 15 minutes so to speak.
Yes, a woman wearing revealing clothing is going to get my attention but thats as far as it should go.
as for the greater aspect of speech brought up a few posts ago, as hard as it may be sometimes, well theres a reason its in the first amendment. we have to take the good with the bad. Its the way we are set up.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
back in 2006 that guy was gut shot in an alley after an illegal cardgame. Killer has never been found to my knowledge.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I agree that one takes the good and the bad but what concerns me is that, of course he has his 15 minutes of fame but, as said, he is part of a growning part of the population that listen to this kind of stuff, find that it suits them and agree with it. We have politicians claiming the same thing. This kind of condoning could potentially be far reaching, eg in bringing the rapist to justice, the whole process and the punishment. In this case, it's women 'asking for it' was the issue, but this is just one example of despicable rhetoric spewed about.
But as you said... for each and every one of these, there should (and must!) be a louder voice to counteract....
The outpouring of support for that young lady from W Virginia raped by those now convicted jocks is a positive taken out of that horrific experience. People ARE speaking up for whats right to counter this attitude. Change is slow in coming though.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
the rapist, or the sociopathic friend???
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the friend is in prison , eligible for parole in 2032? or maybe its 2035. murder. supposedly posed as a cop busting a drug deal in a hotel room. gun specification as a prior felon. He of course claims innocence. I think he is absolutely capable of it. Funny though, I was never nervous around him.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
^^ this
and some of the things said in this thread....just wow
I carried hatred for him ( myself too) for 18 years. I was in drug/alcohol treatment center when I read a story in the newspaper on the 4th about a blockwatch cookout held earlier in the day of the 2nd and how this guy was shot that night in the alley behind that same house.
he died on Aug 2 2006 at about 9:00 pm or so. Right around this same time I was reciting the prayer for step 3 of alcoholics anonymous.
Somehow my first thought was for his family and what they must be going through. I ended up going to his funeral. With the repsect the event deserved
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
All that hate and illwill was just gone. Poof.
this is how I'm quite sure there is some kind of power at work in the universe. Much greater than me.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
redrock, good question on free speech. I feel like I have to support it, even the ridiculous hateful kind. Not the sentiments themselves but the ability to proclaim them. Even the sick lost soul carrying the sign.
As mickeyrat said, it exposes them.
I'd rather know who these shit-mongers are than they keep quiet and carry on their hate behind a curtain.
(PS...hope your lovely daughter is having fun tonight and that you keep on poof'ing
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
Condolences to you Mickeyrat, regardless how much time has past, it still sounds so tragic. You're quite strong to recognize the universe at work and to let it be.
As for the guy with the sign? Well, people who lack security need attention any way that they can get it. It's best to either carry our own signs or to just ignore him.
It has nothing to do with the way a woman dresses... or her modesty. If this were true, then the women who cover themselves from head to toe in burquas would be the most respected, well treated women in the world. We all know, this is no the case.
If a guy can't control himself because a woman wears a mini-skirt... or a tight t-shirt... or a bathing suit... or smiles at him... or makes eye contact with him... that is his problem, not hers.
Also, rape is typically about power, not sex. A rapist will go after someone they can dominate... regardless of how she looks or how she is dressed.
...
As for this person mentioned in the original post... man, would i love to talk to this guy. Seriously, I would. I love talking to crazy people... like the ones foolish enough to press my doorbell and ask me if I've heard the word of God, yet.
Hail, Hail!!!
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Speaking of which... you guys should check out J.Ament's band. They are going to be at the Bootleg Theater on Beverly Blvd. on may 8th. Or.. next time we're at Largo... we should meet up at Sushi On La Cienega (a bit pricey, but great) or Swingers (Beverly, near Fairfax).
...
aloha.
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wow. my first thought after reading this was "I'd love to meet you and talk to you by a fire for an evening".
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Exactly. It is not the smartest thing to do, but it does not justify someone commiting a crime base on someone else's poor decision making.
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oh im sorry... WHAT? MEN are to blame when they rape women. MEN... it doesn't matter what women are wearing. what time they are out and about or the attitude they exude. the onus NOT TO RAPE is on men. I know youre trying to be clever here Pandora but how dare you even consider that women are somehow to blame for the actions of men. and how dare you suggest we stop bitching and 'do something about it'. what is it you suggest we(as women) do to stop rape? WE are smart. we ARE strong. but no matter what we say, how we act or what we impart to our daughters, the society we live in a patriarchal society and one that sees the trepass of men as something to be indulged cause somehow after all these years women are still seen as somehow inferior, weaker and not worth as much as men. I say to you that it is NOT us women that need to change but MEN who need to modify their attitude towards us. raping is wrong... we know that... why is it we need to tell men that?
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What is of equal concern to me is that there are women out there who buy into the notion that women ARE to blame for rape. That men canNOT control themselves (as if rape is about sex) and that some women believe they are inferior to men and thus believe that rape is deserved in any way. Perhaps it is not just the mindset of some men that needs to be changed but of some women as well (not implying that of any women on this board just saying women in general). Must also acknowledge what someone said earlier about having some stand up men on these boards (women too!)
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Yes I spoke of just that male mentality... Neanderthal.
What is most to blame is we are not teaching women to fight back. Why?
And why are women in the position to be raped?
I mean there is a rape like every few minutes in the US. Why?
I believe each person is responsible for their own safety and must take it upon themselves
to protect themselves. The young girls we hear being victimized when drinking too much.
Can we educate young girls about those that will take advantage of them?
Can we teach them not to put themselves in vulnerable places? EVER.
I feel women should be far more empowered then they are. Be ready to kill to protect their bodies.
Self defense, weapon carrying, good common sense like don't go to the hotel room of two men
you meet in a bar while traveling :? really?
there are bad bad people waiting for the opportunity to victimize.
This something that should be taught as soon as a child can understand. Then age appropriate
lessons there after.
I guess we can just rag again about the idiot here talking foolish or say the redundant...
there should be no rape ever... men should know better :wtf: ain't gonna happen.
or we, as the victims can do something about it. I vote do something.
Each and every woman do something to protect themselves.
she's finishing her studies now to stop victimizers in their tracks ... tall order.