Boston Marathon - explosion

PJ_Soul

Well, I see that many of you woke up this morning feeling like mental cases. Excellent. Carry on. :corn:

lukin2006

mickeyrat wrote:

chadwick wrote:

it is true by heart & soul that when you terrorize citizens of whatever country you are from or wherever you live, if you bomb/terrorize & maim & kill others you have just signed over your rights, you have just denounced yourself & you are up a fucking creek without a boat or paddle

these assholes denounced not only themselves but all the people they hurt & killed, all the families involved, their own family & friends, every citizen of boston & the surrounding area as well as all of America & the rest of the world.

happens all the time across the globe.

these two pricks took full advantage of being a American citizen. they had nice clothes, attended schools, had jobs, had a home, had cars. they could have stayed in their corner of the world. who knows, maybe they had plans planned out for them since day one of fucking up boston one day.

terror cells work at their agendas for decades at a time

Hmm, arriving ten years ago, so at 16 yrs old and 9 yrs old respectively , they coeirced their parents to flee their wartorn homeland in order to come here and do all this mayhem?

Cmon, dude.

I for one am interested to learn what the motivation was for these acts.

I agree ... its in everyone's best interest to know what the motive was.

chadwick

I may or may not have always been a genius in this thread, other threads or in this physical meat apparatus that is me and the moments in my life's happenings, all types covered

thank you,

Dr. Delight

mickeyrat

chadwick wrote:

I may or may not have always been a genius in this thread, other threads or in this physical meat apparatus that is me and the moments in my life's happenings, all types covered

thank you,

I was just asking for a collective deep breath, ya know?

Most certainly this act(s) was abhorant. As for the human beings behind this? Man, I really would like a fuller picture of who they are and what motivated them.

Perhaps , getting hauled in at the request of the Russian gov( so its been reported, whatever thats worth) is what set him on this kind of path.

In times like these, I feel, we MUST rise above and allow the systems we have in place that make this such a supposedly great country do what it is they do.

The Constitution and the ideals that America espouse either ARE the way to go, or we should just shut the fuck up about them, if we cant attempt to rise up to those ideals. We cant have it both ways.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

unsung wrote:

I don't approve of the actions of government in the name of "keeping us safe".

yikes. so what should they have done to catch him in your eyes?

I'll ask again.......

I asked as well. He doesn't have an answer because there is no better solution than the one that played out. He simply hates Obama and looks for any reason possible to sling mud at him. A few posts back he basically called everybody stupid and said he was leaving this thread because of that. Then he came back after doing some thinking to post some more rhetoric.

Bentleyspop

I'm done with this thread. Too many of you need a lesson in Constitutional law.

Peace.

unsung wrote:

Bentleyspop wrote:

It is known as the "Public Safety Exception". As decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1984.
Nothing unconstitutional about it.
It's just the whacko conspiracy theorists that want to make something out of nothing.

It stems from a 1984 U.S. Supreme Court case (New York v. Quarles) involving a Queens man charged with criminal gun possession. A witness told police the man raped her and had a gun. When they found him at an A&P supermarket, he had an empty shoulder holster. An officer, after handcuffing him, asked him where the gun was. The man gestured toward a stack of liquid-soap cartons, where police found a loaded revolver.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/04/19/the-public-safety-exception/

That applies when there is a threat of another immediate attack. The police have already declared this crisis over, therefore there is no reason to violate his rights. Of course they already know that, the threat being over that is.

dimitrispearljam

Dr. Delight wrote:

thermal camera?

badbrains

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

thermal camera?

No Dimi, it's analog.....

dimitrispearljam

i dont get why having this conversation about rights..
he killed people and he was a threat for public safety..
they would do EVERYTHING NEEDED to put him down..

dimitrispearljam

badbrains wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

thermal camera?

No Dimi, it's analog.....

Last-12-Exit

Id settle for unsung to explain which constitutional rights were violated. Because I haven't read or seen anything that would suggest they were

Edit: except for the home searches. I can only guess and say that the homeowners gave permission for the cops to search their home. If they forced themselves in the homes, then yes, that's a problem.

Dr. Delight

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

thermal camera?

Looks like a giant dildo in a boat.

dimitrispearljam

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Id settle for unsung to explain which constitutional rights were violated. Because I haven't read or seen anything that would suggest they were

Edit: except for the home searches. I can only guess and say that the homeowners gave permission for the cops to search their home. If they forced themselves in the homes, then yes, that's a problem.

if i was a home owner i would even pay the authorities to let them arrest that piece of shit and take hi away of my property

i guess unsung when he says his constitutional rights were violated,he means they didnt treat him as they treat people like 2002 at that hotel and vacation destination ..
you know..the Guantanamo Bay detention camp

dimitrispearljam

Dr. Delight wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

thermal camera?

Looks like a giant dildo in a boat.

lol

blackredyellow

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont get why having this conversation about rights..
he killed people and he was a threat for public safety..
they would do EVERYTHING NEEDED to put him down..

There is no constitutional rights issue yet. If they abuse the Public Safety Exemption which they likely will, then there needs to be a discussion. But who even knows if he will refuse to talk at this point. It's all speculation.

I don't have a problem with asking him about other plans or other participants or other explosives without Mirandizing him.

I do disagree with the Republican rhetoric going on now about classifying him as an enemy combatant. He is an American citizen, and he deserves the same rights as the rest of us. He didn't attack the the military or the government. He attacked other citizens. In my opinion, he is no different than a mass shooter or a serial killer or those types of scumbags.

rearviewross

blackredyellow wrote:

I do disagree with the Republican rhetoric going on now about classifying him as an enemy combatant. He is an American citizen, and he deserves the same rights as the rest of us. He didn't attack the the military or the government. He attacked other citizens. In my opinion, he is no different than a mass shooter or a serial killer or those types of scumbags.

Agreed.

chadwick

rearviewross wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

I do disagree with the Republican rhetoric going on now about classifying him as an enemy combatant. He is an American citizen, and he deserves the same rights as the rest of us. He didn't attack the the military or the government. He attacked other citizens. In my opinion, he is no different than a mass shooter or a serial killer or those types of scumbags.

Agreed.

still a puke who hopefully wore a rifle butt to his teeth when arrested

Thirty Bills Unpaid

blackredyellow wrote:

I do disagree with the Republican rhetoric going on now about classifying him as an enemy combatant. He is an American citizen, and he deserves the same rights as the rest of us. He didn't attack the the military or the government. He attacked other citizens. In my opinion, he is no different than a mass shooter or a serial killer or those types of scumbags.

This might be a case of semantics as you have rightfully referred to him as a scumbag, but I would venture to say he doesn't deserve the same rights as the rest of you. He's going to receive them and I understand why, but he deserves shit sandwiches and daily beatings. If not these... then death.

chadwick

cops, jail & prison guards & inmate cooks will all mess with him & his food. I wouldn't eat it! i'm good, go ahead, mr. bad guy. shit, spit & booger sandwiches.