I don't know if this is true. Depending on the market(s), I don't foresee having trouble getting tickets to all the shows.
For this very limited run of shows (Wrigley and London), It has been almost an embarrassment of riches for my two Pearl Jam Ten club buddies who I travel to all the shows together.
We all put in for the London/Wrigley pre-sale. One of us got tickets to Wrigley. The other guy got a single from the Tickemaster (or whomever) in the general sale. I then put in for the Wrigley 2nd chance sale and got a pair, and my other two travelling buds are going. That is five of us with no problems going to this great show.
For London, I got a single from the public sale, my buddy got an extra from another ten club fan, and then two of us just won the London 2nd chance sale.
Being a part of this community means never having to buy scalper tickets. I've acquired or traded, or sold at face value dozens of tickets to all the shows I've ever wanted to get into.
Hit the Euro tour after my wife gave me the Hall Pass, but didn't anticipate it. Me and three of my friends decided to go. We easily secured for face value tickets to Oslo, Norway, and Sweden. Then my one friend couldn't go and hooked up three fans to the shows he was out of.
This is the story all the time on these boards.
I love this community.
oh yeah buddy...oh yeah..
I'll give a fuck yeah to London and Wrigley!!! :thumbup:
we not gonna be in the bus together this time..but we will give our fuck yeah!!
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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please go back to the way it was. the old way even with the crashes was like a lottery. the way they do it now will make it extremely hard for the long time members to go to multiple shows as they did in the past. say someone who has been supporting the band for 20 years ,where is the loyalty to them. every system has its pros and cons but at least with when one was at the computer everyone had a fair shot at getting tickets. in my case i never got tickets to new york. but i understood that is the way it is. now i worry about getting tickets to shows in my hometown as well as the others i went to not too far away. please scrap the lottery. go to ticketmaster if you have to and charge an extra 10 bucks if need be. i think most would welcome it.
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please scrap the lottery. sell them on ticketmaster if you have to. if it costs 10 bucks more per ticket fine do it. even with the crashes it was like a lottery but you were the captain of your own ship. it is going to be very hard to go to multiple shows . remember people who go to multiple shows usually buy multiple merch.
please scrap the lottery. sell them on ticketmaster if you have to. if it costs 10 bucks more per ticket fine do it. even with the crashes it was like a lottery but you were the captain of your own ship. it is going to be very hard to go to multiple shows . remember people who go to multiple shows usually buy multiple merch.
now the captain is 10c and the rest of us dont have ranks we are all just costumers that paid the same money to get into the ship//..
and what logic is that multiple merch??fans go to one show only will not buy merch cos they score tic only for one show??who said that if u go to more than one show 10c merch table will have better sales..??
maybe another fan that never score before,now that he did score tix will spent a fortune cos he is happy will see the band on a high demand show and will buy 150 shirts that u and me will not..
how many shows u go,or score tix,has nothing to do how many merch they sell..others are fans too you know..
and maybe by going to just one show make you spent more money than usual for merch.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Wrigley=One of the hottest selling tickets of the summer. Demand was insane. Some people unfortunately got shutout.
Tour dates to be announced= 99.9% of the people here will get their tickets. No problem.
Plus people wont be able to cut their own throats, going for GA.
hehehe..true...and is always the same,,some shut out of fan club tix,some score..just now not the same will always score,and not the same will shut out..easy to get it,how and why this happened before,and easy to get now how and why will not happen again..
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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please go back to the way it was. the old way even with the crashes was like a lottery. the way they do it now will make it extremely hard for the long time members to go to multiple shows as they did in the past. say someone who has been supporting the band for 20 years ,where is the loyalty to them. every system has its pros and cons but at least with when one was at the computer everyone had a fair shot at getting tickets. in my case i never got tickets to new york. but i understood that is the way it is. now i worry about getting tickets to shows in my hometown as well as the others i went to not too far away. please scrap the lottery. go to ticketmaster if you have to and charge an extra 10 bucks if need be. i think most would welcome it.
F5 never really gave a benefit to seniority. That being said I don't think any system should. The turnover in 10c memberships has been low since seniority came in for ticket allocation. I would imagine anyone that joint after the Binaural tour hasn't really accrued alot of seniority. They probably still sit towards the back of the 10c sections etc... Allocating tickets on senority would screw over most people who joined up in the 10c during the seniority era. 10 years from now they could be fans for 20 years.. and where would their loyalty be. You don't really accrue seniority in the 10c because most people renew.
I did like the way the 2011 Canadian Tour as handled. After the website buckled under f5 they contracted tm to handle it. It was really smooth.
I did like the way the 2011 Canadian Tour as handled. After the website buckled under f5 they contracted tm to handle it. It was really smooth.
yep i agree,but ticketmaster got the fees..
why 10c to give up their product,while they found a smooth new way to sell their tckets vis their website???
some can complain,but 10c sell their tix anyway..and no one sweating...
and this thing is here to stay..its over a year now this method.i think its more than clear..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It's a rather moot argument. 99% of the arguments are to change the system in a way that works better for that individual 10c member.
If the 10c only has 1000 pairs. They still get allocated to 1000 10c members. The allocation system only impacts which 1000 it might be. People miss out in either system.. so its a moot argument which one is better overall, the argument only stands as which one is better for me
It's a rather moot argument. 99% of the arguments are to change the system in a way that works better for that individual 10c member.
If the 10c only has 1000 pairs. They still get allocated to 1000 10c members. The allocation system only impacts which 1000 it might be. People miss out in either system.. so its a moot argument which one is better overall, the argument only stands as which one is better for me
Except under F5 you knew if you had tickets for a show before you bought a second or more shows. In the case of the lottery you might put in for shows you wouldn't go to if you already got a different/local show. I can see scenarios where people put in a second/third choice they normally wouldn't buy. So potentially people could end up with tickets to shows they decide they won't travel to and eat the cost and prevent another 10c member from going.......
It's a rather moot argument. 99% of the arguments are to change the system in a way that works better for that individual 10c member.
If the 10c only has 1000 pairs. They still get allocated to 1000 10c members. The allocation system only impacts which 1000 it might be. People miss out in either system.. so its a moot argument which one is better overall, the argument only stands as which one is better for me
Except under F5 you knew if you had tickets for a show before you bought a second or more shows. In the case of the lottery you might put in for shows you wouldn't go to if you already got a different/local show. I can see scenarios where people put in a second/third choice they normally wouldn't buy. So potentially people could end up with tickets to shows they decide they won't travel to and eat the cost and prevent another 10c member from going.......
It's a good point, but I think the impact would be minimal? If you did you get 1st, 2nd, 3rd choice, you'd only get the 2nd/3rd choice if everyone who made those shows their 1st choice had gotten their tickets. I guess you run the risk of bumping other people who also voted it as 2nd/3rd choice.
I guess the 10c could initiate some kind of algorithm (since its automated) that stops allocating you tickets at a set point. Select your top shows and how many pairs you actually want. That wouldn't be too hard to implement would it?
It's a rather moot argument. 99% of the arguments are to change the system in a way that works better for that individual 10c member.
If the 10c only has 1000 pairs. They still get allocated to 1000 10c members. The allocation system only impacts which 1000 it might be. People miss out in either system.. so its a moot argument which one is better overall, the argument only stands as which one is better for me
Except under F5 you knew if you had tickets for a show before you bought a second or more shows. In the case of the lottery you might put in for shows you wouldn't go to if you already got a different/local show. I can see scenarios where people put in a second/third choice they normally wouldn't buy. So potentially people could end up with tickets to shows they decide they won't travel to and eat the cost and prevent another 10c member from going.......
How long after putting in for the lottery do you know if you've won tickets? And how long after that was the public sale last time?
please scrap the lottery. sell them on ticketmaster if you have to. if it costs 10 bucks more per ticket fine do it. even with the crashes it was like a lottery but you were the captain of your own ship. it is going to be very hard to go to multiple shows . remember people who go to multiple shows usually buy multiple merch.
Why put money in TM's pocket? Have you tried getting decent tix to a show on TM recently? Its a shitshow.
Hard enough to get the fan club tickets from TM in the first place.
People just need to accept that the band has chosen a method that will put tickets in more members hands.
And yes that means members will not get 10c tix for as many shows without partnering with another member. Its alright, I will still get to the shows I want to see.
Anyone advocating the f5 system is just looking to hoard more tickets for themselves, because in reality, that system was a complete and total failure.
please scrap the lottery. sell them on ticketmaster if you have to. if it costs 10 bucks more per ticket fine do it. even with the crashes it was like a lottery but you were the captain of your own ship. it is going to be very hard to go to multiple shows . remember people who go to multiple shows usually buy multiple merch.
Why put money in TM's pocket? Have you tried getting decent tix to a show on TM recently? Its a shitshow.
Hard enough to get the fan club tickets from TM in the first place.
People just need to accept that the band has chosen a method that will put tickets in more members hands.
And yes that means members will not get 10c tix for as many shows without partnering with another member. Its alright, I will still get to the shows I want to see.
Anyone advocating the f5 system is just looking to hoard more tickets for themselves, because in reality, that system was a complete and total failure.
perfectly said..thats exactly what is happening here.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
please scrap the lottery. sell them on ticketmaster if you have to. if it costs 10 bucks more per ticket fine do it. even with the crashes it was like a lottery but you were the captain of your own ship. it is going to be very hard to go to multiple shows . remember people who go to multiple shows usually buy multiple merch.
Why put money in TM's pocket? Have you tried getting decent tix to a show on TM recently? Its a shitshow.
Hard enough to get the fan club tickets from TM in the first place.
People just need to accept that the band has chosen a method that will put tickets in more members hands.
And yes that means members will not get 10c tix for as many shows without partnering with another member. Its alright, I will still get to the shows I want to see.
Anyone advocating the f5 system is just looking to hoard more tickets for themselves, because in reality, that system was a complete and total failure.
perfectly said..thats exactly what is happening here.
Why put money in TM's pocket? Have you tried getting decent tix to a show on TM recently? Its a shitshow.
Hard enough to get the fan club tickets from TM in the first place.
People just need to accept that the band has chosen a method that will put tickets in more members hands.
And yes that means members will not get 10c tix for as many shows without partnering with another member. Its alright, I will still get to the shows I want to see.
Anyone advocating the f5 system is just looking to hoard more tickets for themselves, because in reality, that system was a complete and total failure.
perfectly said..thats exactly what is happening here.
thanks D, its really not that complicated
i know..at the begging i thought some just dont understand,cos they didnt know,or read how things will work....now i know they just dont want to understand
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Sometimes, I think some of you are just stoking the fire with the lottery vs. F5 thing. It is OK to not like the lottery, and to keep posting to argue in favor of it to every post is not really accomplishing anything. Or helping the matter.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
I did like the way the 2011 Canadian Tour as handled. After the website buckled under f5 they contracted tm to handle it. It was really smooth.
It went smooth for me during that F5 day during the Canadian '11 tour. I was 5 for 5 with the 10club store ticket sale. Montreal - Hamilton. When they contracted Ticketmaster for their 10club presale a few day's later, it was really smooth for all my friends who tried & scored.
please scrap the lottery. sell them on ticketmaster if you have to. if it costs 10 bucks more per ticket fine do it. even with the crashes it was like a lottery but you were the captain of your own ship. it is going to be very hard to go to multiple shows . remember people who go to multiple shows usually buy multiple merch.
Why put money in TM's pocket? Have you tried getting decent tix to a show on TM recently? Its a shitshow.
Hard enough to get the fan club tickets from TM in the first place.
People just need to accept that the band has chosen a method that will put tickets in more members hands.
And yes that means members will not get 10c tix for as many shows without partnering with another member. Its alright, I will still get to the shows I want to see.
Anyone advocating the f5 system is just looking to hoard more tickets for themselves, because in reality, that system was a complete and total failure.
F5 sytem was great. I had no problem to get tix. With the lottery I failed
With F5 I have it in my own hands.
With the lottery I need good luck.
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I started this thread and have to say, I got everything I wanted for this upcoming tour GA for San Diego and LA 1 and my reserved tickets for NY 1. Also got my tickets for Wrigley. Thank you 10 club, see you at the shows. Hope everyone else gor what they wanted.
People just need to accept that the band has chosen a method that will put tickets in more members hands.
And yes that means members will not get 10c tix for as many shows without partnering with another member. Its alright, I will still get to the shows I want to see.
Anyone advocating the f5 system is just looking to hoard more tickets for themselves, because in reality, that system was a complete and total failure.
People just need to accept that many people dislike the lottery, and are free to voice their opinion. We have a lottery now because of YEARS of bitching about F5. Where you on your high horse telling people then "the band has chosen a method"? And as for this fallacy that the lottery puts more tickets in more member’s hands... this is completely BS. First you have an increase in members with multiple membership... that doesn't help. You have an increase in scalpers... that doesn't help. You have people who win tickets colluding with others who won tickets to trade their extras... that doesn't help. People putting in "long shot" entries, and making the trip if they happen to win... that doesn't help. How can anyone believe that the lottery actually helps more members get tickets?
Anyone advocating the lottery is simply looking out for what's best for themselves. They are lazy and don't want to put any effort in to getting tickets. Plain and simple lazy selfishness. Meanwhile the F5 advocates want to put in effort to achieve their tickets... and if someone is hitting F5 long after others have given up... they deserve those damn tickets! So in your world, someone who works more hours than you, or works a harder job, just wants to hoard money for themselves... but in your eyes they don't deserve more money? :fp:
While F5 had one or two bumps, it was a largely successful system. The lottery so far has been a complete and utter failure. If people open their mind, and truly want to understand, it's not that hard to grasp.
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or better yet....
find a company that handle ticket sales since clearly the 10c can't
and what logic is that multiple merch??fans go to one show only will not buy merch cos they score tic only for one show??who said that if u go to more than one show 10c merch table will have better sales..??
maybe another fan that never score before,now that he did score tix will spent a fortune cos he is happy will see the band on a high demand show and will buy 150 shirts that u and me will not..
how many shows u go,or score tix,has nothing to do how many merch they sell..others are fans too you know..
and maybe by going to just one show make you spent more money than usual for merch.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Tour dates to be announced= 99.9% of the people here will get their tickets. No problem.
Plus people wont be able to cut their own throats, going for GA.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
you know....let....democracy decide.....
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i'd be down with that.
F5 never really gave a benefit to seniority. That being said I don't think any system should. The turnover in 10c memberships has been low since seniority came in for ticket allocation. I would imagine anyone that joint after the Binaural tour hasn't really accrued alot of seniority. They probably still sit towards the back of the 10c sections etc... Allocating tickets on senority would screw over most people who joined up in the 10c during the seniority era. 10 years from now they could be fans for 20 years.. and where would their loyalty be. You don't really accrue seniority in the 10c because most people renew.
I did like the way the 2011 Canadian Tour as handled. After the website buckled under f5 they contracted tm to handle it. It was really smooth.
why 10c to give up their product,while they found a smooth new way to sell their tckets vis their website???
some can complain,but 10c sell their tix anyway..and no one sweating...
and this thing is here to stay..its over a year now this method.i think its more than clear..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
My thoughts exactly.
If the 10c only has 1000 pairs. They still get allocated to 1000 10c members. The allocation system only impacts which 1000 it might be. People miss out in either system.. so its a moot argument which one is better overall, the argument only stands as which one is better for me
Except under F5 you knew if you had tickets for a show before you bought a second or more shows. In the case of the lottery you might put in for shows you wouldn't go to if you already got a different/local show. I can see scenarios where people put in a second/third choice they normally wouldn't buy. So potentially people could end up with tickets to shows they decide they won't travel to and eat the cost and prevent another 10c member from going.......
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It's a good point, but I think the impact would be minimal? If you did you get 1st, 2nd, 3rd choice, you'd only get the 2nd/3rd choice if everyone who made those shows their 1st choice had gotten their tickets. I guess you run the risk of bumping other people who also voted it as 2nd/3rd choice.
I guess the 10c could initiate some kind of algorithm (since its automated) that stops allocating you tickets at a set point. Select your top shows and how many pairs you actually want. That wouldn't be too hard to implement would it?
How long after putting in for the lottery do you know if you've won tickets? And how long after that was the public sale last time?
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Hard enough to get the fan club tickets from TM in the first place.
People just need to accept that the band has chosen a method that will put tickets in more members hands.
And yes that means members will not get 10c tix for as many shows without partnering with another member. Its alright, I will still get to the shows I want to see.
Anyone advocating the f5 system is just looking to hoard more tickets for themselves, because in reality, that system was a complete and total failure.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It went smooth for me during that F5 day during the Canadian '11 tour. I was 5 for 5 with the 10club store ticket sale. Montreal - Hamilton. When they contracted Ticketmaster for their 10club presale a few day's later, it was really smooth for all my friends who tried & scored.
With F5 I have it in my own hands.
With the lottery I need good luck.
People just need to accept that many people dislike the lottery, and are free to voice their opinion. We have a lottery now because of YEARS of bitching about F5. Where you on your high horse telling people then "the band has chosen a method"? And as for this fallacy that the lottery puts more tickets in more member’s hands... this is completely BS. First you have an increase in members with multiple membership... that doesn't help. You have an increase in scalpers... that doesn't help. You have people who win tickets colluding with others who won tickets to trade their extras... that doesn't help. People putting in "long shot" entries, and making the trip if they happen to win... that doesn't help. How can anyone believe that the lottery actually helps more members get tickets?
Anyone advocating the lottery is simply looking out for what's best for themselves. They are lazy and don't want to put any effort in to getting tickets. Plain and simple lazy selfishness. Meanwhile the F5 advocates want to put in effort to achieve their tickets... and if someone is hitting F5 long after others have given up... they deserve those damn tickets! So in your world, someone who works more hours than you, or works a harder job, just wants to hoard money for themselves... but in your eyes they don't deserve more money? :fp:
While F5 had one or two bumps, it was a largely successful system. The lottery so far has been a complete and utter failure. If people open their mind, and truly want to understand, it's not that hard to grasp.