***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2013 Thread***

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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    PJSerf wrote:
    PJSerf wrote:
    I wish it was Amaro that was gone, but I think everyone knew this was coming.
    Yo serf!!! How ya been man? And I agree Amaro should have been fired.

    Doing good... living the dream in Langhorne! Hope all is well with you!

    It's clear that the Phillies were willing to let him get his 1,000th win, and then it was endgame. Not sure there was any harm in letting him coach out the rest of the year.
    That's awesome. I just bought a house in Stonybrook a few months ago. Having my 1st baby in Nov. Next week is my last APA match for a while as well. I gotta take time off with the boy coming. Will you be at both shows?

    The time frame makes no sense imo. But it had to happen sometime I guess. Next year they'll have some money opened up, so will see what happens.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    The Fixer wrote:
    Way more than just a nice guy. But I won't speak for his baseball knowledge. I'll let the baseball players who do recommend his talent speak for itself.

    Playoffs are a crapshoot. It's that simple. A .551 winning percentage speaks for itself.

    I don't disagree that the playoffs are a crapshoot, but I do disagree with a lot of the starting pitching decisions he made in huge playoff games (as I have noted over the years). I do think he cost them some playoff games during his tenure.

    All in all, I'd grade him a C. Yes, he did bring a title here, which I will always respect him for, but I think he kind of sold this team short by being such a moron.

    I feel really bad for sandberg. As long as Ruben Minaya Jr is still around he's in a no-win situation.

    I'm just happy the phillies did something. Hopefully this is the start of many dominoes falling

    They lost in 2009, 2010, 2011 because the offense failed to show up more than the ineptitude of a manager. I'll take the majority over specificity. And the majority of the problem was the offense being shut down in big spots. They had plenty of time to win all three of those series without the what-if's of the pitching.

    2009 all goes back to game 5, not game 6.

    2010 comes down to failed offense, and being burned by a scorching aged offense of SF (getting hot in the playoffs at the right time because there's no reason why that SF team beat them as much as they did. And tell Madson not to throw another homer to Uribe (pretty sure that was Uribe) at a huge spot in the clincher). Plus, it doesn't help when your ace is burned by Cody Ross and other randoms. You got beat by the team that won the World Series. That's it.

    2011 comes down to Cliff Lee and a failed offense.

    There's a reason the best team in baseball doesn't win the championship almost consistently every year since the inception of the wildcard. And it's complete and utter randomness.

    My point is blame is more to go towards the players than the manager. There's a reason they are called a manager and not a coach.

    Saying a guy stumbles into a great team is lunacy, especially over an entended period of time. Saying they "should" have won two or more three titles over that time is just hilarious when I hear it. I don't think anyone realizes how fucking hard it is to win multiple titles, let alone one.

    I judge a manager over seasons not 5 or 7 games of a series. Something that happens over a long course of a time is a constant, not an exception.
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Well said JP.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    At any rate - none of it matters now.

    I liked the Sandberg hiring at the time for the future. So on with the future....
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    Way more than just a nice guy. But I won't speak for his baseball knowledge. I'll let the baseball players who do recommend his talent speak for itself.

    Playoffs are a crapshoot. It's that simple. A .551 winning percentage speaks for itself.

    I don't disagree that the playoffs are a crapshoot, but I do disagree with a lot of the starting pitching decisions he made in huge playoff games (as I have noted over the years). I do think he cost them some playoff games during his tenure.

    All in all, I'd grade him a C. Yes, he did bring a title here, which I will always respect him for, but I think he kind of sold this team short by being such a moron.

    I feel really bad for sandberg. As long as Ruben Minaya Jr is still around he's in a no-win situation.

    I'm just happy the phillies did something. Hopefully this is the start of many dominoes falling

    They lost in 2009, 2010, 2011 because the offense failed to show up more than the ineptitude of a manager. I'll take the majority over specificity. And the majority of the problem was the offense being shut down in big spots. They had plenty of time to win all three of those series without the what-if's of the pitching.

    2009 all goes back to game 5, not game 6.

    2010 comes down to failed offense, and being burned by a scorching aged offense of SF (getting hot in the playoffs at the right time because there's no reason why that SF team beat them as much as they did. And tell Madson not to throw another homer to Uribe (pretty sure that was Uribe) at a huge spot in the clincher). Plus, it doesn't help when your ace is burned by Cody Ross and other randoms. You got beat by the team that won the World Series. That's it.

    2011 comes down to Cliff Lee and a failed offense.

    There's a reason the best team in baseball doesn't win the championship almost consistently every year since the inception of the wildcard. And it's complete and utter randomness.

    My point is blame is more to go towards the players than the manager. There's a reason they are called a manager and not a coach.

    Saying a guy stumbles into a great team is lunacy, especially over an entended period of time. Saying they "should" have won two or more three titles over that time is just hilarious when I hear it. I don't think anyone realizes how fucking hard it is to win multiple titles, let alone one.

    I judge a manager over seasons not 5 or 7 games of a series. Something that happens over a long course of a time is a constant, not an exception.

    2009 - ryan howard being ryan howard...and inexplicably starting pedro martinez TWICE in the WS (phils would obviously lose both of those games)

    2010 - ibanez dropping the ball ross hit in first inning of game one (when doc continued to beast with a pulled groin -- god I love that dude). Cost phils the game and set the tone for the series. Honorable mention to game 6 when the phils had sanchez on the ropes (game where utley strolled halfway to the mound and benches cleared after the beast got HBP), then only scored two runs in the inning...and didn't score rest of the game (lincecum out of pen). brutal

    2011 - starting oswalt, who had nothing left, in game 4...which meant lee only pitched once in series. I remember freaking about this prior to game 4...then after...then after game 5. One of the dumbest decisions in philly playoff sports history going with oswalt over halladay (short rest)/lee in games 4/5. Even though they won 100 games that year I thought the phils were overrated...but they did lose to the team who won it all, so who knows if they would have gone on a run? manuel made sure we never found out.

    Do you really think manuel was a good manager? Because he definitely wasn't. It took him 5 years to figure out what a double switch is.

    http://crashburnalley.com/2013/06/08/ch ... other-win/

    It's probably not right to throw dirt or glorify the guy. He was a nice guy, bad strategist, below avg manager who won with good players. I give him credit for winning in 2008, but I'm glad he's gone.

    Now put amaro in the guillatine and get this thing pointed back in the right direction
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Harry made these types of seasons bearable. Wheels and Mr Met just make things worse
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710
    Was at nicks roast beef at 20th and Jackson when the Manuel news went down and amaro pretended to cry. Probably the best place to be. Fucking hilarious
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Was at nicks roast beef at 20th and Jackson when the Manuel news went down and amaro pretended to cry. Probably the best place to be. Fucking hilarious

    Haha. That press conference perfectly sums up this organization. Amaro is such a loser

    David Murphy is phenomenal. He's a breath of fresh air...unlike turds like salisbury, stark, brookover, and the rest. He's too good for philly.com...I think he'll be scooped up by a national site soon. Anyway, his thoughts about the flaws in the organizational philosophy are exactly the same as mine. He just presents it in a more eloquent way than I do.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phi ... _team.html
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    okay, now it's time to be rational. here's the bottom line: we've only seen ONE of these in the last 30 years-in any sport. O.N.E.

    world fucking champions.

    THANK YOU, CHARLIE

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    :clap:

    i'm throwing in one of my 08 dvd''s today, god damn it.

    go
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    meant to post this last week. for those that utilize this area's vast bike paths, this will be a nice little addition next year. small but nice:

    http://articles.philly.com/2013-08-12/n ... aved-trail
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    Best "heading off into the sunset" photo ever:

    http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18x883i ... xlarge.jpg
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    Best "heading off into the sunset" photo ever:

    http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18x883i ... xlarge.jpg

    my mom teared up when my brother showed her that. :lol:

    i liked the story of him getting a standing ovation when leaving maggiano's the night he was fired. then still showing up to his autograph thing yesterday. fucking class act all the way.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    Best "heading off into the sunset" photo ever:

    http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18x883i ... xlarge.jpg

    my mom teared up when my brother showed her that. :lol:

    i liked the story of him getting a standing ovation when leaving maggiano's the night he was fired. then still showing up to his autograph thing yesterday. fucking class act all the way.

    The Wawa bag is what makes it.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2

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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,752
    finally we scored a run in the series! :corn:
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
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    5/1/16- NYC
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    9/2/18- Boston, MA
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    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    phils have the worst run differential in the NL (yes, worse than the marlins). Only the Astros have a worse differential in all of MLB.

    Also, hamels is a beast

    And lastly, if manuel was at maggianos after he was let go that is the only sad thing about his firing.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,752
    The Fixer wrote:
    phils have the worst run differential in the NL (yes, worse than the marlins). Only the Astros have a worse differential in all of MLB.

    Also, hamels is a beast

    And lastly, if manuel was at maggianos after he was let go that is the only sad thing about his firing.

    worst in the NL? I knew it was bad, but geez.
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
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    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    edited August 2013

    worst in the NL? I knew it was bad, but geez.

    exact opposite situation we were in just 2 years ago. how long ago does 102 wins feel at this point?

    chooch batting 2nd tonight seems....strange
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,752
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    :lol: isn't 90's retro night coming up?

    nice comeback win tonight.
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
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    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,752
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    :lol: isn't 90's retro night coming up?

    nice comeback win tonight.

    retro night is tomorrow. Looking good tonight.
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    mccarthy somehow takes all of the enjoyment out of walk off wins.

    god he's terrible
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,752
    The Fixer wrote:
    mccarthy somehow takes all of the enjoyment out of walk off wins.

    god he's terrible

    i didn't mind it too much. Still fun to watch back to back walk off wins :thumbup:
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    mccarthy somehow takes all of the enjoyment out of walk off wins.

    god he's terrible

    i didn't mind it too much. Still fun to watch back to back walk off wins :thumbup:

    eh. I just want them to lose every game so amaro gets fired quicker.

    but it's the phillies, so he will be around for the duration...

    when do the flyers start? looking forward to watching a team with a legit chance to win something
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Fixer wrote:
    mccarthy somehow takes all of the enjoyment out of walk off wins.

    god he's terrible

    i didn't mind it too much. Still fun to watch back to back walk off wins :thumbup:
    Either did I.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    mccarthy somehow takes all of the enjoyment out of walk off wins.

    god he's terrible

    i didn't mind it too much. Still fun to watch back to back walk off wins :thumbup:
    Either did I.

    we know you loved it. you love amaro and all of his shitty moves
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    I think Ruf already matched Delmon Young in Hr's. It was so nice that we wasted half the year with that stiff.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I think Ruf already matched Delmon Young in Hr's. It was so nice that we wasted half the year with that stiff.

    dude, you said that you 'loved' the delmon young signing. WTF????????
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,752
    The Fixer wrote:
    I think Ruf already matched Delmon Young in Hr's. It was so nice that we wasted half the year with that stiff.

    dude, you said that you 'loved' the delmon young signing. WTF????????

    :corn:
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    ummm, no


    Re: ***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2013 Thread***
    Can't wait for tonight. If we stay healthy I truly think this team can win 90-95 games. Revere is leading off,Charlie finally made a good move!!!!
    by jamminpearls
    01 Apr 2013 14:54

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    Topic: ***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2013 Thread***
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    RE: d young signing
    :lol::lol::lol::lol:



    Re: ***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***
    jamminpearls wrote:
    For 750K I love the move.

    thefixer wrote:
    of course you do


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