I wouldn't mind if both of them had a little more bite and clarity/separation. And there's a lushness with the music, especially with Yield that I don't think is expressed at much as it could be with a really great master.
I try to check the sound quality with reviews and such and it's always reassuring to backtrack through your collection and you read positive reviews of a record you think is great sounding. Luckily, most of the bands I'm into put out quality stuff. Sadly, and I don't think it's horrible, I think PJ is on the lower end of the scale as far as whats in my collection.
snootchie bootchies, MedozK. I hear you. it can drive you insane sometimes.
also, buck
I agree... especially the remaster/reissues... they were painful to listen to.
Listened to the remasters once and that was it. Very disappointing. Hopefully they don't do the same brickwalling to No Code or Yield...that would be TRAGIC!
Yup. I basically never play Ten and Vs. since I only have the reissues and they sound like shit. They are just missing something - the regular versions as well as the remasters. There is no oomf to them. :(
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I have an original copy of Ten which sounds great compared to the reissue. I have a reissue of Vitalogy, but my local record store has a used original (single disc), you think I should see if it's still there if theres a marked difference in sound quality?
The original Vitalogy, i think, sounds better and you don't have to flip a needless second record. I wouldn't pay over $50 for the original.
No question on Ten, I think the original Ten sounds WAY better than the remaster.
A local store had an original Vitalogy on sale a few months ago for $50. I had recently bought the remastered version so I didn't buy it. At the time it felt like the right decision. I was trying not to waste money. Now.........it's been bugging me for weeks that I let that go.
I've never really done a side-by-side comparison of Ten/Vs./Vitalogy since the original pressings I have I bought used as a bundle and they aren't in the most tip-top of quality and are somewhat noisy. I do however really like the different mix of Ten so I play that record more.
I've done a side by side of the OPs and the reissues. I think OP of 10 sounds better, Vs I can't tell the difference and the original Vitalogy may be a bit more dynamic because the reissue is a bit louder.
But if you dind't have the originals the represses are fine and sound very good.
What are three best sounding presses of dark side of the moon, wish you were here, and the wall?
I have the 2011 reissued and the 30th anniversary dark side, but is there better?
1998: Cleveland
2000: Cincinnati, Columbus
2003: Cleveland, Columbus
2004: Toledo
2006: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Gorge Night 1
2008: Washington D.C.
2009: Chicago Night 1, Seattle Night 1, Philadelphia Night 3, Philadelphia Night 4
2010: Columbus, Indianapolis, Cleveland
2011: Detroit EV, Chicago 1 EV
2012: Atlanta
2013: Chicago, Pittsburgh
2014: Cincinnati
The original Thriller sounds incredible. And every time I spin it I am proud of how well I treated it growing up, lol. It is in perfect condition even though I handled it and played it 100s of times as a kid. It is actually the very first record that i personally ever owned - got it as a gift when I was 6, and remember like it was yesterday how excited I was.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
When you are looking for records, how do you know which pressing/version they are…it seems like that information may or may not be given. Or if they are even from CD or original analog recording. Albums pressed overseas mean anything? It is just zoo hard sometimes to pick out a vinyl, hoping it is going to sound good…but I guess thats why we have this thread!
When you are looking for records, how do you know which pressing/version they are…it seems like that information may or may not be given. Or if they are even from CD or original analog recording. Albums pressed overseas mean anything? It is just zoo hard sometimes to pick out a vinyl, hoping it is going to sound good…but I guess thats why we have this thread!
Research is key. There are lots of informational music forums all over the Internet. One pressing may sound great, while another of the same record sounds terrible.
If you are buying used records, you should always have an idea of the runout/matrix information that you want. The runouts of records usually tell you everything you need to know.
Now with new records, its more of a crap shoot. Just always do your research and read reviews. To me with new records I am looking at who did the mastering, who cut the lacquers, and where it was pressed. These 3 things are very important to me.
Sooo take Radiohead The Bends or OK Computer...where do you start. Any place that lists these items describe the album itself rather than tell information about the vinyl being made. There has to be a resource out there to utilize??
Sooo take Radiohead The Bends or OK Computer...where do you start. Any place that lists these items describe the album itself rather than tell information about the vinyl being made. There has to be a resource out there to utilize??
I use Discogs, that gives all the information I need on each vinyl release I'm interested in, just match the record barcode numbers to the list of formats a desired album is in and then it should tell you all the info you need to know. Great website in my opinion.
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I try to check the sound quality with reviews and such and it's always reassuring to backtrack through your collection and you read positive reviews of a record you think is great sounding. Luckily, most of the bands I'm into put out quality stuff. Sadly, and I don't think it's horrible, I think PJ is on the lower end of the scale as far as whats in my collection.
Yup. I basically never play Ten and Vs. since I only have the reissues and they sound like shit. They are just missing something - the regular versions as well as the remasters. There is no oomf to them. :(
No question on Ten, I think the original Ten sounds WAY better than the remaster.
A local store had an original Vitalogy on sale a few months ago for $50. I had recently bought the remastered version so I didn't buy it. At the time it felt like the right decision. I was trying not to waste money. Now.........it's been bugging me for weeks that I let that go.
But if you dind't have the originals the represses are fine and sound very good.
This is great news!! Got both his releases last year. Hoping he does the rest. Would love Folker and Come Feel me Tremble on Vinyl...
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab
The sound of this 2LP Vinyl is fantastic... Recommended!
(Fucked up quotes)
Oh yes, indeed. I have one if the orginal pressings of Blood on the Tracks, but have the MFSL version of the Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, and it's awesome.
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
I have the 2011 reissued and the 30th anniversary dark side, but is there better?
2000: Cincinnati, Columbus
2003: Cleveland, Columbus
2004: Toledo
2006: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Gorge Night 1
2008: Washington D.C.
2009: Chicago Night 1, Seattle Night 1, Philadelphia Night 3, Philadelphia Night 4
2010: Columbus, Indianapolis, Cleveland
2011: Detroit EV, Chicago 1 EV
2012: Atlanta
2013: Chicago, Pittsburgh
2014: Cincinnati
Those 2011 releases are ok, but my original presses of WYWH and The Wall are vastly superior. It's widely believed that they are digital sourced.
And every time I spin it I am proud of how well I treated it growing up, lol. It is in perfect condition even though I handled it and played it 100s of times as a kid. It is actually the very first record that i personally ever owned - got it as a gift when I was 6, and remember like it was yesterday how excited I was.
It is just zoo hard sometimes to pick out a vinyl, hoping it is going to sound good…but I guess thats why we have this thread!
If you are buying used records, you should always have an idea of the runout/matrix information that you want. The runouts of records usually tell you everything you need to know.
Now with new records, its more of a crap shoot. Just always do your research and read reviews. To me with new records I am looking at who did the mastering, who cut the lacquers, and where it was pressed. These 3 things are very important to me.
Not so great - PJ Vault 4 - (pops like a bowl of rice crispies)
ps... my understanding about optimal max length of an LP side is 18 minutes...
"When is an LP side too long?
When it's over 18 minutes.
Steve Hoffman,Nov 15, 2010"
taken from an earlier link in this thread