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But it sounds excellent when the volume is turned up (and not a lot more. I listen to most of my records on 40, and I turn LB up to 44). So it can't be a bad pressing if the sound quality is very good, even if you do have to turn it up a bit more. Also, I'm talking replacement vinyl. No pops or anything. It sounds perfect.DewieCox said:The low volume on LB is a sign of a bad pressing. My original copy had a few minor pops, but I had to crank that bitch up around 40 on my receiver. Most vinyl ranges from 30-35 and my replacement falls in that range.
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I think with this example it is that simple. I had one pressing, from a batch that was known to be a bad pressing and when I got the replacement, the volume issue was fixed.hinsey21 said:
It's not really as simple as that. I have some mfsl pressings that are some of the most low volume records I own and they are certainly not bad pressings. mfsl records in particular are cut at lower volume to minimize inner groove distortion, and overall distortion and saturation. So just because it's a quiet pressing does automatically mean its a sign of a bad pressing.DewieCox said:The low volume on LB is a sign of a bad pressing. My original copy had a few minor pops, but I had to crank that bitch up around 40 on my receiver. Most vinyl ranges from 30-35 and my replacement falls in that range.
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My replacement is the one that's a bit quiet, not one of the fucked up originals (which were also quiet, but also have pops). The second pressing. Actually, I got 4 replacements total (2 black, 2 red), and they all play perfectly, but are all on the quiet side.DewieCox said:
I think with this example it is that simple. I had one pressing, from a batch that was known to be a bad pressing and when I got the replacement, the volume issue was fixed.hinsey21 said:
It's not really as simple as that. I have some mfsl pressings that are some of the most low volume records I own and they are certainly not bad pressings. mfsl records in particular are cut at lower volume to minimize inner groove distortion, and overall distortion and saturation. So just because it's a quiet pressing does automatically mean its a sign of a bad pressing.DewieCox said:The low volume on LB is a sign of a bad pressing. My original copy had a few minor pops, but I had to crank that bitch up around 40 on my receiver. Most vinyl ranges from 30-35 and my replacement falls in that range.
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Yep, the replacement copy I have was actually given to me by Soul. I gotta pump mine to 30 or below to get a good volume on it. Unless they decided to just send her crappy copies in the mail, which in that case, I blame her!PJ_Soul said:
My replacement is the one that's a bit quiet, not one of the fucked up originals (which were also quiet, but also have pops). The second pressing. Actually, I got 4 replacements total (2 black, 2 red), and they all play perfectly, but are all on the quiet side.DewieCox said:
I think with this example it is that simple. I had one pressing, from a batch that was known to be a bad pressing and when I got the replacement, the volume issue was fixed.hinsey21 said:
It's not really as simple as that. I have some mfsl pressings that are some of the most low volume records I own and they are certainly not bad pressings. mfsl records in particular are cut at lower volume to minimize inner groove distortion, and overall distortion and saturation. So just because it's a quiet pressing does automatically mean its a sign of a bad pressing.DewieCox said:The low volume on LB is a sign of a bad pressing. My original copy had a few minor pops, but I had to crank that bitch up around 40 on my receiver. Most vinyl ranges from 30-35 and my replacement falls in that range.
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reesdog said:
Original: U2 - Achtung Baby
This record sounds really good, also nice that it's on one disc and not spread out over two like most releases seem to be these day's. Just a nice clear, warm sound that really shows off the production of the album and instruments.
Achtung Baby should have been on two LPs. LPs mostly sound awful when then go over 45 mins on a single LP. They pressed on one LP to save cash
"It was quite popular to release what should have been double albums as single LP's in the late 80's/early 90's, when the record companies wanted people to buy CD's instead."
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Glen Hansard Drive All Night EP....that sounds amazing.Tres Mts- 3/16/2011
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Yes, it does! I was pleasantly surprised by how nice this EP is, both for sound quality and music. Really beautiful.thefixer9 said:Glen Hansard Drive All Night EP....that sounds amazing.
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You've got that right!PJ_Soul said:
Yes, it does! I was pleasantly surprised by how nice this EP is, both for sound quality and music. Really beautiful.thefixer9 said:Glen Hansard Drive All Night EP....that sounds amazing.
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I don't really agree, the one LP for this sounds fine to these ears, sounds great in fact. I have loads of one record albums from this era and they sound really good mostly.Philip_Ireland said:reesdog said:Original: U2 - Achtung Baby
This record sounds really good, also nice that it's on one disc and not spread out over two like most releases seem to be these day's. Just a nice clear, warm sound that really shows off the production of the album and instruments.
Achtung Baby should have been on two LPs. LPs mostly sound awful when then go over 45 mins on a single LP. They pressed on one LP to save cash
"It was quite popular to release what should have been double albums as single LP's in the late 80's/early 90's, when the record companies wanted people to buy CD's instead."
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/at-what-length-is-an-album-too-long-to-fit-well-sonically-on-1-lp.218741/A wop bop a loo bop a lop bam boom.0 -
I prefer albums to be on one disc. I find any difference there may be when it's split between two is completely negligible (unless, perhaps, you have a $20,000 set up or something). I have many GREAT sounding albums that are on one disc. I think this 2 disc thing is pure audiophile snobbery. I mean, if an album is long, that's one thing - it wouldn't all fit on one disc obviously - but putting a standard length album (like any PJ studio album) on two disc is simply a pain in the ass, and I hear NO difference in sound quality IMO. I really can't stand that all these reissues coming out now for bands are on two discs when the original that sounded just great was on one. That's idiotic I think.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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I love that album. Although mine is super tight getting it out of the plastic.smarchee said:
this sounds really good
Long shot I know, but did you happen to know anyone with the Rock N Roll murder cover? I've been looking to track one down at a reasonable price but haven't had much luck. I believe it was the European release that had it.
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reesdog said:
I don't really agree, the one LP for this sounds fine to these ears, sounds great in fact. I have loads of one record albums from this era and they sound really good mostly.Philip_Ireland said:reesdog said:Original: U2 - Achtung Baby
This record sounds really good, also nice that it's on one disc and not spread out over two like most releases seem to be these day's. Just a nice clear, warm sound that really shows off the production of the album and instruments.
Achtung Baby should have been on two LPs. LPs mostly sound awful when then go over 45 mins on a single LP. They pressed on one LP to save cash
"It was quite popular to release what should have been double albums as single LP's in the late 80's/early 90's, when the record companies wanted people to buy CD's instead."
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/at-what-length-is-an-album-too-long-to-fit-well-sonically-on-1-lp.218741/</blockquote
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Is one of the reasons LB is so quiet that they tried to fit the absolute maximum amount onto each side? I had previously heard that 22 min was the max on a standard 12" 33 rpm record, and was surprised when I saw LB fit a couple minutes extra on each side. While I love the sound, I've also noticed that sometimes the drums seem a little low in the mix. Could this also be related?
The more stuff you fit onto the vinyl, the closer the tracks have to be to each other and therefore the smaller the waveform has to be cut. Smaller waveform = quieter music and less room for bass.
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No, that's not the reason it's so quiet. Because I have loads of albums that are that long and on one disc, and none of those are quiet. I think it's quiet because of the way it was mastered.aurynsdad said:Is one of the reasons LB is so quiet that they tried to fit the absolute maximum amount onto each side? I had previously heard that 22 min was the max on a standard 12" 33 rpm record, and was surprised when I saw LB fit a couple minutes extra on each side. While I love the sound, I've also noticed that sometimes the drums seem a little low in the mix. Could this also be related?
The more stuff you fit onto the vinyl, the closer the tracks have to be to each other and therefore the smaller the waveform has to be cut. Smaller waveform = quieter music and less room for bass.
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Thanks. I should contribute an album to the discussion- I haven't heard Robin Trower's "Bridge of Sighs" any other way, but it sure sounds amazing on vinyl!10/31/93 Berkeley (Baba!) • 10/1/94 Bridge School • 9/16/96 Seattle (In My Tree!) • 10/19/96 & 10/20/96 B. School (Alt Corduroy & Alt Porch!) • 10/25/03 B. School • 6/1/03 Mtnview (Crazy Mary! You Are!) • 11/29/13 Portland (All Those Yesterdays! Even Flow!) • 10/25/14 Bridge School (Rain! Fuckin Up! TOTD!) • 5/13/22 Oakland (had to leave early, but W.M.A.! Immortality!) • 5/13/24 Sacramento (Light Years! Picture in a Frame!) • 5/25/24 Bottle Rock (Last Kiss! Maybe It’s Time w/Bradley Cooper!)0
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I actually like when they do that...to me...that's just more vinyl.... =P~PJ_Soul said:I prefer albums to be on one disc. I find any difference there may be when it's split between two is completely negligible (unless, perhaps, you have a $20,000 set up or something). I have many GREAT sounding albums that are on one disc. I think this 2 disc thing is pure audiophile snobbery. I mean, if an album is long, that's one thing - it wouldn't all fit on one disc obviously - but putting a standard length album (like any PJ studio album) on two disc is simply a pain in the ass, and I hear NO difference in sound quality IMO. I really can't stand that all these reissues coming out now for bands are on two discs when the original that sounded just great was on one. That's idiotic I think.
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Sounds awesome!!!Dr. Delight said:
Yeah, its basically all of the different instrumentals combined with the most memorable dialogue scenes. Probably a must-have for die-hard Halloween fans really(obviously here...duh).PJ_Soul said:
So what is the music? Creepy instrumental stuff? What am I forgetting about the soundtrack that makes people want to buy and listen to it?Dr. Delight said:
awesome....I ordered the other one BEFORE they made that one available for general sale. F'n Mondo!BIGDaddyWil said:Dr. Delight said:
Forgot to add, this pressing runs at 45rpmBIGDaddyWil said:
I will be purchasing this soon! Thanks!!!Dr. Delight said:Just plopped down Mondo's recently released Halloween Soundtrack. Sound is incredible. Highly Highly recommended.
Hey Dr. Delight, I've got a copy of the splatter colored vinyl on the way!
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That looks great in person compared to the internet pic.BIGDaddyWil said:
Sounds awesome!!!Dr. Delight said:
Yeah, its basically all of the different instrumentals combined with the most memorable dialogue scenes. Probably a must-have for die-hard Halloween fans really(obviously here...duh).PJ_Soul said:
So what is the music? Creepy instrumental stuff? What am I forgetting about the soundtrack that makes people want to buy and listen to it?Dr. Delight said:
awesome....I ordered the other one BEFORE they made that one available for general sale. F'n Mondo!BIGDaddyWil said:Dr. Delight said:
Forgot to add, this pressing runs at 45rpmBIGDaddyWil said:
I will be purchasing this soon! Thanks!!!Dr. Delight said:Just plopped down Mondo's recently released Halloween Soundtrack. Sound is incredible. Highly Highly recommended.
Hey Dr. Delight, I've got a copy of the splatter colored vinyl on the way!
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