No ma'am, I won't register my guns

Guitar92player

catefrances wrote:

as far as im concerned if you want to take advantage of the 2nd amendment then you should be responsible enough to register your weapons. whats the big deal anyway. you register your car and your dog cause youre a responsible car owner and responsible dog owner.. heck you even register as a parent when you register the birth of your child/ren... so whats the difference when it comes to guns???

Because people think the big bad government will come and take them away. :roll:

(just teasing, don't bite my head off. lol)

It all comes back to the Constitution.

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PJ_Soul wrote:

pandora wrote:

What is the purpose of registering guns again? What is thought to be accomplished here?
Is it so the government knows who has a gun and who doesn't? Can this information
be made public? How did that info get out there for the world to see?

We know the people who are living violent lives, criminals, won't register their guns.
I am more in favor of the local permit laws which already exist.

It is very useful information for police investigations. Also, I think it would be useful and would make me feel more comfortable to have it on record when people are collecting huge numbers of firearms, and what kinds, because just because someone is registering their gun, doesn't mean they are responsible, law abiding people (if they are, wonderful - nothing for them or anyone else to worry about). And for criminals who wouldn't register, many crimes are committed with stolen or sold guns. If they can find the original owner of the gun used in a crime, they may be able to connect the dots and find the criminal... or the ones who got the weapon to the criminal. I can think of many reasons why registering guns could come in handy, but no reasons as to why they shouldn't be registered.

Nice post and I agree....we have to register a car to show to whom it belongs to right. So why can't the same be done with guns and what difference does it make if registration for guns is across the country instead of on the local. With a national registration possibly, possibly gun owners will be even more responsible and it WON'T take away anyone's guns....you can STILL buy ALL the guns you want just register them.

Peace

Hugh Freaking Dillon

pandora wrote:

One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.

And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.

kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.

One more time: having a loaded weapon is not being self-reliant. that's being weapon-reliant. I don't need a gun. Never have, never will. Nor am I afraid of one. to equate not owning a gun to being a weak or scared person is the single most preposterous thing I think you've said on this forum.

or maybe I just have a short memory. you've gone from people needing to keep their rights to bear arms to being weak for NOT exercising that right. do you really believe this shit?

take a poll of people who have bought guns after being victimized by crime, and ask why they did it: it's for FEAR of being victimized again. FEAR.

FOR
EVER
ARMED &
RECKLESS

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Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.

And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.

kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.

One more time: having a loaded weapon is not being self-reliant. that's being weapon-reliant. I don't need a gun. Never have, never will. Nor am I afraid of one. to equate not owning a gun to being a weak or scared person is the single most preposterous thing I think you've said on this forum.

or maybe I just have a short memory. you've gone from people needing to keep their rights to bear arms to being weak for NOT exercising that right. do you really believe this shit?

take a poll of people who have bought guns after being victimized by crime, and ask why they did it: it's for FEAR of being victimized again. FEAR.

FOR
EVER
ARMED &
RECKLESS

I agree....it appears its saying those who don't have a loaded gun are pussies. I don't need a gun for protection do like I do and buy a 4 foot sword from Pakistan. I probably can handle knives, swords or a machete as well I can a rifle. No fear in living here, enjoy life.

“Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all.”
― Helen Keller

Peace

Thirty Bills Unpaid

pandora wrote:

Progressives :? more like pompous' expecting to remove the rights of others is just
an incredibly pompous view on life and other people.
Again what one can not understand they fear so they must try to make others
just like them. I'm pretty sure that won't be happening. Well not for some of us.

I respect our Constitution, our rights as many do. Our individuality,
our choices. I can choose to own a gun, be prepared in my life, be self reliant
while some will depend on others. It's all about choices. I also choose to own
a most lovely pit bull mix who would protect me at all costs. My beautiful big big love
like no other.

To quote a fine mind on this forum (Byrnzie): What a load of odd cobblers.

gimmesometruth27

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

these are guns that were around at the drafting of the 2nd amendment. these are the "arms" they were referring to. how many massacres were committed by one person using these guns?

anyone care to address my question?

OnTheEdge

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.

And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.

kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.

One more time: having a loaded weapon is not being self-reliant. that's being weapon-reliant. I don't need a gun. Never have, never will. Nor am I afraid of one. to equate not owning a gun to being a weak or scared person is the single most preposterous thing I think you've said on this forum.

or maybe I just have a short memory. you've gone from people needing to keep their rights to bear arms to being weak for NOT exercising that right. do you really believe this shit?

take a poll of people who have bought guns after being victimized by crime, and ask why they did it: it's for FEAR of being victimized again. FEAR.

FOR
EVER
ARMED &
RECKLESS

You don't need a gun. never have, never will.

So must everyone be like you? I enjoy guns and I enjoy collecting them, and I enjoy knowing that if anyone breaks into my home to cause us any harm I will be able to protect my family. Maybe things like that don't happen in your country but here we have thousands of stories of people protecting their families because they had a gun. But of course, you don't hear those stories on the news.

OnTheEdge

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

these are guns that were around at the drafting of the 2nd amendment. these are the "arms" they were referring to. how many massacres were committed by one person using these guns?

anyone care to address my question?

I don't know but i'd love to have some of those.

OnTheEdge

A Texas burglary suspect dialed 911 early Tuesday morning to report that an armed homeowner was threatening to shoot him, MyFoxDFW.com reported.

James Gerow, the homeowner, told the station that he awoke and discovered a man wearing a dark hoodie inside his Springtown, Texas home. Springtown is a small city Northwest of Fort Worth.

Gerow grabbed his gun and followed the man out to a truck in his driveway.

With gun in hand, Gerow convinced the man to drop his keys. He told his wife to call 911 and waited for deputies to arrive.

OnTheEdge

On January 19th, an elderly homeowner in MO was forced to defend himself when a 30 year old suspect broke into his home and assaulted him.

The homeowner fired a shot at the intruder, striking him in the arm.

The suspect then fled the scene, but was captured by police after a brief manhunt.

The homeowner was taken to the hospital for treatment of the injuries he sustained in the assault. The homeowner had to be airlifted to a second hospital for head injuries.

The suspect is charged with 1st degree assault and 1st degree burglary.

OnTheEdge

There were frightening moments for a Loganville family forced to fight back against a robber chasing them in their own home Friday afternoon.

CBS Atlanta News has uncovered new details regarding a home invasion in Loganville on Friday.

Walton County investigators said the homeowner involved wasn't the only target and released the chilling 911 call from the incident.

A mom and her twin 9-year-old children tried hiding near the attic - but the crook wouldn't back down.

Police say the crook was armed with a crow bar and the terrified woman inside the home opened fire on the crook, striking him five times.

OnTheEdge

According to The Associated Press, a 14-year-old Phoenix boy shot an armed intruder who broke into his home at approximately 4:30 p.m. Saturday, June 23. At that time, the boy was babysitting his younger siblings, ages eight, 12 and 12.

The incident started with a woman ringing the doorbell to the residence. Since the boy didn’t recognize the woman, he refused to open the door.

A short time later, the boy heard a loud bang, which he correctly assumed was someone attempting to force entry through the door. The boy gathered his siblings and hurried them upstairs as he armed himself with a handgun from his parent’s bedroom.

From the top of the stairs, the boy saw a man break open the front door. When the man pointed a gun at the boy, the boy shot the man. The man did not fire his weapon.

OnTheEdge

The 53-year-old woman, who is also a veteran private school counselor, was alone at the time of the Wednesday morning attack. She lives on East Mount Tabor Circle in Duluth.

The woman was getting out of the shower when she was met by a strange man with a kitchen knife, police said. They said there was a struggle in the bathroom, and she fell in the tub. Police later identified the man as Israel Perez Puentes, a Cuban national who lived in Alpharetta.

"The male was armed with a kitchen knife, a struggle ensued between the two of them. She fell in the bathtub injuring herself," Gwinnett police spokesman Edwin Ritter said.

The woman tried to fight the man off with a shower rod, and he forced her into her bedroom, police said. They said she told her attacker she had money in the room. But she grabbed a .22-caliber handgun and shot the man nine times, police said.

Police said the man ran out of a back door and collapsed in the yard. He later died at the Gwinnett Medical Center. The victim, who was injured in the scuffle, was also taken to the hospital for treatment of non-life-threatening injuries. Police have not released her name.

OnTheEdge

Monica Jones said Thursday she was more angry than afraid when she rushed to the aid of a screaming neighbor girl, pointed a shotgun at a man who had allegedly ripped off the youngster's clothes, and warned: ''Stay put or I'll shoot.''

''You don't think about getting hurt,'' Ms. Jones, a mother of three, said in an interview. ''If someone is getting hurt, I can't close my door.''

Police credit Ms. Jones' quick action with preventing the 12-year-old girl from being raped.

''She's a heroine,'' said police Capt. Robert Richters. ''She did an outstanding job - simply outstanding.''

But Ms. Jones, 28, said her actions under the circumstances were only normal.

''I wasn't going to stand back and let this man take this child and do awful things to her,'' she said. ''She wasn't nothing but a baby. If she were my child, I would hope somebody would be there to save her.''

Hugh Freaking Dillon

OnTheEdge wrote:

You don't need a gun. never have, never will.

So must everyone be like you? I enjoy guns and I enjoy collecting them, and I enjoy knowing that if anyone breaks into my home to cause us any harm I will be able to protect my family. Maybe things like that don't happen in your country but here we have thousands of stories of people protecting their families because they had a gun. But of course, you don't hear those stories on the news.

nope. never said anyone had to be like me. But I resent someone telling me that I'm a pussy for not wanting to own a gun, or not "understanding" my need to own one, or fearing a gun.

I live in Canada, not Neverland. Winnipeg is the murder capital of Canada. So yeah, things like that happen here all the time. I live my life as most other Canadians do.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

keep posting random articles about people defending themselves with handguns or rifles. that's not the main issue here, but you gun folks tend to ignore that. no one cares about your one gun you have in the house.

we care about the semi automatic rifles that people seem to think they need.

OnTheEdge

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

OnTheEdge wrote:

You don't need a gun. never have, never will.

So must everyone be like you? I enjoy guns and I enjoy collecting them, and I enjoy knowing that if anyone breaks into my home to cause us any harm I will be able to protect my family. Maybe things like that don't happen in your country but here we have thousands of stories of people protecting their families because they had a gun. But of course, you don't hear those stories on the news.

nope. never said anyone had to be like me. But I resent someone telling me that I'm a pussy for not wanting to own a gun, or not "understanding" my need to own one, or fearing a gun.

I live in Canada, not Neverland. Winnipeg is the murder capital of Canada. So yeah, things like that happen here all the time. I live my life as most other Canadians do.

Ok. But just for the record, I didn't call you a pussy. If you don't want a gun then don't have one. And that goes for every anti gun liberal out there. Why would I care? But on another note, I don't want them telling me I can't. As far as registering, I'm undecided I guess. Part of me says well maybe it might do some good if they got stolen. But a whole lot of me says I don't trust these government fucking crooks that are trying to control my life. You live in Canada......so you're used to it (little sarcastic joke)

OnTheEdge

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

keep posting random articles about people defending themselves with handguns or rifles. that's not the main issue here, but you gun folks tend to ignore that. no one cares about your one gun you have in the house.

we care about the semi automatic rifles that people seem to think they need.

But you see.....I don't care that you care.

gimmesometruth27

OnTheEdge wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

these are guns that were around at the drafting of the 2nd amendment. these are the "arms" they were referring to. how many massacres were committed by one person using these guns?

anyone care to address my question?

I don't know but i'd love to have some of those.

your reply, which was complete deflection by the way, demonstrates that you do not want to discuss the 2nd amendment in the context that it was written, because you can't tell me that some dude walked into a public place and massacred a bunch of people with a single shot gun, which was all that existed back then. in the time that it takes to load one of them, he could have been tackled. the same argument can be made for limiting the number of rounds in a clip. you should stop wasting all of our time if you do not want to have an actual productive discussion.

gimmesometruth27

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

keep posting random articles about people defending themselves with handguns or rifles. that's not the main issue here, but you gun folks tend to ignore that. no one cares about your one gun you have in the house.

we care about the semi automatic rifles that people seem to think they need.

for every one of those stories he posted i can post 10 different articles detailing mass shootings.

none of that solves the problem, so it is pointless.