No ma'am, I won't register my guns

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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung wrote:
    I approve of federal law when the Constitution allows it. Don't try changing what I've said.

    The Constitution is not written in stone. It is a living breathing document that can and has been changed(amended).


    It is not living and breathing. You completely contradict yourself. That saying is one of broken liberal ideology and very false. If it were living and breathing the interpretation would change from the original intent. Since it can not there is the amendment process with is the correct way to make changes.
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,078
    pdalowsky wrote:
    oh of course, that makes our opinions invalid. of course, how silly of us, carry on.

    I agree with you to a point. Why have semi auto when you can have FULLY Automatic.

    the sad thing is i dont even believe you are joking....
  • pdalowsky wrote:
    pdalowsky wrote:
    oh of course, that makes our opinions invalid. of course, how silly of us, carry on.

    I agree with you to a point. Why have semi auto when you can have FULLY Automatic.

    the sad thing is i dont even believe you are joking....

    You are correct. I was not joking. With proper documentation you can aquire fully automatic weapons.
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,078
    im aware of what can be bought, i was more referring to your suggestion that it would be stupid to buy semi when you can buy fully.....

    that kind of mentality is out of my comprehension.
  • pdalowsky wrote:
    im aware of what can be bought, i was more referring to your suggestion that it would be stupid to buy semi when you can buy fully.....

    that kind of mentality is out of my comprehension.

    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,182
    unsung wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I approve of federal law when the Constitution allows it. Don't try changing what I've said.

    The Constitution is not written in stone. It is a living breathing document that can and has been changed(amended).


    It is not living and breathing. You completely contradict yourself. That saying is one of broken liberal ideology and very false. If it were living and breathing the interpretation would change from the original intent. Since it can not there is the amendment process with is the correct way to make changes.

    Interpretation can and does change. Often. That is exactly what the Supreme Court does.
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    unsung wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I approve of federal law when the Constitution allows it. Don't try changing what I've said.

    The Constitution is not written in stone. It is a living breathing document that can and has been changed(amended).


    It is not living and breathing. You completely contradict yourself. That saying is one of broken liberal ideology and very false. If it were living and breathing the interpretation would change from the original intent. Since it can not there is the amendment process with is the correct way to make changes.

    OK, semantics. The point being it can be amended. It has been amended and it was made that way intentionally by design because the founding fathers knew the world would be changing and things that made sense in 1776 would not make sense 1976. They had no idea what would change but they knew changes would need to be made.
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    pdalowsky wrote:
    im aware of what can be bought, i was more referring to your suggestion that it would be stupid to buy semi when you can buy fully.....

    that kind of mentality is out of my comprehension.

    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.

    Ridiculous comparison.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    That is why it can be amended.

    I don't put much faith, if any, in the SC to make a correct decision. A federal court can't be trusted to rule against Congress, and there have been many instances that they have sided in what Congress demands. The SC should defend liberty of the smallest minority, the individual, but there are many times that it doesn't.
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    unsung wrote:
    That is why it can be amended.

    I don't put much faith, if any, in the SC to make a correct decision. A federal court can't be trusted to rule against Congress, and there have been many instances that they have sided in what Congress demands. The SC should defend liberty of the smallest minority, the individual, but there are many times that it doesn't.

    I would agree with this. The Supreme Court has become the one thing that it was not supposed to be... political.
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,078
    but reading this thread proves its impossible to get a sensible debate on gun ownership, and any kind of rational explanation as to why anyone would want to own a gun.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung wrote:
    That is why it can be amended.

    I don't put much faith, if any, in the SC to make a correct decision. A federal court can't be trusted to rule against Congress, and there have been many instances that they have sided in what Congress demands. The SC should defend liberty of the smallest minority, the individual, but there are many times that it doesn't.

    I would agree with this. The Supreme Court has become the one thing that it was not supposed to be... political.


    And if they turn political what's the point anymore?
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    pdalowsky wrote:
    but reading this thread proves its impossible to get a sensible debate on gun ownership, and any kind of rational explanation as to why anyone would want to own a gun.


    So you don't believe I should be able to defend my family against assault?
  • pdalowsky wrote:
    but reading this thread proves its impossible to get a sensible debate on gun ownership, and any kind of rational explanation as to why anyone would want to own a gun.

    As long as criminals and my government have guns, I want to have the ability to defend myself with equal protection.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,182
    pdalowsky wrote:
    im aware of what can be bought, i was more referring to your suggestion that it would be stupid to buy semi when you can buy fully.....

    that kind of mentality is out of my comprehension.

    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.

    Pastimes...hobbies...sounds like you are playing with toys. And that's what guns have become to far too many. Very dangerous toys.
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    JimmyV wrote:
    pdalowsky wrote:
    im aware of what can be bought, i was more referring to your suggestion that it would be stupid to buy semi when you can buy fully.....

    that kind of mentality is out of my comprehension.

    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.

    Pastimes...hobbies...sounds like you are playing with toys. And that's what guns have become to far too many. Very dangerous toys.

    His next argument will be so are cars.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pdalowsky wrote:
    but reading this thread proves its impossible to get a sensible debate on gun ownership, and any kind of rational explanation as to why anyone would want to own a gun.
    I'm hoping you don't mean this the way it sounds...
    I must have misunderstood :?
    but if it was intended like it sounds you are absolutely correct no reasonable debate can be had.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    pdalowsky wrote:
    but reading this thread proves its impossible to get a sensible debate on gun ownership, and any kind of rational explanation as to why anyone would want to own a gun.

    As long as criminals and my government have guns, I want to have the ability to defend myself with equal protection.

    your government has the N bomb so should you have one too so that you can defend yourself with equal protection?
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.
    The fact that anyone here wants to restrict you and your hobby,
    belittle you or assume you are irresponsible clearly shows who they are.
    This one of the many reasons why we need to protect the Second Amendment.
  • pandora wrote:
    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.
    The fact that anyone here wants to restrict you and your hobby,
    belittle you or assume you are irresponsible clearly shows who they are.
    This one of the many reasons why we need to protect the Second Amendment.

    Couldn't agree more. I usually don't say much on these boards but this is one issue that I feel I need to speak my opinion.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.
    The fact that anyone here wants to restrict you and your hobby,
    belittle you or assume you are irresponsible clearly shows who they are.
    This one of the many reasons why we need to protect the Second Amendment.

    Couldn't agree more. I usually don't say much on these boards but this is one issue that I feel I need to speak my opinion.
    I'm glad you feel the need, this need and your opinion will help protect our rights.
    Thank you and all others for the good fight.
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    pandora wrote:
    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.
    The fact that anyone here wants to restrict you and your hobby,
    belittle you or assume you are irresponsible clearly shows who they are.
    This one of the many reasons why we need to protect the Second Amendment.

    I dont have a problem with people having, owning or shooting guns. I shoot guns, its fun. The issue for me is the ridiculous unwillingness to bend by the NRA and its puppets in Congress to not pass laws that are just common sense. You cannot honestly tell me you think collecting guns is the same as collecting records and that it is just your run of the mill hobby? If you do then you are a fool. Guns are weapons made by design to kill. They are not like any other hobby.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.
    The fact that anyone here wants to restrict you and your hobby,
    belittle you or assume you are irresponsible clearly shows who they are.
    This one of the many reasons why we need to protect the Second Amendment.

    I dont have a problem with people having, owning or shooting guns. I shoot guns, its fun. The issue for me is the ridiculous unwillingness to bend by the NRA and its puppets in Congress to not pass laws that are just common sense. You cannot honestly tell me you think collecting guns is the same as collecting records and that it is just your run of the mill hobby? If you do then you are a fool. Guns are weapons made by design to kill. They are not like any other hobby.
    They are also meant to hit a target. A gun is only dangerous in dangerous hands
    but you know that you shoot and enjoy a similar hobby ... shooting.

    As far as comparing to collecting vinyl, I can't answer for the op of that comparison
    but I know a few gun collectors, I don't know any vinyl collectors, I know they can be serious.
    I think I can imagine the similarities the two enjoy though.
    Key word enjoy and of course the right to do so.

    As far as the NRA and the puppets of Congress, one of the two of those make
    good common sense to me the other is proving to be worthless unfortunately.
    Good thing we can vote out the worthless.
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,078
    pandora wrote:
    pdalowsky wrote:
    but reading this thread proves its impossible to get a sensible debate on gun ownership, and any kind of rational explanation as to why anyone would want to own a gun.
    I'm hoping you don't mean this the way it sounds...
    I must have misunderstood :?
    but if it was intended like it sounds you are absolutely correct no reasonable debate can be had.

    It doesn't surprise me that as usual
    I have no idea what you are talking about
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720

    This is coming from two people, judging from your locations, aren't even American citizens...
    we have friends that we care about at usa and we dont want them to end up dead during a school day or end up dead eating popcorn waiting to watch a movie at a theater.
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,078

    This is coming from two people, judging from your locations, aren't even American citizens...
    we have friends that we care about at usa and we dont want them to end up dead during a school day or end up dead eating popcorn waiting to watch a movie at a theater.

    Dimitris ... It's obvious because your not American you can never understand the fun of mass murder
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    pandora wrote:
    A gun is only dangerous in dangerous hands

    I'm sorry, but I think this is a huge, huge misguided train of thought.
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  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    pandora wrote:
    A gun is only dangerous in dangerous hands

    I'm sorry, but I think this is a huge, huge misguided train of thought.

    I agree.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    A gun is only dangerous in dangerous hands

    I'm sorry, but I think this is a huge, huge misguided train of thought.

    I agree.
    yep
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    pdalowsky wrote:
    im aware of what can be bought, i was more referring to your suggestion that it would be stupid to buy semi when you can buy fully.....

    that kind of mentality is out of my comprehension.

    When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.

    My vinyl collection can't kill a room full of people in the wrong hands though.

    If I have shit day, month, or year and decide to go all apeshit and take out a few people, my vinyl collection will be of no help to me.

    I'm all for you being able to collect guns and fire them as a hobby, but to compare it to other hobbies that has
    zero chance of every hurting someone, I can't wrap my head around that argument.
    Peace, Love.


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    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
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