I never said I know what everyone needs... I knew you didn't need one though
And how do anti gun people assume people own guns out of fear? Its the same thing.
Assume they are afraid of the big bad government... dumb shit.
It is about a personal choice of being prepared for present danger and that which could occur in the future.
Its a different personality is all. One who is self reliant and prepared. Just like carrying
the right insurance in one's own personal life. So simple.
so everyone who does NOT carry a gun in your opinion is:
a) not self reliant, AND
b) not prepared
that is one of the more idiotic statements I've read in a while.
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I never said I know what everyone needs... I knew you didn't need one though
And how do anti gun people assume people own guns out of fear? Its the same thing.
Assume they are afraid of the big bad government... dumb shit.
It is about a personal choice of being prepared for present danger and that which could occur in the future.
Its a different personality is all. One who is self reliant and prepared. Just like carrying
the right insurance in one's own personal life. So simple.
so everyone who does NOT carry a gun in your opinion is:
a) not self reliant, AND
b) not prepared
that is one of the more idiotic statements I've read in a while.
damn i'm 52 all these yrs i have been a&b , fuck i need to go out and buy that AR15 fuck the hand gun ....
Has anyone tried to figure out how to keep guns from criminals?
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Has anyone tried to figure out how to keep guns from criminals?
Sadly not, but it's not rocket science to figure out that looking into who is buying weapons is a good thing.
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I never said I know what everyone needs... I knew you didn't need one though
And how do anti gun people assume people own guns out of fear? Its the same thing.
Assume they are afraid of the big bad government... dumb shit.
It is about a personal choice of being prepared for present danger and that which could occur in the future.
Its a different personality is all. One who is self reliant and prepared. Just like carrying
the right insurance in one's own personal life. So simple.
so everyone who does NOT carry a gun in your opinion is:
a) not self reliant, AND
b) not prepared
that is one of the more idiotic statements I've read in a while.
That may be the most idiotic statement I've read in any forum in 2 years of being a member of the 10 club
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Amazing. They didn't have a license. That's what we should worry about?
Yes, by having a license would have prevented this, and nobody would have died. Utter ridiculousness.
No i'm just pointing out the fact that here in the USA you can get any weapon any time anywhere no matter who you are as easy as going shopping for food ...
Amazing. They didn't have a license. That's what we should worry about?
Yes, by having a license would have prevented this, and nobody would have died. Utter ridiculousness.
No i'm just pointing out the fact that here in the USA you can get any weapon any time anywhere no matter who you are as easy as going shopping for food ...
I think that is a bit of a stretch. It is way too easy though.
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Ok so now what yeah no kidding , so should we still just let anybody buy any weapon they so desire can we at least make it a bit tougher to buy weapons then it is to buy hotdogs :oops:
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I always find this response comical. then you see these same people calling for tougher drug laws and such, and you ask them "if criminals don't follow laws, why have any?".
all you get on that one is crickets.
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I always find this response comical. then you see these same people calling for tougher drug laws and such, and you ask them "if criminals don't follow laws, why have any?".
all you get on that one is crickets.[/quote
Yep. If you follow their line of logic then we should make heroin legal since it is illegal and people still get their hands on it. Then again bringing logic into this conversation flies in the face of all of their beliefs on it.
it is utterly STUPID for anyone to suggest that NOT owning a gun makes you fearful. :fp:
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LIBERTY COUNTY, Texas - A restaurant owner was robbed as she tried to open her café for the day.
Liberty County sheriff's deputies said the owner of Red's Cafe, 16598 F.M. 146 North, was attacked about 5:35 a.m. on Monday.
Detectives said a man threw the owner to the ground and stole her purse.
The man got away with the owner's cash and her gun, investigators said.
In many cases guns will not matter because of the element of surprise. I know that in many cases having a gun does work, but many cases a gun will not make a difference.
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You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
LIBERTY COUNTY, Texas - A restaurant owner was robbed as she tried to open her café for the day.
Liberty County sheriff's deputies said the owner of Red's Cafe, 16598 F.M. 146 North, was attacked about 5:35 a.m. on Monday.
Detectives said a man threw the owner to the ground and stole her purse.
The man got away with the owner's cash and her gun, investigators said.
In many cases guns will not matter because of the element of surprise. I know that in many cases having a gun does work, but many cases a gun will not make a difference.
Now to find stats to see which is safer.
Used to think if theres one gun there may not be violence, the robber will get what they want and go. If there are two guns someone will get shot. As such I don't have a gun, live in big city and feel safe.
FEDERAL WAY, Wash. - A man fatally shot his live-in girlfriend at an apartment south of Seattle and then killed three others, including a 62-year-old neighbour who told others to call the police emergency dispatcher and retreated inside his unit before the gunman broke down the door with a shotgun and opened fire, authorities said.
The 27-year-old suspect was later shot and killed in a parking lot by responding officers.
"We believe this is a domestic-violence homicide," Federal Way Police Chief Brian Wilson said at a news conference.
Wilson said investigators believe the shooter may also have been trying to kill witnesses, KOMO-TV reported.
Police encountered a chaotic situation in Federal Way on Sunday night when they responded to reports of gunshots.
The suspect confronted arriving officers with a shotgun in a stairwell then fled to the parking lot after officers fired at him, Wilson said.
He was killed on the ground while reaching for a handgun, Wilson said.
"This is one of the most dangerous ... calls for law enforcement to respond to," Wilson said of the active shooter situation.
A King County medical examiner's spokeswoman said Monday that the identities of the dead were not expected to be released until Tuesday afternoon.
Wilson said the victims included the suspect's 25-year-old girlfriend, and three men, including the 62-year-old neighbour. The other men were 24 and 46.
Police were still piecing together information but believe the suspect shot his girlfriend in their apartment, then killed the two younger men after he left the unit.
Wilson said the 62-year-old man heard the commotion from another apartment, went outside to investigate and urged others to call authorities. The man returned to his residence before he was shot and killed, the chief said.
Police said the gunman used the shotgun to fire on the man's door to gain entry. It did not appear that the older man knew the shooter, police said.
Authorities received the first reports of suspicious circumstances about 9:35 p.m. Sunday.
"When officers arrived there were still shots being fired," said police spokeswoman Cathy Schrock.
Officers swarmed and searched the large apartment complex off Interstate 5 before saying they were confident there were no more casualties.
By dawn, a medical examiner's office truck had arrived to pick up bodies while crime scene investigators kept working. One officer was seen carrying books and a gun to what appeared to be an evidence van.
A total of eight officers fired their weapons, Schrock said. All have been placed on administrative leave, which is standard policy in such situations, as the investigation continues.
Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.
Both incidents were verbal in nature and no arrests were made, Wilson said.
Federal Way is about 20 miles (32 kilometres) south of Seattle.
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Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.
and there's your good reason for fucking background checks.
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Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.
and there's your good reason for fucking background checks.
Get ready for the usual barrage of garbage. There is no common sense on the part of the people you appeal to. I mean... seriously... look at the stuff we are forced to read that is presented as rebuttal to such arguments.
Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.
and there's your good reason for fucking background checks.
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so everyone who does NOT carry a gun in your opinion is:
a) not self reliant, AND
b) not prepared
that is one of the more idiotic statements I've read in a while.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
damn i'm 52 all these yrs i have been a&b , fuck i need to go out and buy that AR15 fuck the hand gun ....
Sadly not, but it's not rocket science to figure out that looking into who is buying weapons is a good thing.
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That may be the most idiotic statement I've read in any forum in 2 years of being a member of the 10 club
Maybe don't make them so abundant for a start.
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Who needs a license or backround check no one yippie yayaaah lets all get guns :P :P
Yes, by having a license would have prevented this, and nobody would have died. Utter ridiculousness.
What the are you talking about? Who said, implied or even thought that?
No i'm just pointing out the fact that here in the USA you can get any weapon any time anywhere no matter who you are as easy as going shopping for food ...
I think that is a bit of a stretch. It is way too easy though.
*** NEWSFLASH *** Criminals don't follow laws.
Why do even bother having them, right?
Ok so now what yeah no kidding , so should we still just let anybody buy any weapon they so desire can we at least make it a bit tougher to buy weapons then it is to buy hotdogs :oops:
I always find this response comical. then you see these same people calling for tougher drug laws and such, and you ask them "if criminals don't follow laws, why have any?".
all you get on that one is crickets.
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I always find this response comical. then you see these same people calling for tougher drug laws and such, and you ask them "if criminals don't follow laws, why have any?".
all you get on that one is crickets.[/quote
Yep. If you follow their line of logic then we should make heroin legal since it is illegal and people still get their hands on it. Then again bringing logic into this conversation flies in the face of all of their beliefs on it.
you think a gun is the ONLY way to protect yourself? talk about a deluded comment. :roll:
take a good look
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not to mention she just recently got one for herself. all of a sudden she's talking down to the group she was a part of for 157 years.
it is utterly STUPID for anyone to suggest that NOT owning a gun makes you fearful. :fp:
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You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
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LIBERTY COUNTY, Texas - A restaurant owner was robbed as she tried to open her café for the day.
Liberty County sheriff's deputies said the owner of Red's Cafe, 16598 F.M. 146 North, was attacked about 5:35 a.m. on Monday.
Detectives said a man threw the owner to the ground and stole her purse.
The man got away with the owner's cash and her gun, investigators said.
In many cases guns will not matter because of the element of surprise. I know that in many cases having a gun does work, but many cases a gun will not make a difference.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Now to find stats to see which is safer.
Used to think if theres one gun there may not be violence, the robber will get what they want and go. If there are two guns someone will get shot. As such I don't have a gun, live in big city and feel safe.
The 27-year-old suspect was later shot and killed in a parking lot by responding officers.
"We believe this is a domestic-violence homicide," Federal Way Police Chief Brian Wilson said at a news conference.
Wilson said investigators believe the shooter may also have been trying to kill witnesses, KOMO-TV reported.
Police encountered a chaotic situation in Federal Way on Sunday night when they responded to reports of gunshots.
The suspect confronted arriving officers with a shotgun in a stairwell then fled to the parking lot after officers fired at him, Wilson said.
He was killed on the ground while reaching for a handgun, Wilson said.
"This is one of the most dangerous ... calls for law enforcement to respond to," Wilson said of the active shooter situation.
A King County medical examiner's spokeswoman said Monday that the identities of the dead were not expected to be released until Tuesday afternoon.
Wilson said the victims included the suspect's 25-year-old girlfriend, and three men, including the 62-year-old neighbour. The other men were 24 and 46.
Police were still piecing together information but believe the suspect shot his girlfriend in their apartment, then killed the two younger men after he left the unit.
Wilson said the 62-year-old man heard the commotion from another apartment, went outside to investigate and urged others to call authorities. The man returned to his residence before he was shot and killed, the chief said.
Police said the gunman used the shotgun to fire on the man's door to gain entry. It did not appear that the older man knew the shooter, police said.
Authorities received the first reports of suspicious circumstances about 9:35 p.m. Sunday.
"When officers arrived there were still shots being fired," said police spokeswoman Cathy Schrock.
Officers swarmed and searched the large apartment complex off Interstate 5 before saying they were confident there were no more casualties.
By dawn, a medical examiner's office truck had arrived to pick up bodies while crime scene investigators kept working. One officer was seen carrying books and a gun to what appeared to be an evidence van.
A total of eight officers fired their weapons, Schrock said. All have been placed on administrative leave, which is standard policy in such situations, as the investigation continues.
Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.
Both incidents were verbal in nature and no arrests were made, Wilson said.
Federal Way is about 20 miles (32 kilometres) south of Seattle.
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and there's your good reason for fucking background checks.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Get ready for the usual barrage of garbage. There is no common sense on the part of the people you appeal to. I mean... seriously... look at the stuff we are forced to read that is presented as rebuttal to such arguments.
There already are fucking background checks