im aware of what can be bought, i was more referring to your suggestion that it would be stupid to buy semi when you can buy fully.....
that kind of mentality is out of my comprehension.
When you have 100s of acres of land at your disposal and no civilizaiton around for miles you need to have things to do to pass the time. Just a hobby. You guys collect vinyl, I collect other things.
My vinyl collection can't kill a room full of people in the wrong hands though.
If I have shit day, month, or year and decide to go all apeshit and take out a few people, my vinyl collection will be of no help to me.
I'm all for you being able to collect guns and fire them as a hobby, but to compare it to other hobbies that has
zero chance of every hurting someone, I can't wrap my head around that argument.
you've been arrested for having a vinyl collection..
You have the right to remain silent and dont play your vinyl
Anything you play or sing may be used against you in a court of music
You have the right to consult an attorney before scream your lungs out to the police and to have an attorney present during spinning your vinyl now or in the future.
If you cannot afford an attorney, need to flip some vinyl to ebay,before any questioning, if you wish.
Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to play Binaural vinyl without an attorney present?
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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Let me get something straight about my 'collection'. I do not have a mass cache of defense weapons. I do have defense weapons, but they are just for that, defense. My collection is service rifles from WWII. I am working towards collecting one from every country involved in the war. To me this is not a collection of mass murdering weapons, this is a collection of history.
Furthermore I am getting tired of the focus only being put on how terrible weapons can be. Do you people even think about what good these weapons can actually have. How many people have been saved from assault, rape, mugging, car jacking, murder, etc... because they had the ability to pull a firearm out to scare off or shoot their would be attacker? You're only looking at one side of the issue.
I think I am going to have to start posting Armed Citizen's articles from around the country showing how a law abiding citizen's life was saved because they had a firearm.
Furthermore I am getting tired of the focus only being put on how terrible weapons can be. Do you people even think about what good these weapons can actually have. How many people have been saved from assault, rape, mugging, car jacking, murder, etc... because they had the ability to pull a firearm out to scare off or shoot their would be attacker? You're only looking at one side of the issue.
I think I am going to have to start posting Armed Citizen's articles from around the country showing how a law abiding citizen's life was saved because they had a firearm.
But no one in this thread has suggested that people can't have guns for protection... :?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Furthermore I am getting tired of the focus only being put on how terrible weapons can be. Do you people even think about what good these weapons can actually have. How many people have been saved from assault, rape, mugging, car jacking, murder, etc... because they had the ability to pull a firearm out to scare off or shoot their would be attacker? You're only looking at one side of the issue.
I think I am going to have to start posting Armed Citizen's articles from around the country showing how a law abiding citizen's life was saved because they had a firearm.
But no one in this thread has suggested that people can't have guns for protection... :?
Then what are they suggesting. To me it sounds like they don't want any guns at all.
Furthermore I am getting tired of the focus only being put on how terrible weapons can be. Do you people even think about what good these weapons can actually have. How many people have been saved from assault, rape, mugging, car jacking, murder, etc... because they had the ability to pull a firearm out to scare off or shoot their would be attacker? You're only looking at one side of the issue.
I think I am going to have to start posting Armed Citizen's articles from around the country showing how a law abiding citizen's life was saved because they had a firearm.
But no one in this thread has suggested that people can't have guns for protection... :?
Then what are they suggesting. To me it sounds like they don't want any guns at all.
what people are saying is that guns should be registered and also anyone who wants to buy a gun should get a criminal check.
some people here also don't know why people want guns but most don't question that people have a right to have a gun.
We've already covered these things many pages ago. But if we must go back, registration is one step closer to confiscation. The government has no right to know what guns you have. Background checks are required to purchase firearms. I've gone to gun shows and gun shops and have filled out the same paperwork and have waited for the same phone call to be completed.
We've already covered these things many pages ago. But if we must go back, registration is one step closer to confiscation. The government has no right to know what guns you have. Background checks are required to purchase firearms. I've gone to gun shows and gun shops and have filled out the same paperwork and have waited for the same phone call to be completed.
you asked what people wanted and i told you.
as someone here wrote before, not all states have the same laws concerning gun shows and gun shops and personal sales.
Canada has a gun registry and guess what we still have guns.
We've already covered these things many pages ago. But if we must go back, registration is one step closer to confiscation. The government has no right to know what guns you have. Background checks are required to purchase firearms. I've gone to gun shows and gun shops and have filled out the same paperwork and have waited for the same phone call to be completed.
you asked what people wanted and i told you.
as someone here wrote before, not all states have the same laws concerning gun shows and gun shops and personal sales.
Canada has a gun registry and guess what we still have guns.
That acutally sounds terrifying to me. The government knows exactly what guns you have...Is that really any of their business?
We've already covered these things many pages ago. But if we must go back, registration is one step closer to confiscation. The government has no right to know what guns you have. Background checks are required to purchase firearms. I've gone to gun shows and gun shops and have filled out the same paperwork and have waited for the same phone call to be completed.
you asked what people wanted and i told you.
as someone here wrote before, not all states have the same laws concerning gun shows and gun shops and personal sales.
Canada has a gun registry and guess what we still have guns.
That acutally sounds terrifying to me. The government knows exactly what guns you have...Is that really any of their business?
It is when a crime is committed with said gun or someone is compiling an arsenal, which is the only time they'd ever refer to the registry.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
That acutally sounds terrifying to me. The government knows exactly what guns you have...Is that really any of their business?
It is when a crime is committed with said gun or someone is compiling an arsenal, which is the only time they'd ever refer to the registry.[/quote]
Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.
as someone here wrote before, not all states have the same laws concerning gun shows and gun shops and personal sales.
Canada has a gun registry and guess what we still have guns.
That acutally sounds terrifying to me. The government knows exactly what guns you have...Is that really any of their business?
It is when a crime is committed with said gun or someone is compiling an arsenal, which is the only time they'd ever refer to the registry.
People like him have been washed by NRA propaganda, Fox News and Republican talk radio and internet bullshit. They believe Obama has a hidden agenda to take all of their guns and turn the US into a police state. Sounds ridiculous right, because it is, but millions of people believe it.
A city in the United States was turned into a Police State last week!!!! Watertown, MA was indeed a police state whether you want to beieve it or not. People were forced out of their homes at gun point, hands up, and were frisked, to allow the police to search it without resistance from the homeowner.
That acutally sounds terrifying to me. The government knows exactly what guns you have...Is that really any of their business?
It is when a crime is committed with said gun or someone is compiling an arsenal, which is the only time they'd ever refer to the registry.
Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.[/quote]
Whoa, bad quoting. I did not say that, for the record!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
That acutally sounds terrifying to me. The government knows exactly what guns you have...Is that really any of their business?
It is when a crime is committed with said gun or someone is compiling an arsenal, which is the only time they'd ever refer to the registry.
Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.[/quote]
Uuhh, someone messed up the quotes. I did not say that, for the record!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.
well cause it only takes one massacre to make someone a law breaking citizen. and as ive asked before(and never received an answer) you register your car, your children, your dog... so why not your weapons?? whats the big deal if you are in fact obeying the law?
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Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.
well cause it only takes one massacre to make someone a law breaking citizen. and as ive asked before(and never received an answer) you register your car, your children, your dog... so why not your weapons?? whats the big deal if you are in fact obeying the law?
this is what I've never understood. only the supremely paranoid think that the government is actively tracking who is building an arsenal (and really, why shouldn't they?).
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.
well cause it only takes one massacre to make someone a law breaking citizen. and as ive asked before(and never received an answer) you register your car, your children, your dog... so why not your weapons?? whats the big deal if you are in fact obeying the law?
this is what I've never understood. only the supremely paranoid think that the government is actively tracking who is building an arsenal (and really, why shouldn't they?).
not to mention if youre buying your weapons from a reputable source and not using cash, the govt already knows or has the ability to find out cause theres a record of purchase. and if youre buying your weapons from a private person, there needs to be a record of where a weapon is going and from where it came.... just seems a responsible thing I think.
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not to mention if youre buying your weapons from a reputable source and not using cash, the govt already knows or has the ability to find out cause theres a record of purchase. and if youre buying your weapons from a private person, there needs to be a record of where a weapon is going and from where it came.... just seems a responsible thing I think.
but CATE, if the big bad government knows what I owns, they might send a swatter team to comes confiscate what I gots! I'm not letting those basterds into my bunker!!!
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
not to mention if youre buying your weapons from a reputable source and not using cash, the govt already knows or has the ability to find out cause theres a record of purchase. and if youre buying your weapons from a private person, there needs to be a record of where a weapon is going and from where it came.... just seems a responsible thing I think.
but CATE, if the big bad government knows what I owns, they might send a swatter team to comes confiscate what I gots! I'm not letting those basterds into my bunker!!!
and the funny thing im the one that comes from the country that started as a penal colony.
hear my name
take a good look
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A city in the United States was turned into a Police State last week!!!! Watertown, MA was indeed a police state whether you want to beieve it or not. People were forced out of their homes at gun point, hands up, and were frisked, to allow the police to search it without resistance from the homeowner.
A city in the United States was turned into a Police State last week!!!! Watertown, MA was indeed a police state whether you want to beieve it or not. People were forced out of their homes at gun point, hands up, and were frisked, to allow the police to search it without resistance from the homeowner.
You objected to this ?
Is this a serious question? Do I object to complete government control of an American city? You're damn right I object to that. I object to citizen's rights being violated. I object to the Constitution being violated. Go ahead, call me crazy. It scares the shit out of me that American's would welcome being pulled out of their own home at gun point and have their property illegally search without objection.
A city in the United States was turned into a Police State last week!!!! Watertown, MA was indeed a police state whether you want to beieve it or not. People were forced out of their homes at gun point, hands up, and were frisked, to allow the police to search it without resistance from the homeowner.
You objected to this ?
Is this a serious question? Do I object to complete government control of an American city? You're damn right I object to that. I object to citizen's rights being violated. I object to the Constitution being violated. Go ahead, call me crazy. It scares the shit out of me that American's would welcome being pulled out of their own home at gun point and have their property illegally search without objection.
Very serious question.
Americans would hardly welcome it but those that have nothing to hide have nothing to worry about.
And when the ends justify the means then law enforcement must do everything they can to make the lives of those in that city safe.
or we could just shrug and let the guy go, i mean its unconstitutional to conduct a manhunt for a danerous terrorist.
Im starting to wonder if you are just an online wind up merchant
A city in the United States was turned into a Police State last week!!!! Watertown, MA was indeed a police state whether you want to beieve it or not. People were forced out of their homes at gun point, hands up, and were frisked, to allow the police to search it without resistance from the homeowner.
You objected to this ?
Is this a serious question? Do I object to complete government control of an American city? You're damn right I object to that. I object to citizen's rights being violated. I object to the Constitution being violated. Go ahead, call me crazy. It scares the shit out of me that American's would welcome being pulled out of their own home at gun point and have their property illegally search without objection.
Amen...
We have a real problem in our country with apathy, sheep mentality, nanny needers ...
it's scary the amount of people who care nothing about their rights.
But then again we are talking about those who do not want guns owned privately
because they do not feel the need.
Looking at statistics,
the number of gun deaths a year compared to those guns owned responsibly,
not even taking into account the illegal guns that comprise so much of gun violence,
the gun opponents do not have a leg to stand on because the fraction is so minuscule.
So incredibly out of balance.
The fact that gun sales are growing annually at an extremely high rate
and safety training along with carry permits are in high demand,
is the very best way to fight gun opponents and protect our Second Amendment.
This the public is learning so the need to own a gun not only comprises safety,
preparedness, desire but now to maintain our rights and use the best voice we have...
action.
Along with this education for those choosing to exercise their rights legally, must be guaranteed,
must be demanded to continue to grow responsible gun owner numbers.
Did the bombers register there guns?....from what I heard no....so if they had, would that have kept them from shooting at the police? No.......so we still need to figure out how to keep guns from criminals and not law abiding citizens....
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Did the bombers register there guns?....from what I heard no....so if they had, would that have kept them from shooting at the police? No.......so we still need to figure out how to keep guns from criminals and not law abiding citizens....
I think the fact that theyd detonated a bomb killing people, which lead to their confrontation with law enforcement, makes it irrelevant that their guns were registered or not, don't you think?
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take a good look
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We've already covered these things many pages ago. But if we must go back, registration is one step closer to confiscation. The government has no right to know what guns you have. Background checks are required to purchase firearms. I've gone to gun shows and gun shops and have filled out the same paperwork and have waited for the same phone call to be completed.
you asked what people wanted and i told you.
as someone here wrote before, not all states have the same laws concerning gun shows and gun shops and personal sales.
Canada has a gun registry and guess what we still have guns.
That acutally sounds terrifying to me. The government knows exactly what guns you have...Is that really any of their business?
that funny I am terrified about having idiots shooting me. (sorry I think this might come out wrong. I am not calling you an idiot) but going back, you say that registration is one step closer to confiscation. I am showing you that Canada does register and no one guns have been confiscated.
Gun Show Vendor Jokes With Insane Customer About How He Hopes He's Not Insane
ANDERSON, IN—While he was selling mentally unstable customer Bernie Lovell a brand-new hunting rifle earlier this afternoon, local gun show vendor Mark Palmer joked with the new firearm owner and insane man about how he “sure hopes” he’s not insane. “Boy, that sure would be something if you turned out to be one of those lunatics who shoots up a school or a mall or whatnot, right? Ha, ha!” said Palmer, laughing unknowingly with a clinically deranged individual about how the man “better not be a crazy person.” “Promise not to do that? Ha, just kidding! Anyway, you need some ammo with this?”
Immediately after the two finished laughing, Lovell grabbed the rifle, stared blankly at Palmer’s face for 20 seconds, and left the gun show.
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You have the right to remain silent and dont play your vinyl
Anything you play or sing may be used against you in a court of music
You have the right to consult an attorney before scream your lungs out to the police and to have an attorney present during spinning your vinyl now or in the future.
If you cannot afford an attorney, need to flip some vinyl to ebay,before any questioning, if you wish.
Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to play Binaural vinyl without an attorney present?
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I think I am going to have to start posting Armed Citizen's articles from around the country showing how a law abiding citizen's life was saved because they had a firearm.
Then what are they suggesting. To me it sounds like they don't want any guns at all.
what people are saying is that guns should be registered and also anyone who wants to buy a gun should get a criminal check.
some people here also don't know why people want guns but most don't question that people have a right to have a gun.
you asked what people wanted and i told you.
as someone here wrote before, not all states have the same laws concerning gun shows and gun shops and personal sales.
Canada has a gun registry and guess what we still have guns.
That acutally sounds terrifying to me. The government knows exactly what guns you have...Is that really any of their business?
Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.
People like him have been washed by NRA propaganda, Fox News and Republican talk radio and internet bullshit. They believe Obama has a hidden agenda to take all of their guns and turn the US into a police state. Sounds ridiculous right, because it is, but millions of people believe it.
Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.[/quote]
Whoa, bad quoting. I did not say that, for the record!
Why does the government need to know if a law abiding citizen is compiling an arsenal? WHY? This is suppose to be a capitialistic society damnit. People have the right to buy whatever the hell they want within the law. Certain types of guns are within the law.[/quote]
Uuhh, someone messed up the quotes. I did not say that, for the record!
well cause it only takes one massacre to make someone a law breaking citizen.
take a good look
this could be the day
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lie beside me
i just need to say
Yea, I did mess that up pretty bad. I apologize for that pj_soul
this is what I've never understood. only the supremely paranoid think that the government is actively tracking who is building an arsenal (and really, why shouldn't they?).
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
not to mention if youre buying your weapons from a reputable source and not using cash, the govt already knows or has the ability to find out cause theres a record of purchase. and if youre buying your weapons from a private person, there needs to be a record of where a weapon is going and from where it came.... just seems a responsible thing I think.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
but CATE, if the big bad government knows what I owns, they might send a swatter team to comes confiscate what I gots! I'm not letting those basterds into my bunker!!!
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
and the funny thing im the one that comes from the country that started as a penal colony.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
You objected to this ?
Is this a serious question? Do I object to complete government control of an American city? You're damn right I object to that. I object to citizen's rights being violated. I object to the Constitution being violated. Go ahead, call me crazy. It scares the shit out of me that American's would welcome being pulled out of their own home at gun point and have their property illegally search without objection.
Very serious question.
Americans would hardly welcome it but those that have nothing to hide have nothing to worry about.
And when the ends justify the means then law enforcement must do everything they can to make the lives of those in that city safe.
or we could just shrug and let the guy go, i mean its unconstitutional to conduct a manhunt for a danerous terrorist.
Im starting to wonder if you are just an online wind up merchant
We have a real problem in our country with apathy, sheep mentality, nanny needers ...
it's scary the amount of people who care nothing about their rights.
But then again we are talking about those who do not want guns owned privately
because they do not feel the need.
Looking at statistics,
the number of gun deaths a year compared to those guns owned responsibly,
not even taking into account the illegal guns that comprise so much of gun violence,
the gun opponents do not have a leg to stand on because the fraction is so minuscule.
So incredibly out of balance.
The fact that gun sales are growing annually at an extremely high rate
and safety training along with carry permits are in high demand,
is the very best way to fight gun opponents and protect our Second Amendment.
This the public is learning so the need to own a gun not only comprises safety,
preparedness, desire but now to maintain our rights and use the best voice we have...
action.
Along with this education for those choosing to exercise their rights legally, must be guaranteed,
must be demanded to continue to grow responsible gun owner numbers.
I think the fact that theyd detonated a bomb killing people, which lead to their confrontation with law enforcement, makes it irrelevant that their guns were registered or not, don't you think?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
that funny I am terrified about having idiots shooting me. (sorry I think this might come out wrong. I am not calling you an idiot) but going back, you say that registration is one step closer to confiscation. I am showing you that Canada does register and no one guns have been confiscated.
ANDERSON, IN—While he was selling mentally unstable customer Bernie Lovell a brand-new hunting rifle earlier this afternoon, local gun show vendor Mark Palmer joked with the new firearm owner and insane man about how he “sure hopes” he’s not insane. “Boy, that sure would be something if you turned out to be one of those lunatics who shoots up a school or a mall or whatnot, right? Ha, ha!” said Palmer, laughing unknowingly with a clinically deranged individual about how the man “better not be a crazy person.” “Promise not to do that? Ha, just kidding! Anyway, you need some ammo with this?”
Immediately after the two finished laughing, Lovell grabbed the rifle, stared blankly at Palmer’s face for 20 seconds, and left the gun show.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/gun-show-vendor-jokes-with-insane-customer-about-h,32164/