Nominating an offensive lineman is sure to raise eyebrows from some and ire from others. Unlike in baseball and hockey, the NFL’s specialists (for want of a better word) do not have their own award — NFL offensive linemen do not have their equivalent of the Vezina Trophy or the Cy Young award. Though the NFL doesn’t provide such an award and there aren’t the readymade statistics available for positional comparisons doesn’t mean that 45% of an offensive lineup should be excluded from the offensive player of the year award when grading every game, every player, every play shows that they are deserving of recognition.
2013-OPOY-mathisFinally getting the wider credit he has deserved for a few seasons now, Evan Mathis is the epitome of a quality offensive lineman. Not focused on occasional dominance or what he “can do”, Mathis is marked by what he does consistently and that is control the man across from him and execute his assignment to a tee.
Some offensive linemen will have their rep built from the occasional highlight-reel block or one big performance, but Mathis’s consistency as a run blocker is what has separated him from his peers at guard in recent years and especially this season. While his pass protection may not have been in line with the very best this year, his run blocking was unparalleled.
Earning a positive grade in every single game this season, Mathis only earned a run block grade below +2.0 four times. By comparison, the league’s next-highest graded run blocker of 2013 (Mathis’ team-mate Todd Herremans) only earned a +2.0 or higher grade as a run blocker seven times and fellow Associated Press first team All-Pro guard Louis Vazquez only did it twice.
While he may not have the statistics to quantify how well he played this season, if you study the tape there is little doubt that he is right up there among the most consistently excellent offensive players in the entire NFL, a fact finally acknowledged with his first AP All-Pro selection to go with his three PFF All-Pro nominations.
1st Runner Up
LeSean McCoy, RB, Philadelphia Eagles
All of the talk entering the season was how Chip Kelly’s system on offense would work in the NFL and how the Eagles’ quarterbacks would be helped or hindered by it. As it happened, Nick Foles came in and ran it very well but the player that it melded most successfully and most spectacularly with was the NFL’s rushing champion, LeSean McCoy.
2013-OPOY-mccoyLaying down a marker in the season-opening Monday Night Football game, McCoy racked up 184 yards and broke nine tackles against the hapless Washington defense to get his 2013 off to a flying start. Taking full advantage of a ground game (both in terms of scheme and the offensive line clearing a path for him) that got him into space often, McCoy made things happen once he was there, finishing the year with 57 missed tackles forced as a runner and breaking off 26 carries that gained 15 yards or more, most in the league by half a dozen.
Pushing him close to the top was his performance when the Eagles needed it most to clinch the division title in the final month of the season. Three of McCoy’s seven 100-yard games came in the final month, including a memorable performance to lift the Eagles to victory in their snow bowl encounter with the Lions early in December. That day he forced eight missed tackles, gained 3.6 yards per carry after contact and crossed the goal line twice.
McCoy was the perfect fit for the Eagles’ offense this season and took full advantage of the excellent blocking from his offensive line especially in the final month of a spectacular season.
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The Eagles should overwhelm Tom Gamble with a boatload of cash so he doesn't leave for Miami. Rossman deserves credit for bringing in such an experienced and respected guy last year. I think that would be a big loss if he left after one season...
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The Eagles should overwhelm Tom Gamble with a boatload of cash so he doesn't leave for Miami. Rossman deserves credit for bringing in such an experienced and respected guy last year. I think that would be a big loss if he left after one season...
bill lazor is interviewing with miami also for the oc position. guy obviously did a great job with nick montana this year
The Eagles should overwhelm Tom Gamble with a boatload of cash so he doesn't leave for Miami. Rossman deserves credit for bringing in such an experienced and respected guy last year. I think that would be a big loss if he left after one season...
Why the hell would he go to that mess in Miami? I'm surprised he left SF but he did it to be closer to his dad.
Alright, alright, alright!
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The Eagles should overwhelm Tom Gamble with a boatload of cash so he doesn't leave for Miami. Rossman deserves credit for bringing in such an experienced and respected guy last year. I think that would be a big loss if he left after one season...
Why the hell would he go to that mess in Miami? I'm surprised he left SF but he did it to be closer to his dad.
edson, my dear friend....without, seemingly, any knowledge what so ever, you are single handily making this much more enjoyable for us. thank you. please continue posting. you've sort of taken on the "metsfan" role of years past. the irony is that you're a yankee fan. a fraud, none the less, as evidence by your love of the chokers from dallas.
but i digress and i will indulge you for a brief moment...
nobody here is out of line with their exuberance. nobody is saying the eagles are winning the super bowl. most of us expressed concern about beating the lowly cowboys last week. nobody, as of yet, has even said we will steamroll the saints. this season has been gravy for us for weeks now as this was essentially a rebuilding year. we are happy now because our team appears to be ahead of schedule. so your posts are misguided. amusing, clearly. but misguided.
but you calling them a "crappy" team, on the other hand, is the most outlandish and ridiculous comment anyone has made in this thread outside of anything pjhawks has ever posted. and that is saying something. congratulations. if you would like to explain why--again, using actual football examples and not simply citing who they played and what division they played in, i'd love to have a conversation about that. because you seem like a nice fellow. you just need to be enlightened a little before you're ready to talk with us. now go ahead. tell us why the eagles are a crappy team. go ahead.
So, what happened? I missed the game. Are the Eagles in the Super Bowl?
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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edson, my dear friend....without, seemingly, any knowledge what so ever, you are single handily making this much more enjoyable for us. thank you. please continue posting. you've sort of taken on the "metsfan" role of years past. the irony is that you're a yankee fan. a fraud, none the less, as evidence by your love of the chokers from dallas.
but i digress and i will indulge you for a brief moment...
nobody here is out of line with their exuberance. nobody is saying the eagles are winning the super bowl. most of us expressed concern about beating the lowly cowboys last week. nobody, as of yet, has even said we will steamroll the saints. this season has been gravy for us for weeks now as this was essentially a rebuilding year. we are happy now because our team appears to be ahead of schedule. so your posts are misguided. amusing, clearly. but misguided.
but you calling them a "crappy" team, on the other hand, is the most outlandish and ridiculous comment anyone has made in this thread outside of anything pjhawks has ever posted. and that is saying something. congratulations. if you would like to explain why--again, using actual football examples and not simply citing who they played and what division they played in, i'd love to have a conversation about that. because you seem like a nice fellow. you just need to be enlightened a little before you're ready to talk with us. now go ahead. tell us why the eagles are a crappy team. go ahead.
So, what happened? I missed the game. Are the Eagles in the Super Bowl?
do you even read what you are replying to? you declined to clarify what you meant by calling them a "crappy" team a few weeks ago. do you want to take a stab at it now or something? i'm all ears if you'd like to indulge us...
edson, my dear friend....without, seemingly, any knowledge what so ever, you are single handily making this much more enjoyable for us. thank you. please continue posting. you've sort of taken on the "metsfan" role of years past. the irony is that you're a yankee fan. a fraud, none the less, as evidence by your love of the chokers from dallas.
but i digress and i will indulge you for a brief moment...
nobody here is out of line with their exuberance. nobody is saying the eagles are winning the super bowl. most of us expressed concern about beating the lowly cowboys last week. nobody, as of yet, has even said we will steamroll the saints. this season has been gravy for us for weeks now as this was essentially a rebuilding year. we are happy now because our team appears to be ahead of schedule. so your posts are misguided. amusing, clearly. but misguided.
but you calling them a "crappy" team, on the other hand, is the most outlandish and ridiculous comment anyone has made in this thread outside of anything pjhawks has ever posted. and that is saying something. congratulations. if you would like to explain why--again, using actual football examples and not simply citing who they played and what division they played in, i'd love to have a conversation about that. because you seem like a nice fellow. you just need to be enlightened a little before you're ready to talk with us. now go ahead. tell us why the eagles are a crappy team. go ahead.
So, what happened? I missed the game. Are the Eagles in the Super Bowl?
do you even read what you are replying to? you declined to clarify what you meant by calling them a "crappy" team a few weeks ago. do you want to take a stab at it now or something? i'm all ears if you'd like to indulge us...
Answer a question with a question. Interesting. I let the games answer when folks start calling me clueless.
So, how'd the game go? How many winning teams did the Eagles actually beat this year? Good luck with your first place schedule and overrated QB/offense next year.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
edson, my dear friend....without, seemingly, any knowledge what so ever, you are single handily making this much more enjoyable for us. thank you. please continue posting. you've sort of taken on the "metsfan" role of years past. the irony is that you're a yankee fan. a fraud, none the less, as evidence by your love of the chokers from dallas.
but i digress and i will indulge you for a brief moment...
nobody here is out of line with their exuberance. nobody is saying the eagles are winning the super bowl. most of us expressed concern about beating the lowly cowboys last week. nobody, as of yet, has even said we will steamroll the saints. this season has been gravy for us for weeks now as this was essentially a rebuilding year. we are happy now because our team appears to be ahead of schedule. so your posts are misguided. amusing, clearly. but misguided.
but you calling them a "crappy" team, on the other hand, is the most outlandish and ridiculous comment anyone has made in this thread outside of anything pjhawks has ever posted. and that is saying something. congratulations. if you would like to explain why--again, using actual football examples and not simply citing who they played and what division they played in, i'd love to have a conversation about that. because you seem like a nice fellow. you just need to be enlightened a little before you're ready to talk with us. now go ahead. tell us why the eagles are a crappy team. go ahead.
So, what happened? I missed the game. Are the Eagles in the Super Bowl?
do you even read what you are replying to? you declined to clarify what you meant by calling them a "crappy" team a few weeks ago. do you want to take a stab at it now or something? i'm all ears if you'd like to indulge us...
Answer a question with a question. Interesting. I let the games answer when folks start calling me clueless.
So, how'd the game go? How many winning teams did the Eagles actually beat this year? Good luck with your first place schedule and overrated QB/offense next year.
Thanks. Your overrated QB played v. basically the same competition. How many winning teams were on our schedule? Why is the sky blue?
Alright, alright, alright!
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-The Writer
I'm pretty sure he's a Yanks fan AND a Cowboys fans. Could be off, but I think that's the case.
Would not be overwhelmed to hear he is also a Lakers (maybe now Heat) fan, along with Red Wings in hockey (this would be the team in hockey, right?), UNC in NCAA basketball, Alabama/USC/Miami (depending on the era) for college football....
I'm pretty sure he's a Yanks fan AND a Cowboys fans. Could be off, but I think that's the case.
Would not be overwhelmed to hear he is also a Lakers (maybe now Heat) fan, along with Red Wings in hockey (this would be the team in hockey, right?), UNC in NCAA basketball, Alabama/USC/Miami (depending on the era) for college football....
...so take it all with a grain of salt...
Ha, ha. As if that matters. When was the last time the Cowboys won?
But, for the record as if that makes a difference - Knicks, Islanders (until they move to Brooklyn, Don't really care that much about hockey and the Rangers are fine, too), and the one you can jump on where I am truly a front runner -
UCONN Huskies Basketball!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Basketball program in the last 15 years. Why would UNC be the right basketball program to pick? UCONN has more National Championships than ANYONE in the last 15 years (on top of winning what was the toughest conference in the country the most times until they stupidly imploded it over football). So, you should have picked that as your assumption, and you would have been right!
So, does any of that make the Eagles any better?
EDIT: And BTW, I am a UCONN Alum, so I assume I get a pass on rooting for the best basketball program in the country (did I say that yet?)
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edson, my dear friend....without, seemingly, any knowledge what so ever, you are single handily making this much more enjoyable for us. thank you. please continue posting. you've sort of taken on the "metsfan" role of years past. the irony is that you're a yankee fan. a fraud, none the less, as evidence by your love of the chokers from dallas.
but i digress and i will indulge you for a brief moment...
nobody here is out of line with their exuberance. nobody is saying the eagles are winning the super bowl. most of us expressed concern about beating the lowly cowboys last week. nobody, as of yet, has even said we will steamroll the saints. this season has been gravy for us for weeks now as this was essentially a rebuilding year. we are happy now because our team appears to be ahead of schedule. so your posts are misguided. amusing, clearly. but misguided.
but you calling them a "crappy" team, on the other hand, is the most outlandish and ridiculous comment anyone has made in this thread outside of anything pjhawks has ever posted. and that is saying something. congratulations. if you would like to explain why--again, using actual football examples and not simply citing who they played and what division they played in, i'd love to have a conversation about that. because you seem like a nice fellow. you just need to be enlightened a little before you're ready to talk with us. now go ahead. tell us why the eagles are a crappy team. go ahead.
So, what happened? I missed the game. Are the Eagles in the Super Bowl?
do you even read what you are replying to? you declined to clarify what you meant by calling them a "crappy" team a few weeks ago. do you want to take a stab at it now or something? i'm all ears if you'd like to indulge us...
Answer a question with a question. Interesting. I let the games answer when folks start calling me clueless.
So, how'd the game go? How many winning teams did the Eagles actually beat this year? Good luck with your first place schedule and overrated QB/offense next year.
you seem confused because this is the 2nd time you have replied to this same exact post. i mean, who does that? both times you have failed to answer my question to you about why you think the eagles were a "crappy team" this year. if you want to try again (using sound football logic and not the pedestrian way of looking at a schedule), go ahead. since you have failed twice, i'm guessing you are unable to do so...and this, sadly puts you in the same position you found yourself in 3 weeks ago. congrats.
poor guy. i guess he is still hung up on the cowboys losing to the eagles, which seems like ages ago now. kinda pathetic. time to move on with your life.
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I know it's still early but it looks like Gamble is staying.
that would be great news.
But it looks like Bill Lazor is headed to Detroit to be their OC....you know cuz "crappy teams'" qb coaches usually get these kinds of opportunities. Haha
I'm pretty sure he's a Yanks fan AND a Cowboys fans. Could be off, but I think that's the case.
Would not be overwhelmed to hear he is also a Lakers (maybe now Heat) fan, along with Red Wings in hockey (this would be the team in hockey, right?), UNC in NCAA basketball, Alabama/USC/Miami (depending on the era) for college football....
...so take it all with a grain of salt...
Ha, ha. As if that matters. When was the last time the Cowboys won?
But, for the record as if that makes a difference - Knicks, Islanders (until they move to Brooklyn, Don't really care that much about hockey and the Rangers are fine, too), and the one you can jump on where I am truly a front runner -
UCONN Huskies Basketball!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Basketball program in the last 15 years. Why would UNC be the right basketball program to pick? UCONN has more National Championships than ANYONE in the last 15 years (on top of winning what was the toughest conference in the country the most times until they stupidly imploded it over football). So, you should have picked that as your assumption, and you would have been right!
So, does any of that make the Eagles any better?
EDIT: And BTW, I am a UCONN Alum, so I assume I get a pass on rooting for the best basketball program in the country (did I say that yet?)
Relax. We're not talking about women's basketball here so don't get your vagina in a twist.
Now, back to the bold part of your statement, and this will probably be the last time I respond to you - the others may more, but I don't know why - but what do you mean does what make the Eagles better? They were 4-12 last year and gained 6 wins. How were they not better? Oh, and that overrated QB got them the lead in that game against NO. Now, I can't speak to the defense, or the fact that a Hall of Famer had the ball with 3 minutes to go, because, yes, they sure did suck with all that.
I think what you're missing in my point of bringing of what I did about your interest in teams is that people like you do not warrant a response. I will gladly debate with a Cowboys fan from a resonable distance from Jerry World, but the likes of your kind are the worst. I'm sure you have a great story about how your grandfather was in the military, earned the Purple Heart in Dubya Dubya 2, was then based in Texas and rescued Tom Landy's dog from a well....and this is why you wore, with pride, that dingy blue and gray Dallas Start pullover when you were picking and eating those snot crusts from your nose while shoveling your driveway in anywhere-it-doesn't-matter New York/Connecticut/Who-gives-a-shit-not-DFW.
I'm pretty sure he's a Yanks fan AND a Cowboys fans. Could be off, but I think that's the case.
Would not be overwhelmed to hear he is also a Lakers (maybe now Heat) fan, along with Red Wings in hockey (this would be the team in hockey, right?), UNC in NCAA basketball, Alabama/USC/Miami (depending on the era) for college football....
...so take it all with a grain of salt...
Ha, ha. As if that matters. When was the last time the Cowboys won?
But, for the record as if that makes a difference - Knicks, Islanders (until they move to Brooklyn, Don't really care that much about hockey and the Rangers are fine, too), and the one you can jump on where I am truly a front runner -
UCONN Huskies Basketball!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Basketball program in the last 15 years. Why would UNC be the right basketball program to pick? UCONN has more National Championships than ANYONE in the last 15 years (on top of winning what was the toughest conference in the country the most times until they stupidly imploded it over football). So, you should have picked that as your assumption, and you would have been right!
So, does any of that make the Eagles any better?
EDIT: And BTW, I am a UCONN Alum, so I assume I get a pass on rooting for the best basketball program in the country (did I say that yet?)
Relax. We're not talking about women's basketball here so don't get your vagina in a twist.
Ha, ha, ha. I don't even pay attention to the women. The MEN are the most successful basketball program in the country. Pay attention. I'm supposed to be the clueless one. Ha, ha, ha.
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Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
I'm pretty sure he's a Yanks fan AND a Cowboys fans. Could be off, but I think that's the case.
Would not be overwhelmed to hear he is also a Lakers (maybe now Heat) fan, along with Red Wings in hockey (this would be the team in hockey, right?), UNC in NCAA basketball, Alabama/USC/Miami (depending on the era) for college football....
...so take it all with a grain of salt...
Ha, ha. As if that matters. When was the last time the Cowboys won?
But, for the record as if that makes a difference - Knicks, Islanders (until they move to Brooklyn, Don't really care that much about hockey and the Rangers are fine, too), and the one you can jump on where I am truly a front runner -
UCONN Huskies Basketball!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Basketball program in the last 15 years. Why would UNC be the right basketball program to pick? UCONN has more National Championships than ANYONE in the last 15 years (on top of winning what was the toughest conference in the country the most times until they stupidly imploded it over football). So, you should have picked that as your assumption, and you would have been right!
So, does any of that make the Eagles any better?
EDIT: And BTW, I am a UCONN Alum, so I assume I get a pass on rooting for the best basketball program in the country (did I say that yet?)
Relax. We're not talking about women's basketball here so don't get your vagina in a twist.
Ha, ha, ha. I don't even pay attention to the women. The MEN are the most successful basketball program in the country. Pay attention. I'm supposed to be the clueless one. Ha, ha, ha.
I'm pretty sure he's a Yanks fan AND a Cowboys fans. Could be off, but I think that's the case.
Would not be overwhelmed to hear he is also a Lakers (maybe now Heat) fan, along with Red Wings in hockey (this would be the team in hockey, right?), UNC in NCAA basketball, Alabama/USC/Miami (depending on the era) for college football....
...so take it all with a grain of salt...
Ha, ha. As if that matters. When was the last time the Cowboys won?
But, for the record as if that makes a difference - Knicks, Islanders (until they move to Brooklyn, Don't really care that much about hockey and the Rangers are fine, too), and the one you can jump on where I am truly a front runner -
UCONN Huskies Basketball!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Basketball program in the last 15 years. Why would UNC be the right basketball program to pick? UCONN has more National Championships than ANYONE in the last 15 years (on top of winning what was the toughest conference in the country the most times until they stupidly imploded it over football). So, you should have picked that as your assumption, and you would have been right!
So, does any of that make the Eagles any better?
EDIT: And BTW, I am a UCONN Alum, so I assume I get a pass on rooting for the best basketball program in the country (did I say that yet?)
Now, back to the bold part of your statement, and this will probably be the last time I respond to you - the others may more, but I don't know why - but what do you mean does what make the Eagles better? They were 4-12 last year and gained 6 wins. How were they not better? Oh, and that overrated QB got them the lead in that game against NO. Now, I can't speak to the defense, or the fact that a Hall of Famer had the ball with 3 minutes to go, because, yes, they sure did suck with all that.
I think what you're missing in my point of bringing of what I did about your interest in teams is that people like you do not warrant a response. I will gladly debate with a Cowboys fan from a resonable distance from Jerry World, but the likes of your kind are the worst. I'm sure you have a great story about how your grandfather was in the military, earned the Purple Heart in Dubya Dubya 2, was then based in Texas and rescued Tom Landy's dog from a well....and this is why you wore, with pride, that dingy blue and gray Dallas Start pullover when you were picking and eating those snot crusts from your nose while shoveling your driveway in anywhere-it-doesn't-matter New York/Connecticut/Who-gives-a-shit-not-DFW.
Nope. Cowboys were good and the cheerleaders were hot when I was 7 years old. My Dad liked the Giants, and I liked to tweak him.
As for our discussion on the Eagles - what I meant was - how does the fact of who I like make the Eagles of 2013 any better or worse? Not vs. 2012. Who give a shit about 2012? Does the fact that I like the Cowboys make this year's version of the Eagles any better?
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
I'm pretty sure he's a Yanks fan AND a Cowboys fans. Could be off, but I think that's the case.
Would not be overwhelmed to hear he is also a Lakers (maybe now Heat) fan, along with Red Wings in hockey (this would be the team in hockey, right?), UNC in NCAA basketball, Alabama/USC/Miami (depending on the era) for college football....
...so take it all with a grain of salt...
Ha, ha. As if that matters. When was the last time the Cowboys won?
But, for the record as if that makes a difference - Knicks, Islanders (until they move to Brooklyn, Don't really care that much about hockey and the Rangers are fine, too), and the one you can jump on where I am truly a front runner -
UCONN Huskies Basketball!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Basketball program in the last 15 years. Why would UNC be the right basketball program to pick? UCONN has more National Championships than ANYONE in the last 15 years (on top of winning what was the toughest conference in the country the most times until they stupidly imploded it over football). So, you should have picked that as your assumption, and you would have been right!
So, does any of that make the Eagles any better?
EDIT: And BTW, I am a UCONN Alum, so I assume I get a pass on rooting for the best basketball program in the country (did I say that yet?)
Now, back to the bold part of your statement, and this will probably be the last time I respond to you - the others may more, but I don't know why - but what do you mean does what make the Eagles better? They were 4-12 last year and gained 6 wins. How were they not better? Oh, and that overrated QB got them the lead in that game against NO. Now, I can't speak to the defense, or the fact that a Hall of Famer had the ball with 3 minutes to go, because, yes, they sure did suck with all that.
I think what you're missing in my point of bringing of what I did about your interest in teams is that people like you do not warrant a response. I will gladly debate with a Cowboys fan from a resonable distance from Jerry World, but the likes of your kind are the worst. I'm sure you have a great story about how your grandfather was in the military, earned the Purple Heart in Dubya Dubya 2, was then based in Texas and rescued Tom Landy's dog from a well....and this is why you wore, with pride, that dingy blue and gray Dallas Start pullover when you were picking and eating those snot crusts from your nose while shoveling your driveway in anywhere-it-doesn't-matter New York/Connecticut/Who-gives-a-shit-not-DFW.
Nope. Cowboys were good and the cheerleaders were hot when I was 7 years old. My Dad liked the Giants, and I liked to tweak him.
As for our discussion on the Eagles - what I meant was - how does the fact of who I like make the Eagles of 2013 any better or worse? Not vs. 2012. Who give a shit about 2012? Does the fact that I like the Cowboys make this year's version of the Eagles any better?
Nope. Cowboys were good and the cheerleaders were hot when I was 7 years old. My Dad liked the Giants, and I liked to tweak him.
As for our discussion on the Eagles - what I meant was - how does the fact of who I like make the Eagles of 2013 any better or worse? Not vs. 2012. Who give a shit about 2012? Does the fact that I like the Cowboys make this year's version of the Eagles any better?
In your case....makes them better.
And you're a disgrace to your fahtha.
I love my father, but if you ever sat through a game with him, you'd understand why. And if it makes you feel any better, 1 of my 4 sons has decided to be a Giants fan to tweak me. The most disappointing part about the Cowboys constant mediocrity is I think i could flip him if they won. But, not much time left. At some point, there's honor in staying whatever fan you are as a kid regardless of how you get there. I think I still have a bit of a window, though because he's younger (And quite frankly he probably wouldn't be a Giants fan either if they hadn't won a couple years ago).
EDIT: But enough about me. How does what team I like make the Eagles better?
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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i would disown my son if he ever turned into a cowboys fan.
Nope. Cowboys were good and the cheerleaders were hot when I was 7 years old. My Dad liked the Giants, and I liked to tweak him.
As for our discussion on the Eagles - what I meant was - how does the fact of who I like make the Eagles of 2013 any better or worse? Not vs. 2012. Who give a shit about 2012? Does the fact that I like the Cowboys make this year's version of the Eagles any better?
In your case....makes them better.
And you're a disgrace to your fahtha.
I love my father, but if you ever sat through a game with him, you'd understand why. And if it makes you feel any better, 1 of my 4 sons has decided to be a Giants fan to tweak me. The most disappointing part about the Cowboys constant mediocrity is I think i could flip him if they won. But, not much time left. At some point, there's honor in staying whatever fan you are as a kid regardless of how you get there. I think I still have a bit of a window, though because he's younger (And quite frankly he probably wouldn't be a Giants fan either if they hadn't won a couple years ago).
EDIT: But enough about me. How does what team I like make the Eagles better?
I don't know how we got here...but I do like fucking with you.
Easy to be a Yanks fan from the jump, though, right?
....Annnnnnd you're a mope.
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edit---and a year to the date after he was hired too. good stuff.
onward. upward.
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the eagles obviously improved this year, but looking at these 2 teams playing in seattle tomorrow, they're still a ways behind defensively.
offensively they are in good shape. all they need to add is another, bigger wideout.. foles will drop off a bit next year for sure, but if the d is improved, it will make that more bearable.
on defense, if they can get an elite pass rushing olb to replace cole/graham and either a standout corner or hard hitting safety, they'll be in much better shape. the line did a good job against the run all year--i think the saints game was an anomaly as they played almost the whole game in nickel. billy davis just didn't adjust. i'm fine with the d line. i would love to trade for dion jordan but i doubt that rumor has legs.
i was more dead set on finding a safety until i heard sal palantonio recently say he thinks corner is more important. if you have a shut down corner who you don't even have to worry about, it just takes so much pressure off the rest of the secondary and they become better because of it. solid point. though, thinking of what this d would have been like with earl thomas back there makes me want to puke up my oatmeal right now. i could go either way there.
gonna be fun watching these games tomorrow......but i feel like this is going to be the longest off season EVER.
Dion Jordan for the 22nd pick? These rumors have been around for a few days. Mia is playing a 4-3 and he doesn't fit that scheme. I'd roll the dice on that I think.
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Dion Jordan for the 22nd pick? These rumors have been around for a few days. Mia is playing a 4-3 and he doesn't fit that scheme. I'd roll the dice on that I think.
he was taken 4th last year though, right? they'd have to give up a more than 22. i'd throw in brandon graham maybe.
Dion Jordan for the 22nd pick? These rumors have been around for a few days. Mia is playing a 4-3 and he doesn't fit that scheme. I'd roll the dice on that I think.
he was taken 4th last year though, right? they'd have to give up a more than 22. i'd throw in brandon graham maybe.
he went 3,we had 4 last year. And from what i've read the #22 pick is plenty. A Chip guy with actual talent. I'd probably make the move.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/01/07/2013-pff-offensive-player-of-the-year/
3rd Runner Up
Evan Mathis, G, Philadelphia Eagles
Nominating an offensive lineman is sure to raise eyebrows from some and ire from others. Unlike in baseball and hockey, the NFL’s specialists (for want of a better word) do not have their own award — NFL offensive linemen do not have their equivalent of the Vezina Trophy or the Cy Young award. Though the NFL doesn’t provide such an award and there aren’t the readymade statistics available for positional comparisons doesn’t mean that 45% of an offensive lineup should be excluded from the offensive player of the year award when grading every game, every player, every play shows that they are deserving of recognition.
2013-OPOY-mathisFinally getting the wider credit he has deserved for a few seasons now, Evan Mathis is the epitome of a quality offensive lineman. Not focused on occasional dominance or what he “can do”, Mathis is marked by what he does consistently and that is control the man across from him and execute his assignment to a tee.
Some offensive linemen will have their rep built from the occasional highlight-reel block or one big performance, but Mathis’s consistency as a run blocker is what has separated him from his peers at guard in recent years and especially this season. While his pass protection may not have been in line with the very best this year, his run blocking was unparalleled.
Earning a positive grade in every single game this season, Mathis only earned a run block grade below +2.0 four times. By comparison, the league’s next-highest graded run blocker of 2013 (Mathis’ team-mate Todd Herremans) only earned a +2.0 or higher grade as a run blocker seven times and fellow Associated Press first team All-Pro guard Louis Vazquez only did it twice.
While he may not have the statistics to quantify how well he played this season, if you study the tape there is little doubt that he is right up there among the most consistently excellent offensive players in the entire NFL, a fact finally acknowledged with his first AP All-Pro selection to go with his three PFF All-Pro nominations.
1st Runner Up
LeSean McCoy, RB, Philadelphia Eagles
All of the talk entering the season was how Chip Kelly’s system on offense would work in the NFL and how the Eagles’ quarterbacks would be helped or hindered by it. As it happened, Nick Foles came in and ran it very well but the player that it melded most successfully and most spectacularly with was the NFL’s rushing champion, LeSean McCoy.
2013-OPOY-mccoyLaying down a marker in the season-opening Monday Night Football game, McCoy racked up 184 yards and broke nine tackles against the hapless Washington defense to get his 2013 off to a flying start. Taking full advantage of a ground game (both in terms of scheme and the offensive line clearing a path for him) that got him into space often, McCoy made things happen once he was there, finishing the year with 57 missed tackles forced as a runner and breaking off 26 carries that gained 15 yards or more, most in the league by half a dozen.
Pushing him close to the top was his performance when the Eagles needed it most to clinch the division title in the final month of the season. Three of McCoy’s seven 100-yard games came in the final month, including a memorable performance to lift the Eagles to victory in their snow bowl encounter with the Lions early in December. That day he forced eight missed tackles, gained 3.6 yards per carry after contact and crossed the goal line twice.
McCoy was the perfect fit for the Eagles’ offense this season and took full advantage of the excellent blocking from his offensive line especially in the final month of a spectacular season.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
So, how'd the game go? How many winning teams did the Eagles actually beat this year? Good luck with your first place schedule and overrated QB/offense next year.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Would not be overwhelmed to hear he is also a Lakers (maybe now Heat) fan, along with Red Wings in hockey (this would be the team in hockey, right?), UNC in NCAA basketball, Alabama/USC/Miami (depending on the era) for college football....
...so take it all with a grain of salt...
But, for the record as if that makes a difference - Knicks, Islanders (until they move to Brooklyn, Don't really care that much about hockey and the Rangers are fine, too), and the one you can jump on where I am truly a front runner -
UCONN Huskies Basketball!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Basketball program in the last 15 years. Why would UNC be the right basketball program to pick? UCONN has more National Championships than ANYONE in the last 15 years (on top of winning what was the toughest conference in the country the most times until they stupidly imploded it over football). So, you should have picked that as your assumption, and you would have been right!
So, does any of that make the Eagles any better?
EDIT: And BTW, I am a UCONN Alum, so I assume I get a pass on rooting for the best basketball program in the country (did I say that yet?)
you seem confused because this is the 2nd time you have replied to this same exact post. i mean, who does that? both times you have failed to answer my question to you about why you think the eagles were a "crappy team" this year. if you want to try again (using sound football logic and not the pedestrian way of looking at a schedule), go ahead. since you have failed twice, i'm guessing you are unable to do so...and this, sadly puts you in the same position you found yourself in 3 weeks ago. congrats.
poor guy. i guess he is still hung up on the cowboys losing to the eagles, which seems like ages ago now. kinda pathetic. time to move on with your life.
Now, back to the bold part of your statement, and this will probably be the last time I respond to you - the others may more, but I don't know why - but what do you mean does what make the Eagles better? They were 4-12 last year and gained 6 wins. How were they not better? Oh, and that overrated QB got them the lead in that game against NO. Now, I can't speak to the defense, or the fact that a Hall of Famer had the ball with 3 minutes to go, because, yes, they sure did suck with all that.
I think what you're missing in my point of bringing of what I did about your interest in teams is that people like you do not warrant a response. I will gladly debate with a Cowboys fan from a resonable distance from Jerry World, but the likes of your kind are the worst. I'm sure you have a great story about how your grandfather was in the military, earned the Purple Heart in Dubya Dubya 2, was then based in Texas and rescued Tom Landy's dog from a well....and this is why you wore, with pride, that dingy blue and gray Dallas Start pullover when you were picking and eating those snot crusts from your nose while shoveling your driveway in anywhere-it-doesn't-matter New York/Connecticut/Who-gives-a-shit-not-DFW.
As for our discussion on the Eagles - what I meant was - how does the fact of who I like make the Eagles of 2013 any better or worse? Not vs. 2012. Who give a shit about 2012? Does the fact that I like the Cowboys make this year's version of the Eagles any better?
And you're a disgrace to your fahtha.
EDIT: But enough about me. How does what team I like make the Eagles better?
Easy to be a Yanks fan from the jump, though, right?
....Annnnnnd you're a mope.
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/chip-kelly-named-maxwell-club-coach-year
edit---and a year to the date after he was hired too. good stuff.
onward.
upward.
offensively they are in good shape. all they need to add is another, bigger wideout.. foles will drop off a bit next year for sure, but if the d is improved, it will make that more bearable.
on defense, if they can get an elite pass rushing olb to replace cole/graham and either a standout corner or hard hitting safety, they'll be in much better shape. the line did a good job against the run all year--i think the saints game was an anomaly as they played almost the whole game in nickel. billy davis just didn't adjust. i'm fine with the d line. i would love to trade for dion jordan but i doubt that rumor has legs.
i was more dead set on finding a safety until i heard sal palantonio recently say he thinks corner is more important. if you have a shut down corner who you don't even have to worry about, it just takes so much pressure off the rest of the secondary and they become better because of it. solid point. though, thinking of what this d would have been like with earl thomas back there makes me want to puke up my oatmeal right now. i could go either way there.
gonna be fun watching these games tomorrow......but i feel like this is going to be the longest off season EVER.