Back to the OP, which is the USA does more than your average country to help the weak, poor and oppressed. China is rich, you see them coming over to help Haiti? You see them going to help others like we do? NOPE! We are the most charitable and generous PEOPLE by far. Im not talking about our govt. spending! Im talking about the hearts of our people!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
Back to the OP, which is the USA does more than your average country to help the weak, poor and oppressed. China is rich, you see them coming over to help Haiti? You see them going to help others like we do? NOPE! We are the most charitable and generous PEOPLE by far. Im not talking about our govt. spending! Im talking about the hearts of our people!
NOPE! We are the most charitable and generous PEOPLE by far. Im not talking about our govt. spending! Im talking about the hearts of our people!
Can you sent me the machine that counts that??
i want to messure my fellow Greeks to see their charity,generous,hearts level...
i hope arent far behind of the USA..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Back to the OP, which is the USA does more than your average country to help the weak, poor and oppressed. China is rich, you see them coming over to help Haiti? You see them going to help others like we do? NOPE! We are the most charitable and generous PEOPLE by far. Im not talking about our govt. spending! Im talking about the hearts of our people!
not to rain in your little stars and stripes parade, but do you have any stats to back up your "america is the most generous people on earth" claim?
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Back to the OP, which is the USA does more than your average country to help the weak, poor and oppressed. China is rich, you see them coming over to help Haiti? You see them going to help others like we do? NOPE! We are the most charitable and generous PEOPLE by far. Im not talking about our govt. spending! Im talking about the hearts of our people!
not to rain in your little stars and stripes parade, but do you have any stats to back up your "america is the most generous people on earth" claim?
they have the biggest guns!!!they can save us all!!!woot!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Back to the OP, which is the USA does more than your average country to help the weak, poor and oppressed. China is rich, you see them coming over to help Haiti? You see them going to help others like we do? NOPE! We are the most charitable and generous PEOPLE by far. Im not talking about our govt. spending! Im talking about the hearts of our people!
not to rain in your little stars and stripes parade, but do you have any stats to back up your "america is the most generous people on earth" claim?
Lets take a look at what our private sector gave Haiti! Lets look their first! That is our people, not our govt., giving in a way that was on their own watch! Go ahead.....lol check and see! Ill go look and lets see what we come up with.
Also, lets look at Japan's tsunami. ......then, lets look at Africa.....and see how much our private sector and our people give. I challenge you that!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
the world giving index ranks Americans, NOT America, as 5th in the nation behind:
Australia, Ireland, Canada, and New Zealand. In that order.
Yay... we're better!
Oh Caaaannaaadaaa...
shhhhh......we don't brag, remember?
thank you for this link! I didnt see Canada up there on many of the graphs! Did you look into all the charts? USA is up there on Time donated, stangers, and all of them! Thats pretty good! If you look further down....the USA is winning most of them! Thanks!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
thank you for this link! I didnt see Canada up there on many of the graphs! Did you look into all the charts? USA is up there on Time donated, stangers, and all of them! Thats pretty good! If you look further down....the USA is winning most of them! Thanks!
winning? you see this as your country "winning"? is that why you do charity work? to brag about it and "win"? I thought it was supposed to be about the people in need, not the person helping them.
if the US is "winning" all of them, why are there 4 countries, including Canada, above it? just admit it, you were wrong when you said the US had the most generous people on the planet. the facts are before you.
I don't see any Canadians going around saying "hey, we're the nicest people/nation around, we're winning in the nice department!". :?
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
thank you for this link! I didnt see Canada up there on many of the graphs! Did you look into all the charts? USA is up there on Time donated, stangers, and all of them! Thats pretty good! If you look further down....the USA is winning most of them! Thanks!
winning? you see this as your country "winning"? is that why you do charity work? to brag about it and "win"? I thought it was supposed to be about the people in need, not the person helping them.
if the US is "winning" all of them, why are there 4 countries, including Canada, above it? just admit it, you were wrong when you said the US had the most generous people on the planet. the facts are before you.
I don't see any Canadians going around saying "hey, we're the nicest people/nation around, we're winning in the nice department!". :?
You are right! Its not about the person giving....which is why i was talking about a whole country! Yes I give all the nations on this credit.....i do! As Americans become more pressed for work and money and bills, we will probabaly drop in the ratings regarding this....so I dont expect us to be number one....I like all the nations on the list that are up top!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
The USA is a great country... I love it and it is my home. It's not as free as it once was and is constantly made to look like shit because of the actions of our politicians. Our bribery and threats worldwide certainly needs to stop. We have our own problems at home... we need not waste time, money, energy, and precious lives by continuing to police the world. The world would do just fine without us.... it has for billions of years.
The USA is a great country... I love it and it is my home. It's not as free as it once was and is constantly made to look like shit because of the actions of our politicians. Our bribery and threats worldwide certainly needs to stop. We have our own problems at home... we need not waste time, money, energy, and precious lives by continuing to police the world. The world would do just fine without us.... it has for billions of years.
very nicely said.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
The USA is a great country... I love it and it is my home. It's not as free as it once was and is constantly made to look like shit because of the actions of our politicians. Our bribery and threats worldwide certainly needs to stop. We have our own problems at home... we need not waste time, money, energy, and precious lives by continuing to police the world. The world would do just fine without us.... it has for billions of years.
Smart fella.
As to being so altruistic, well yes - we are a charitable country. So are others. So are people, in general, regardless of locale.
Over the holidays, Scify (why did they change the spelling, fer fuck's sake? I don't even know how to spell it anymore. Thanks, textfuckers) had a Twilight Zone marathon - showed one of my favorites, aside from the one with Ida Lupino...the "People Are Alike All Over" one, with Roddy McDowell.
We're really all not so different, are we? Cultures, beliefs, love, hatred, music - common bonds, for better or worse.
The USA is a great country... I love it and it is my home. It's not as free as it once was and is constantly made to look like shit because of the actions of our politicians. Our bribery and threats worldwide certainly needs to stop. We have our own problems at home... we need not waste time, money, energy, and precious lives by continuing to police the world. The world would do just fine without us.... it has for billions of years.
very nicely said.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The USA is a great country... I love it and it is my home. It's not as free as it once was and is constantly made to look like shit because of the actions of our politicians. Our bribery and threats worldwide certainly needs to stop. We have our own problems at home... we need not waste time, money, energy, and precious lives by continuing to police the world. The world would do just fine without us.... it has for billions of years.
Smart fella.
As to being so altruistic, well yes - we are a charitable country. So are others. So are people, in general, regardless of locale.
Over the holidays, Scify (why did they change the spelling, fer fuck's sake? I don't even know how to spell it anymore. Thanks, textfuckers) had a Twilight Zone marathon - showed one of my favorites, aside from the one with Ida Lupino...the "People Are Alike All Over" one, with Roddy McDowell.
We're really all not so different, are we? Cultures, beliefs, love, hatred, music - common bonds, for better or worse.
Its about preserving the individualism that defines our identities! The purpose of Freedom and Liberty is about letting you become you! For you to be the person you are supposed to be! The freedom provides you with an opportunity to explore, defend and promote your "goodness", "character" and "identity". Once you perfect your pursuit from having the freedom to do so, you have become the person that God intends for you to be. If you do not get that chance, then you were oppressed, contained and suppressed. You were used by Satan as a number. You are just a number! That is the goal of Satan.....to take away your god given talents and your name.....to make you a number.
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
Back to the OP, which is the USA does more than your average country to help the weak, poor and oppressed. China is rich, you see them coming over to help Haiti? You see them going to help others like we do? NOPE! We are the most charitable and generous PEOPLE by far. Im not talking about our govt. spending! Im talking about the hearts of our people!
Those who don't know history....
You vaunt your nation's humanitarian actions in HAITI of all places? I have to wonder if you did any googling of Haiti's history like you did for Papua New Guinea? If you had, I think you might have changed your example. It is the country most devastated by imperialism in the entire western hemisphere.
The point made repeatedly in this thread, which you keep choosing to ignore, is that you are not seeing the greater picture AT ALL. You can't ignore this shit and continue to stand on a soapbox proclaiming your nations' greatness in comparison to all others. You just cant.
Haiti has been oppressed by 'western civilization' for over 200 YEARS. There was a coup organized by the US and Canada just 8 years ago! viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121768&hilit=+haiti
The REASON the Haitian quake was so devastating is because of extreme poverty caused by the policies of imperialist powers - western civilization, over the the last 200+ YEARS, ...decades of which the US has played a leading role.
I. Root, but Less Visible Causes of Haitian Misery
The ultimate causes of Haiti's misery are human. They are rooted in greed and power. Both the international community and Haiti's rulers have continuously assured the destruction of Haiti's colonial wealth and the creation and continuance of her misery.
A. The international community's role.
1.French colonial contribution.
2.The international boycott of the new nation of 1804.
3.The French debt of 1838.
4.The United States Occupation, 1915-1934.
5.Post World War II United States domination.
B. The role of Haiti's rulers.
1.Slave-like labor systems in the early republic.
2.The elite's protection of its wealth.
3.Haitian corruption.
4.Human rights violations as a tool of oppression.
...............
4. THE UNITED STATES OCCUPATION OF 1915-1938.
Perhaps the most serious blow Haiti ever had to her independence and self-image was the occupation of the United States Marines in 1915. The marines took over control of the collection of revenues, the banks, and forced through a new "Haitian" constitution which repealed the 1804 provision that foreigners could never own land in Haiti. The U.S. decided who would and would not be government servants. The only factor of Haitian life which seemed to escape U.S. domination was education. The elite's identification with French culture was too strong for even the marines to overcome and the schools remained French in language and structure.
5.POST WORLD WAR II UNITED STATES DOMINATION.
The occupation ended in 1934. However, the U.S. presence in both the economy and internal government affairs was well established. Ever since the occupation and increasingly since 1946, the United States, through the power of its aid packages, has played a central role in Haitian politics. In this way the U.S. has contributed to the misery of Haiti since it has given oppressive governments comfortable aid packages which kept these rulers in power. The United States was not interested in furthering Haitian misery itself, rather this is the price the U.S. has had to pay to keep friendly governments in power so that American military, propaganda and economic interests could be served. The result may well have served the interests of U.S. control in the region, but the issue here is the cause of Haitian misery. U.S. backed governments have certainly been a major factor in this suffering.
Its about preserving the individualism that defines our identities! The purpose of Freedom and Liberty is about letting you become you! For you to be the person you are supposed to be! The freedom provides you with an opportunity to explore, defend and promote your "goodness", "character" and "identity". Once you perfect your pursuit from having the freedom to do so, you have become the person that God intends for you to be. If you do not get that chance, then you were oppressed, contained and suppressed. You were used by Satan as a number. You are just a number! That is the goal of Satan.....to take away your god given talents and your name.....to make you a number.
its all Iron Maiden fault....
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It always amazes me to learn there are still people in the World who actually believe Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald. I wonder why those magic bullets he used still haven't entered general circulation? :think:
Then again, this is someone who believes the Earth is a BP filling station.
Back to the OP, which is the USA does more than your average country to help the weak, poor and oppressed. China is rich, you see them coming over to help Haiti? You see them going to help others like we do? NOPE!
Yeah, I do. They were first on the job in Japan after the earthquake and supplied more men and materials than any other country.
Lets take a look at what our private sector gave Haiti! Lets look their first! That is our people, not our govt., giving in a way that was on their own watch! Go ahead.....lol check and see! Ill go look and lets see what we come up with.
'...not only has the promised long-term reconstruction barely begun, but poverty is increasing, violent crime rising and 358,000 people remain stuck in the squalor of tent camps, lucky to eat one meal a day. Thousands more families were forcibly evicted with nowhere to go, and the cholera was imported – allegedly by the UN – which has killed more than 7,800 Haitians so far..
You are right! Its not about the person giving....which is why i was talking about a whole country! Yes I give all the nations on this credit.....i do! As Americans become more pressed for work and money and bills, we will probabaly drop in the ratings regarding this....so I dont expect us to be number one....I like all the nations on the list that are up top!
Its about preserving the individualism that defines our identities! The purpose of Freedom and Liberty is about letting you become you! For you to be the person you are supposed to be! The freedom provides you with an opportunity to explore, defend and promote your "goodness", "character" and "identity". Once you perfect your pursuit from having the freedom to do so, you have become the person that God intends for you to be. If you do not get that chance, then you were oppressed, contained and suppressed. You were used by Satan as a number. You are just a number! That is the goal of Satan.....to take away your god given talents and your name.....to make you a number.
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A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
Damn straight!!
USA USA USA
i want to messure my fellow Greeks to see their charity,generous,hearts level...
i hope arent far behind of the USA..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
not to rain in your little stars and stripes parade, but do you have any stats to back up your "america is the most generous people on earth" claim?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Australia, Ireland, Canada, and New Zealand. In that order.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Lets take a look at what our private sector gave Haiti! Lets look their first! That is our people, not our govt., giving in a way that was on their own watch! Go ahead.....lol check and see! Ill go look and lets see what we come up with.
Also, lets look at Japan's tsunami. ......then, lets look at Africa.....and see how much our private sector and our people give. I challenge you that!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
Yay... we're better!
Oh Caaaannaaadaaa...
this is from 2011.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
shhhhh......we don't brag, remember?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Well! Fuck me!
thank you for this link! I didnt see Canada up there on many of the graphs! Did you look into all the charts? USA is up there on Time donated, stangers, and all of them! Thats pretty good! If you look further down....the USA is winning most of them! Thanks!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
winning? you see this as your country "winning"? is that why you do charity work? to brag about it and "win"? I thought it was supposed to be about the people in need, not the person helping them.
if the US is "winning" all of them, why are there 4 countries, including Canada, above it? just admit it, you were wrong when you said the US had the most generous people on the planet. the facts are before you.
I don't see any Canadians going around saying "hey, we're the nicest people/nation around, we're winning in the nice department!". :?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
You are right! Its not about the person giving....which is why i was talking about a whole country! Yes I give all the nations on this credit.....i do! As Americans become more pressed for work and money and bills, we will probabaly drop in the ratings regarding this....so I dont expect us to be number one....I like all the nations on the list that are up top!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
very nicely said.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
As to being so altruistic, well yes - we are a charitable country. So are others. So are people, in general, regardless of locale.
Over the holidays, Scify (why did they change the spelling, fer fuck's sake? I don't even know how to spell it anymore. Thanks, textfuckers) had a Twilight Zone marathon - showed one of my favorites, aside from the one with Ida Lupino...the "People Are Alike All Over" one, with Roddy McDowell.
We're really all not so different, are we? Cultures, beliefs, love, hatred, music - common bonds, for better or worse.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68vttSsr-ds
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
You vaunt your nation's humanitarian actions in HAITI of all places? I have to wonder if you did any googling of Haiti's history like you did for Papua New Guinea? If you had, I think you might have changed your example. It is the country most devastated by imperialism in the entire western hemisphere.
The point made repeatedly in this thread, which you keep choosing to ignore, is that you are not seeing the greater picture AT ALL. You can't ignore this shit and continue to stand on a soapbox proclaiming your nations' greatness in comparison to all others. You just cant.
Haiti has been oppressed by 'western civilization' for over 200 YEARS. There was a coup organized by the US and Canada just 8 years ago!
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121768&hilit=+haiti
The REASON the Haitian quake was so devastating is because of extreme poverty caused by the policies of imperialist powers - western civilization, over the the last 200+ YEARS, ...decades of which the US has played a leading role.
WHY IS HAITI SO POOR?
http://www2.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti ... hypoor.htm
I. Root, but Less Visible Causes of Haitian Misery
The ultimate causes of Haiti's misery are human. They are rooted in greed and power. Both the international community and Haiti's rulers have continuously assured the destruction of Haiti's colonial wealth and the creation and continuance of her misery.
A. The international community's role.
1.French colonial contribution.
2.The international boycott of the new nation of 1804.
3.The French debt of 1838.
4.The United States Occupation, 1915-1934.
5.Post World War II United States domination.
B. The role of Haiti's rulers.
1.Slave-like labor systems in the early republic.
2.The elite's protection of its wealth.
3.Haitian corruption.
4.Human rights violations as a tool of oppression.
...............
4. THE UNITED STATES OCCUPATION OF 1915-1938.
Perhaps the most serious blow Haiti ever had to her independence and self-image was the occupation of the United States Marines in 1915. The marines took over control of the collection of revenues, the banks, and forced through a new "Haitian" constitution which repealed the 1804 provision that foreigners could never own land in Haiti. The U.S. decided who would and would not be government servants. The only factor of Haitian life which seemed to escape U.S. domination was education. The elite's identification with French culture was too strong for even the marines to overcome and the schools remained French in language and structure.
5.POST WORLD WAR II UNITED STATES DOMINATION.
The occupation ended in 1934. However, the U.S. presence in both the economy and internal government affairs was well established. Ever since the occupation and increasingly since 1946, the United States, through the power of its aid packages, has played a central role in Haitian politics. In this way the U.S. has contributed to the misery of Haiti since it has given oppressive governments comfortable aid packages which kept these rulers in power. The United States was not interested in furthering Haitian misery itself, rather this is the price the U.S. has had to pay to keep friendly governments in power so that American military, propaganda and economic interests could be served. The result may well have served the interests of U.S. control in the region, but the issue here is the cause of Haitian misery. U.S. backed governments have certainly been a major factor in this suffering.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It always amazes me to learn there are still people in the World who actually believe Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald. I wonder why those magic bullets he used still haven't entered general circulation? :think:
Then again, this is someone who believes the Earth is a BP filling station.
Yeah, I do. They were first on the job in Japan after the earthquake and supplied more men and materials than any other country.
Funny you should mention Haiti: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... NTCMP=SRCH
'...not only has the promised long-term reconstruction barely begun, but poverty is increasing, violent crime rising and 358,000 people remain stuck in the squalor of tent camps, lucky to eat one meal a day. Thousands more families were forcibly evicted with nowhere to go, and the cholera was imported – allegedly by the UN – which has killed more than 7,800 Haitians so far..
Oh dear. Holy shit. And Mother of 12 Bastards.
And the plot thickens!