Im asking all those who are from other countries what they think about this philosophy! Dont think of your country in particular, think of all the weak, poor nations here. If you are from the US, sit back and watch this thread for once! Dont sabatoge it! Also, if you dont believe in God, thats fine, read on anyways.
I believe that God's intentions for all of mankind is for his children to have Individual Liberty and Freedom to pursue their own Individual Salvation and their own identity. We as the United States have formed a country that empowers the individuals and states to control and hold to account the central govt. The US is blessed by God to have the unique opportunity and responsibility to defend the weak and poor, promote Liberty and Freedom, stand for "The People" over any centralized power or govt. within that nation. We are to stand on these principles and values to help the people who are oppressed by their govt! The weak, poor and sick people of the world have hope that we are fighting for them on many different levels. We are blessed to have the capability to do what we do! We acknowledge that blessing and are thankful for having that unique responsibilty and opportunity. This is what I have learned and envision to be American Exceptionalism!
Again, for all you haters out there....we are thankful and blessed for this opportunity, this is not us being "prideful"
This is us understanding our role and being grateful for it!
Your thoughts?
please , as a fellow american, speak only for yourself.
IMO its the height of human ego to claim to know the will of god. The ideas of democracy and liberty etc , did not originate with the founding rich guys of their day.
this country was founded upon stolen ideas from others, land stolen from another people, built up on the backs of slaves.
I believe the world would be better served if the US stayed home and shut the fuck up in the process.
I view as suspicious anything or anyone who shows up with their hand out saying "we're here to help you"
So please OP speak only for yourself and not for me.
Well well well....lol ok. You werent invited to respond in the OP as an American. The OP even said so!
Now lets take a look! "Stolen Ideas" May I ask who's ideas did we steal?
land stolen? Maybe some of it, but do you think that the natives needed the entire continent? If so, what about all the other migration that has taken place in the world, including now?
Backs of slaves? Maybe 1/2 of the labor at some point was from slaves, but that was also the case in many nations through many centuries. There was a high demand for work. Its the natural evolution that happened in an uncivilized world. America didnt invent slavery bud!
"The founding rich guys of their day"? or educated men of their day is what I say.
So you give the founders and the founding ZERO relevance and ZERO meaning? WOW OK THERE BUD! You dont seem out of touch now!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
Im asking all those who are from other countries what they think about this philosophy! Dont think of your country in particular, think of all the weak, poor nations here. If you are from the US, sit back and watch this thread for once! Dont sabatoge it! Also, if you dont believe in God, thats fine, read on anyways.
I believe that God's intentions for all of mankind is for his children to have Individual Liberty and Freedom to pursue their own Individual Salvation and their own identity. We as the United States have formed a country that empowers the individuals and states to control and hold to account the central govt. The US is blessed by God to have the unique opportunity and responsibility to defend the weak and poor, promote Liberty and Freedom, stand for "The People" over any centralized power or govt. within that nation. We are to stand on these principles and values to help the people who are oppressed by their govt! The weak, poor and sick people of the world have hope that we are fighting for them on many different levels. We are blessed to have the capability to do what we do! We acknowledge that blessing and are thankful for having that unique responsibilty and opportunity. This is what I have learned and envision to be American Exceptionalism!
Again, for all you haters out there....we are thankful and blessed for this opportunity, this is not us being "prideful"
This is us understanding our role and being grateful for it!
Your thoughts?
please , as a fellow american, speak only for yourself.
IMO its the height of human ego to claim to know the will of god. The ideas of democracy and liberty etc , did not originate with the founding rich guys of their day.
this country was founded upon stolen ideas from others, land stolen from another people, built up on the backs of slaves.
I believe the world would be better served if the US stayed home and shut the fuck up in the process.
I view as suspicious anything or anyone who shows up with their hand out saying "we're here to help you"
So please OP speak only for yourself and not for me.
Well well well....lol ok. You werent invited to respond in the OP as an American. The OP even said so!
Now lets take a look! "Stolen Ideas" May I ask who's ideas did we steal?
land stolen? Maybe some of it, but do you think that the natives needed the entire continent? If so, what about all the other migration that has taken place in the world, including now?
Backs of slaves? Maybe 1/2 of the labor at some point was from slaves, but that was also the case in many nations through many centuries. There was a high demand for work. Its the natural evolution that happened in an uncivilized world. America didnt invent slavery bud!
"The founding rich guys of their day"? or educated men of their day is what I say.
So you give the founders and the founding ZERO relevance and ZERO meaning? WOW OK THERE BUD! You dont seem out of touch now!
soooo, you would tell me I dont have free speech now? IF this country actually practiced what we hold so dear and preach then I would have something else to say.
The simple fact is this country was founded upon exploiting the weak. Tell me, how christian is this?
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
if it weren't for the US then Germany would have won the 2nd World War and all our lives would be completely different. If it weren't for the US the Soviet Union would have swept through Europe and all our lives would be completely different
So on one hand you claim that Germany would have won the war without the intervention of the U.S - simply not true - and in the very next sentence you claim that the Soviets would have swept through Europe.
No contradiction there then.
Intervention by the US won the war. Russia beat em back but if not for US Nazis would have continued their domination of West Europe. Once France fell that was it. Italy was done and the Germans were in Africa. That's it Fort Pitt Russia had no interest in saving Europe Stalin had other (ruthless and despicable) plans. Then with the resources of Europe (natural and human) they would have kept up with Hitler's plan.
right no contradiction. First the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia then defeated Russia when they dropped the iron curtain. Historically US protects the rights, freedom, and liberty of all people (if they want it).
There is only one chance of world peace....western civilization.
Intervention by the US won the war....the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia then defeated Russia when they dropped the iron curtain.
Absolute nonsense.
9 out of every 10 German soldiers killed in the war were killed on Russian soil. And the Germans had already been beaten back at Moscow before the U.S even joined the war. The tide was already turning in the Russians favour at that point. And Stalingrad was the key battle of WWII.
Seriously, I don't think I've ever heard a more ignorant and arrogant statement as 'the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia'.
Historically US protects the rights, freedom, and liberty of all people (if they want it).
Tell that to the Chileans, Vietnamese, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, El Salvadoreans, Panamanians, Iraqi's, Lebanese, and Palestinians.
Seriously, let's just take a couple of examples from the list above. Do you think that overthrowing the democratically elected Chilean leader Salvador Allende and replacing him with a brutal dictator constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Chilean people?
Do you think that funding, training, arming, and defending death squads in Guatemala when they were carrying out genocide against the indigenous civilian population constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Guatamalan people?
Just what topsy-turvy World do you inhabit my friend?
Intervention by the US won the war....the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia then defeated Russia when they dropped the iron curtain.
Absolute nonsense.
9 out of every 10 German soldiers killed in the war were killed on Russian soil. And the Germans had already been beaten back at Moscow before the U.S even joined the war. The tide was already turning in the Russians favour at that point. And Stalingrad was the key battle of WWII.
Seriously, I don't think I've ever heard a more ignorant and arrogant statement as 'the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia'.
Historically US protects the rights, freedom, and liberty of all people (if they want it).
Tell that to the Chileans, Vietnamese, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, El Salvadoreans, Panamanians, Iraqi's, Lebanese, and Palestinians.
Seriously, let's just take a couple of examples from the list above. Do you think that overthrowing the democratically elected Chilean leader Salvador Allende and replacing him with a brutal dictator constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Chilean people?
Do you think that funding, training, arming, and defending death squads in Guatemala when they were carrying out genocide against the indigenous civilian population constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Chilean people?
Just what topsy-turvy World do you inhabit my friend?
I had prepared a response to some of these naive assertions and then just deleted it. I'm glad I did. This post says it well. I guarantee it will be ignored though.
Intervention by the US won the war....the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia then defeated Russia when they dropped the iron curtain.
Absolute nonsense.
9 out of every 10 German soldiers killed in the war were killed on Russian soil. And the Germans had already been beaten back at Moscow before the U.S even joined the war. The tide was already turning in the Russians favour at that point. And Stalingrad was the key battle of WWII.
Seriously, I don't think I've ever heard a more ignorant and arrogant statement as 'the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia'.
Historically US protects the rights, freedom, and liberty of all people (if they want it).
Tell that to the Chileans, Vietnamese, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, El Salvadoreans, Panamanians, Iraqi's, Lebanese, and Palestinians.
Seriously, let's just take a couple of examples from the list above. Do you think that overthrowing the democratically elected Chilean leader Salvador Allende and replacing him with a brutal dictator constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Chilean people?
Do you think that funding, training, arming, and defending death squads in Guatemala when they were carrying out genocide against the indigenous civilian population constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Chilean people?
Just what topsy-turvy World do you inhabit my friend?
You have to forgive us. We are brought up being taught that we are the best and the shining light of the world. Saving all because of our huge heart...... looking after the downtrodden. (ecxept our own)
We grow up singing the national anthem at school, sporting events, reciting the "pledge of allegiance" to the flag under god...... as children.
Some can get over that propaganda and indoctrination and others can't. Throw in Some religious zealotry of it being the US' divine right it and gets even more creepy.
Intervention by the US won the war....the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia then defeated Russia when they dropped the iron curtain.
Absolute nonsense.
9 out of every 10 German soldiers killed in the war were killed on Russian soil. And the Germans had already been beaten back at Moscow before the U.S even joined the war. The tide was already turning in the Russians favour at that point. And Stalingrad was the key battle of WWII.
Seriously, I don't think I've ever heard a more ignorant and arrogant statement as 'the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia'.
Historically US protects the rights, freedom, and liberty of all people (if they want it).
Tell that to the Chileans, Vietnamese, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, El Salvadoreans, Panamanians, Iraqi's, Lebanese, and Palestinians.
Seriously, let's just take a couple of examples from the list above. Do you think that overthrowing the democratically elected Chilean leader Salvador Allende and replacing him with a brutal dictator constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Chilean people?
Do you think that funding, training, arming, and defending death squads in Guatemala when they were carrying out genocide against the indigenous civilian population constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Guatamalan people?
Just what topsy-turvy World do you inhabit my friend?
I'm so fucken glad steve takes the time out to respond with facts. People need to know the truth and I applaud you buddy. Sad thing is these blind sheep will continue with there "rah rah rah." I'm sorry but if your country or ANY country, has been in some kind of war for 215 years out of 236 years of exsistance, then you're doing something wrong. That's 22 years of peace out of 236 years of exsisting. Think about it.
You have to forgive us. We are brought up being taught that we are the best and the shining light of the world. Saving all because of our huge heart...... looking after the downtrodden. (ecxept our own)
We grow up singing the national anthem at school, sporting events, reciting the "pledge of allegiance" to the flag under god...... as children.
Some can get over that propaganda and indoctrination and others can't. Throw in Some religious zealotry of it being the US' divine right it and gets even more creepy.
Wow, this post was great. Lived it and thankfully woke up from it.
You have to forgive us. We are brought up being taught that we are the best and the shining light of the world. Saving all because of our huge heart...... looking after the downtrodden. (ecxept our own)
We grow up singing the national anthem at school, sporting events, reciting the "pledge of allegiance" to the flag under god...... as children.
Some can get over that propaganda and indoctrination and others can't. Throw in Some religious zealotry of it being the US' divine right it and gets even more creepy.
Wow, this post was great. Lived it and thankfully woke up from it.
It truly is. I compare such closed minds to those of people immersed in a cult: when they are in- they are 'all in'. They truly cannot see the bigger picture, nor do they care to look. A fully indoctrinated belief set or good, solid, brainwashing if you prefer. For those that wake up: they have an entirely different perpsective.
Critical thinking is the number one skill we seek to teach our students to prepare them for the responsibilities they will face as adults. We need critical thinkers now more than ever when you consider the way the world has evolved and the challenges we face as a global society in the coming years.
Just victims of the in-house drive-by. They say jump, you say how high.
You have to forgive us. We are brought up being taught that we are the best and the shining light of the world. Saving all because of our huge heart...... looking after the downtrodden. (ecxept our own)
We grow up singing the national anthem at school, sporting events, reciting the "pledge of allegiance" to the flag under god...... as children.
Some can get over that propaganda and indoctrination and others can't. Throw in Some religious zealotry of it being the US' divine right it and gets even more creepy.
I think we save a hell of a lot more than this post indicates. We are far from perfect as a nation but we are better than many. And there is no harm in pledging allegiance or singing the national anthem as a child in this country because when you become an adult you are free to stop anytime you like. To say that children are indoctrinated and that many cannot break out of it is a bit of a stretch.
There is only one chance of world peace....western civilization.
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What other chance is there for world peace? The only way I can think of is if the Arab people are exposed to western civilization. If they were they would surely embrace it because it is their leaders who isolate the people. The Arabs are people just like us; they don't want to kill us. But if they only know what they are told by the extreme leaders that is all they know.
Western Civ is better than Sharia Law right? Imagine...Egypt is about to be a Sharia nation. That is so freaking scary. Well at least for the women and those who believe in a different profit.
There is only one chance of world peace....western civilization.
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What other chance is there for world peace? The only way I can think of is if the Arab people are exposed to western civilization.
Nice job of managing to completely fail to address any of the points raised on the previous page.
At the risk of failing to mention many similar such examples; Western civilization gave us genocide in the America's, genocide in Australia, the slave trade, the exploitation and butchery that took place in Africa and India, WWI, WWII (including the Jewish Holocaust, and the Ukrainian famine), Vietnam (which saw an estimated 2 million Vietnamese killed), a decade of U.S-backed slaughter in Latin America, Vietnam, Iraq (both the first Iraq War, ten years of devastating sanctions that resulted in approx half a million children dying, and the second Iraq War, which saw over 1 million dead Iraqi's and between 4-5 million refugees), e.t.c, e.t.c.
Oh, and Western 'Civilization' has also managed to successfully bring the Earths environment to the point of complete destruction (our plundering of the planets resources has now reached critical proportions).
Yep, definitely an example to be envious of. I bet those ignorant, pesky A-rabs would really love nothing better than to be just like 'us'.
What other chance is there for world peace? The only way I can think of is if the Arab people are exposed to western civilization.
Personally, I'd prefer for all peoples to be better exposed to the beliefs and teachings of indigenous populations, such as the original inhabitants of Australia and the America's.
(Not quite sure where all the hostility towards Arabs has been coming from lately on this message board. But then I suppose there are people who will always need an enemy, even if it means inventing one).
And one more thing, the West's overabundance of material wealth simply wouldn't exist if it weren't for it's exploitation of the 'Third World', through a well-documented process of economic imperialism, the backing of Western-friendly dictators, and outright aggression.
It is freezing where I am no global warming here. Why aren't you overjoyed that the "scientists" who scared you were proved to be lying? I don't understand why global warming believers refuse to acknowledge the news that says the planted is okay. It is impossible to "plunder" the worlds resources. The amount of oil, coal, and gas in this big blue marble is unfathomable, we have only scratched the surface of oil. All that using oil does is transfer carbon, it's no big deal dude. This will make you nuts I'm sure but I'll write it anyway...I think the Earth makes oil from within. My theory is just as plausible as any that you believe. Think about it...plate tectonics moves the stuff on the surface to the inside of the planet. I think all this carbon on the surface gets cooked by the hot interior and produces gas, coal, and oil. So it is impossible to use it all up.
Your characterization of Western Civ is tired and boring. How about right now? You whine about wealth distribution being unfair; it is incomprehensible to us because our poorest have more than 50% of the people in the Arab nations. And "war on women"? There is a true war on women in the Mid-East.
And why do you write A-rab? Is that some racist way of pronouncing Arab?
You lefty libs are the most racist, bulling, unfair, uncaring people around. Why do you hate the country you live in? That's wacked!
It is freezing where I am no global warming here. Why aren't you overjoyed that the "scientists" who scared you were proved to be lying? I don't understand why global warming believers refuse to acknowledge the news that says the planted is okay. It is impossible to "plunder" the worlds resources. The amount of oil, coal, and gas in this big blue marble is unfathomable, we have only scratched the surface of oil. All that using oil does is transfer carbon, it's no big deal dude. This will make you nuts I'm sure but I'll write it anyway...I think the Earth makes oil from within. My theory is just as plausible as any that you believe. Think about it...plate tectonics moves the stuff on the surface to the inside of the planet. I think all this carbon on the surface gets cooked by the hot interior and produces gas, coal, and oil. So it is impossible to use it all up.
Your characterization of Western Civ is tired and boring. How about right now? You whine about wealth distribution being unfair; it is incomprehensible to us because our poorest have more than 50% of the people in the Arab nations. And "war on women"? There is a true war on women in the Mid-East.
And why do you write A-rab? Is that some racist way of pronouncing Arab?
You lefty libs are the most racist, bulling, unfair, uncaring people around. Why do you hate the country you live in? That's wacked!
another gem!
I love the country I live in. I respect it. But I dont want to force it all over the world. What we've done in some places is a travesty. We should pull our tail between our legs and hide under the sheets after the lies and ridiculous amounts of money spent on Iraq in the last decade.
And I will NEVER take anyone seriously who says its impossible to plunder our worlds resources. :roll: :? That's possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this site.
It is freezing where I am no global warming here. Why aren't you overjoyed that the "scientists" who scared you were proved to be lying? I don't understand why global warming believers refuse to acknowledge the news that says the planted is okay. It is impossible to "plunder" the worlds resources. The amount of oil, coal, and gas in this big blue marble is unfathomable, we have only scratched the surface of oil. All that using oil does is transfer carbon, it's no big deal dude. This will make you nuts I'm sure but I'll write it anyway...I think the Earth makes oil from within. My theory is just as plausible as any that you believe. Think about it...plate tectonics moves the stuff on the surface to the inside of the planet. I think all this carbon on the surface gets cooked by the hot interior and produces gas, coal, and oil. So it is impossible to use it all up.
Your characterization of Western Civ is tired and boring. How about right now? You whine about wealth distribution being unfair; it is incomprehensible to us because our poorest have more than 50% of the people in the Arab nations. And "war on women"? There is a true war on women in the Mid-East.
And why do you write A-rab? Is that some racist way of pronouncing Arab?
You lefty libs are the most racist, bulling, unfair, uncaring people around. Why do you hate the country you live in? That's wacked!
another gem!
I love the country I live in. I respect it. But I dont want to force it all over the world. What we've done in some places is a travesty. We should pull our tail between our legs and hide under the sheets after the lies and ridiculous amounts of money spent on Iraq in the last decade.
And I will NEVER take anyone seriously who says its impossible to plunder our worlds resources. :roll: :? That's possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this site.
What makes you think that there is any less oil now than there was 100 years ago? Because it is being used? Nobody knows where it comes from it's all speculation.
I don't want to force it either but don't you think opressed people would choose it? I do.
It is freezing where I am no global warming here. Why aren't you overjoyed that the "scientists" who scared you were proved to be lying? I don't understand why global warming believers refuse to acknowledge the news that says the planted is okay. It is impossible to "plunder" the worlds resources. The amount of oil, coal, and gas in this big blue marble is unfathomable, we have only scratched the surface of oil. All that using oil does is transfer carbon, it's no big deal dude. This will make you nuts I'm sure but I'll write it anyway...I think the Earth makes oil from within. My theory is just as plausible as any that you believe. Think about it...plate tectonics moves the stuff on the surface to the inside of the planet. I think all this carbon on the surface gets cooked by the hot interior and produces gas, coal, and oil. So it is impossible to use it all up.
Your characterization of Western Civ is tired and boring. How about right now? You whine about wealth distribution being unfair; it is incomprehensible to us because our poorest have more than 50% of the people in the Arab nations. And "war on women"? There is a true war on women in the Mid-East.
And why do you write A-rab? Is that some racist way of pronouncing Arab?
You lefty libs are the most racist, bulling, unfair, uncaring people around. Why do you hate the country you live in? That's wacked!
climate change is a myth? interesting. the earth makes oil? interesting. are you a scientist?
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
It is freezing where I am no global warming here. Why aren't you overjoyed that the "scientists" who scared you were proved to be lying? I don't understand why global warming believers refuse to acknowledge the news that says the planted is okay. It is impossible to "plunder" the worlds resources. The amount of oil, coal, and gas in this big blue marble is unfathomable, we have only scratched the surface of oil. All that using oil does is transfer carbon, it's no big deal dude. This will make you nuts I'm sure but I'll write it anyway...I think the Earth makes oil from within. My theory is just as plausible as any that you believe. Think about it...plate tectonics moves the stuff on the surface to the inside of the planet. I think all this carbon on the surface gets cooked by the hot interior and produces gas, coal, and oil. So it is impossible to use it all up.
Your characterization of Western Civ is tired and boring. How about right now? You whine about wealth distribution being unfair; it is incomprehensible to us because our poorest have more than 50% of the people in the Arab nations. And "war on women"? There is a true war on women in the Mid-East.
And why do you write A-rab? Is that some racist way of pronouncing Arab?
You lefty libs are the most racist, bulling, unfair, uncaring people around. Why do you hate the country you live in? That's wacked!
climate change is a myth? interesting. the earth makes oil? interesting. are you a scientist?
Sort of. Think for yourself don't believe everything you hear. The climate change thing is just a way to scare people into voting for some moron. It's a conspirisy theory like the grassy knoll.
It is freezing where I am no global warming here. Why aren't you overjoyed that the "scientists" who scared you were proved to be lying? I don't understand why global warming believers refuse to acknowledge the news that says the planted is okay. It is impossible to "plunder" the worlds resources. The amount of oil, coal, and gas in this big blue marble is unfathomable, we have only scratched the surface of oil. All that using oil does is transfer carbon, it's no big deal dude. This will make you nuts I'm sure but I'll write it anyway...I think the Earth makes oil from within. My theory is just as plausible as any that you believe. Think about it...plate tectonics moves the stuff on the surface to the inside of the planet. I think all this carbon on the surface gets cooked by the hot interior and produces gas, coal, and oil. So it is impossible to use it all up.
Your characterization of Western Civ is tired and boring. How about right now? You whine about wealth distribution being unfair; it is incomprehensible to us because our poorest have more than 50% of the people in the Arab nations. And "war on women"? There is a true war on women in the Mid-East.
And why do you write A-rab? Is that some racist way of pronouncing Arab?
You lefty libs are the most racist, bulling, unfair, uncaring people around. Why do you hate the country you live in? That's wacked!
climate change is a myth? interesting. the earth makes oil? interesting. are you a scientist?
Sort of. Think for yourself don't believe everything you hear. The climate change thing is just a way to scare people into voting for some moron. It's a conspirisy theory like the grassy knoll.
I do think for myself, thanks. how can you be "sort of" a scientist? do you know what a fossil fuel is?
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
So what? its 85 degree F here and humid. Do people really still say this stuff to make themselves feel better about how we abused our planet in the past?
What makes you think that there is any less oil now than there was 100 years ago? Because it is being used? Nobody knows where it comes from it's all speculation.
Ok, I admit, Im no scientist. But you can google this all day long…and I’d just be slightly more willing to believe the majority of scientists than this idea of yours, (although I have heard theories like this…no offense, it sure is creative, a Swarzeneggar movie indeed!):
...I think the Earth makes oil from within. My theory is just as plausible as any that you believe. Think about it...plate tectonics moves the stuff on the surface to the inside of the planet. I think all this carbon on the surface gets cooked by the hot interior and produces gas, coal, and oil. So it is impossible to use it all up.
But neither theory is perfect. Your theory has just as many holes and could be wrong. Would you rather be prepared for it, or one day just go: “oh shit, we’re out of oil..”
While our forests are dwindling and our oceans are suffering…
YES, some resources are finite, some damage irreparable.
Yeah. The accepted theory is that oil came from dead dinosaurs. I think that is ridiculous. The dinosaur thing is just a theory; nobody knows where oil comes from or exactly what it is. So my theory is just as plausible. But if you believe my theory there is nothing to be afraid of and that is bad news for politicians.
What is a scientist in your eyes? Someone who got a degree from some expensive college? These assholes think they are the smartest people in the world and spout off their bullshit and if you don’t believe them you are stupid. Exactly the same as the morons on tv who never shut up about politics. We are supposed to believe everything they say. Well I say fuck ‘em And think for myself.
The "scientists" have been telling us for years that we are almost out of oil. Then gigantic bubbles are discovered.
Yeah. The accepted theory is that oil came from dead dinosaurs. I think that is ridiculous. The dinosaur thing is just a theory; nobody knows where oil comes from or exactly what it is. So my theory is just as plausible. But if you believe my theory there is nothing to be afraid of and that is bad news for politicians.
What is a scientist in your eyes? Someone who got a degree from some expensive college? These assholes think they are the smartest people in the world and spout off their bullshit and if you don’t believe them you are stupid. Exactly the same as the morons on tv who never shut up about politics. We are supposed to believe everything they say. Well I say fuck ‘em And think for myself.
The "scientists" have been telling us for years that we are almost out of oil. Then gigantic bubbles are discovered.
well, a scientist is, yes, someone who got a degree from a college in, um, you know, them pesky sciences. What are you basing your ideas on (that fossil fuels is ridiculous, or that oil is produced within the earth naturally through tectonic movement) ? do you have a source, or was this dreamed up after filling up the bong and too much taco bell?
scientists have research and studies to back up their theories. just making one up and saying it's just as plausible is not correct.
and why would the politicians have to fear limitless amounts of oil exactly? then they'd have to find another reason to start wars to keep the economy going and the poor employed?
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Yeah. The accepted theory is that oil came from dead dinosaurs. I think that is ridiculous. The dinosaur thing is just a theory; nobody knows where oil comes from or exactly what it is. So my theory is just as plausible. But if you believe my theory there is nothing to be afraid of and that is bad news for politicians.
What is a scientist in your eyes? Someone who got a degree from some expensive college? These assholes think they are the smartest people in the world and spout off their bullshit and if you don’t believe them you are stupid. Exactly the same as the morons on tv who never shut up about politics. We are supposed to believe everything they say. Well I say fuck ‘em And think for myself.
The "scientists" have been telling us for years that we are almost out of oil. Then gigantic bubbles are discovered.
Basically, what I get from you is that we're the scientists and oil could come from salt water taffy and we have nothing to worry about.
Why are you so angry about scientists? Some, quite a few are very respected and work hard to explore the reasons for things in our world. Some of them spend lifetimes out there searching for truths outside of google...And PS - the theory is not simply oil from dead dinosaurs.
How the hell did we go from "the purpose of the USA" to "there's no such thing as global warming and all of our resources are infinite anyways? wow.
I'm not mad at sceintists I just don't accept everything they say as fact.
I did dream up the tectonics idea and there is no way of proving the fossil fuel idea. It's called fossil fuel because that's what they call it. That doesn't make it true.
I decided a long time ago that people say things for a lot of reasons and some times the reasons are for their own benefit. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.
Do you really think that all the sceintists right now are exactly right? That what people thought forever and they are continuosly proven wrong.
It is freezing where I am no global warming here. Why aren't you overjoyed that the "scientists" who scared you were proved to be lying? I don't understand why global warming believers refuse to acknowledge the news that says the planted is okay. It is impossible to "plunder" the worlds resources. The amount of oil, coal, and gas in this big blue marble is unfathomable, we have only scratched the surface of oil. All that using oil does is transfer carbon, it's no big deal dude. This will make you nuts I'm sure but I'll write it anyway...I think the Earth makes oil from within. My theory is just as plausible as any that you believe. Think about it...plate tectonics moves the stuff on the surface to the inside of the planet. I think all this carbon on the surface gets cooked by the hot interior and produces gas, coal, and oil. So it is impossible to use it all up.
Your characterization of Western Civ is tired and boring. How about right now? You whine about wealth distribution being unfair; it is incomprehensible to us because our poorest have more than 50% of the people in the Arab nations. And "war on women"? There is a true war on women in the Mid-East.
And why do you write A-rab? Is that some racist way of pronouncing Arab?
You lefty libs are the most racist, bulling, unfair, uncaring people around. Why do you hate the country you live in? That's wacked!
climate change is a myth? interesting. the earth makes oil? interesting. are you a scientist?
Sort of. Think for yourself don't believe everything you hear. The climate change thing is just a way to scare people into voting for some moron. It's a conspirisy theory like the grassy knoll.
When you factor in wordage and the spelling... these post are freaking hilarious.
I'm not mad at sceintists I just don't accept everything they say as fact.
I did dream up the tectonics idea and there is no way of proving the fossil fuel idea. It's called fossil fuel because that's what they call it. That doesn't make it true.
I decided a long time ago that people say things for a lot of reasons and some times the reasons are for their own benefit. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.
Do you really think that all the sceintists right now are exactly right? That what people thought forever and they are continuosly proven wrong.
obviously not, but I have reasons to believe or disbelieve. I don't just outright disbelieve something because I wear a tin foil hat to bed.
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Well well well....lol ok. You werent invited to respond in the OP as an American. The OP even said so!
Now lets take a look! "Stolen Ideas" May I ask who's ideas did we steal?
land stolen? Maybe some of it, but do you think that the natives needed the entire continent? If so, what about all the other migration that has taken place in the world, including now?
Backs of slaves? Maybe 1/2 of the labor at some point was from slaves, but that was also the case in many nations through many centuries. There was a high demand for work. Its the natural evolution that happened in an uncivilized world. America didnt invent slavery bud!
"The founding rich guys of their day"? or educated men of their day is what I say.
So you give the founders and the founding ZERO relevance and ZERO meaning? WOW OK THERE BUD! You dont seem out of touch now!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
The simple fact is this country was founded upon exploiting the weak. Tell me, how christian is this?
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
You are free to believe what you want! So you are free! Enjoy it, cause you are living in a free world, thanks to the USA!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
right no contradiction. First the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia then defeated Russia when they dropped the iron curtain. Historically US protects the rights, freedom, and liberty of all people (if they want it).
There is only one chance of world peace....western civilization.
Absolute nonsense.
9 out of every 10 German soldiers killed in the war were killed on Russian soil. And the Germans had already been beaten back at Moscow before the U.S even joined the war. The tide was already turning in the Russians favour at that point. And Stalingrad was the key battle of WWII.
Seriously, I don't think I've ever heard a more ignorant and arrogant statement as 'the US defeated the Germans with the help of Russia'.
Tell that to the Chileans, Vietnamese, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, El Salvadoreans, Panamanians, Iraqi's, Lebanese, and Palestinians.
Seriously, let's just take a couple of examples from the list above. Do you think that overthrowing the democratically elected Chilean leader Salvador Allende and replacing him with a brutal dictator constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Chilean people?
Do you think that funding, training, arming, and defending death squads in Guatemala when they were carrying out genocide against the indigenous civilian population constituted protecting 'the rights, freedom, and liberty' of the Guatamalan people?
Just what topsy-turvy World do you inhabit my friend?
I had prepared a response to some of these naive assertions and then just deleted it. I'm glad I did. This post says it well. I guarantee it will be ignored though.
You have to forgive us. We are brought up being taught that we are the best and the shining light of the world. Saving all because of our huge heart...... looking after the downtrodden. (ecxept our own)
We grow up singing the national anthem at school, sporting events, reciting the "pledge of allegiance" to the flag under god...... as children.
Some can get over that propaganda and indoctrination and others can't. Throw in Some religious zealotry of it being the US' divine right it and gets even more creepy.
I'm so fucken glad steve takes the time out to respond with facts. People need to know the truth and I applaud you buddy. Sad thing is these blind sheep will continue with there "rah rah rah." I'm sorry but if your country or ANY country, has been in some kind of war for 215 years out of 236 years of exsistance, then you're doing something wrong. That's 22 years of peace out of 236 years of exsisting. Think about it.
Wow, this post was great. Lived it and thankfully woke up from it.
It truly is. I compare such closed minds to those of people immersed in a cult: when they are in- they are 'all in'. They truly cannot see the bigger picture, nor do they care to look. A fully indoctrinated belief set or good, solid, brainwashing if you prefer. For those that wake up: they have an entirely different perpsective.
Critical thinking is the number one skill we seek to teach our students to prepare them for the responsibilities they will face as adults. We need critical thinkers now more than ever when you consider the way the world has evolved and the challenges we face as a global society in the coming years.
Just victims of the in-house drive-by. They say jump, you say how high.
I think we save a hell of a lot more than this post indicates. We are far from perfect as a nation but we are better than many. And there is no harm in pledging allegiance or singing the national anthem as a child in this country because when you become an adult you are free to stop anytime you like. To say that children are indoctrinated and that many cannot break out of it is a bit of a stretch.
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What other chance is there for world peace? The only way I can think of is if the Arab people are exposed to western civilization. If they were they would surely embrace it because it is their leaders who isolate the people. The Arabs are people just like us; they don't want to kill us. But if they only know what they are told by the extreme leaders that is all they know.
Western Civ is better than Sharia Law right? Imagine...Egypt is about to be a Sharia nation. That is so freaking scary. Well at least for the women and those who believe in a different profit.
Nice job of managing to completely fail to address any of the points raised on the previous page.
At the risk of failing to mention many similar such examples; Western civilization gave us genocide in the America's, genocide in Australia, the slave trade, the exploitation and butchery that took place in Africa and India, WWI, WWII (including the Jewish Holocaust, and the Ukrainian famine), Vietnam (which saw an estimated 2 million Vietnamese killed), a decade of U.S-backed slaughter in Latin America, Vietnam, Iraq (both the first Iraq War, ten years of devastating sanctions that resulted in approx half a million children dying, and the second Iraq War, which saw over 1 million dead Iraqi's and between 4-5 million refugees), e.t.c, e.t.c.
Oh, and Western 'Civilization' has also managed to successfully bring the Earths environment to the point of complete destruction (our plundering of the planets resources has now reached critical proportions).
Yep, definitely an example to be envious of. I bet those ignorant, pesky A-rabs would really love nothing better than to be just like 'us'.
Personally, I'd prefer for all peoples to be better exposed to the beliefs and teachings of indigenous populations, such as the original inhabitants of Australia and the America's.
(Not quite sure where all the hostility towards Arabs has been coming from lately on this message board. But then I suppose there are people who will always need an enemy, even if it means inventing one).
And one more thing, the West's overabundance of material wealth simply wouldn't exist if it weren't for it's exploitation of the 'Third World', through a well-documented process of economic imperialism, the backing of Western-friendly dictators, and outright aggression.
Your characterization of Western Civ is tired and boring. How about right now? You whine about wealth distribution being unfair; it is incomprehensible to us because our poorest have more than 50% of the people in the Arab nations. And "war on women"? There is a true war on women in the Mid-East.
And why do you write A-rab? Is that some racist way of pronouncing Arab?
You lefty libs are the most racist, bulling, unfair, uncaring people around. Why do you hate the country you live in? That's wacked!
I love the country I live in. I respect it. But I dont want to force it all over the world. What we've done in some places is a travesty. We should pull our tail between our legs and hide under the sheets after the lies and ridiculous amounts of money spent on Iraq in the last decade.
And I will NEVER take anyone seriously who says its impossible to plunder our worlds resources. :roll: :? That's possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this site.
What makes you think that there is any less oil now than there was 100 years ago? Because it is being used? Nobody knows where it comes from it's all speculation.
I don't want to force it either but don't you think opressed people would choose it? I do.
climate change is a myth? interesting. the earth makes oil? interesting. are you a scientist?
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Sort of. Think for yourself don't believe everything you hear. The climate change thing is just a way to scare people into voting for some moron. It's a conspirisy theory like the grassy knoll.
I do think for myself, thanks. how can you be "sort of" a scientist? do you know what a fossil fuel is?
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So what? its 85 degree F here and humid. Do people really still say this stuff to make themselves feel better about how we abused our planet in the past?
Ok, I admit, Im no scientist. But you can google this all day long…and I’d just be slightly more willing to believe the majority of scientists than this idea of yours, (although I have heard theories like this…no offense, it sure is creative, a Swarzeneggar movie indeed!):
But neither theory is perfect. Your theory has just as many holes and could be wrong. Would you rather be prepared for it, or one day just go: “oh shit, we’re out of oil..”
While our forests are dwindling and our oceans are suffering…
YES, some resources are finite, some damage irreparable.
So here’s what a quick google seach told me…from BP nonetheless…who relies on oil:
http://makewealthhistory.org/2010/06/11 ... ft-really/
We’ve got 40 years to figure something out.
What is a scientist in your eyes? Someone who got a degree from some expensive college? These assholes think they are the smartest people in the world and spout off their bullshit and if you don’t believe them you are stupid. Exactly the same as the morons on tv who never shut up about politics. We are supposed to believe everything they say. Well I say fuck ‘em And think for myself.
The "scientists" have been telling us for years that we are almost out of oil. Then gigantic bubbles are discovered.
well, a scientist is, yes, someone who got a degree from a college in, um, you know, them pesky sciences. What are you basing your ideas on (that fossil fuels is ridiculous, or that oil is produced within the earth naturally through tectonic movement) ? do you have a source, or was this dreamed up after filling up the bong and too much taco bell?
scientists have research and studies to back up their theories. just making one up and saying it's just as plausible is not correct.
and why would the politicians have to fear limitless amounts of oil exactly? then they'd have to find another reason to start wars to keep the economy going and the poor employed?
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Basically, what I get from you is that we're the scientists and oil could come from salt water taffy and we have nothing to worry about.
Why are you so angry about scientists? Some, quite a few are very respected and work hard to explore the reasons for things in our world. Some of them spend lifetimes out there searching for truths outside of google...And PS - the theory is not simply oil from dead dinosaurs.
How the hell did we go from "the purpose of the USA" to "there's no such thing as global warming and all of our resources are infinite anyways? wow.
I did dream up the tectonics idea and there is no way of proving the fossil fuel idea. It's called fossil fuel because that's what they call it. That doesn't make it true.
I decided a long time ago that people say things for a lot of reasons and some times the reasons are for their own benefit. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.
Do you really think that all the sceintists right now are exactly right? That what people thought forever and they are continuosly proven wrong.
I don't think this at all. But, I do think scientists know where oil comes from, and I do think they are correct in labeling it a finite resource.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
When you factor in wordage and the spelling... these post are freaking hilarious.
And kind of scary too. Like, seriously?
obviously not, but I have reasons to believe or disbelieve. I don't just outright disbelieve something because I wear a tin foil hat to bed.
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