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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,750
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)

    We're a "guns, beer, and ammo" kind of household around here.  We even have an armed guard and a watch dog.

    Careful posting this. ICE might be coming for that beer now. 

    No worries, it's ice cold.  I'm covered.  :lol:  
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,042
    No pistolas for me 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,756
    pdalowsky said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)
    I would guess all that post do not.  I do own one though, fact I got two!
    Ooooh, let me ask Chris, rifles or handguns?
    Both.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,756
    ed243421 said:
    Hey, tempo, are you gonna answer the mlb fantasy poster thread or your pm’s???
    I'll check now.
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,254
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)

    We're a "guns, beer, and ammo" kind of household around here.  We even have an armed guard and a watch dog.

    nicely done
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,750
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)

    We're a "guns, beer, and ammo" kind of household around here.  We even have an armed guard and a watch dog.

    nicely done

    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,254
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)

    We're a "guns, beer, and ammo" kind of household around here.  We even have an armed guard and a watch dog.

    nicely done

    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Interesting Question also. I have asked myself the question before, could i pull the trigger if needed. I'm genuinely not sure of the answer, I'd like to think yes, but Im far from convinced.

    I expect those who own a gun are perhaps reassured that by having one to the extent it puts them at ease, and possibly even lowers their guard in the belief they are safer. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,756
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)

    We're a "guns, beer, and ammo" kind of household around here.  We even have an armed guard and a watch dog.

    nicely done

    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Interesting Question also. I have asked myself the question before, could i pull the trigger if needed. I'm genuinely not sure of the answer, I'd like to think yes, but Im far from convinced.

    I expect those who own a gun are perhaps reassured that by having one to the extent it puts them at ease, and possibly even lowers their guard in the belief they are safer. 
    I bought firearms for recreational purposes and took shooting classes for that same reason.  I enjoyed shooting.
    I'm sure I'm an anomaly as most people do buy for protection.

    Only once have I thought it necessary to use for protection.  Never came to it thankfully.
  • max8700
    max8700 Posts: 210
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)


    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Haven't looked at this thread in a while, but wanted to say I own several guns and while I do have one in a biometric safe next to my bed, I don't own guns necessarily for protection. And I have never had to use one in such a manner, and I hope I never do.

    But I do go shooting at the local range 2-3 times a month, I go out to my dad's property 90 miles away and we will shoot together when we can find the time. I enjoy it. I enjoy dismantling, cleaning and putting my guns back together. I enjoy learning about all the mechanisms. I enjoy buying accessories and customizing my guns. It's a hobby for me, like anything else. 

    And I cannot agree more than getting to know your neighbors is vital. We all look out for each other, and the kids in the neighborhood all know which homes are the safe homes they can go to if they ever feel threatened or see something suspicious. For what it's worth, in my immediate neighborhood, there are more gun owners than non-gun owners. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,750
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)


    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Haven't looked at this thread in a while, but wanted to say I own several guns and while I do have one in a biometric safe next to my bed, I don't own guns necessarily for protection. And I have never had to use one in such a manner, and I hope I never do.

    But I do go shooting at the local range 2-3 times a month, I go out to my dad's property 90 miles away and we will shoot together when we can find the time. I enjoy it. I enjoy dismantling, cleaning and putting my guns back together. I enjoy learning about all the mechanisms. I enjoy buying accessories and customizing my guns. It's a hobby for me, like anything else. 

    And I cannot agree more than getting to know your neighbors is vital. We all look out for each other, and the kids in the neighborhood all know which homes are the safe homes they can go to if they ever feel threatened or see something suspicious. For what it's worth, in my immediate neighborhood, there are more gun owners than non-gun owners. 

    I hope you are considerate of any neighbors with PTSD.   Wherever it is you live, I would not last two days in your neighborhood.  Maybe not two hours.   :#
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • max8700
    max8700 Posts: 210
    brianlux said:
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)


    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Haven't looked at this thread in a while, but wanted to say I own several guns and while I do have one in a biometric safe next to my bed, I don't own guns necessarily for protection. And I have never had to use one in such a manner, and I hope I never do.

    But I do go shooting at the local range 2-3 times a month, I go out to my dad's property 90 miles away and we will shoot together when we can find the time. I enjoy it. I enjoy dismantling, cleaning and putting my guns back together. I enjoy learning about all the mechanisms. I enjoy buying accessories and customizing my guns. It's a hobby for me, like anything else. 

    And I cannot agree more than getting to know your neighbors is vital. We all look out for each other, and the kids in the neighborhood all know which homes are the safe homes they can go to if they ever feel threatened or see something suspicious. For what it's worth, in my immediate neighborhood, there are more gun owners than non-gun owners. 

    I hope you are considerate of any neighbors with PTSD.   Wherever it is you live, I would not last two days in your neighborhood.  Maybe not two hours.   :#
    To be clear, when we shoot at the local range its indoors. At my dad's property the nearest neighbor is quite a way aways. Would never shoot for practice/fun and cause anyone distress. And I live in a very populated, middle class area in Michigan. It's not like people have their guns out all the time! I just meant since I know my neighbors, and some I shoot with, I have a general idea of who owns guns and who doesn't. That's all! You would love my neighborhood!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,750
    edited October 17
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)


    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Haven't looked at this thread in a while, but wanted to say I own several guns and while I do have one in a biometric safe next to my bed, I don't own guns necessarily for protection. And I have never had to use one in such a manner, and I hope I never do.

    But I do go shooting at the local range 2-3 times a month, I go out to my dad's property 90 miles away and we will shoot together when we can find the time. I enjoy it. I enjoy dismantling, cleaning and putting my guns back together. I enjoy learning about all the mechanisms. I enjoy buying accessories and customizing my guns. It's a hobby for me, like anything else. 

    And I cannot agree more than getting to know your neighbors is vital. We all look out for each other, and the kids in the neighborhood all know which homes are the safe homes they can go to if they ever feel threatened or see something suspicious. For what it's worth, in my immediate neighborhood, there are more gun owners than non-gun owners. 

    I hope you are considerate of any neighbors with PTSD.   Wherever it is you live, I would not last two days in your neighborhood.  Maybe not two hours.   :#
    To be clear, when we shoot at the local range its indoors. At my dad's property the nearest neighbor is quite a way aways. Would never shoot for practice/fun and cause anyone distress. And I live in a very populated, middle class area in Michigan. It's not like people have their guns out all the time! I just meant since I know my neighbors, and some I shoot with, I have a general idea of who owns guns and who doesn't. That's all! You would love my neighborhood!

    Excellent, Max, thank you!  
    I wish the shooting ranges in out county were indoors.  There is an outdoor one west of us that, though not real close, is close enough to hear on some days and on those days, I don't go outside.  The same is true and even worse when neighbors target practice on their property.  When that happens, I hope the fan makes enough white noise to block it out, otherwise I have to get in the car and leave.
    In the early 1980, I worked at a community college in Santa Clara County, California that, among other things, had a police training program.  I used to walk right by the indoor shooting range and if I didn't know what that structure was built for, I would never have known people were shooing in there!  That place would have made an awesome recording studio! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,014
    brianlux said:
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)


    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Haven't looked at this thread in a while, but wanted to say I own several guns and while I do have one in a biometric safe next to my bed, I don't own guns necessarily for protection. And I have never had to use one in such a manner, and I hope I never do.

    But I do go shooting at the local range 2-3 times a month, I go out to my dad's property 90 miles away and we will shoot together when we can find the time. I enjoy it. I enjoy dismantling, cleaning and putting my guns back together. I enjoy learning about all the mechanisms. I enjoy buying accessories and customizing my guns. It's a hobby for me, like anything else. 

    And I cannot agree more than getting to know your neighbors is vital. We all look out for each other, and the kids in the neighborhood all know which homes are the safe homes they can go to if they ever feel threatened or see something suspicious. For what it's worth, in my immediate neighborhood, there are more gun owners than non-gun owners. 

    I hope you are considerate of any neighbors with PTSD.   Wherever it is you live, I would not last two days in your neighborhood.  Maybe not two hours.   :#
    To be clear, when we shoot at the local range its indoors. At my dad's property the nearest neighbor is quite a way aways. Would never shoot for practice/fun and cause anyone distress. And I live in a very populated, middle class area in Michigan. It's not like people have their guns out all the time! I just meant since I know my neighbors, and some I shoot with, I have a general idea of who owns guns and who doesn't. That's all! You would love my neighborhood!

    Excellent, Max, thank you!  
    I wish the shooting ranges in out county were indoors.  There is an outdoor one west of us that, though not real close, is close enough to hear on some days and on those days, I don't go outside.  The same is true and even worse when neighbors target practice on their property.  When that happens, I hope the fan makes enough white noise to block it out, otherwise I have to get in the car and leave.
    In the early 1980, I worked at a community college in Santa Clara County, California that, among other things, had a police training program.  I used to walk right by the indoor shooting range and if I didn't know what that structure was built for, I would never have known people were shooing in there!  That place would have made an awesome recording studio! 
    I don’t know if this is the case with your neighborhood. But when I was growing up in LA county there were some very isolated gun ranges. They were intentionally built isolated. Then over the years developers bought the land nearby, people bought houses next to gun ranges, then due to the noise complains had them moved or shut down.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,750
    edited October 18
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)


    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Haven't looked at this thread in a while, but wanted to say I own several guns and while I do have one in a biometric safe next to my bed, I don't own guns necessarily for protection. And I have never had to use one in such a manner, and I hope I never do.

    But I do go shooting at the local range 2-3 times a month, I go out to my dad's property 90 miles away and we will shoot together when we can find the time. I enjoy it. I enjoy dismantling, cleaning and putting my guns back together. I enjoy learning about all the mechanisms. I enjoy buying accessories and customizing my guns. It's a hobby for me, like anything else. 

    And I cannot agree more than getting to know your neighbors is vital. We all look out for each other, and the kids in the neighborhood all know which homes are the safe homes they can go to if they ever feel threatened or see something suspicious. For what it's worth, in my immediate neighborhood, there are more gun owners than non-gun owners. 

    I hope you are considerate of any neighbors with PTSD.   Wherever it is you live, I would not last two days in your neighborhood.  Maybe not two hours.   :#
    To be clear, when we shoot at the local range its indoors. At my dad's property the nearest neighbor is quite a way aways. Would never shoot for practice/fun and cause anyone distress. And I live in a very populated, middle class area in Michigan. It's not like people have their guns out all the time! I just meant since I know my neighbors, and some I shoot with, I have a general idea of who owns guns and who doesn't. That's all! You would love my neighborhood!

    Excellent, Max, thank you!  
    I wish the shooting ranges in out county were indoors.  There is an outdoor one west of us that, though not real close, is close enough to hear on some days and on those days, I don't go outside.  The same is true and even worse when neighbors target practice on their property.  When that happens, I hope the fan makes enough white noise to block it out, otherwise I have to get in the car and leave.
    In the early 1980, I worked at a community college in Santa Clara County, California that, among other things, had a police training program.  I used to walk right by the indoor shooting range and if I didn't know what that structure was built for, I would never have known people were shooing in there!  That place would have made an awesome recording studio! 
    I don’t know if this is the case with your neighborhood. But when I was growing up in LA county there were some very isolated gun ranges. They were intentionally built isolated. Then over the years developers bought the land nearby, people bought houses next to gun ranges, then due to the noise complains had them moved or shut down.
    The El Dorado Gun Club has been around for a long time and it's going nowhere.  
    But guns have been a source of anxiety for me in all kinds of neighborhoods.  Even when I lived in San Francisco, I heard shooting a few times.  I guarantee you that was from no shooting range.  
    The reality is, guns are never going to be outlawed in this country.   Maybe in some states, but nationwide?  No way.  The least we could do is only allow shooting in indoor ranges. 
    And another thing- those "isolated" ranges you were talking about?  Ask a bird, or a rabbit, or a fox or coyote or deer about how that feels.  It's even worse for them because they don't have fingers to stick in their ears.  How many people who shoot outdoors even give a damn about how that affects other people and animals?  I'm guessing Max from the post above is an exception.  
    And what about all that lead pumped into the environment?  The national forests have lead all over the fucking place.
    For the sake of defenseless animals and for people like me, I say "Fuck outdoor shooting".  

    And look, sorry for the rant, but I have good reason to take strong issue with this business.
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  • josevolution
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    I don’t need no stinking guns 🖕🏽that 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,756
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    max8700 said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    brianlux said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Purely out of interest, how many of those who post in this thread own a gun?

    (matter of intrigue, given I am from the UK and owning a gun is about as common as owning an elephant)


    Thanks!  
    In truth, what gives us a sense of security here is not squirt guns and toys but, rather, having gotten to know our neighbors well enough such any of us would know if something suspicious was going on around here.  We're not real close to any of them, but close enough to know we trust them and they trust us.  Getting to know one's neighbors is always a smart move!

    As well as asking who here has guns, I'd be interested in who here who has a gun has ever had to use or threaten to use a firearm to protect themselves?  I'm 74 years old and have never met someone who has had to do that.  So my thinking is that having guns is vastly over-rated as a security "necessity" for the greatest number of us. And I say that as someone who has lived in big cities, suburbia, and rural areas, and spent a lot of time in all of those kinds of places, even some that are considered "dangerous" areas.  
    Haven't looked at this thread in a while, but wanted to say I own several guns and while I do have one in a biometric safe next to my bed, I don't own guns necessarily for protection. And I have never had to use one in such a manner, and I hope I never do.

    But I do go shooting at the local range 2-3 times a month, I go out to my dad's property 90 miles away and we will shoot together when we can find the time. I enjoy it. I enjoy dismantling, cleaning and putting my guns back together. I enjoy learning about all the mechanisms. I enjoy buying accessories and customizing my guns. It's a hobby for me, like anything else. 

    And I cannot agree more than getting to know your neighbors is vital. We all look out for each other, and the kids in the neighborhood all know which homes are the safe homes they can go to if they ever feel threatened or see something suspicious. For what it's worth, in my immediate neighborhood, there are more gun owners than non-gun owners. 

    I hope you are considerate of any neighbors with PTSD.   Wherever it is you live, I would not last two days in your neighborhood.  Maybe not two hours.   :#
    To be clear, when we shoot at the local range its indoors. At my dad's property the nearest neighbor is quite a way aways. Would never shoot for practice/fun and cause anyone distress. And I live in a very populated, middle class area in Michigan. It's not like people have their guns out all the time! I just meant since I know my neighbors, and some I shoot with, I have a general idea of who owns guns and who doesn't. That's all! You would love my neighborhood!

    Excellent, Max, thank you!  
    I wish the shooting ranges in out county were indoors.  There is an outdoor one west of us that, though not real close, is close enough to hear on some days and on those days, I don't go outside.  The same is true and even worse when neighbors target practice on their property.  When that happens, I hope the fan makes enough white noise to block it out, otherwise I have to get in the car and leave.
    In the early 1980, I worked at a community college in Santa Clara County, California that, among other things, had a police training program.  I used to walk right by the indoor shooting range and if I didn't know what that structure was built for, I would never have known people were shooing in there!  That place would have made an awesome recording studio! 
    I don’t know if this is the case with your neighborhood. But when I was growing up in LA county there were some very isolated gun ranges. They were intentionally built isolated. Then over the years developers bought the land nearby, people bought houses next to gun ranges, then due to the noise complains had them moved or shut down.
    I can remember going into the mountains in LA and shooting w my family. There were designated areas for that.  The amount of lead that is in those hills must be wild.

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