Guns.

Tim Simmons

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

Yea. They are. They spew hatred towards the other side and make everyone hate each other. Just to be clear I’m talking about loudmouths who make a living off of fear and hatred on streams, social media or podcasts.  I’m not talking about politicians or the actual two parties. Theres plenty out there who are left or right. You might not be aware of them but they exist. 

gotcha

Halifax2TheMax

Get_Right said:

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Is that a fact? Did the Las Vegas shooter suffer from mental illness? Had he been diagnosed as such or had a history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system? What about the Columbine shooters? Did they suffer from mental illness? Some we know to have, Lanza at SandyHook, suffered from mental illness, for example.

Pretty broad generalized statement.

mickeyrat

DE4173

One down, nine or fourteen to go:

Ledbetterman10

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Is that a fact? Did the Las Vegas shooter suffer from mental illness? Had he been diagnosed as such or had a history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system? What about the Columbine shooters? Did they suffer from mental illness? Some we know to have, Lanza at SandyHook, suffered from mental illness, for example.

Pretty broad generalized statement.

Anybody that would murder someone is mentally ill. You don’t need a diagnosis or a “history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system” to confirm it. If you murder random people, you’re mentally ill. Sure the transvestite that killed those kids in Minneapolis probably has a diagnosed mental illness of gender dysphoria. But the Columbine shooters and everyone else you listed are just as mentally ill whether they have a diagnosis on the books or not. 

mickeyrat

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Is that a fact? Did the Las Vegas shooter suffer from mental illness? Had he been diagnosed as such or had a history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system? What about the Columbine shooters? Did they suffer from mental illness? Some we know to have, Lanza at SandyHook, suffered from mental illness, for example.

Pretty broad generalized statement.

Anybody that would murder someone is mentally ill. You don’t need a diagnosis or a “history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system” to confirm it. If you murder random people, you’re mentally ill. Sure the transvestite that killed those kids in Minneapolis probably has a diagnosed mental illness of gender dysphoria. But the Columbine shooters and everyone else you listed are just as mentally ill whether they have a diagnosis on the books or not. 

this suggests humans are more than or better  than the animals/mammals we are.

we arent.  

Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Is that a fact? Did the Las Vegas shooter suffer from mental illness? Had he been diagnosed as such or had a history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system? What about the Columbine shooters? Did they suffer from mental illness? Some we know to have, Lanza at SandyHook, suffered from mental illness, for example.

Pretty broad generalized statement.

Anybody that would murder someone is mentally ill. You don’t need a diagnosis or a “history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system” to confirm it. If you murder random people, you’re mentally ill. Sure the transvestite that killed those kids in Minneapolis probably has a diagnosed mental illness of gender dysphoria. But the Columbine shooters and everyone else you listed are just as mentally ill whether they have a diagnosis on the books or not. 

That’s an ignorant viewpoint that does a grave disservice to the millions of people who suffer from a mental illness(es) and don’t go on shooting rampages, and the medical professionals who treat them. It’s way easier and lazier to blame it on mental illness rather than the root causes of why it happens so frequently in ‘Murica. I guess ‘Murica is the only country with mentally ill people?

Congratulations.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Is that a fact? Did the Las Vegas shooter suffer from mental illness? Had he been diagnosed as such or had a history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system? What about the Columbine shooters? Did they suffer from mental illness? Some we know to have, Lanza at SandyHook, suffered from mental illness, for example.

Pretty broad generalized statement.

Anybody that would murder someone is mentally ill. You don’t need a diagnosis or a “history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system” to confirm it. If you murder random people, you’re mentally ill. Sure the transvestite that killed those kids in Minneapolis probably has a diagnosed mental illness of gender dysphoria. But the Columbine shooters and everyone else you listed are just as mentally ill whether they have a diagnosis on the books or not. 

That’s an ignorant viewpoint that does a grave disservice to the millions of people who suffer from a mental illness(es) and don’t go on shooting rampages, and the medical professionals who treat them. It’s way easier and lazier to blame it on mental illness rather than the root causes of why it happens so frequently in ‘Murica. I guess ‘Murica is the only country with mentally ill people?

Congratulations.

Why does calling one person mentally ill put all of them in the same box?
I wouldn’t say that “all” people who kill another human are mentally ill, but I would say those that commit random mass murders most likely suffer from either a diagnosed or undiagnosed and untreated mental illness that causes them to act in an irrational way. That says nothing about the millions of others who have an illness and those who treat them. But people who have normal functioning brains don’t desire to go out and shoot random kids.
That also means not all who don’t have normal functions do desire to do that either.

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Is that a fact? Did the Las Vegas shooter suffer from mental illness? Had he been diagnosed as such or had a history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system? What about the Columbine shooters? Did they suffer from mental illness? Some we know to have, Lanza at SandyHook, suffered from mental illness, for example.

Pretty broad generalized statement.

Anybody that would murder someone is mentally ill. You don’t need a diagnosis or a “history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system” to confirm it. If you murder random people, you’re mentally ill. Sure the transvestite that killed those kids in Minneapolis probably has a diagnosed mental illness of gender dysphoria. But the Columbine shooters and everyone else you listed are just as mentally ill whether they have a diagnosis on the books or not. 

That’s an ignorant viewpoint that does a grave disservice to the millions of people who suffer from a mental illness(es) and don’t go on shooting rampages, and the medical professionals who treat them. It’s way easier and lazier to blame it on mental illness rather than the root causes of why it happens so frequently in ‘Murica. I guess ‘Murica is the only country with mentally ill people?

Congratulations.

Why does calling one person mentally ill put all of them in the same box?
I wouldn’t say that “all” people who kill another human are mentally ill, but I would say those that commit random mass murders most likely suffer from either a diagnosed or undiagnosed and untreated mental illness that causes them to act in an irrational way. That says nothing about the millions of others who have an illness and those who treat them. But people who have normal functioning brains don’t desire to go out and shoot random kids.
That also means not all who don’t have normal functions do desire to do that either.

Because gun violence committed by the “mentally ill” is far less than that committed by “normal” people. And it’s lazy, if you’re interested in the root causes of gun violence and trying to do something about preventing the carnage.

And they posted, “Anybody”. Implying everyone who murders someone with a firearm or otherwise.

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Is that a fact? Did the Las Vegas shooter suffer from mental illness? Had he been diagnosed as such or had a history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system? What about the Columbine shooters? Did they suffer from mental illness? Some we know to have, Lanza at SandyHook, suffered from mental illness, for example.

Pretty broad generalized statement.

Anybody that would murder someone is mentally ill. You don’t need a diagnosis or a “history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system” to confirm it. If you murder random people, you’re mentally ill. Sure the transvestite that killed those kids in Minneapolis probably has a diagnosed mental illness of gender dysphoria. But the Columbine shooters and everyone else you listed are just as mentally ill whether they have a diagnosis on the books or not. 

That’s an ignorant viewpoint that does a grave disservice to the millions of people who suffer from a mental illness(es) and don’t go on shooting rampages, and the medical professionals who treat them. It’s way easier and lazier to blame it on mental illness rather than the root causes of why it happens so frequently in ‘Murica. I guess ‘Murica is the only country with mentally ill people?

Congratulations.

Why does calling one person mentally ill put all of them in the same box?
I wouldn’t say that “all” people who kill another human are mentally ill, but I would say those that commit random mass murders most likely suffer from either a diagnosed or undiagnosed and untreated mental illness that causes them to act in an irrational way. That says nothing about the millions of others who have an illness and those who treat them. But people who have normal functioning brains don’t desire to go out and shoot random kids.
That also means not all who don’t have normal functions do desire to do that either.

Because gun violence committed by the “mentally ill” is far less than that committed by “normal” people. And it’s lazy, if you’re interested in the root causes of gun violence and trying to do something about preventing the carnage.

Halifax2TheMax

Forum and/or user glitches. Sorry for the double post but I have a reputation to uphold.

Halifax2TheMax

What a country. One that can produce children younger than 12 that can articulate what and how they did when someone shot up their religious school. Matter of fact, calm, conditioned and trained well. Less than 12 years old. Conditioned for violence because of “rights” and everyone who commits such horror is “mentally ill” and not worthy. 

What a sick, shithole country. Pro-life? Get. The. Fuck. Out. Of. Here. Christian? Get. The. Fuck. Out. Of. Here.

Halifax2TheMax

And folks wonder why the yutes aren’t more respectful. Or was it possessing “etiquette” and “manners?”

What a stupid country.

Halifax2TheMax

To illustrate, guess the shit hole country of stupidity is winning, eh? 

Must be a shit ton of “mentally ill”, eh? Gotta change the diet, MAHA, eh?

However, why is “one” indicative of them all? Well, when an 8 or 10 year old can calmly articulate the how and why of what they did to counter a mass shooter, survive, protect their classmates, and live to tell the world how great they were? It’s MAGA baby!

Give every kid a gun to stop the bad guy with a gun.

At least we’re not talking about Epstein, eh?

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Is that a fact? Did the Las Vegas shooter suffer from mental illness? Had he been diagnosed as such or had a history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system? What about the Columbine shooters? Did they suffer from mental illness? Some we know to have, Lanza at SandyHook, suffered from mental illness, for example.

Pretty broad generalized statement.

Anybody that would murder someone is mentally ill. You don’t need a diagnosis or a “history of treatment or interactions with the (mental) healthcare system” to confirm it. If you murder random people, you’re mentally ill. Sure the transvestite that killed those kids in Minneapolis probably has a diagnosed mental illness of gender dysphoria. But the Columbine shooters and everyone else you listed are just as mentally ill whether they have a diagnosis on the books or not. 

That’s an ignorant viewpoint that does a grave disservice to the millions of people who suffer from a mental illness(es) and don’t go on shooting rampages, and the medical professionals who treat them. It’s way easier and lazier to blame it on mental illness rather than the root causes of why it happens so frequently in ‘Murica. I guess ‘Murica is the only country with mentally ill people?

Congratulations.

It’s also a disservice for the millions of gun owners who dont go shooting up people and places when you blame guns.

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

And folks wonder why the yutes aren’t more respectful. Or was it possessing “etiquette” and “manners?”

What a stupid country.

This is directed at the NPR article I posted in the WOKE thread. Not FOX, Newsmax or CNN.  Go give it a read.

seanwon

Get_Right said:

Vitalogensia said:

Get_Right said:

seanwon said:

Get_Right said:

1) Just get rid of them. Focus more on guns than drugs. I have said it before. Cops in Japan do not even carry guns. Because there is zero tolerance. Just get rid of them. Guns equal crime and death.  

No, people who are mentally ill and have never been trained in proper gun usage and ownership equal crime and death.  Somehow none of my guns, or guns owned by a hundred friends and acquaintances have ever been used for a crime much less used improperly at all.  Weird. But just to make you guys happy, I will sit down with my guns tonight and have another talk with them. Just to be safe.

1) Just get rid of them and then mental health is a non-issue. Easier to eliminate guns than control the mental health of millions of people.
Edit: Start with handguns. Keep your camo mossberg.

2)True, but then there will be a lot of cowards that won’t feel safe without the ability to kill somebody at any moment.

It is no secret that the US has one, if not the highest, gun related homicide rate amongst developed nations. 1) Fewer guns means less shooting. It is not complicated math. The only reason to allow guns is because other people have guns. Just get rid of them all.

Unfortunately, it will not change anytime soon and I am not sure there is a way to repair what has already been allowed. Politicians have tried and failed time and time again. I go back to my Japan example. You can get a hunting rifle after extensive background checks, but no handguns for civilians. Ever. They have crime, but less people die.

1) Well, getting rid of them would be against the Constitution and isn't logically intelligent.  Stop whining about illegals being deported without due process if you don't support the Constitution.  I don't have a handgun (yet...TBD), or a camo Mossberg.  I have a single barrel, hammer action shotgun with a beautifully polished barrel.  

Once again, leftists don't understand if you take guns away, criminals keep theirs.  Non-criminals would lose their legal guns that they don't commit crime with. 

Want to stop drunk drivers from killing sober drivers? Take cars away from sober drivers. That's how gun control works. 

2) What an embarrassing, untrue, and ignorant thing to say.  YOU are the reason so many of us don't intend to vote for a Dem any time soon. As soon as Dem culture stops blaming victims for things while defending the criminal, maybe we can win elections again.  

seanwon

gimmesometruth27 said:

hunterh75 said:

seanwon said:

Get_Right said:

Just get rid of them. Focus more on guns than drugs. I have said it before. Cops in Japan do not even carry guns. Because there is zero tolerance. Just get rid of them. Guns equal crime and death.  

No, people who are mentally ill and have never been trained in proper gun usage and ownership equal crime and death.  Somehow none of my guns, or guns owned by a hundred friends and acquaintances have ever been used for a crime much less used improperly at all.  Weird. But just to make you guys happy, I will sit down with my guns tonight and have another talk with them. Just to be safe.

 Maybe Jose will put a daisy in one of my barrels, lol.  Peace bro

what does jose have to do with this?

https://texashillcountry.com/shotgun-flower-shell/

I guess you guys weren't aware you can grow a variety of flowers and plants by shooting seeds into the ground.  

mickeyrat

Tim Simmons

Always important to remember that people who like guns are weird. Imagine being fascinated with a thing that’s sole purpose is to end life.