Guns.

DE4173

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

I truly didn't give much thought to who the shooter might be. 

That said, when I found out, yeah, I was disappointed. Not because I didn't get to dunk on MAGA; I wasn't going to do that anyway but because I knew what the reaction would be; maybe even an executive order. If I lost a loved-one in such a tragedy, I don't think I'd care what kind of person pulled the trigger. But the bigger-picture reality for someone detached from the even (as I am even though I am in Minnesota) does lead to potential ramifications.

same...magats are good at blaming non magats but silent when it's a magat which is 80% of the time

Speaking of "sides" being silent:

Gern Blansten

DE4173 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

I truly didn't give much thought to who the shooter might be. 

That said, when I found out, yeah, I was disappointed. Not because I didn't get to dunk on MAGA; I wasn't going to do that anyway but because I knew what the reaction would be; maybe even an executive order. If I lost a loved-one in such a tragedy, I don't think I'd care what kind of person pulled the trigger. But the bigger-picture reality for someone detached from the even (as I am even though I am in Minnesota) does lead to potential ramifications.

same...magats are good at blaming non magats but silent when it's a magat which is 80% of the time

Speaking of "sides" being silent:

no idea what you are suggesting here...clearly this information isn't being kept from anyone...it's all over the internet

DE4173

My point is each side here is silent when it involves their own side. 

🦗

mace1229

tbergs said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

I truly didn't give much thought to who the shooter might be. 

That said, when I found out, yeah, I was disappointed. Not because I didn't get to dunk on MAGA; I wasn't going to do that anyway but because I knew what the reaction would be; maybe even an executive order. If I lost a loved-one in such a tragedy, I don't think I'd care what kind of person pulled the trigger. But the bigger-picture reality for someone detached from the even (as I am even though I am in Minnesota) does lead to potential ramifications.

same...magats are good at blaming non magats but silent when it's a magat which is 80% of the time

I mean, every time it’s a white male all you hear is “why is it always a white male?” too.

Yes, but you can't marginalize a white male, not yet anyway even though many seem to think they are. The difference is conservative and religious groups will use this as an opportunity to lash out at the Trans community and actually pass laws/EOs and other policies to further ostracize and/or criminalize them just for being trans.

I find it difficult to understand people who don't see the difference between attacking a majority social class suspect as opposed to a minority class suspect. It's been happening for centuries. It was getting better until we elected a fascist bigot and empowered the far right to weaponize every aspect of humanity they disagree* with.

*Besides pedophiles, white collar crime, fraud, bribery, gun violence, child murder, etc....

I never said there’s no difference. 

Just commenting on the responses that say people are quick to point fingers when it’s a minority group. They’re pretty quick to point fingers when it’s not too.

Tim Simmons

DE4173 said:

My point is each side here is silent when it involves their own side. 

🦗

I mean, everyone here is saying this was wrong and gross and tragic. What more should we be saying?

Tim Simmons

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

nicknyr15

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

Gern Blansten

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

tbergs

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

A common theme among active shooters, hatred of certain, if not all social classes they are not a part of. Empathy, patience and understanding are aspects of humanity they don't understand. 

Tim Simmons

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

Probably hated themselves the most.

Gern Blansten

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

Very true...not even close

tbergs

Gern Blansten said:

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

Very true...not even close

I don't know, Obama had 8 years and no major legislation or changes occurred. I get that there wasn't bipartisan support on restrictions, but they had the first 2 years to get it done.

I think the real problem are American citizens. If the majority wanted something to change they would hold their state and local officials accountable until it happened. Until then, politicians will back what their constituents support as well as who gives them more money, the gun lobby.

mickeyrat

DE4173

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

Very true...not even close

I don't know, Obama had 8 years and no major legislation or changes occurred. I get that there wasn't bipartisan support on restrictions, but they had the first 2 years to get it done.

I think the real problem are American citizens. If the majority wanted something to change they would hold their state and local officials accountable until it happened. Until then, politicians will back what their constituents support as well as who gives them more money, the gun lobby.

I agree. You would think there would be non-stop protests, but maybe it's easier to post on social media and a band's message board than do anything meaningful.

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said: 

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

Yes, one side  wins when it should lose.

nicknyr15

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

Yea. They are. They spew hatred towards the other side and make everyone hate each other. Just to be clear I’m talking about loudmouths who make a living off of fear and hatred on streams, social media or podcasts.  I’m not talking about politicians or the actual two parties. Theres plenty out there who are left or right. You might not be aware of them but they exist. 

Get_Right

Gern Blansten said:

This shooter hated everyone, blacks, hispanics, jews....he was just a giant asshole

The people that commit these acts have serious mental health issues. No matter how they identify, their race or ethnicity. Of course the anti-trans people will use this. That is what we do in America. When something happens that supports our position, we get on a soapbox and tried to get paid for it. No matter how discriminatory or divisive that position may be.

Gern Blansten

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

Very true...not even close

I don't know, Obama had 8 years and no major legislation or changes occurred. I get that there wasn't bipartisan support on restrictions, but they had the first 2 years to get it done.

I think the real problem are American citizens. If the majority wanted something to change they would hold their state and local officials accountable until it happened. Until then, politicians will back what their constituents support as well as who gives them more money, the gun lobby.

Obama wasn't going to just cram stuff through. He respected the constitution.

This shit now is just insane. Now we're dealing with the CDC head basically saying that they want her to rubber stamp RFK's insane bullshit. 

Gern Blansten

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My biggest takeaway is that this persons brain was broken by the internet.

Welcome to reality. Most peoples brains are broken by the internet. They listen to these garbage political personalities who spew nothing but hate towards the other side.  There’s plenty of these personalities on both sides of the political spectrum. It’s disgusting. Fuck them all. 

I mean, both sides aren’t the same when it comes down to it. 

Yea. They are. They spew hatred towards the other side and make everyone hate each other. Just to be clear I’m talking about loudmouths who make a living off of fear and hatred on streams, social media or podcasts.  I’m not talking about politicians or the actual two parties. Theres plenty out there who are left or right. You might not be aware of them but they exist. 

sure they exist...but compare what the left is fighting for vs the right

I can't even say that the majority of the right knows what the fuck they are fighting for other than whatever trump wants which is pathetic. He is ripping the rug out from underneath them and they are applauding it.