Guns.

Tim Simmons

There will be people that do that, but its not gonna be a widespread trend or something. 

DE4173

Let's take guns away from the trans community!

They have rights to gun ownership!

Tim Simmons

You have to ask yourself are 10 people doing this or 10 million? Most of the time the right likes to look at the 10 and pretend its 10 million. Its been happening for years. Don't fall for that trap.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

Knife murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2022)
USA, USA, USA: 0.46 (2023)

Gun murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2023)
USA, USA, USA: 5.6 (2023)

’murica’s gun murders more than make up for, and then some, Canada’s advantage in knife murders but please, do go on.

You can also argue that if you give everyone in Canada a gun, you would see their knife murders plummet. 

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Knife murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2022)
USA, USA, USA: 0.46 (2023)

Gun murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2023)
USA, USA, USA: 5.6 (2023)

’murica’s gun murders more than make up for, and then some, Canada’s advantage in knife murders but please, do go on.

You can also argue that if you give everyone in Canada a gun, you would see their knife murders plummet. 

And their gun murders catch up to ‘Muricas. Makes total sense.

Lerxst1992

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Knife murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2022)
USA, USA, USA: 0.46 (2023)

Gun murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2023)
USA, USA, USA: 5.6 (2023)

’murica’s gun murders more than make up for, and then some, Canada’s advantage in knife murders but please, do go on.

You can also argue that if you give everyone in Canada a gun, you would see their knife murders plummet. 

Or why gang warfare isn't big in Canada. 

Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Knife murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2022)
USA, USA, USA: 0.46 (2023)

Gun murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2023)
USA, USA, USA: 5.6 (2023)

’murica’s gun murders more than make up for, and then some, Canada’s advantage in knife murders but please, do go on.

You can also argue that if you give everyone in Canada a gun, you would see their knife murders plummet. 

Or why gang warfare isn't big in Canada. 

Clearly, you haven’t consulted AI on this subject.

seanwon

Get_Right said:

seanwon said:

Get_Right said:

Vitalogensia said:

Get_Right said:

seanwon said:

Get_Right said:

1) Just get rid of them. Focus more on guns than drugs. I have said it before. Cops in Japan do not even carry guns. Because there is zero tolerance. Just get rid of them. Guns equal crime and death.  

No, people who are mentally ill and have never been trained in proper gun usage and ownership equal crime and death.  Somehow none of my guns, or guns owned by a hundred friends and acquaintances have ever been used for a crime much less used improperly at all.  Weird. But just to make you guys happy, I will sit down with my guns tonight and have another talk with them. Just to be safe.

1) Just get rid of them and then mental health is a non-issue. Easier to eliminate guns than control the mental health of millions of people.
Edit: Start with handguns. Keep your camo mossberg.

2)True, but then there will be a lot of cowards that won’t feel safe without the ability to kill somebody at any moment.

It is no secret that the US has one, if not the highest, gun related homicide rate amongst developed nations. 1) Fewer guns means less shooting. It is not complicated math. The only reason to allow guns is because other people have guns. Just get rid of them all.

Unfortunately, it will not change anytime soon and I am not sure there is a way to repair what has already been allowed. Politicians have tried and failed time and time again. I go back to my Japan example. You can get a hunting rifle after extensive background checks, but no handguns for civilians. Ever. They have crime, but less people die.

1) Well, getting rid of them would be against the Constitution and isn't logically intelligent.  Stop whining about illegals being deported without due process if you don't support the Constitution.  I don't have a handgun (yet...TBD), or a camo Mossberg.  I have a single barrel, hammer action shotgun with a beautifully polished barrel.  

Once again, leftists don't understand if you take guns away, criminals keep theirs.  Non-criminals would lose their legal guns that they don't commit crime with. 

Want to stop drunk drivers from killing sober drivers? Take cars away from sober drivers. That's how gun control works. 

2) What an embarrassing, untrue, and ignorant thing to say.  YOU are the reason so many of us don't intend to vote for a Dem any time soon. As soon as Dem culture stops blaming victims for things while defending the criminal, maybe we can win elections again.  

No, take away the alcohol to stop drunk drivers. Keep your shotgun. Keep your hunting rifle. But make them harder to obtain. Any idiot can walk into a gun store and walk out dangerously armed with more firepower than any person needs. There were no semi automatics when the second amendment was enacted. They used muskets and powder pistols to protect their land. Get rid of all handguns, semi automatics, hollow points etc., and large magazines. This is not a political position, it is a human position that should cross party lines. There is no ignorance in seeing that the US has more gun violence than any other country. Just get rid of them. I would rather see a crackdown on guns than a crackdown on immigrants. And I have never whined about due process not being afforded to illegal immigrants. That issue is a different discussion.

We do take alcohol and guns away.  If you are a felon, you can't own/possess a gun. Get a few DWIs, they will put you on probation and slap a tether on you which will detect if you use alcohol.   Taking things away from innocent people is never the answer.

I agree with all your regulations. Let's ban assault rifles and bump stocks too. Not sure about handguns. I'm fine with them if they are kept at home, or on a firing range.  There should be no open carry and people taking them in public.  That's ridiculous. 

seanwon

Get_Right said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

They aren’t. And you reasonably can’t. But you can ban guns for civilians* that serve no real purpose other than to kill a mass amount of life. 


*and police don’t need them either. 

You want to be a cop in LA, follow up with gang activity and not be armed?

Cops need guns. So does the military. But the end goal should be that your neighbor does not. Enact stricter laws, with harsher penalties, and deploy ICE to eliminate guns with the same vigor they are using to eliminate immigrants. 

Tell me you have never lived rurally/semi-rurally without telling me.  Hunting, farmers protecting their livestock and crops, home defense if need be when it will take cops 15+ minutes to get there, planting gardens and crops.  

seanwon

Bentleyspop said:

Gern Blansten said:

LOL...now they are looking to limit gun purchases for trans individuals....how the fuck do you police that?

They really should be limiting gun purchases by white guys.

Why?  50% of gun violence is by African-Americans.  You aren't racist, are you?  You don't care that so many blacks are killing each other?

seanwon

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Knife murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2022)
USA, USA, USA: 0.46 (2023)

Gun murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2023)
USA, USA, USA: 5.6 (2023)

’murica’s gun murders more than make up for, and then some, Canada’s advantage in knife murders but please, do go on.

You can also argue that if you give everyone in Canada a gun, you would see their knife murders plummet. 

And their gun murders catch up to ‘Muricas. Makes total sense.

I'd rather get shot to death than stabbed to death, personally.

Let's do some further statistical breakdown:  someone a number of pages back said we have 23,000 gun deaths a year.  I'll round it up to 24,000 for easy math. 

2/3rds are suicide, dropping it to just 8,000 murders via guns.  50% are African-Americans killing mostly other African-Americans (which Liberals don't seem to care about, and I find that fascinating).  Which leaves a grand total of 4,000 gun murders per year by all the other demographic groups in the country, combined. In a country of 350 million.   .0011% of the population.  Lower than that when you factor in, not all of the 4,000 gun murders were committed by 4,000 different people.

Halifax2TheMax

seanwon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Knife murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2022)
USA, USA, USA: 0.46 (2023)

Gun murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2023)
USA, USA, USA: 5.6 (2023)

’murica’s gun murders more than make up for, and then some, Canada’s advantage in knife murders but please, do go on.

You can also argue that if you give everyone in Canada a gun, you would see their knife murders plummet. 

And their gun murders catch up to ‘Muricas. Makes total sense.

I'd rather get shot to death than stabbed to death, personally.

Let's do some further statistical breakdown:  someone a number of pages back said we have 23,000 gun deaths a year.  I'll round it up to 24,000 for easy math. 

2/3rds are suicide, dropping it to just 8,000 murders via guns.  50% are African-Americans killing mostly other African-Americans (which Liberals don't seem to care about, and I find that fascinating).  Which leaves a grand total of 4,000 gun murders per year by all the other demographic groups in the country, combined. In a country of 350 million.   .0011% of the population.  Lower than that when you factor in, not all of the 4,000 gun murders were committed by 4,000 different people.

Total number of gun deaths in the US is closer to 47,000. Why don’t repubs care about suicides in rural ‘Murica? Seems weird to me.

Halifax2TheMax

Weirder still that repubs don’t seem to care about stopping the leading cause of death for children in ‘Murica.

”Thoughts and prayers.”

Tim Simmons

seanwon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Knife murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2022)
USA, USA, USA: 0.46 (2023)

Gun murders per 100,000:

CND: 0.72 (2023)
USA, USA, USA: 5.6 (2023)

’murica’s gun murders more than make up for, and then some, Canada’s advantage in knife murders but please, do go on.

You can also argue that if you give everyone in Canada a gun, you would see their knife murders plummet. 

And their gun murders catch up to ‘Muricas. Makes total sense.

(which Liberals don't seem to care about, and I find that fascinating). 

This is a silly rebuttal and you know it.

Tim Simmons

I mean, what’s the eat crow move here? OK I guess liberals should want less guns so there’s less gun deaths? Alright then…

Tim Simmons

Pretty sure the liberal stance is to not have any gun deaths at all