NRA-the massacre wouldn't have happened if teachers had guns

SPEEDY MCCREADY

dimitrispearljam wrote:

unsung wrote:

The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.

how sad is that thought??
maybe will make to school the same security as airports?

Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
I have NO PROBLEM with that.
Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.

riotgrl

unsung wrote:

The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.

Most of the schools near me that have a SRO are ones in which danger is expected primarily because of the location of the school or known dangers perpetrated by the students. These are usually high schools with known drug traffickers and gang members. Do we really want to live in a world where we have to implement extreme measures to protect our children? Perhaps a better discussion to have is one that begins to address the root causes of all these problems. We are not living in an environment that is the best for developing empathetic people. We are raising narcissistic children that lack any empathy for others.

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
I have NO PROBLEM with that.
Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.

i would have a MAJOR problem with my children being in an environment where there were firearms. i mean shit... i have a MAJOR FUCKIN' problem with me being in an environment where there are firearms. but for me at least this whole issue is moot cause my citizenry is not armed. it is a right we do not have and for that i am thankful. the mindset has to change where MORE firearms is the solution to a problem that is more cultural than it is about actually being armed and having that as a god given right.

mickeyrat

unsung wrote:

The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.

not all school districts have that type of funding to start.

But I wonder what your district is protecting students from? What was the reason for implementing this plan of action?

In my district its to prevent violence FROM the students and other teenage thugs(wanna be gangsters).

mickeyrat

dimitrispearljam wrote:

deserteddotse wrote:

even usa has troops al over the planet,there are so many dead from guns in usa..
seems the real war is inside the country....

well, we seem to be slipping in leadership in other areas.

WE"RE #1 WE'RE #1!!!!!!! :fp:

dimitrispearljam

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

unsung wrote:

The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.

how sad is that thought??
maybe will make to school the same security as airports?

Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
I have NO PROBLEM with that.
Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.

Mike ,must be a better solution...
cos isnt the schools only..is the movie theaters,the malls..everywhere there is danger..
need to limit down that danger and not make all the places of the country with fortresses

SPEEDY MCCREADY

dimitrispearljam wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
I have NO PROBLEM with that.
Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.

Mike ,must be a better solution...
cos isnt the schools only..is the movie theaters,the malls..everywhere there is danger..
need to limit down that danger and not make all the places of the country with fortresses

What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

Is there a better answer?
I truly dont know at this point.
But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.

dimitrispearljam

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
I have NO PROBLEM with that.
Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.

Mike ,must be a better solution...
cos isnt the schools only..is the movie theaters,the malls..everywhere there is danger..
need to limit down that danger and not make all the places of the country with fortresses

What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

Is there a better answer?
I truly dont know at this point.
But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.

i agree,children is the first need to be safe..
i hope there was an easy answer-solution...
its really madness the whole

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

Is there a better answer?
I truly dont know at this point.
But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.

heres the thing tho speedy... my children are safe when they go to school. my biggest concern is that they dont jig or that i dont get a call from the vice principal informing me of some minor infraction one of my kids has done. i never have to worry about my kids being shot at or having to huddle in the corner of their classroom. why is that you think? is it cause there is an armed police presence at my childrens school?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

catefrances wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

Is there a better answer?
I truly dont know at this point.
But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.

heres the thing tho speedy... my children are safe when they go to school. my biggest concern is that they dont jig or that i dont get a call from the vice principal informing me of some minor infraction one of my kids has done. i never have to worry about my kids being shot at or having to huddle in the corner of their classroom. why is that you think? is it cause there is an armed police presence at my childrens school?

Our children, here in America are not safe.
That is a fact.

I am missing something here. Please explain why YOUR children are that much safer? If it is because there are no guns where you live, then YES they are safe. Problem is, here in America, there are 200 million guns out there. We cant change that fact. All the gun laws in the world, wont change the fact that there are 200 million guns here.

mickeyrat

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

catefrances wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

Is there a better answer?
I truly dont know at this point.
But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.

heres the thing tho speedy... my children are safe when they go to school. my biggest concern is that they dont jig or that i dont get a call from the vice principal informing me of some minor infraction one of my kids has done. i never have to worry about my kids being shot at or having to huddle in the corner of their classroom. why is that you think? is it cause there is an armed police presence at my childrens school?

Our children, here in America are not safe.
That is a fact.

I am missing something here. Please explain why YOUR children are that much safer? If it is because there are no guns where you live, then YES they are safe. Problem is, here in America, there are 200 million guns out there. We cant change that fact. All the gun laws in the world, wont change the fact that there are 200 million guns here.

we need to ban ammunition!!! THAT is not garaunteed in the constituion.

dimitrispearljam

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

. Problem is, here in America, there are 200 million guns out there. We cant change that fact. All the gun laws in the world, wont change the fact that there are 200 million guns here.

the fuckin number is shocking...

SPEEDY MCCREADY

dimitrispearljam wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

. Problem is, here in America, there are 200 million guns out there. We cant change that fact. All the gun laws in the world, wont change the fact that there are 200 million guns here.

the fuckin number is shocking...

I have read over the last few days numbers ranging from 80 million to 200 million. So again, we can change all the gun laws. We cant take away all of the guns already out there.

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Our children, here in America are not safe.
That is a fact.

I am missing something here. Please explain why YOUR children are that much safer? If it is because there are no guns where you live, then YES they are safe. Problem is, here in America, there are 200 million guns out there. We cant change that fact. All the gun laws in the world, wont change the fact that there are 200 million guns here.

oh that is bullshit speedy. just pure bullshit. yes i know your children are not safe. and it makes me weep. but there is something you can do to change that. its not a greater physical gun presence... its tougher gun laws... not the banning of all guns... but tougher laws. im talking little steps here... little but significant steps. its a change in the mentality of your entire population that the way you all are living is not right... it cant be when massacres take place like this. these children were your future... and they are gone. so YOU tell ME what youre willing to do about it? what is it going to take before the united states of america practices what she preaches? what are you willing to give up to ensure that future generations live in peace in their own school... that your child doesnt one day come to you and say, daddy im scared to go to school.... cause the reason isnt a bully taking her lunch money but the very presence of those guns that you seem to think will keep your child safe. what are you going to tell your child when she comes to you and asks how america got this way? why so many guns daddy? why so much violence?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

catefrances wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Our children, here in America are not safe.
That is a fact.

I am missing something here. Please explain why YOUR children are that much safer? If it is because there are no guns where you live, then YES they are safe. Problem is, here in America, there are 200 million guns out there. We cant change that fact. All the gun laws in the world, wont change the fact that there are 200 million guns here.

oh that is bullshit speedy. just pure bullshit. yes i know your children are not safe. and it makes me weep. but there is something you can do to change that. its not a greater physical gun presence... its tougher gun laws... not the banmning of all guns... but tougher laws. its a change in the mentality of your entire population that the way you all are living is not right... it cant be when massacres take place like this. these children were your future... and they are gone. so YOU tell ME what youre willing to do about it? what is it going to take before the united states of america practices what she preaches? what are you willing to give up to ensure that future generations live in peace in their own school... that your child doesnt one day come to you and say, daddy im scared to go to school.... cause the reason isnt a bully taking her lunch money but the very presence of those guns that you seem to think will keep your child safe. what are you going to tell your child when she comes to you and asks how america got this way? why so many guns daddy? why so much violence?

Well good morning to you too!

And you missed my entire point.

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

catefrances wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Our children, here in America are not safe.
That is a fact.

I am missing something here. Please explain why YOUR children are that much safer? If it is because there are no guns where you live, then YES they are safe. Problem is, here in America, there are 200 million guns out there. We cant change that fact. All the gun laws in the world, wont change the fact that there are 200 million guns here.

oh that is bullshit speedy. just pure bullshit. yes i know your children are not safe. and it makes me weep. but there is something you can do to change that. its not a greater physical gun presence... its tougher gun laws... not the banmning of all guns... but tougher laws. its a change in the mentality of your entire population that the way you all are living is not right... it cant be when massacres take place like this. these children were your future... and they are gone. so YOU tell ME what youre willing to do about it? what is it going to take before the united states of america practices what she preaches? what are you willing to give up to ensure that future generations live in peace in their own school... that your child doesnt one day come to you and say, daddy im scared to go to school.... cause the reason isnt a bully taking her lunch money but the very presence of those guns that you seem to think will keep your child safe. what are you going to tell your child when she comes to you and asks how america got this way? why so many guns daddy? why so much violence?

Well good morning to you too!

And you missed my entire point.

then maybe you can help me understand what i missed.

QuarterToTen

Unfortunately, slowly but surely, we in this country are moving more and more towards a police state.

Something that was appropriate and justified when the Constitution was enacted,
and not at all what our founding fathers could have ever forseen happening in the 'modern world.'

Or maybe it is inevitable given the vicious, animalistic behavior that seems to be thriving.

Do we arm everyone, everywhere? And to what end?

What a world
What a world

dimitrispearljam

one of the things in this problem is for sure the easy access to guns..
things must change to this
when someone have any issues,any madness,what ever that is,NEEDS to know that the solution isnt violence and solve it with guns..
even one day you woke up and want to go out there and start shooting to people,making you to think that you cant find easily a gun,maybe will make rethink it and dont do it..

dimitrispearljam

QuarterToTen wrote:

Unfortunately, slowly but surely, we in this country are moving more and more towards a police state.

its the easy solution...more cameras,more guns,no freedom...
is the name of peace and safety..

nowhere to make a better life,schools,better people,better way of living..

something need to be changed..we arent humans anymore...we become scared little animals trying to survive..and we fear even our shadows...
its sad

SPEEDY MCCREADY

You can make it life in prison, for ANYONE to own a gun.
You can stop the import of guns.
You can close down all the gun makers here in the States.
You can make it IMPOSSIBLE for 99% of the population to legally purchase a gun.
Anyone caught with a gun gets LIFE in prison..PERIOD! No questions asked!
But you cant take away the 80-200 million guns that are already out there. Or can you?