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NRA-the massacre wouldn't have happened if teachers had guns

Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
edited December 2012 in A Moving Train
Heard this on the news this morning, some NRA guy said that.
What a dick.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    the problem is there are so many of those idiots out there..
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    There's also the problem that children need to feel safe and relaxed to learn. A school where teachers and guards walk around with guns would probably not feel safe to a kid!
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    justam wrote:
    There's also the problem that children need to feel safe and relaxed to learn. A school where teachers and guards walk around with guns would probably not feel safe to a kid!
    not to mention the accidents will happen...
    most stupid idea ever...

    most stupid till someone will say that kids dont need to go to schools but to shooting clubs or military training camps
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    justam wrote:
    There's also the problem that children need to feel safe and relaxed to learn. A school where teachers and guards walk around with guns would probably not feel safe to a kid!
    not to mention the accidents will happen...
    most stupid idea ever...

    most stupid till someone will say that kids dont need to go to schools but to shooting clubs or military training camps
    Yes, it really would be just a bunch of accidents waiting to happen! :?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    it would not have happened if this douchebag did not get a gun too...

    fact is, the mom was the responsible gun owner and her son took her guns and killed her and 20 + other people.

    the argument of more guns being necessary for security does not hold water and it is pure conjecture.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Asinine. Just sheer stupidity.

    I prepared something more elogant... but deleted it. I mean, what the hell can you really say about something so moronic?

    Why can't we go one step further and say if nobody had any guns to begin with... the massacre wouldn't have happened?

    The irony of such a stupid remark is that it is consistently one of the key arguments gun lovers put forth in the defence for resisting legislation.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    The NRA are a bunch of fucks.
    Morons trying to make a country paranoid.
    Cannot believe how they can wield so much power and influence on American politics.
    I hope Obama stands up to them.
    The proof that guns are bad is in the bar graph I saw on the news this morning, the USA gun related homicides are way above that of other countries in the world (including Australia) that have restrictions on guns.
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  • deserteddotsedeserteddotse Posts: 1,276
    Scary...
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  • MadScientistMadScientist Posts: 50
    Let us all arm ourselves with a gun! Fucking fools!
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  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    This is asinine. I have no secure place in which to lock a gun, even if I wanted to. What would happen if some kid knew I had a gun in my desk? Then all those metal detectors everybody wants to install in schools would be unnecessary as long as they knew what teachers actually, legally, had guns inside the school. And kids should feel safe with their teachers not be afraid that a crazed teacher or another student could snap at any time and grab a gun. Let's address the real underlying problems in our society instead of continuing to sweep the problems under the rug.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • MadScientistMadScientist Posts: 50
    It's just so absurd. Why would ANYONE need a gun! It's just insane! All guns should be melted and shaped into showels and flowers should be planted. Guns wohooooooo! Let's get guns and shoot everyone in the face wohoooooooiooo! Fuck! Why do people have to be so stupid!
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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    The NRA needs to show a little humanity and compassion and let people grieve. Let people grieve the loss of these lives before they start freaking out about the possible loss of their rights to own an inanimate object that was used as the very tool in these killings. It's this kind of stuff that makes it really hard to hear anything they have to say.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    NRA... no right answer.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

    Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    unsung wrote:
    The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

    Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.


    and how sad is that?
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  • deserteddotsedeserteddotse Posts: 1,276
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    unsung wrote:
    The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

    Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.

    Nice possible parallel except that very very few pilots actually carry in the cockpit because the fear of accidental discharge in that environment outweighs the very small chance of a hijacking.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    deserteddotse wrote:
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    wow everyone in northern ireland who dies by gunfire does it to themselves????
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    unsung wrote:
    The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

    Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.
    how sad is that thought??
    maybe will make to school the same security as airports?
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    deserteddotse wrote:
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    even usa has troops al over the planet,there are so many dead from guns in usa..
    seems the real war is inside the country....
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,625
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

    Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.
    how sad is that thought??
    maybe will make to school the same security as airports?
    Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
    I have NO PROBLEM with that.
    Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
    What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.
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  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    unsung wrote:
    The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

    Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.

    Most of the schools near me that have a SRO are ones in which danger is expected primarily because of the location of the school or known dangers perpetrated by the students. These are usually high schools with known drug traffickers and gang members. Do we really want to live in a world where we have to implement extreme measures to protect our children? Perhaps a better discussion to have is one that begins to address the root causes of all these problems. We are not living in an environment that is the best for developing empathetic people. We are raising narcissistic children that lack any empathy for others.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
    I have NO PROBLEM with that.
    Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
    What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.

    i would have a MAJOR problem with my children being in an environment where there were firearms. i mean shit... i have a MAJOR FUCKIN' problem with me being in an environment where there are firearms. but for me at least this whole issue is moot cause my citizenry is not armed. it is a right we do not have and for that i am thankful. the mindset has to change where MORE firearms is the solution to a problem that is more cultural than it is about actually being armed and having that as a god given right.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    unsung wrote:
    The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

    Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.
    not all school districts have that type of funding to start.

    But I wonder what your district is protecting students from? What was the reason for implementing this plan of action?

    In my district its to prevent violence FROM the students and other teenage thugs(wanna be gangsters).
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    deserteddotse wrote:
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    even usa has troops al over the planet,there are so many dead from guns in usa..
    seems the real war is inside the country....
    well, we seem to be slipping in leadership in other areas.

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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    The thought isn't exactly wrong. We have started to arm pilots for the exact same reason. Arming a teacher may not be the precise right answer, but why was there no adult present that was capable of protecting these children?

    Almost every school near me has it built into their budget for at least one officer to be there during school hours.
    how sad is that thought??
    maybe will make to school the same security as airports?
    Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
    I have NO PROBLEM with that.
    Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
    What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.
    Mike ,must be a better solution...
    cos isnt the schools only..is the movie theaters,the malls..everywhere there is danger..
    need to limit down that danger and not make all the places of the country with fortresses
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,625
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
    I have NO PROBLEM with that.
    Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
    What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.
    Mike ,must be a better solution...
    cos isnt the schools only..is the movie theaters,the malls..everywhere there is danger..
    need to limit down that danger and not make all the places of the country with fortresses
    What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
    If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

    Is there a better answer?
    I truly dont know at this point.
    But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    edited December 2012
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Maybe the schools SHOULD have more security than the airports.
    I have NO PROBLEM with that.
    Police officer, or military, it doesnt make a difference to me.
    What ever needs to be done, to keep these children safe.
    Mike ,must be a better solution...
    cos isnt the schools only..is the movie theaters,the malls..everywhere there is danger..
    need to limit down that danger and not make all the places of the country with fortresses
    What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
    If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

    Is there a better answer?
    I truly dont know at this point.
    But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.
    i agree,children is the first need to be safe..
    i hope there was an easy answer-solution...
    its really madness the whole
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
    If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

    Is there a better answer?
    I truly dont know at this point.
    But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.

    heres the thing tho speedy... my children are safe when they go to school. my biggest concern is that they dont jig or that i dont get a call from the vice principal informing me of some minor infraction one of my kids has done. i never have to worry about my kids being shot at or having to huddle in the corner of their classroom. why is that you think? is it cause there is an armed police presence at my childrens school?
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,625
    catefrances wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    What ever the fuck it takes to make those children safe.
    If it needs to be police presense, then so be it.

    Is there a better answer?
    I truly dont know at this point.
    But those school children, FIRST and FOREMOST, need to be safe.

    heres the thing tho speedy... my children are safe when they go to school. my biggest concern is that they dont jig or that i dont get a call from the vice principal informing me of some minor infraction one of my kids has done. i never have to worry about my kids being shot at or having to huddle in the corner of their classroom. why is that you think? is it cause there is an armed police presence at my childrens school?
    Our children, here in America are not safe.
    That is a fact.

    I am missing something here. Please explain why YOUR children are that much safer? If it is because there are no guns where you live, then YES they are safe. Problem is, here in America, there are 200 million guns out there. We cant change that fact. All the gun laws in the world, wont change the fact that there are 200 million guns here.
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