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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
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    :lol: .... :shock:
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    I did a little digging to back up my second paragraph above.

    Romney basically lumped the 47% who don't pay taxes as the same 47% who will automatically vote for Obama, and basically called these 47% lazy people looking for handouts.

    Check out this map... States with the highest number of the non-income tax paying 47%'ers are red states.

    20100524-229-nonpayers-mapM.jpg

    Calling them all worthless and lazy should really help his voter turnout in November.

    Source: http://taxfoundation.org:81/article/sta ... -liability

    Can I keep bumping this?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    whygohome wrote:
    I did a little digging to back up my second paragraph above.

    Romney basically lumped the 47% who don't pay taxes as the same 47% who will automatically vote for Obama, and basically called these 47% lazy people looking for handouts.

    Check out this map... States with the highest number of the non-income tax paying 47%'ers are red states.

    20100524-229-nonpayers-mapM.jpg

    Calling them all worthless and lazy should really help his voter turnout in November.

    Source: http://taxfoundation.org:81/article/sta ... -liability

    Can I keep bumping this?


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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Godfather. wrote:
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
    only $1.99 for the first 10 min. and only $1.90 every min after that.
    all call's are subject to holds of greater than 10 min.

    :lol: .... :shock:

    I'd venture to guess that you are about as accurate as most of these psychic's too.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
    only $1.99 for the first 10 min. and only $1.90 every min after that.
    all call's are subject to holds of greater than 10 min.

    :lol: .... :shock:

    I'd venture to guess that you are about as accurate as most of these psychic's too.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Jason P wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
    only $1.99 for the first 10 min. and only $1.90 every min after that.
    all call's are subject to holds of greater than 10 min.

    :lol: .... :shock:

    I'd venture to guess that you are about as accurate as most of these psychic's too.
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1eWlJgv9UXSuIyieBkyLUezaXFjQue1VDWx7ZtZnNLSpOsJY5AQ

    :lol:
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    polaris_x wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Rep. Chaka Fattah, D-Penn., explained last night how unemployment could actually encourage people to vote for President Obama in order to secure welfare benefits such as food stamps.

    "Unemployment continues to drop and those people who are unemployed, they're not going to be voting for the party who wants to cut their benefits -- cut access to food stamps, cut job training," Fattah, Senior Member of the House Appropriations Committee, told MSNBC's Al Sharpton last night.




    I don't think anyone here would accuse me of being a Romney defender, I think he is a dipshit. However it is
    interesting how 'who' says it in what way makes a big difference.

    Isn't this essentially the same claim. that people who are on entitlements will vote for Obama? now he didn't make a silly claim of percentages, but 47% or not...isn't this the same?

    I don't know. Romney looks and behaves like a man who doesn't want to win

    no ... it's not the same ...

    having to be on unemployment or requiring assistance is not the same as being victims or feeling entitled or being dependent on gov't ...

    having said that - saying stupid things is not something romney has a monopoly on ... i am pretty sure that obama and other democrats will stick their foot in their mouths ...


    good point, but he didn't just talk about unemployment. he talked about all benefits.

    I don't think the dems will to be honest. Republicans, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Pretty telling of the standing of a party that they aren't running away with this considering the state of the country.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    good point, but he didn't just talk about unemployment. he talked about all benefits.

    I don't think the dems will to be honest. Republicans, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Pretty telling of the standing of a party that they aren't running away with this considering the state of the country.

    ya ... which makes it even less inflammatory in my opinion ...

    oh the dems will talk stupid shit too ... because unfortunately for americans - morons aren't a partisan phenomenon ... but yeah - like i've been saying ... it's pretty disturbing to think that mitt is the best the GOP could produce but then again when you spend 4 years basically trying to derail the president and have abosolutely zero interest in the american people - it's not that surprising ...
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jason P wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
    only $1.99 for the first 10 min. and only $1.90 every min after that.
    all call's are subject to holds of greater than 10 min.

    :lol: .... :shock:

    I'd venture to guess that you are about as accurate as most of these psychic's too.
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1eWlJgv9UXSuIyieBkyLUezaXFjQue1VDWx7ZtZnNLSpOsJY5AQ


    we all have cubical's in a small office building in downtown springfield :lol:


    Godfather.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I don't think the dems will to be honest. Republicans, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Pretty telling of the standing of a party that they aren't running away with this considering the state of the country.

    Is it really all that surprising that people don't want to put into power the people who got us into this mess to start with?
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  • The Little Red Hen - 2012 Version
    "Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the cow.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Not I," said the pig.
    "Not I," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and ripened.
    "Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Out of my classification," said the pig.
    "I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.
    "Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.
    "That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
    "I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
    "If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.
    She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."
    "Excess profits!" cried the cow. (Nancy Pelosi)
    "Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck. (Barbara Boxer)
    "I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose. (Jesse Jackson)
    The pig just grunted in disdain. (Harry Reid)
    And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
    Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, "You must not be so greedy."
    "But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
    "Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle." And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."
    But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
    EPILOGUE
    Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
    Hillary got $8 million for hers.
    That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
    IS THIS A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    The Little Red Hen - 2012 Version
    "Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the cow.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Not I," said the pig.
    "Not I," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and ripened.
    "Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Out of my classification," said the pig.
    "I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.
    "Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.
    "That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
    "I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
    "If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.
    She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."
    "Excess profits!" cried the cow. (Nancy Pelosi)
    "Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck. (Barbara Boxer)
    "I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose. (Jesse Jackson)
    The pig just grunted in disdain. (Harry Reid)
    And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
    Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, "You must not be so greedy."
    "But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
    "Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle." And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."
    But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
    EPILOGUE
    Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
    Hillary got $8 million for hers.
    That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
    IS THIS A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?

    Finally, you accept that your rhetoric is at the level of a nursery rhyme...a bad one at that.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    The Little Red Hen - 2012 Version
    "Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the cow.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Not I," said the pig.
    "Not I," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and ripened.
    "Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Out of my classification," said the pig.
    "I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.
    "Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.
    "That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
    "I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
    "If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.
    She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."
    "Excess profits!" cried the cow. (Nancy Pelosi)
    "Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck. (Barbara Boxer)
    "I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose. (Jesse Jackson)
    The pig just grunted in disdain. (Harry Reid)
    And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
    Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, "You must not be so greedy."
    "But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
    "Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle." And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."
    But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
    EPILOGUE
    Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
    Hillary got $8 million for hers.
    That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
    IS THIS A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?


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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    It is very ironic that the 99% feel so helpless yet they vote Democratic every year. Why is Gary, Indiana a dump after so many decades? COuld it have anything to do with Democratic politicians they elect every year? The Democrats don't care about people, they care about dependency on government and power.

    Republicans - you make your destiny
    Democrats - government makes your destiny

    This country was founded on people being able to control their own destiny. Romney is correct that there are a huge amount of voters who just want handouts from government, and there is nothing he can say to change that.

    It is very sad that there is so much dependency on goverment. We'll never get a leader elected who can fix problems because there are so many people who blindly vote based on handouts. Social security is going bankrupt. Medicare/Medicaid is going bankrupt. We need leaders who will make tough decisions to fix these programs, but we don't have the people that will vote for those leaders because they think they are entitled to everything for free.
    If Gary Indiana is a shithole because of liberals, please explain the whole state of Mississippi, the most conservative state in the union.
    Might not be the best example.....conservative state, yes.....but like most Southern states, it controlled by the Democratic Party from the 1880's through to at least the 1980's....Southern Democrats, but Democrats nonetheless.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    The video of Romney ... that was a $50,000 per plate fundraiser ... and he didn't even have Ed there to entice people to show up. :shock:

    It matter not what he says. He hold a distinct advantage money wise over Obama and is going to carpet bomb the airwaves in October.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    The video of Romney ... that was a $50,000 per plate fundraiser ... and he didn't even have Ed there to entice people to show up. :shock:

    It matter not what he says. He hold a distinct advantage money wise over Obama and is going to carpet bomb the airwaves in October.

    every report i've seen says obama has way more money than romney ... :?: :?:
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,434
    Jason P wrote:
    The video of Romney ... that was a $50,000 per plate fundraiser ... and he didn't even have Ed there to entice people to show up. :shock:

    It matter not what he says. He hold a distinct advantage money wise over Obama and is going to carpet bomb the airwaves in October.

    A lot of voting will be underway soon and many voters will have already cast their ballots by mid-October, let alone the 90% or so who have already made up their minds.

    Ads that are carpet-bombed have diminishing returns. People just start tuning this stuff out at a certain point. And the Obama Campaign isn't exactly in the poor house.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Jason P wrote:
    The video of Romney ... that was a $50,000 per plate fundraiser ... and he didn't even have Ed there to entice people to show up. :shock:

    It matter not what he says. He hold a distinct advantage money wise over Obama and is going to carpet bomb the airwaves in October.
    Obama beat Romney last month in money raised... they both have piles of it to spend on the campaign.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
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    Jenga? Or Romney’s Presidential Campaign?