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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,018
    pandora wrote:
    I guess that leaves 53% who aren't on government aid, being overly taxed to
    pay for others, with a 16 trillion dollar deficit to show. :wtf:

    I can't believe we have become a country of handouts. This is what failure looks like.

    53% - 47% ... hmmm ...
    will it even make a difference?
    Err... this is just not correct, please don't believe it.
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  • I agree with what he said about the people who have allready made up their minds me being one of the one's that was not ever gonna vote for him , but just the desdain he holds for people who are not like him is pathetic hi's true colors did come out ....What a fool he doesn't know how to run a campaign at all .... :lol::lol:
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,018
    hedonist wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    If that is really his attitude towards half the population, he is a very dangerous man to have as President.... it makes him look kind of evil and sick too, which doesn't help. :?
    Still got a shitload left to read here, but...evil and sick? I appreciated his honesty, and his standing by his comments.

    (and you, my dear, are typically more level-headed than that!)

    Anyway, I recall Obama (on more than one occasion) writing off half the population as well - as in, those who disagree with him.

    I don't want divisiveness on either side. It's not needed. It does no good.

    Tell me what YOU are going to do. If you've got a solid plan, there's no need to bash someone else in the process.
    (I am SO looking forward to the time between now and early November!)
    I'm feeling pretty level headed, but yeah, honestly, I really do find Romney's statements very, very disturbing, and the more I think about it, the more I suspect that he's actually a pretty rotten human being. It's not just about how he thinks of these things in the context of his campaign. It's how he clearly personally feels about the less fortunate and those who are struggling. The disdain he feels, and how dismissive he is as someone who is running for the POTUS, I think his comments said a LOT more about what kind of human being he is than what kind of politician he is.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... true_.html
    means tested... I see

    Mitt Romney told a group of campaign contributors in May that 47 percent of Americans pay no income taxes and “believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it” from the government. Romney is basically correct on the tax claim. But what about his government-assistance estimate: Do 47 percent of Americans really receive direct government aid?
    Sort of, but they’re probably not the people he had in mind. About 49 percent of Americans live in households that receive some form of government benefits, according to the libertarian Mercatus Center at George Washington University, based on data from 2010. Not all of those people, however, are dependent on those benefits, as Romney implied. A significant proportion of government assistance comes in the form of Social Security and Medicare, for which eligibility is based on age rather than need. Considering only “means-tested” programs, such as food stamps, Medicaid, and housing assistance, around 35 percent of Americans live in households that benefit from government assistance.
    Romney complained about health care, food aid, and housing assistance, in that order—and that’s precisely how the programs line up in terms of total beneficiaries. If you receive only one form of means-tested government assistance, it’s probably Medicaid. In 2010, 26 percent of Americans lived in households that received heath care benefits through the program. The 2010 Affordable Care Act sought to increase that number significantly, planning to add 16 million people to the Medicaid rolls by 2019. The new law would have pushed the percentage of U.S. households receiving means-tested government assistance toward 40 percent. The Supreme Court, however, struck down that portion of the law, making it voluntary, and states are now deciding whether to participate.


    The next largest means-tested government aid program is food stamps. Fifteen percent of the U.S. population, or more than 46 million, receive help through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. Around half that number participate in the Women, Infants, and Children program, which also provides food aid. (Some households receive assistance from both programs.)
    Compared with Medicaid and food stamps, housing assistance is pretty rare. As of 2010, just 4 percent of Americans received rental assistance or lived in government-subsidized housing.
    Health care assistance is far more common than food or housing aid because Medicaid isn’t really a poverty-relief program. A child in New York state, for example, may be eligible for government-funded health care if his family’s household income is less than four times the federal poverty level, or $92,200 for a family of four. Many other states offer Medicaid to adults and children at double or triple the poverty level. In North Dakota, the most restrictive Medicaid state, the income limit for child health insurance is 1.6 times the federal poverty level. By contrast, you can’t receive food stamps if your net income exceeds the federal poverty level. As for housing, New York, one of the more generous states, limits its Section 8 housing aid to families of four earning less than $38,400, less than half the maximum income for the state’s children’s health insurance.



    interesting
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,762
    Wow, this really blew up.

    Few things:

    -This Republican idea of "47%" is very insulting to those who worked their whole lives paying into SS & Medicare and are now receiving the benefits they paid for.

    -I agree there are way too many "moochers," although it is nowhere near 47%.

    -Many of these moochers are going to vote for Romney and vote for Republicans in every election, just so those dang Democrats don't take away their guns and ban churches.

    -I am not a moocher. I'm part of the "53%" and I am voting for Obama.

    -Or am I being obtuse?

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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Rep. Chaka Fattah, D-Penn., explained last night how unemployment could actually encourage people to vote for President Obama in order to secure welfare benefits such as food stamps.

    "Unemployment continues to drop and those people who are unemployed, they're not going to be voting for the party who wants to cut their benefits -- cut access to food stamps, cut job training," Fattah, Senior Member of the House Appropriations Committee, told MSNBC's Al Sharpton last night.




    I don't think anyone here would accuse me of being a Romney defender, I think he is a dipshit. However it is
    interesting how 'who' says it in what way makes a big difference.

    Isn't this essentially the same claim. that people who are on entitlements will vote for Obama? now he didn't make a silly claim of percentages, but 47% or not...isn't this the same?

    I don't know. Romney looks and behaves like a man who doesn't want to win
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Wow, this really blew up.

    Few things:

    -This Republican idea of "47%" is very insulting to those who worked their whole lives paying into SS & Medicare and are now receiving the benefits they paid for.

    -I agree there are way too many "moochers," although it is nowhere near 47%.

    -Many of these moochers are going to vote for Romney and vote for Republicans in every election, just so those dang Democrats don't take away their guns and ban churches.

    -I am not a moocher. I'm part of the "53%" and I am voting for Obama.

    -Or am I being obtuse?

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    where I work and other unions I have been in always vote D for everything no matter what the deal is and I guess there are R's that do the same thing, I have never voted for a party (unless it was a kegger and a live band) I always voted for whom I thought do the best job and who I felt comfortable voting for and never matered if it was an independent- republican- democrat- female or a womanizing sax player,the way I see it if you vote to support a party your not seeing the big picture..unless that party has a live band and a kegrer :D

    Godfather.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Rep. Chaka Fattah, D-Penn., explained last night how unemployment could actually encourage people to vote for President Obama in order to secure welfare benefits such as food stamps.

    "Unemployment continues to drop and those people who are unemployed, they're not going to be voting for the party who wants to cut their benefits -- cut access to food stamps, cut job training," Fattah, Senior Member of the House Appropriations Committee, told MSNBC's Al Sharpton last night.




    I don't think anyone here would accuse me of being a Romney defender, I think he is a dipshit. However it is
    interesting how 'who' says it in what way makes a big difference.

    Isn't this essentially the same claim. that people who are on entitlements will vote for Obama? now he didn't make a silly claim of percentages, but 47% or not...isn't this the same?

    I don't know. Romney looks and behaves like a man who doesn't want to win

    no ... it's not the same ...

    having to be on unemployment or requiring assistance is not the same as being victims or feeling entitled or being dependent on gov't ...

    having said that - saying stupid things is not something romney has a monopoly on ... i am pretty sure that obama and other democrats will stick their foot in their mouths ...
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,762
    polaris_x wrote:
    having said that - saying stupid things is not something romney has a monopoly on ... i am pretty sure that obama and other democrats will stick their foot in their mouths ...

    Biden said something like "no comment - I'll let his words speak for themselves." Just keep it that way Joe. :lol:
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Biden said something like "no comment - I'll let his words speak for themselves." Just keep it that way Joe. :lol:

    :lol::lol: ya ... stay on script joe ...
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
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    :lol: .... :shock:
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    I did a little digging to back up my second paragraph above.

    Romney basically lumped the 47% who don't pay taxes as the same 47% who will automatically vote for Obama, and basically called these 47% lazy people looking for handouts.

    Check out this map... States with the highest number of the non-income tax paying 47%'ers are red states.

    20100524-229-nonpayers-mapM.jpg

    Calling them all worthless and lazy should really help his voter turnout in November.

    Source: http://taxfoundation.org:81/article/sta ... -liability

    Can I keep bumping this?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,895
    whygohome wrote:
    I did a little digging to back up my second paragraph above.

    Romney basically lumped the 47% who don't pay taxes as the same 47% who will automatically vote for Obama, and basically called these 47% lazy people looking for handouts.

    Check out this map... States with the highest number of the non-income tax paying 47%'ers are red states.

    20100524-229-nonpayers-mapM.jpg

    Calling them all worthless and lazy should really help his voter turnout in November.

    Source: http://taxfoundation.org:81/article/sta ... -liability

    Can I keep bumping this?


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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,895
    Godfather. wrote:
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
    only $1.99 for the first 10 min. and only $1.90 every min after that.
    all call's are subject to holds of greater than 10 min.

    :lol: .... :shock:

    I'd venture to guess that you are about as accurate as most of these psychic's too.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
    only $1.99 for the first 10 min. and only $1.90 every min after that.
    all call's are subject to holds of greater than 10 min.

    :lol: .... :shock:

    I'd venture to guess that you are about as accurate as most of these psychic's too.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,895
    Jason P wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
    only $1.99 for the first 10 min. and only $1.90 every min after that.
    all call's are subject to holds of greater than 10 min.

    :lol: .... :shock:

    I'd venture to guess that you are about as accurate as most of these psychic's too.
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1eWlJgv9UXSuIyieBkyLUezaXFjQue1VDWx7ZtZnNLSpOsJY5AQ

    :lol:
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    polaris_x wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Rep. Chaka Fattah, D-Penn., explained last night how unemployment could actually encourage people to vote for President Obama in order to secure welfare benefits such as food stamps.

    "Unemployment continues to drop and those people who are unemployed, they're not going to be voting for the party who wants to cut their benefits -- cut access to food stamps, cut job training," Fattah, Senior Member of the House Appropriations Committee, told MSNBC's Al Sharpton last night.




    I don't think anyone here would accuse me of being a Romney defender, I think he is a dipshit. However it is
    interesting how 'who' says it in what way makes a big difference.

    Isn't this essentially the same claim. that people who are on entitlements will vote for Obama? now he didn't make a silly claim of percentages, but 47% or not...isn't this the same?

    I don't know. Romney looks and behaves like a man who doesn't want to win

    no ... it's not the same ...

    having to be on unemployment or requiring assistance is not the same as being victims or feeling entitled or being dependent on gov't ...

    having said that - saying stupid things is not something romney has a monopoly on ... i am pretty sure that obama and other democrats will stick their foot in their mouths ...


    good point, but he didn't just talk about unemployment. he talked about all benefits.

    I don't think the dems will to be honest. Republicans, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Pretty telling of the standing of a party that they aren't running away with this considering the state of the country.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    good point, but he didn't just talk about unemployment. he talked about all benefits.

    I don't think the dems will to be honest. Republicans, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Pretty telling of the standing of a party that they aren't running away with this considering the state of the country.

    ya ... which makes it even less inflammatory in my opinion ...

    oh the dems will talk stupid shit too ... because unfortunately for americans - morons aren't a partisan phenomenon ... but yeah - like i've been saying ... it's pretty disturbing to think that mitt is the best the GOP could produce but then again when you spend 4 years basically trying to derail the president and have abosolutely zero interest in the american people - it's not that surprising ...
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jason P wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well...I'm using my paranormal powers to predict the future....it's coming ...clearer..ohh a little better...yes I see it now....and yes it's... it's..Mitt Romney in the white house as our new president !

    call 1-800-Godfather. for personal reading's for romance-money or work related issues.
    only $1.99 for the first 10 min. and only $1.90 every min after that.
    all call's are subject to holds of greater than 10 min.

    :lol: .... :shock:

    I'd venture to guess that you are about as accurate as most of these psychic's too.
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1eWlJgv9UXSuIyieBkyLUezaXFjQue1VDWx7ZtZnNLSpOsJY5AQ


    we all have cubical's in a small office building in downtown springfield :lol:


    Godfather.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,762
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I don't think the dems will to be honest. Republicans, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Pretty telling of the standing of a party that they aren't running away with this considering the state of the country.

    Is it really all that surprising that people don't want to put into power the people who got us into this mess to start with?
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  • The Little Red Hen - 2012 Version
    "Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the cow.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Not I," said the pig.
    "Not I," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and ripened.
    "Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Out of my classification," said the pig.
    "I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.
    "Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.
    "That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
    "I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
    "If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.
    She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."
    "Excess profits!" cried the cow. (Nancy Pelosi)
    "Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck. (Barbara Boxer)
    "I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose. (Jesse Jackson)
    The pig just grunted in disdain. (Harry Reid)
    And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
    Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, "You must not be so greedy."
    "But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
    "Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle." And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."
    But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
    EPILOGUE
    Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
    Hillary got $8 million for hers.
    That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
    IS THIS A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    The Little Red Hen - 2012 Version
    "Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the cow.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Not I," said the pig.
    "Not I," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and ripened.
    "Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Out of my classification," said the pig.
    "I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.
    "Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.
    "That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
    "I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
    "If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.
    She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."
    "Excess profits!" cried the cow. (Nancy Pelosi)
    "Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck. (Barbara Boxer)
    "I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose. (Jesse Jackson)
    The pig just grunted in disdain. (Harry Reid)
    And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
    Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, "You must not be so greedy."
    "But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
    "Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle." And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."
    But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
    EPILOGUE
    Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
    Hillary got $8 million for hers.
    That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
    IS THIS A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?

    Finally, you accept that your rhetoric is at the level of a nursery rhyme...a bad one at that.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,895
    The Little Red Hen - 2012 Version
    "Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the cow.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Not I," said the pig.
    "Not I," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and ripened.
    "Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Out of my classification," said the pig.
    "I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.
    "Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.
    "That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
    "I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
    "If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.
    She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."
    "Excess profits!" cried the cow. (Nancy Pelosi)
    "Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck. (Barbara Boxer)
    "I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose. (Jesse Jackson)
    The pig just grunted in disdain. (Harry Reid)
    And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
    Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, "You must not be so greedy."
    "But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
    "Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle." And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."
    But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
    EPILOGUE
    Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
    Hillary got $8 million for hers.
    That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
    IS THIS A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?


    Honest question, and I won't hold my breath for an answer, but do you believe in any type of safety net?
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    It is very ironic that the 99% feel so helpless yet they vote Democratic every year. Why is Gary, Indiana a dump after so many decades? COuld it have anything to do with Democratic politicians they elect every year? The Democrats don't care about people, they care about dependency on government and power.

    Republicans - you make your destiny
    Democrats - government makes your destiny

    This country was founded on people being able to control their own destiny. Romney is correct that there are a huge amount of voters who just want handouts from government, and there is nothing he can say to change that.

    It is very sad that there is so much dependency on goverment. We'll never get a leader elected who can fix problems because there are so many people who blindly vote based on handouts. Social security is going bankrupt. Medicare/Medicaid is going bankrupt. We need leaders who will make tough decisions to fix these programs, but we don't have the people that will vote for those leaders because they think they are entitled to everything for free.
    If Gary Indiana is a shithole because of liberals, please explain the whole state of Mississippi, the most conservative state in the union.
    Might not be the best example.....conservative state, yes.....but like most Southern states, it controlled by the Democratic Party from the 1880's through to at least the 1980's....Southern Democrats, but Democrats nonetheless.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,762
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    The video of Romney ... that was a $50,000 per plate fundraiser ... and he didn't even have Ed there to entice people to show up. :shock:

    It matter not what he says. He hold a distinct advantage money wise over Obama and is going to carpet bomb the airwaves in October.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    The video of Romney ... that was a $50,000 per plate fundraiser ... and he didn't even have Ed there to entice people to show up. :shock:

    It matter not what he says. He hold a distinct advantage money wise over Obama and is going to carpet bomb the airwaves in October.

    every report i've seen says obama has way more money than romney ... :?: :?:
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,762
    Jason P wrote:
    The video of Romney ... that was a $50,000 per plate fundraiser ... and he didn't even have Ed there to entice people to show up. :shock:

    It matter not what he says. He hold a distinct advantage money wise over Obama and is going to carpet bomb the airwaves in October.

    A lot of voting will be underway soon and many voters will have already cast their ballots by mid-October, let alone the 90% or so who have already made up their minds.

    Ads that are carpet-bombed have diminishing returns. People just start tuning this stuff out at a certain point. And the Obama Campaign isn't exactly in the poor house.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,018
    Jason P wrote:
    The video of Romney ... that was a $50,000 per plate fundraiser ... and he didn't even have Ed there to entice people to show up. :shock:

    It matter not what he says. He hold a distinct advantage money wise over Obama and is going to carpet bomb the airwaves in October.
    Obama beat Romney last month in money raised... they both have piles of it to spend on the campaign.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
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    Jenga? Or Romney’s Presidential Campaign?
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