I don't see what was wrong with what he said. It's true.
It goes for both sides, there are people dead set on their vote no matter what.
I'm liberal, but give props to Romney for at least being honest.
For every lazy liberal there are plenty of hard working selfless liberals to make up for it and make things better.
For every hard working conservative, there's a handful of white trash conservatives who will hide behind the handouts they receive, and pretend they have conservative values, while they lie, cheat, steal and pray to cover their asses.
I don't see what was wrong with what he said. It's true.
It goes for both sides, there are people dead set on their vote no matter what.
I'm liberal, but give props to Romney for at least being honest.
For every lazy liberal there are plenty of hard working selfless liberals to make up for it and make things better.
For every hard working conservative, there's a handful of white trash conservatives who will hide behind the handouts they receive, and pretend they have conservative values, while they lie, cheat, steal and pray to cover their asses.
your a pragmatist, good on you. however the "my team vs their team" bullshit will not play well. He basically doubled down again last night at that bizarro press conference. He's giving approx 50% of our voting population a big fuck you.
and to the simpletons that compare this to obama's 'guns and religion' comment. go find a google machine and turn to page 2 (of that transcript-ed speech) where he says he will be visiting them on the campaign trail to listen and win them over.
San Diego Sports Arena - Oct 25, 2000 MGM Grand - Jul 6, 2006 Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006 New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival - May 1, 2010 Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011 Made In America, Philly - Sep 2, 2012 EV, Houston - Nov 12-13, 2012 Dallas-November 2013 OKC-November 2013 ACL 2-October 2014 Fenway Night 1, August 2016 Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018 Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023 Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023 Austin, Night 1 September 2023 Austin, Night 2 September 2023
I don't see what was wrong with what he said. It's true.
It goes for both sides, there are people dead set on their vote no matter what.
That's not what he said.
He said that all democrats and anyone who will vote for the president are a bunch of lazy people who only want handouts. He said that the only people who have jobs and want to work are Republicans or people who will consider voting for him.
It shows how clueless he is about America. Equating half of the whole country with a bunch of moochers and leaches and welfare bums. Saying that ANYONE who voted for the president feels the government should give them food and housing and health care.
Clearly not true. But it's also obnoxious and dismissive and shows that to him, being the president just means catering to the "rich" people who could consider voting for him. He makes it clear that he doesn't give a shit about anyone who has a lower income and thinks they're just a burden to he and his billionaire buddies.
AND it shows that as a president, he would do nothing to create jobs... he'd do nothing to help the working class and doesn't feel it's his job... his job is to make it so the richer people can get richer.
Most of the people in that ROOM pay little to no income tax and it's not secret that states with more "rich" people are usually the "Blue" states.
Which to me is always odd when I hear Republicans whining about the mega-million fund raisers that are held for the Democratic party in Hollywood, The Hamptons, New York or Seattle.
good point, but he didn't just talk about unemployment. he talked about all benefits.
I don't think the dems will to be honest. Republicans, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Pretty telling of the standing of a party that they aren't running away with this considering the state of the country.
ya ... which makes it even less inflammatory in my opinion ...
oh the dems will talk stupid shit too ... because unfortunately for americans - morons aren't a partisan phenomenon ... but yeah - like i've been saying ... it's pretty disturbing to think that mitt is the best the GOP could produce but then again when you spend 4 years basically trying to derail the president and have abosolutely zero interest in the american people - it's not that surprising ...
Bachman
Cain
Trump
Santorum
Palin
Add to the list of Bat shit crazy candidates. I can't keep track of them all. For all the wackos they wanted, they had to settle for Romney, the least wacky of the bunch
I don't see what was wrong with what he said. It's true.
It goes for both sides, there are people dead set on their vote no matter what.
That's not what he said.
He said that all democrats and anyone who will vote for the president are a bunch of lazy people who only want handouts. He said that the only people who have jobs and want to work are Republicans or people who will consider voting for him.
It shows how clueless he is about America. Equating half of the whole country with a bunch of moochers and leaches and welfare bums. Saying that ANYONE who voted for the president feels the government should give them food and housing and health care.
Clearly not true. But it's also obnoxious and dismissive and shows that to him, being the president just means catering to the "rich" people who could consider voting for him. He makes it clear that he doesn't give a shit about anyone who has a lower income and thinks they're just a burden to he and his billionaire buddies.
AND it shows that as a president, he would do nothing to create jobs... he'd do nothing to help the working class and doesn't feel it's his job... his job is to make it so the richer people can get richer.
Most of the people in that ROOM pay little to no income tax and it's not secret that states with more "rich" people are usually the "Blue" states.
Which to me is always odd when I hear Republicans whining about the mega-million fund raisers that are held for the Democratic party in Hollywood, The Hamptons, New York or Seattle.
I don't see what was wrong with what he said. It's true.
It goes for both sides, there are people dead set on their vote no matter what.
I'm liberal, but give props to Romney for at least being honest.
For every lazy liberal there are plenty of hard working selfless liberals to make up for it and make things better.
For every hard working conservative, there's a handful of white trash conservatives who will hide behind the handouts they receive, and pretend they have conservative values, while they lie, cheat, steal and pray to cover their asses.
your a pragmatist, good on you. however the "my team vs their team" bullshit will not play well. He basically doubled down again last night at that bizarro press conference. He's giving approx 50% of our voting population a big fuck you.
and to the simpletons that compare this to obama's 'guns and religion' comment. go find a google machine and turn to page 2 (of that transcript-ed speech) where he says he will be visiting them on the campaign trail to listen and win them over.
Can't win over bought votes ...
It's clear these votes are going to the candidate who is providing for them.
It also comes down to very basic ideologies too ...
some want a government who takes care of them.
Problem is we can't afford it.
The more people being provided for the more people who want that too...
fair share entitled.
As far as Obama's campaign words ...
he is a great speech giver, inspires trust and confidence.
Believing in him though at this point must rely on his record and where the country is
under his leadership.
I'm still a fence sitter someone whom it seems Romney is directing his words too....
Independent moderates...
one definition...
"A liberal believes that government can be used to alleviate social ills.
A conservative holds that individuals are responsible for their own situation, and government should not be involved.
A moderate holds an intermediate position between liberal and conservative."
LikeAnOcean...
perfectly said, non biased and insightful. :thumbup:
Take personal responsibilty for your life. Couldn't be a better quote actually.
:thumbup:
Not one democrat here disagrees with personal responsibility. What we dont agree with is stereotyping half the country into lazy dependent moochers when that is clearly not the case. Not only is it ignorant, it's incredibly idiotic. read David brooks or David frums article, both great take from real conservatives, not the bullshit the GOP tries to pass as conservative theses days.
My 101 grandfather, lazy fucking mooch, doesn't pay taxes and will vote democrat.
Not one democrat here disagrees with personal responsibility. What we dont agree with is stereotyping half the country into lazy dependent moochers when that is clearly not the case. Not only is it ignorant, it's incredibly idiotic. read David brooks or David frums article, both great take from real conservatives, not the bullshit the GOP tries to pass as conservative theses days.
My 101 grandfather, lazy fucking mooch, doesn't pay taxes and will vote democrat.
I agree Cliffy, we all have personal responsibility even in the face of adversity in these economic times. I was unemployed for some time years ago and could've gotten unemployment but chose NOT to. Survived, not sure why i did that but i kept myself busy doing other things had I been working. Finally got the job I wanted without any dependency on our government and yes I am a Democrat....one who proudly didn't vote for Obama the first time but surely will come November.
Peac3
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
"Relativity applies to physics, not ethics."
— Albert Einstein
Not sure how old (mature ) everybody is here, but lemme throw this out...
My grandparents came here from Italy. Had 10 kids...Not 1 graduated from HS let alone went to college. Not one of them relied on unemployment or gov't "hand outs". In fact, "back in the day" it was possible to be a drop out, get a menial job, and still make enough money to marry, raise a family, own a home, with only 1 parent working. This was 30 years ago, and I know, lived it firsthand as did most of my friends. Back then, businesses paid almost 70% of all income taxes and the top marginal rate was more than 90%. Now, everyone (even many of the "better off") have to work their backsides off, both spouses have to work, and corporations pay less than 25% of income taxes, and only the top 10% of all wage earners have seen ANY increase in their standard of living in those same aforementioned 30 years . And with a top marginal rate of 35%, the 1%ers are complaining that they pay too much of the taxes. Are there slackers? Yep. Are there "teet takers? Yep. The rich are killing the middle class (whats left of it) and killing everything that made America great.
Up until 6 mos ago I had an awesome job, made more $$$ then I ever had - as a college grad. My wife raised our 3 kids, was able to volunteer and did some side work as a way to help our income.
I lost my job, due to the economy - not work performance. I had to get rid of the house also...
I have 6 wks left of all the nest egg we had saved for 14 yrs...
The "gov't help" will be 1/6 of what I was earning monthly - not enough to support the family. I have worked every single day since I was 16 yrs old and will be 40 in Nov.
I am struggling mightily to gain re-employment...
I am no mooch and certainly not trying to be a freeloader. I am entitled to unemployment as I paid into it as did the company that "eliminated my position". yet I am fearful to try to apply as I feel as there are people walking around this planet who think I am lazy, freeloading and trying to milk the system. Hearing Romney's comments - as originally posted in the first post - made me sick to my stomach. Thanks for listening and commenting everyone, I appreciate the dialogue...
Now That My Campaign Is Over, I'd Like To Talk To You All About The Church Of Latter-Day Saints
BY MITT ROMNEY
REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
SEPTEMBER 19, 2012 | ISSUE 48•38 | MORE COMMENTARY
My fellow Americans, can I have a moment of your time?
It would appear that, following yesterday’s leaking of a video that shows me effectively writing off half the nation’s voters, we can pretty safely say my presidential campaign has come to an end. Oh, technically it may still exist, sure, but let’s be honest with each other: It’s all over. And I have fully accepted that reality.
So, with that in mind, I would like to use my few remaining weeks in the public spotlight to tell the nation all about a truly great religious organization called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
You see, folks, I speak to you now not as the Republican Party’s failed nominee for the presidency, but as an ordinary American whose life has been changed by the vision of a very special man named Joseph Smith. And I would like to take this opportunity to share with you some information about an exciting and life-changing faith that has long held a special place in my heart and in the hearts of everyone in the Romney family.
Now, I know during this campaign I’ve said many times that the key to our future happiness is reducing the size of government, cutting taxes, and balancing the budget. But I am here to say to you now that the only real way to ensure future happiness in this life is to become baptized in a Mormon church and accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Health care, unemployment, government spending—they all pale in comparison to the word of God as written by the ancient and modern prophets.
Christ lives, my countrymen. He lives, and we are his children. Please allow me to tell you more.
Campaigning across this great nation of ours, I learned that Americans everywhere are hurt, lost, and searching for answers. In their weakness, they turn to leaders like myself in hopes of being guided through the spiritual wilderness. Well, now that my presidential campaign is essentially dead in the water, I would like to offer the following advice to all those people I met who sought my guidance: Forget about everything I said, become a Latter-day Saint, and take the time to learn more about the America’s fastest-growing religion by visiting us at our official website, Mormon.org.
Or, better yet, stop by one of our thousands of church meetinghouses worldwide, or come see one of our many fun and informative church-sponsored pageants.
My fellow Americans, Republicans and Democrats alike, have you given any serious thought to the existence of eternal life? To joining our Heavenly Father once again in a world beyond our own? If you haven’t, why not? More than anything, more even than my own protracted and evidently unsuccessful attempt to take the White House, your salvation is paramount. For it is what He wants. And it is what our great prophet Joseph Smith wants as well.
As my opponent, Barack Obama, and the ongoing 24-hour news networks continue to hammer away at my now utterly destroyed bid for higher office, I think it’s important for us as a nation to put all of that aside and focus on the Mormon church’s strong commitment to humanitarian aid and community service. Why, did you know that since 2001 the Church of Latter-day Saints has made donations of more than 300,000 wheelchairs in 101 countries? It’s a fact. This is not a burden for us, you see, but a blessing, for “when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God” (Mosiah 2:17).
People are desperate, people need help, and now that I know definitively I will never be in a position to lead the American people as their president, I ask you to help by filling out an online submission form and having a Mormon missionary come to meet you and your family at your home to spread His word. It’s so easy, and it’s the first step toward changing your life and returning to live with God.
Will you give it a chance? I promise you will not regret it if you do. Christ loves you.
Comments
(I KNOW she moved the thingie!
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
It goes for both sides, there are people dead set on their vote no matter what.
I'm liberal, but give props to Romney for at least being honest.
For every lazy liberal there are plenty of hard working selfless liberals to make up for it and make things better.
For every hard working conservative, there's a handful of white trash conservatives who will hide behind the handouts they receive, and pretend they have conservative values, while they lie, cheat, steal and pray to cover their asses.
Hilarious!
your a pragmatist, good on you. however the "my team vs their team" bullshit will not play well. He basically doubled down again last night at that bizarro press conference. He's giving approx 50% of our voting population a big fuck you.
and to the simpletons that compare this to obama's 'guns and religion' comment. go find a google machine and turn to page 2 (of that transcript-ed speech) where he says he will be visiting them on the campaign trail to listen and win them over.
MGM Grand - Jul 6, 2006
Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006
New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival - May 1, 2010
Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011
Made In America, Philly - Sep 2, 2012
EV, Houston - Nov 12-13, 2012
Dallas-November 2013
OKC-November 2013
ACL 2-October 2014
Fenway Night 1, August 2016
Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018
Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023
Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023
Austin, Night 1 September 2023
Austin, Night 2 September 2023
That's not what he said.
He said that all democrats and anyone who will vote for the president are a bunch of lazy people who only want handouts. He said that the only people who have jobs and want to work are Republicans or people who will consider voting for him.
It shows how clueless he is about America. Equating half of the whole country with a bunch of moochers and leaches and welfare bums. Saying that ANYONE who voted for the president feels the government should give them food and housing and health care.
Clearly not true. But it's also obnoxious and dismissive and shows that to him, being the president just means catering to the "rich" people who could consider voting for him. He makes it clear that he doesn't give a shit about anyone who has a lower income and thinks they're just a burden to he and his billionaire buddies.
AND it shows that as a president, he would do nothing to create jobs... he'd do nothing to help the working class and doesn't feel it's his job... his job is to make it so the richer people can get richer.
Most of the people in that ROOM pay little to no income tax and it's not secret that states with more "rich" people are usually the "Blue" states.
Which to me is always odd when I hear Republicans whining about the mega-million fund raisers that are held for the Democratic party in Hollywood, The Hamptons, New York or Seattle.
Hahahaha He's sure ending it with a nice touch! Unless there's more disaster in store...
Bachman
Cain
Trump
Santorum
Palin
Add to the list of Bat shit crazy candidates. I can't keep track of them all. For all the wackos they wanted, they had to settle for Romney, the least wacky of the bunch
Ummm...that's not what he said at all.
Take personal responsibilty for your life. Couldn't be a better quote actually.
Brilliant
Pretty damn close.
It's clear these votes are going to the candidate who is providing for them.
It also comes down to very basic ideologies too ...
some want a government who takes care of them.
Problem is we can't afford it.
The more people being provided for the more people who want that too...
fair share entitled.
As far as Obama's campaign words ...
he is a great speech giver, inspires trust and confidence.
Believing in him though at this point must rely on his record and where the country is
under his leadership.
I'm still a fence sitter someone whom it seems Romney is directing his words too....
Independent moderates...
one definition...
"A liberal believes that government can be used to alleviate social ills.
A conservative holds that individuals are responsible for their own situation, and government should not be involved.
A moderate holds an intermediate position between liberal and conservative."
LikeAnOcean...
perfectly said, non biased and insightful. :thumbup:
Not one democrat here disagrees with personal responsibility. What we dont agree with is stereotyping half the country into lazy dependent moochers when that is clearly not the case. Not only is it ignorant, it's incredibly idiotic. read David brooks or David frums article, both great take from real conservatives, not the bullshit the GOP tries to pass as conservative theses days.
My 101 grandfather, lazy fucking mooch, doesn't pay taxes and will vote democrat.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart- ... 7-percent/
I agree Cliffy, we all have personal responsibility even in the face of adversity in these economic times. I was unemployed for some time years ago and could've gotten unemployment but chose NOT to. Survived, not sure why i did that but i kept myself busy doing other things had I been working. Finally got the job I wanted without any dependency on our government and yes I am a Democrat....one who proudly didn't vote for Obama the first time but surely will come November.
Peac3
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
YEEEEEEESSSSS. Jon Stewart is quite possibly my favorite person.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/opini ... or.html?hp
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com ... he-47.html
I wouldn't mind watching it, but damned if I'm going to give more money to TWC!
I think they said it would be online for $4.99
Great stories.
— Albert Einstein
Not sure how old (mature
My grandparents came here from Italy. Had 10 kids...Not 1 graduated from HS let alone went to college. Not one of them relied on unemployment or gov't "hand outs". In fact, "back in the day" it was possible to be a drop out, get a menial job, and still make enough money to marry, raise a family, own a home, with only 1 parent working. This was 30 years ago, and I know, lived it firsthand as did most of my friends. Back then, businesses paid almost 70% of all income taxes and the top marginal rate was more than 90%. Now, everyone (even many of the "better off") have to work their backsides off, both spouses have to work, and corporations pay less than 25% of income taxes, and only the top 10% of all wage earners have seen ANY increase in their standard of living in those same aforementioned 30 years . And with a top marginal rate of 35%, the 1%ers are complaining that they pay too much of the taxes. Are there slackers? Yep. Are there "teet takers? Yep. The rich are killing the middle class (whats left of it) and killing everything that made America great.
Up until 6 mos ago I had an awesome job, made more $$$ then I ever had - as a college grad. My wife raised our 3 kids, was able to volunteer and did some side work as a way to help our income.
I lost my job, due to the economy - not work performance. I had to get rid of the house also...
I have 6 wks left of all the nest egg we had saved for 14 yrs...
The "gov't help" will be 1/6 of what I was earning monthly - not enough to support the family. I have worked every single day since I was 16 yrs old and will be 40 in Nov.
I am struggling mightily to gain re-employment...
I am no mooch and certainly not trying to be a freeloader. I am entitled to unemployment as I paid into it as did the company that "eliminated my position". yet I am fearful to try to apply as I feel as there are people walking around this planet who think I am lazy, freeloading and trying to milk the system. Hearing Romney's comments - as originally posted in the first post - made me sick to my stomach. Thanks for listening and commenting everyone, I appreciate the dialogue...
7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
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Now That My Campaign Is Over, I'd Like To Talk To You All About The Church Of Latter-Day Saints
BY MITT ROMNEY
REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
SEPTEMBER 19, 2012 | ISSUE 48•38 | MORE COMMENTARY
My fellow Americans, can I have a moment of your time?
It would appear that, following yesterday’s leaking of a video that shows me effectively writing off half the nation’s voters, we can pretty safely say my presidential campaign has come to an end. Oh, technically it may still exist, sure, but let’s be honest with each other: It’s all over. And I have fully accepted that reality.
So, with that in mind, I would like to use my few remaining weeks in the public spotlight to tell the nation all about a truly great religious organization called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
You see, folks, I speak to you now not as the Republican Party’s failed nominee for the presidency, but as an ordinary American whose life has been changed by the vision of a very special man named Joseph Smith. And I would like to take this opportunity to share with you some information about an exciting and life-changing faith that has long held a special place in my heart and in the hearts of everyone in the Romney family.
Now, I know during this campaign I’ve said many times that the key to our future happiness is reducing the size of government, cutting taxes, and balancing the budget. But I am here to say to you now that the only real way to ensure future happiness in this life is to become baptized in a Mormon church and accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Health care, unemployment, government spending—they all pale in comparison to the word of God as written by the ancient and modern prophets.
Christ lives, my countrymen. He lives, and we are his children. Please allow me to tell you more.
Campaigning across this great nation of ours, I learned that Americans everywhere are hurt, lost, and searching for answers. In their weakness, they turn to leaders like myself in hopes of being guided through the spiritual wilderness. Well, now that my presidential campaign is essentially dead in the water, I would like to offer the following advice to all those people I met who sought my guidance: Forget about everything I said, become a Latter-day Saint, and take the time to learn more about the America’s fastest-growing religion by visiting us at our official website, Mormon.org.
Or, better yet, stop by one of our thousands of church meetinghouses worldwide, or come see one of our many fun and informative church-sponsored pageants.
My fellow Americans, Republicans and Democrats alike, have you given any serious thought to the existence of eternal life? To joining our Heavenly Father once again in a world beyond our own? If you haven’t, why not? More than anything, more even than my own protracted and evidently unsuccessful attempt to take the White House, your salvation is paramount. For it is what He wants. And it is what our great prophet Joseph Smith wants as well.
As my opponent, Barack Obama, and the ongoing 24-hour news networks continue to hammer away at my now utterly destroyed bid for higher office, I think it’s important for us as a nation to put all of that aside and focus on the Mormon church’s strong commitment to humanitarian aid and community service. Why, did you know that since 2001 the Church of Latter-day Saints has made donations of more than 300,000 wheelchairs in 101 countries? It’s a fact. This is not a burden for us, you see, but a blessing, for “when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God” (Mosiah 2:17).
People are desperate, people need help, and now that I know definitively I will never be in a position to lead the American people as their president, I ask you to help by filling out an online submission form and having a Mormon missionary come to meet you and your family at your home to spread His word. It’s so easy, and it’s the first step toward changing your life and returning to live with God.
Will you give it a chance? I promise you will not regret it if you do. Christ loves you.
Thank you and may God bless you all.
Is Bill going to let John speak or is he going to constantly interrupt like he does all the time on the factor?