I make a decent wage, but as an early childhood special education teacher, I earn every penny that I make.
I just want to say that of all the teachers out there, it is the special ed teachers that are in this line of work truly for the kids. Of all the teachers I've met of my daughter's, her special ed teachers have been the best and hardest working teachers out there, who actually do put the students first and foremost as a priority rather than typical teacher perks. Thank you for what you do, Kelly!
Not true on what point? The CTU stated yesterday that money was not a sticking point...
Just asking, this article makes the strike about $ (not salary, but benefits) and about ensuring they have jobs if schools close. I never saw anywhere about the stuff you wrote about...safe, good learning environments, etc. I was just wondering your thoughts on this article and whether or not it was highlighting the top reasons of the strike as it says it is.
I think benefits has something to do with it, but I don't think that will be too difficult for them to hammer out. Both sides have already made concessions in this area. The job security point is there because CPS is threatening to close 100 schools next year and open charters to replace them. It seems that Rahm is attempting to privatize education. I think this flyer gives a good synopsis of what CTU is fighting for. http://www.ctunet.com/quest-center/rese ... ummary.pdf
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I have no problem with trying to earn yourself a good and fair contract. However, do it like adults, not like children on the play ground. BOTH SIDES!!!!
Yeah because spending thousands of dollars of your salary each year on basic supplies is funny. I have bought tissues, toilet paper, baby wipes, diapers, winter coats, pens, pencils, markers, soap, paper towels, in addition to learning materials. I don't know of too many other jobs that require you to bring your own supplies...
Since when did Kleenex or any of the items (outside of coats) you mentioned cost $1000? And why on earth are you buying winter coats?
Moreover, I assumed you "had to pay for Kleenex" for yourself - so that's why I thought it was funny. As if you were complaining because you had to buy a box of tissues.
There are lots of jobs where you have to pay for your lunch and other aspects, for example. I know of a number of jobs where you have to bring your own tissues - which is what I thought you meant. As for supplies, I've had to pay for my own markers and erasers. I pay to print out my documents. I get a stipend for gas because I travel to various collegiate institutions, but it typically doesn't cover the bill because their reimbursement rates are decades old and I pay the amount above that. That's life. It's nice to have a job.
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A lot of people in the private sector don’t ask for more money if their boss tells them to work overtime. They do it to keep their job. It sucks, but it’s a fact of life – especially in this economy. In fact, a lot of folks in the private sector would gladly take a pay cut if necessary, rather than lose their jobs - if the company needed to cut costs. Like a hurting business, our gov't is broke. Why public employees should be immune to the fact that the government is broke, our economy sucks and our student achievement (their goal) is terrible?
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Thats why the private sector gets away with robbery. The working class is afraid to stand up for themselves. Employers have them by the metaphorical balls and the above attitude is why it doesn't change. Change will only come through revolution. Most likely violent revolution. There is, i believe, a growing revolutionary class that says "the above may be a fact of YOUR life, but it cannot and will not be a fact of ours any longer".
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
I have no problem with trying to earn yourself a good and fair contract. However, do it like adults, not like children on the play ground. BOTH SIDES!!!!
Well, at least wear your seat belt...heck, sit down in the back seat.
You know, you really have to thank the local churches for stepping up. I give churches a lot of crap, but that is spectacular.
Yeah because spending thousands of dollars of your salary each year on basic supplies is funny. I have bought tissues, toilet paper, baby wipes, diapers, winter coats, pens, pencils, markers, soap, paper towels, in addition to learning materials. I don't know of too many other jobs that require you to bring your own supplies...
Since when did Kleenex or any of the items (outside of coats) you mentioned cost $1000? And why on earth are you buying winter coats?
Moreover, I assumed you "had to pay for Kleenex" for yourself - so that's why I thought it was funny. As if you were complaining because you had to buy a box of tissues.
There are lots of jobs where you have to pay for your lunch and other aspects, for example. I know of a number of jobs where you have to bring your own tissues - which is what I thought you meant. As for supplies, I've had to pay for my own markers and erasers. I pay to print out my documents. I get a stipend for gas because I travel to various collegiate institutions, but it typically doesn't cover the bill because their reimbursement rates are decades old and I pay the amount above that. That's life. It's nice to have a job.
Teaching materials are not cheap, especially at the pre-k level. Good teachers bring in materials for hands-on, novel lessons in every grade level. I have to supply myself and my entire class with these items and more. I work in high-poverty area, and many of the students do not come to school with proper clothing. Do I have to provide them with coats or shoes? No, but as a decent human being with some means, I cannot see them go without these basic necessities.
I am happy to have a job and want to do it. I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
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I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
how does striking help teh student
Yeah, I agree. Unions are by far, NOT for the students.
Not true on what point? The CTU stated yesterday that money was not a sticking point...
Just asking, this article makes the strike about $ (not salary, but benefits) and about ensuring they have jobs if schools close. I never saw anywhere about the stuff you wrote about...safe, good learning environments, etc. I was just wondering your thoughts on this article and whether or not it was highlighting the top reasons of the strike as it says it is.
I think benefits has something to do with it, but I don't think that will be too difficult for them to hammer out. Both sides have already made concessions in this area. The job security point is there because CPS is threatening to close 100 schools next year and open charters to replace them. It seems that Rahm is attempting to privatize education. I think this flyer gives a good synopsis of what CTU is fighting for. http://www.ctunet.com/quest-center/rese ... ummary.pdf
Not sure I know enough to comment on this, but I have some issues with 3, 4, 10 and a little of 6.
Is it the schools place to have social workers, psychologists, etc? I don't know. I don't think it is really. Unless you are going to use the funding from the other areas where social work is provided.
I also think that having #9 (partnering with parents) so far down the list shows that the teachers union is not on the right path. Again, my opinion, but should easily be #1 every time education is talked.
Since when did Kleenex or any of the items (outside of coats) you mentioned cost $1000? And why on earth are you buying winter coats?
Moreover, I assumed you "had to pay for Kleenex" for yourself - so that's why I thought it was funny. As if you were complaining because you had to buy a box of tissues.
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One box of tissue doesn't cost a 1000 dollars. Do you have any idea how much tissue i've gone through already this school year? I can speak for no one else, but i know kids show up to school where i teach in the middle of winter, sub zero temperature with no coats hats gloves or even socks! Thats why. If its monday they may not have eaten since Friday's school lunch. Someone they know may have been shot over the weekend. Of course its MY fault if they don't pass some fuckin' test.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Yeah because spending thousands of dollars of your salary each year on basic supplies is funny. I have bought tissues, toilet paper, baby wipes, diapers, winter coats, pens, pencils, markers, soap, paper towels, in addition to learning materials. I don't know of too many other jobs that require you to bring your own supplies...
Since when did Kleenex or any of the items (outside of coats) you mentioned cost $1000? And why on earth are you buying winter coats?
Moreover, I assumed you "had to pay for Kleenex" for yourself - so that's why I thought it was funny. As if you were complaining because you had to buy a box of tissues.
There are lots of jobs where you have to pay for your lunch and other aspects, for example. I know of a number of jobs where you have to bring your own tissues - which is what I thought you meant. As for supplies, I've had to pay for my own markers and erasers. I pay to print out my documents. I get a stipend for gas because I travel to various collegiate institutions, but it typically doesn't cover the bill because their reimbursement rates are decades old and I pay the amount above that. That's life. It's nice to have a job.
Teaching materials are not cheap, especially at the pre-k level. Good teachers bring in materials for hands-on, novel lessons in every grade level. I have to supply myself and my entire class with these items and more. I work in high-poverty area, and many of the students do not come to school with proper clothing. Do I have to provide them with coats or shoes? No, but as a decent human being with some means, I cannot see them go without these basic necessities.
I am happy to have a job and want to do it. I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
Kelly311 No disrespect with this comment, but if it really is about the kids........
Come on over to my house and talk to my 6 year old. She looks confused as all hell. She saw the picket line outside her school and I'm pretty sure she's going to be frightened to go back in whenever this is over. She's barely said a word all day. We live 8 houses from our school, it used to be a place she felt comfortable, its our neighborhood park.........She saw her teachers, and the faces she trusts and looks for everyday outside SCREAMING at every car that drove by.....
My wife and I both teach special education so I know how much goes into it. I teach at the high school level, so I don't have to spend a ton of my own cash. My wife, on the other hand teaches kindergarten, and spends quite a bit of money out of pocket each year for classroom supplies. Any time you walk into an elementary classroom and see all the toys, books, videos, games, decorations, etc., they've typically all been paid for out of the teacher's pocket. Those are things that add up to a lot of money over the years.
To be expected to pay for all the students' supplies on top of that is kind of ridiculous in my opinion. Oh, and I guarantee the reason the previous poster was purchasing winter coats was because a student was coming to school without one and the parents couldn't/wouldn't buy one for the child. Sure, it's not the teacher's responsibility, but sometimes you go above and beyond because you love the kids.
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I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
how does striking help teh student
Yeah, I agree. Unions are by far, NOT for the students.
Thats why their called LABOR unions. Don't get me wrong my teacher's union is useless. i'm not even a member.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Teaching materials are not cheap, especially at the pre-k level. Good teachers bring in materials for hands-on, novel lessons in every grade level. I have to supply myself and my entire class with these items and more. I work in high-poverty area, and many of the students do not come to school with proper clothing. Do I have to provide them with coats or shoes? No, but as a decent human being with some means, I cannot see them go without these basic necessities.
I am happy to have a job and want to do it. I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
I believe this is very true. However, just know that in every aspect of life, resources are divided and no one gets all the resources they believe they need to do their jobs.
I think for teachers it has gone pretty extreme, however.
I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
how does striking help teh student
Striking is the only way we are going to get the things that the students need. My students, in particular, need their IEPs to be honored, as they are legal documents. Yet CPS continues to violate special education laws regarding least restrictive environment, class size, access to paraprofessional support, and receiving clinical minutes. If teachers complain, they often get nowhere or get fired.
If these types of things are not in a contract, they will not be enforced. I can only speak for myself, but I could care less about benefits, salary bumps, etc.
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I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
how does striking help teh student
Striking is the only way we are going to get the things that the students need. My students, in particular, need their IEPs to be honored, as they are legal documents. Yet CPS continues to violate special education laws regarding least restrictive environment, class size, access to paraprofessional support, and receiving clinical minutes. If teachers complain, they often get nowhere or get fired.
If these types of things are not in a contract, they will not be enforced. I can only speak for myself, but I could care less about benefits, salary bumps, etc.
Sure, it's not the teacher's responsibility, but sometimes you go above and beyond because you love the kids.
That is true and and noble thing to do. But don't come back and use it as an argument for a higher salary then though....it kinda looks like " Hey look at this nice thing I did, now pay me back!!!!"
Kelly311 No disrespect with this comment, but if it really is about the kids........
Come on over to my house and talk to my 6 year old. She looks confused as all hell. She saw the picket line outside her school and I'm pretty sure she's going to be frightened to go back in whenever this is over. She's barely said a word all day. We live 8 houses from our school, it used to be a place she felt comfortable, its our neighborhood park.........She saw her teachers, and the faces she trusts and looks for everyday outside SCREAMING at every car that drove by.....
Is it really for the kids?[/quote]
My school was one of the 144 babysitting schools. All of our staff was nothing but respectful. There was no screaming or yelling. We spoke to people who asked questions and marched around the building.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with money or benefits.
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I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
how does striking help teh student
Striking is the only way we are going to get the things that the students need. My students, in particular, need their IEPs to be honored, as they are legal documents. Yet CPS continues to violate special education laws regarding least restrictive environment, class size, access to paraprofessional support, and receiving clinical minutes. If teachers complain, they often get nowhere or get fired.
If these types of things are not in a contract, they will not be enforced. I can only speak for myself, but I could care less about benefits, salary bumps, etc.
It's ridiculous for any teacher to live in fear of speaking up about IEP law violations. Those are legal documents that are in place to make sure that the special education students receive the services and supports they need. The only reason I really support tenure is because of this issue. Speaking up against things that are being done incorrectly or illegally should never be cause for termination/demotion, but I know it happens quite frequently to teachers who are not yet tenured. That's why I'm keeping my mouth shut for the most part until my tenure begins in 2014.
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Sure, it's not the teacher's responsibility, but sometimes you go above and beyond because you love the kids.
That is true and and noble thing to do. But don't come back and use it as an argument for a higher salary then though....it kinda looks like " Hey look at this nice thing I did, now pay me back!!!!"
Good point. I think she was just saying that she does what is expected and much more. I don't think she was asking to be reimbursed for the cost of the coats.
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Kelly311 No disrespect with this comment, but if it really is about the kids........
Come on over to my house and talk to my 6 year old. She looks confused as all hell. She saw the picket line outside her school and I'm pretty sure she's going to be frightened to go back in whenever this is over. She's barely said a word all day. We live 8 houses from our school, it used to be a place she felt comfortable, its our neighborhood park.........She saw her teachers, and the faces she trusts and looks for everyday outside SCREAMING at every car that drove by.....
Is it really for the kids?
My school was one of the 144 babysitting schools. All of our staff was nothing but respectful. There was no screaming or yelling. We spoke to people who asked questions and marched around the building.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with money or benefits.[/quote]
No one had a noisemaker, or a megaphone or signs that said "honk for teachers", you all marched in silence?
We are talking about young children here, this strike is very confusing and very disturbing for them and its not necessary.
My school was one of the 144 babysitting schools. All of our staff was nothing but respectful. There was no screaming or yelling. We spoke to people who asked questions and marched around the building.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with money or benefits.[/quote]
No one had a noisemaker, or a megaphone or signs that said "honk for teachers", you all marched in silence?
We are talking about young children here, this strike is very confusing and very disturbing for them and its not necessary.[/quote]
No noisemakers, megaphones, yelling...just waving to cars and pedestrians.
Not necessary? I respect your opinion, but disagree. I'm not really sure why any student would be disturbed by this. I have heard many parents explaining the situation to their children. As a teacher, it is not my place to do so.
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Striking is the only way we are going to get the things that the students need. My students, in particular, need their IEPs to be honored, as they are legal documents. Yet CPS continues to violate special education laws regarding least restrictive environment, class size, access to paraprofessional support, and receiving clinical minutes. If teachers complain, they often get nowhere or get fired.
If these types of things are not in a contract, they will not be enforced. I can only speak for myself, but I could care less about benefits, salary bumps, etc.
It's ridiculous for any teacher to live in fear of speaking up about IEP law violations. Those are legal documents that are in place to make sure that the special education students receive the services and supports they need. The only reason I really support tenure is because of this issue. Speaking up against things that are being done incorrectly or illegally should never be cause for termination/demotion, but I know it happens quite frequently to teachers who are not yet tenured. That's why I'm keeping my mouth shut for the most part until my tenure begins in 2014.
While this is the right thing to do, I've talked to many parents where school districts don't know the IEP laws and have set limits for students and parents, wrongfully so. It truly is up to parents to do their homework about IEP laws because it is not first and foremost on the minds of teachers. No disrespect or anything, but us parents are the number one advocates for our kids, and expecting the teachers to have the students' backs isn't really all that realistic. I just find it really depressing that as a society, we let money issues get in the way of educating our kids. And that's really what this strike is about.
No noisemakers, megaphones, yelling...just waving to cars and pedestrians.
Not necessary? I respect your opinion, but disagree. I'm not really sure why any student would be disturbed by this. I have heard many parents explaining the situation to their children. As a teacher, it is not my place to do so.[/quote]
Not sure why this would be disturbing? Seriously?
You and my child just had 3 months off. Back to school for 4 days and then off again with no return planned. I can't even tell my daughter when school is going to be back on. Her teachers are outside all wearing T-shirts that were obviously made weeks ago. I would hope to god, that a qualified CPS teacher would fully understand why this may be disturbing to a 6 year old. You may think the parents are all on your side, but please use some sense, your CTU argument is losing on my street very, VERY rapidly.
I am happy to have a job and want to do it. I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
How exactly is going on strike making sure that all students succeed?
I am happy to have a job and want to do it. I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
How exactly is going on strike making sure that all students succeed?
Kinda doesn't add up.
Yes please do tell. Make me a list of what you get and what my daughter gets out of this strike please.
That is true and and noble thing to do. But don't come back and use it as an argument for a higher salary then though....it kinda looks like " Hey look at this nice thing I did, now pay me back!!!!"
This b.s. pisses me off. Sorry, but it does. So teachers are supposed to sacrifice everything and live the life of a buddhist monk? I have a family also. Yes, i'm in it for the kids, but i can't afford to work for free. Honestly, i buy little more than i have to. i refuse to largely because of attitudes like above. For some reason i'm just expected to and i better not whine about my pitiful salary.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Of course its MY fault if they don't pass some fuckin' test.
If that kid doesn't pass a test - it's their fault. If the class at large isn't learning anything - it's your fault. Your being paid to do "something". Every single job gets monitored for performance. Teachers should too, particularly when our tax money is being used to pay them $70K+ (before benefits) on average with 2 months vacation.
Public school teachers shouldn't be making more than college professors. That's about it.
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I just want to say that of all the teachers out there, it is the special ed teachers that are in this line of work truly for the kids. Of all the teachers I've met of my daughter's, her special ed teachers have been the best and hardest working teachers out there, who actually do put the students first and foremost as a priority rather than typical teacher perks. Thank you for what you do, Kelly!
I think benefits has something to do with it, but I don't think that will be too difficult for them to hammer out. Both sides have already made concessions in this area. The job security point is there because CPS is threatening to close 100 schools next year and open charters to replace them. It seems that Rahm is attempting to privatize education. I think this flyer gives a good synopsis of what CTU is fighting for. http://www.ctunet.com/quest-center/rese ... ummary.pdf
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I have no problem with trying to earn yourself a good and fair contract. However, do it like adults, not like children on the play ground. BOTH SIDES!!!!
Since when did Kleenex or any of the items (outside of coats) you mentioned cost $1000? And why on earth are you buying winter coats?
Moreover, I assumed you "had to pay for Kleenex" for yourself - so that's why I thought it was funny. As if you were complaining because you had to buy a box of tissues.
There are lots of jobs where you have to pay for your lunch and other aspects, for example. I know of a number of jobs where you have to bring your own tissues - which is what I thought you meant. As for supplies, I've had to pay for my own markers and erasers. I pay to print out my documents. I get a stipend for gas because I travel to various collegiate institutions, but it typically doesn't cover the bill because their reimbursement rates are decades old and I pay the amount above that. That's life. It's nice to have a job.
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Thats why the private sector gets away with robbery. The working class is afraid to stand up for themselves. Employers have them by the metaphorical balls and the above attitude is why it doesn't change. Change will only come through revolution. Most likely violent revolution. There is, i believe, a growing revolutionary class that says "the above may be a fact of YOUR life, but it cannot and will not be a fact of ours any longer".
Well, at least wear your seat belt...heck, sit down in the back seat.
You know, you really have to thank the local churches for stepping up. I give churches a lot of crap, but that is spectacular.
Teaching materials are not cheap, especially at the pre-k level. Good teachers bring in materials for hands-on, novel lessons in every grade level. I have to supply myself and my entire class with these items and more. I work in high-poverty area, and many of the students do not come to school with proper clothing. Do I have to provide them with coats or shoes? No, but as a decent human being with some means, I cannot see them go without these basic necessities.
I am happy to have a job and want to do it. I have no desire to be on strike. While I may not agree with every decision my union makes, ultimately I know I must do what is necessary to ensure that all students succeed.
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how does striking help teh student
Yeah, I agree. Unions are by far, NOT for the students.
Not sure I know enough to comment on this, but I have some issues with 3, 4, 10 and a little of 6.
Is it the schools place to have social workers, psychologists, etc? I don't know. I don't think it is really. Unless you are going to use the funding from the other areas where social work is provided.
I also think that having #9 (partnering with parents) so far down the list shows that the teachers union is not on the right path. Again, my opinion, but should easily be #1 every time education is talked.
Kelly311 No disrespect with this comment, but if it really is about the kids........
Come on over to my house and talk to my 6 year old. She looks confused as all hell. She saw the picket line outside her school and I'm pretty sure she's going to be frightened to go back in whenever this is over. She's barely said a word all day. We live 8 houses from our school, it used to be a place she felt comfortable, its our neighborhood park.........She saw her teachers, and the faces she trusts and looks for everyday outside SCREAMING at every car that drove by.....
Is it really for the kids?
To be expected to pay for all the students' supplies on top of that is kind of ridiculous in my opinion. Oh, and I guarantee the reason the previous poster was purchasing winter coats was because a student was coming to school without one and the parents couldn't/wouldn't buy one for the child. Sure, it's not the teacher's responsibility, but sometimes you go above and beyond because you love the kids.
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I believe this is very true. However, just know that in every aspect of life, resources are divided and no one gets all the resources they believe they need to do their jobs.
I think for teachers it has gone pretty extreme, however.
Striking is the only way we are going to get the things that the students need. My students, in particular, need their IEPs to be honored, as they are legal documents. Yet CPS continues to violate special education laws regarding least restrictive environment, class size, access to paraprofessional support, and receiving clinical minutes. If teachers complain, they often get nowhere or get fired.
If these types of things are not in a contract, they will not be enforced. I can only speak for myself, but I could care less about benefits, salary bumps, etc.
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What will my child get from this strike?......
That is true and and noble thing to do. But don't come back and use it as an argument for a higher salary then though....it kinda looks like " Hey look at this nice thing I did, now pay me back!!!!"
Come on over to my house and talk to my 6 year old. She looks confused as all hell. She saw the picket line outside her school and I'm pretty sure she's going to be frightened to go back in whenever this is over. She's barely said a word all day. We live 8 houses from our school, it used to be a place she felt comfortable, its our neighborhood park.........She saw her teachers, and the faces she trusts and looks for everyday outside SCREAMING at every car that drove by.....
Is it really for the kids?[/quote]
My school was one of the 144 babysitting schools. All of our staff was nothing but respectful. There was no screaming or yelling. We spoke to people who asked questions and marched around the building.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with money or benefits.
8-23-09 Chicago---8-24-09 Chicago---6-28-11 Chicago (EV)---9-3-11 Alpine---9-4-11 Alpine
It's ridiculous for any teacher to live in fear of speaking up about IEP law violations. Those are legal documents that are in place to make sure that the special education students receive the services and supports they need. The only reason I really support tenure is because of this issue. Speaking up against things that are being done incorrectly or illegally should never be cause for termination/demotion, but I know it happens quite frequently to teachers who are not yet tenured. That's why I'm keeping my mouth shut for the most part until my tenure begins in 2014.
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My school was one of the 144 babysitting schools. All of our staff was nothing but respectful. There was no screaming or yelling. We spoke to people who asked questions and marched around the building.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with money or benefits.[/quote]
No one had a noisemaker, or a megaphone or signs that said "honk for teachers", you all marched in silence?
We are talking about young children here, this strike is very confusing and very disturbing for them and its not necessary.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with money or benefits.[/quote]
No one had a noisemaker, or a megaphone or signs that said "honk for teachers", you all marched in silence?
We are talking about young children here, this strike is very confusing and very disturbing for them and its not necessary.[/quote]
No noisemakers, megaphones, yelling...just waving to cars and pedestrians.
Not necessary? I respect your opinion, but disagree. I'm not really sure why any student would be disturbed by this. I have heard many parents explaining the situation to their children. As a teacher, it is not my place to do so.
8-23-09 Chicago---8-24-09 Chicago---6-28-11 Chicago (EV)---9-3-11 Alpine---9-4-11 Alpine
While this is the right thing to do, I've talked to many parents where school districts don't know the IEP laws and have set limits for students and parents, wrongfully so. It truly is up to parents to do their homework about IEP laws because it is not first and foremost on the minds of teachers. No disrespect or anything, but us parents are the number one advocates for our kids, and expecting the teachers to have the students' backs isn't really all that realistic. I just find it really depressing that as a society, we let money issues get in the way of educating our kids. And that's really what this strike is about.
Not necessary? I respect your opinion, but disagree. I'm not really sure why any student would be disturbed by this. I have heard many parents explaining the situation to their children. As a teacher, it is not my place to do so.[/quote]
Not sure why this would be disturbing? Seriously?
You and my child just had 3 months off. Back to school for 4 days and then off again with no return planned. I can't even tell my daughter when school is going to be back on. Her teachers are outside all wearing T-shirts that were obviously made weeks ago. I would hope to god, that a qualified CPS teacher would fully understand why this may be disturbing to a 6 year old. You may think the parents are all on your side, but please use some sense, your CTU argument is losing on my street very, VERY rapidly.
How exactly is going on strike making sure that all students succeed?
Kinda doesn't add up.
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Yes please do tell. Make me a list of what you get and what my daughter gets out of this strike please.
This b.s. pisses me off. Sorry, but it does. So teachers are supposed to sacrifice everything and live the life of a buddhist monk? I have a family also. Yes, i'm in it for the kids, but i can't afford to work for free. Honestly, i buy little more than i have to. i refuse to largely because of attitudes like above. For some reason i'm just expected to and i better not whine about my pitiful salary.
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If that kid doesn't pass a test - it's their fault. If the class at large isn't learning anything - it's your fault. Your being paid to do "something". Every single job gets monitored for performance. Teachers should too, particularly when our tax money is being used to pay them $70K+ (before benefits) on average with 2 months vacation.
Public school teachers shouldn't be making more than college professors. That's about it.
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