Chicago Public School Teachers on Strike...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

81 wrote:

i think only people with kids should pay for schools/teachers/admins/pensions

Incredibly short-sighted line of thinking. Ridiculous to be honest.

So... in the same vein... only those that contributed to an education fund can access the buildings being designed by architects and engineers... or visit doctors... or...?

Moronic.

But we either pay or are being paid to be in those buildings or access those services.

But you're not a stakeholder. You have made no investment in the future of your country and society. You are promoting something that would make 'leeches' of people: "People. Go reproduce. Raise your children at great expense so that I might benefit greatly when they come of the age to offer me a service!"

If not moronic... then self-serving. Which is worse?

DS1119

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

But we either pay or are being paid to be in those buildings or access those services.

But you're not a stakeholder. You have made no investment in the future of your country and society. You are promoting something that would make 'leeches' of people: "People. Go reproduce. Raise your children at great expense and none to me so that I might benefit greatly when they come of the age to offer me a service!"

If not moronic... then self-serving. Which is worse?[/quote]


It's worked for colleges in this country for pretty much....ever.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Holy crap do I need tutorial on using this site.

You can only imbed 3 quotes within each other.

Okay. So wtf? How do I get around that?

Further... how do I quote the 'exact' portion of statement that I wish to respond to?

Someone... please... help a brother out!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

But we either pay or are being paid to be in those buildings or access those services.

But you're not a stakeholder. You have made no investment in the future of your country and society. You are promoting something that would make 'leeches' of people: "People. Go reproduce. Raise your children at great expense and none to me so that I might benefit greatly when they come of the age to offer me a service!"

If not moronic... then self-serving. Which is worse?

It's worked for colleges in this country for pretty much....ever.[/quote]

LOL! You need the same tutorial. This response is messed!

81

just for fun....pulled out the 'ol tax bill

lots of cash being sent to the school system.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

81 wrote:

just for fun....pulled out the 'ol tax bill

lots of cash being sent to the school system.

So what are you saying? The school system is a shitty investment? Come on man... get serious.

I said in an earlier post: instead of expecting 5-6 years of university to certify... why don't you change certification to a 2 year program at any old community college/ drop wages significantly/ and see how that works? It's safe to say many people would become disinterested in pursuing such a career- you wouldn't exactly be motivating people to jump right into teaching. But think of the upside- you could keep more of those tax dollars you spend on the future of your nation for yourself. More six packs, more Pearl Jam stickers, more bullets for your guns!

Good call. Way to think of the bigger picture!

81

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

81 wrote:

just for fun....pulled out the 'ol tax bill

lots of cash being sent to the school system.

So what are you saying? The school system is a shitty investment? Come on man... get serious.

I said in an earlier post: instead of expecting 5-6 years of university to certify... why don't you change certification to a 2 year program at any old community college/ drop wages significantly/ and see how that works? It's safe to say many people would become disinterested in pursuing such a career- you wouldn't exactly be motivating people to jump right into teaching. But think of the upside- you could keep more of those tax dollars you spend on the future of your nation for yourself. More six packs, more Pearl Jam stickers, more bullets for your guns!

Good call. Way to think of the bigger picture!

no, but i'm paying way to much for it

Thirty Bills Unpaid

81 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

81 wrote:

just for fun....pulled out the 'ol tax bill

lots of cash being sent to the school system.

So what are you saying? The school system is a shitty investment? Come on man... get serious.

I said in an earlier post: instead of expecting 5-6 years of university to certify... why don't you change certification to a 2 year program at any old community college/ drop wages significantly/ and see how that works? It's safe to say many people would become disinterested in pursuing such a career- you wouldn't exactly be motivating people to jump right into teaching. But think of the upside- you could keep more of those tax dollars you spend on the future of your nation for yourself. More six packs, more Pearl Jam stickers, more bullets for your guns!

Good call. Way to think of the bigger picture!

no, but i'm paying way to much for it

And I'm paying a ton for medical. Should I adopt the attitude, "Hey, we have no sick kids or people in our family. Make the sick people pay for their own bills. Why should I pay?"

No. I make enough. I'd obviously like to have a bunch more, but I have enough. I'm willing to contribute my share for the betterment of society.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

81 wrote:

just for fun....pulled out the 'ol tax bill

lots of cash being sent to the school system.

Did you see what those fucking asshat striking teachers did downtown today?

So let me get this straight...

These so called educators went on strike today, forcing parents to either pay for some type of care, or miss work all together. Right?

THEN they educators went downtown and marched on the fucking streets, basically shutting down the loop, and bringing the public transit service to a shutdown for HOURS. Right?
So the parents who were actually able to make it to work this morning downtown, couldnt get home to pick up there children, because the asshole teachers decided to turn The Loop into total chaos. Right?

I would have had the Fire department hose them down. then I would have handcuffed the assholes and charged them with jaywalking, loitering, causing a public disturbance, and any fucking thing else I could have charged them with.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Who paid for the 20,000 ridiculous red shirts those educators were wearing today?
Who paid for the 20,000 picket signs those educators had on their hands?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

81 wrote:

just for fun....pulled out the 'ol tax bill

lots of cash being sent to the school system.

Did you see what those fucking asshat striking teachers did downtown today?

So let me get this straight...

These so called educators went on strike today, forcing parents to either pay for some type of care, or miss work all together. Right?

THEN they educators went downtown and marched on the fucking streets, basically shutting down the loop, and bringing the public transit service to a shutdown for HOURS. Right?
So the parents who were actually able to make it to work this morning downtown, couldnt get home to pick up there children, because the asshole teachers decided to turn The Loop into total chaos. Right?

I would have had the Fire department hose them down. then I would have handcuffed the assholes and charged them with jaywalking, loitering, causing a public disturbance, and any fucking thing else I could have charged them with.

Yah. Those teachers just dug picketing. They were out to annoy everyone.

Speedy... you speak from quite the perch. What do you do for a living?

peacefrompaul

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Who paid for the 20,000 ridiculous red shirts those educators were wearing today?
Who paid for the 20,000 picket signs those educators had on their hands?

Unions

Unions

81

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

THEN they educators went downtown and marched on the fucking streets, basically shutting down the loop, and bringing the public transit service to a shutdown for HOURS. Right?
So the parents who were actually able to make it to work this morning downtown, couldnt get home to pick up there children, because the asshole teachers decided to turn The Loop into total chaos. Right?

woman works in the loop...she called from the chaos....said the teachers were blocking up everything for the commutters, i told her to start elbowing her way thru. she ended up having to run to catch her train. :fp:

sorry, but i just can't get behind this strike, i'm not buying anything this union is selling.

81

time to bring in the replacement teachers.

81

did they have a permit to march? either way, they should have been herded back to the schools.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

81 wrote:

did they have a permit to march? either way, they should have been herded back to the schools.

How dare they bring the Loop to a stand-still like they did?
Where the fuck do they get off?
I would file criminal charges against them.
Re-Routing the Public Transportation because of these educators?
Closing down the Loop?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

81 wrote:

at least get it right you blithering idiot

In all honesty..
I truly wanted to know who paid for the pretty red shirts.

The teachers themselves?
The union?
Combination of both?
You?
Me?

It was an honest question.

peacefrompaul

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

81 wrote:

at least get it right you blithering idiot

In all honesty..
I truly wanted to know who paid for the pretty red shirts.

The teachers themselves?
The union?
Combination of both?
You?
Me?

It was an honest question.

Someone there must know.

It must be the union.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Oh. And you haven't insulted multiple people on this board with your hate-filled, teacher bashing posts? You asked a really dumb question on a forum that expects a little more from its contributors. Sorry I wasn't a little more sensitive with my response.

I havent personally insulted anyone here my friend.
But you have.

Well, I've been called much worse without having my feelings hurt. Earlier you were talking pretty tough with the 'I better not be driving by any of those picketing idiots or they'll be taking me away in cuffs' comment. Didn't think much of my response to be honest- I was kind of coming down to your level- you had been spouting off a ton of hate-filled, non-objective stuff. It got to be a little much for me.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

peacefrompaul wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

81 wrote:

at least get it right you blithering idiot

In all honesty..
I truly wanted to know who paid for the pretty red shirts.

The teachers themselves?
The union?
Combination of both?
You?
Me?

It was an honest question.

Someone there must know.

It must be the union.

Actually I was told...

Their union dues you fricken idiot!

So until someone tells me different...
I believe it was paid by their union dues, you fricken idiot!!!