99 Problems....PJ w/Jay-Z

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  • boyo79boyo79 Posts: 6,525
    moses-i wrote:
    The Akkus wrote:

    You should wikipedia the meaning behind the song. You may be surprised.

    Although the song is allegedly about being stopped by cops, the fact that he clearly says "if you're having GIRL problems...i got 99 problems but the BITCH ain't one" clearly suggests he's talking about a woman not a female dog. No matter what the verses are about, the hook is what everyone sings/remembers and most people assume based on that alone that the song is about women. Was this an accident? I think not. And anyway I don't think that the song is any better if it's just another song where Jay-Z glorifies drug dealing. The line where he basically accuses the cops of racial profiling kills me-he's a DRUG DEALER that's why he's getting pulled over.

    Before someone gets on my case about not listening to hip hop and thus not "getting it", I do listen to hip hop and I own this particular record. I just have this dilemma with Jay-Z...in my opinion once a drug dealer always a drug dealer. And don't give me the old "he had to do what he had to do to survive" line. I'm sure he HAD to shoot his older brother when he was 17.

    classy.

    Is it just drug dealers you have a problem with? Or users as well?
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  • One of my 99 problems is that Eddie is not singing on this!
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  • This was a great collaboration for the so many reasons. This is what PJ has been doing for years...they are just having more fun with it these days. You get mad when Dennis Rodman comes out on stage because you hate basketball? You're not a Ben Harper fan, so keep him away when PJ is in town? Don't even get me started on PJ20 and it's guest stage appearances...

    This was the MADE IN AMERICA festival and if I'm not mistaken, PJ was the one who signed on to a Jay-Z (You know...the guy who says "Bitches and Hoes" a lot) festival ticket. Didn't hear a whole lot of bitching back then...we were just happy to see another show on U.S. soil. Just because they shared the stage for 3 minutes in a little cross culture fun doesn't mean the Stone is all of the sudden a woman hater and a drug dealer. Music genre is music genre, but why keep everything so separate? I heard the crowd singing along. It's music...have some fun with it!!
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  • dunkman wrote:
    i'm surprised the band do a song that involves niggas, hoes, bitches and pussy

    I mean Stone gets upset about salmon not being able to swim or something, but he plays on a song that calls women pussies/hoes?
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,317
    Does anyone have a good crisp audio clip of the 99 Problems / W.M.A. jam from last night?

    If so holla!!! :P
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    moses-i wrote:
    The Akkus wrote:

    You should wikipedia the meaning behind the song. You may be surprised.

    matter what the verses are about, the hook is what everyone sings/remembers and most people assume based on that alone that the song is about women. Was this an accident? I think not. And anyway I don't think that the song is any better if it's just another song where Jay-Z glorifies drug dealing. The line where he basically accuses the cops of racial profiling kills me-he's a DRUG DEALER that's why he's getting pulled over.

    Before someone gets on my case about not listening to hip hop and thus not "getting it", I do listen to hip hop and I own this particular record. I just have this dilemma with Jay-Z...in my opinion once a drug dealer always a drug dealer. And don't give me the old "he had to do what he had to do to survive" line. I'm sure he HAD to shoot his older brother when he was 17.

    classy.

    Maybe think this through next time... Here is what you said

    "Although the song is allegedly about being stopped by cops, the fact that he clearly says "if you're having GIRL problems...i got 99 problems but the BITCH ain't one" clearly suggests he's talking about a woman not a female dog. "

    You wrote if your having girl problems... The lyrics you left out say "I feel bad for you son" which goes to show that the lyrics are coming from the cops point of view.

    The lyrics are from the cops perspective, telling the person stopped by the police, that - if your having girl trouble I feel bad for you son, you've got 99 problems (as in w the police) but a bitch ain't one.

    He also says "A" bitch not "the" bitch. Changes the meaning a lot.

    I'll say what's classy, is you writing .., to omit the lyrics that prove its not about a girl but a cop telling The guy that girl problems aren't one of his 99 problems.

    Now the fact that pj played one part of one song with jay z bothers me zero. I'm really glad WMA was played. The rest of the show looked great!
  • I'm not a big hip-hop fan, I'm dislike Jay Z's music for the most part, and I fucking LOVED this. I had a smile from ear to ear the whole time.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,397
    I thought it was amazing. It was a cool ass collaboration. The band and jay z sounded tight.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • I don't know whether Jay-Z is entirely respectful of women but at least one level of meaning of that song is about exactly what WMA is about, so what better way to end the festival?

    The collaboration rocked!
  • I'm sure you all cry when you hear Ed sing "Who set the standard, born to be rich? Such fine examples, skinny little bitch" Or when he told a girl she had mosquito bite tits in Hershey?

    Seriously some of you need to just shut up and enjoy the music. This sounds fucking great and was all of 3 minutes long in a 2 hour show.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,148
    ladydocNYC wrote:
    I don't know whether Jay-Z is entirely respectful of women but at least one level of meaning of that song is about exactly what WMA is about, so what better way to end the festival?

    The collaboration rocked!

    I wonder who originally suggested this :?
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  • Whatever. I wish I could have been there more than anything, it's weird how narrow minded people are being about it. Anyway, Rolling Stone has a couple great pics on the website right now: 8-)

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictu ... ne-0699160

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictu ... am-0209353
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  • moses-i wrote:
    The Akkus wrote:

    You should wikipedia the meaning behind the song. You may be surprised.

    Although the song is allegedly about being stopped by cops, the fact that he clearly says "if you're having GIRL problems...i got 99 problems but the BITCH ain't one" clearly suggests he's talking about a woman not a female dog. No matter what the verses are about, the hook is what everyone sings/remembers and most people assume based on that alone that the song is about women. Was this an accident? I think not. And anyway I don't think that the song is any better if it's just another song where Jay-Z glorifies drug dealing. The line where he basically accuses the cops of racial profiling kills me-he's a DRUG DEALER that's why he's getting pulled over.

    Before someone gets on my case about not listening to hip hop and thus not "getting it", I do listen to hip hop and I own this particular record. I just have this dilemma with Jay-Z...in my opinion once a drug dealer always a drug dealer. And don't give me the old "he had to do what he had to do to survive" line. I'm sure he HAD to shoot his older brother when he was 17.

    classy.

    LOL. You have to be kidding me.

    First of all, if you are so offended by Jay Z, why would you even attend HIS festival?

    Secondly - and more importantly - this song is just art. There is no need to take it for anything more than that. You can get on your pedestal and judge a TEENAGED Shawn Carter all you want, (while ignoring, for example, his concerts at MSG, where 100% of the proceeds went to families of firefighters who died on 9/11), but what the hell does that have to do with PJ simply performing a fun, cool song with him? I suppose you'd also be offended if Eddie watched The Godfather and it's glamorization of violence and organized crime.

    Give me a break.


    For the record, this performance kicked ASS. Dope as hell.
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  • Whatever. I wish I could have been there more than anything, it's weird how narrow minded people are being about it. Anyway, Rolling Stone has a couple great pics on the website right now: 8-)

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictu ... ne-0699160

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictu ... am-0209353

    And we have video! https://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/jay-z ... 9-problems
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  • When you're done over-analyzing the '99-problems' lyrics, you might want to check out the lyrics to "Real Thing".
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  • Whatever. I wish I could have been there more than anything, it's weird how narrow minded people are being about it. Anyway, Rolling Stone has a couple great pics on the website right now: 8-)

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictu ... ne-0699160

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictu ... am-0209353

    And we have video! https://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/jay-z ... 9-problems

    Here's a farther away video but I like it cause it seems to have been filmed from right around where I was.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZTs_HSNZwg
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,890
    Wow, some people are so serious today! :lol:

    I think it's cool they did this, and it's a lot of fun. :) Interesting way to collaborate with the other headliner.
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  • That was hilarious... I still hate Jay-Z's material...

    It's a big meh for me... whatever. :lol:
  • KartsKarts Posts: 120
    Finally found full video of WMA/99 Problems:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7VsFUAD538
  • Mamasan BrenMamasan Bren Posts: 960
    edited September 2012
    Check out Phish doing the same in '04:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om2EQ7YXork
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  • Karts wrote:
    Finally found full video of WMA/99 Problems:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7VsFUAD538


    nice find. that was a great version of WMA. i really cant wait for this bootleg
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,317
    Karts wrote:
    Finally found full video of WMA/99 Problems:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7VsFUAD538


    nice find. that was a great version of WMA. i really cant wait for this bootleg

    Me too, and in 24bit Flac-HD audio style!
    Oh baby!!!!
  • Karts wrote:
    Finally found full video of WMA/99 Problems:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7VsFUAD538


    nice find. that was a great version of WMA. i really cant wait for this bootleg

    Yes, this is really awesome. I'm gonna get the bootleg for this song alone.
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  • The Akkus wrote:
    Totally dig this. As first, it was weird, then I found out that the song was about racial profiling and in reference to the police and not a female, and my whole opinion change. Also fits WMA perfectly.

    Good move by the guys doing this. Anytime that the message of peace, hope and love can be extended to new audiences, its a good thing.

    I didn't know this! Thanks for the info...
  • FrankieGFrankieG Posts: 9,100
    This was the perfect ending to a great show!
    I was not expecting it and the way they did it was perfect. I never really listened to 99 problems before this, but this sure changed my mind about JayZ.
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  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    edited September 2012
    I'm sure you all cry when you hear Ed sing "Who set the standard, born to be rich? Such fine examples, skinny little bitch" Or when he told a girl she had mosquito bite tits in Hershey?

    I'm pretty sure the "skinny little bitch" is meant ironically and the mosquito bite incident, ah well, that has been debated to death... I still remember the conversations going back and forth... The comments were harsh, but there is also something demeaning about a woman showing her tits the whole time...

    That all said, after read this thread, I do believe that lyrics of 99 are indeed about profiling - which is an interesting take...
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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    Here's jay z talking about the lyrics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSP7cY2u ... ata_player
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,148
    satansbed wrote:
    Here's jay z talking about the lyrics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSP7cY2u ... ata_player

    Thanks for posting. Makes the song even better.

    But the line "if you having GIRL problems I feel bad for you son..." is confusing
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  • I'll just go back to listening to N.W.A and Wu-Tang Clan...

    And ya'll think this song is offensive. :fp: :lol:
  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    I'll just go back to listening to N.W.A and Wu-Tang Clan...

    And ya'll think this song is offensive. :fp: :lol:

    Haha wu tang clan ain't nothing to fuck with
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