afterall he/shes manages to have you at his/her beck and call taking care of his/her every whim and need.who has domesticated who i wonder.dogs too.
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I saw Ed Helms last week and part of his bit talked about cats and dogs. He said that having a cat meant you have to keep a box of shit in one of your rooms and having a dog means you follow him, picking up his shit. Who is mastering who?
Of course, he said it a lot funnier than I just did.
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afterall he/shes manages to have you at his/her beck and call taking care of his/her every whim and need.who has domesticated who i wonder.dogs too.
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I saw Ed Helms last week and part of his bit talked about cats and dogs. He said that having a cat meant you have to keep a box of shit in one of your rooms and having a dog means you follow him, picking up his shit. Who is mastering who?
Of course, he said it a lot funnier than I just did.
oh its funny no matter who says it.
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... But, in the big picture, Man is nothing more than a highly evolved ape that resides on a tiny blue rock... circling a mediocre star in an average galaxy...
what makes you think that? what if mankind as we are today is the epitome of evolution?
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... But, in the big picture, Man is nothing more than a highly evolved ape that resides on a tiny blue rock... circling a mediocre star in an average galaxy...
what makes you think that? what if mankind as we are today is the epitome of evolution?
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Any way you look at it... Human and apes are related. We just happen to be the highest on the evolutionary ladder, so, we run the show. Why would the great, creator of the universe and everything in it focus all of His love and attention on us? The universe is a big place and is pretty complicated... and I bet a pretty tough thing to run. If we are it... then, why the fuck are we so fucked up? If we are God's greatest creating... it doesn't say much about His creation skills... in my opinion.
And if we have evolved to the point where we cannot evolve any further... well, then good luck to us.
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... But, in the big picture, Man is nothing more than a highly evolved ape that resides on a tiny blue rock... circling a mediocre star in an average galaxy...
what makes you think that? what if mankind as we are today is the epitome of evolution?
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Any way you look at it... Human and apes are related. We just happen to be the highest on the evolutionary ladder, so, we run the show. Why would the great, creator of the universe and everything in it focus all of His love and attention on us? The universe is a big place and is pretty complicated... and I bet a pretty tough thing to run. If we are it... then, why the fuck are we so fucked up? If we are God's greatest creating... it doesn't say much about His creation skills... in my opinion.
And if we have evolved to the point where we cannot evolve any further... well, then good luck to us.
i would say we are so fucked up cause that is the nature of the beast... that it has zero to do with a creator cause there is no creator per se. like everything else on this planet, we evolved to where we are today. we did it alone without any help from an almighty. we are intelligent creatures but i think we have not used that intelligence to our ultimate benefit... and we may never. we seem to be on our own self destructive kick where accumulative wealth is the name of the game to the detriment of everything else. as it turns out this isnt advantageous for all mankind(go figure), but it seems its what the 1st world has a boner for. we dont seem to be able to live collectively to the betterment of ALL mankind... and that will be our downfall.
i agree that humans and apes are related.. that they have a common ancestor, NOT that humans evolved from apes.
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i would say we are so fucked up cause that is the nature of the beast... that it has zero to do with a creator cause there is no creator per se. like everything else on this planet, we evolved to where we are today. we did it alone without any help from an almighty. we are intelligent creatures but i think we have not used that intelligence to our ultimate benefit... and we may never. we seem to be on our own self destructive kick where accumulative wealth is the name of the game to the detriment of everything else. as it turns out this isnt advantageous for all mankind(go figure), but it seems its what the 1st world has a boner for. we dont seem to be able to live collectively to the betterment of ALL mankind... and that will be our downfall.
i agree that humans and apes are related.. that they have a common ancestor, NOT that humans evolved from apes.
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Agreed. I opinion is that Man created God in order to lean on... to explain nature... to explain the unexplainable.
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And we are really just apes. A man, much greater than myself, had a better way to put it:
"I think I'm sophisticated 'cos I'm living my life like a good homosapien.
But all around me everybody's multiplying and they're walking round like flies, man.
So I'm no better than the animals sitting in their cages in the zoo, man.
'Cos compared to the flowers and the birds and the trees I am an apeman.
I think I'm so educated and I'm so civilized 'cos I'm a strict vegetarian.
But with the over-population and inflation and starvation and the crazy politicians... I don't feel safe in this world no more, I don't want to die in a nuclear war, I want to sail away to a distant shore and make like an ape man.
I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voo-doo man, oh I'm an apeman.
'Cos compared to the sun that sits in the sky, Compared to the clouds as they roll by, Compared to the bugs and the spiders and flies... I am an apeman.
In man's evolution he has created the city and The motor traffic rumble.
But give me half a chance And I'd be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle.
'Cos the only time that I feel at ease, Is swinging up and down in a coconut tree.
Oh, what a life of luxury to be like an apeman.
I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voo-doo man, I am an ape man.
I look out the window, but I can't see the sky, 'Cos the air pollution is fogging up my eyes.
I want to get out of this city alive And make like an ape man.
Come and love me, be my apeman girl And we'd be so happy in my apeman world.
I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voo-doo man, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'll be your Tarzan, you'll be my Jane, I'll keep you warm and you'll keep me sane, And we'll sit in the trees and eat bananas all day, Just like an apeman.
I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voo-doo man, Oh, I'm an ape man.
I don't feel safe in this world no more, I don't want to die in a nuclear war.
I want to sail away to a distant shore And make like an apeman."
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Agreed. I opinion is that Man created God in order to lean on... to explain nature... to explain the unexplainable....
Mankind creating God in his own image makes way more sense than God creating mankind in his own image. it is a concept i can totally get behind and understand. and you know what??? it doesnt make life any less wonderous.
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Have you read The Bible multiple times or the other theologian writings? I DO practice critical thinking and am skeptical of what I hear but at some point you just have to accept the OVERWHELMING evidence regarding God.
***You don't seem to get it. You're advocating one position (critical thinking, skepticism, etc.) for a position you don't seem to agree with than advocating another (read and agree with the models or you're a denier) for another position you agree with. I'm just pointing it out to you.
Yes, I've read the entire Bible (NIV). Deuteronomy and Numbers: proof that man wrote the Bible. Song of Solomaon: prove that "love and only love will endure", nowhere, proof that humans are not the major cause of current climate change. Other theological writings? Yes, many major works on many religions. Even Martin Buber- challenging stuff!
Overwhelming evidence of the existence of God? Sure- but which one?
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I'm laughing at myself because I have no idea why I said that. I think I was tiring of the debate and was just trying to goof on it.
But anyway, I don't think the existence or absence of God has anything to do with "overwhelming evidence". That's for scientific matters, not religious or spiritual-- unless your into one of the forms of religious science but to me that's an oxymoron.
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I'm laughing at myself because I have no idea why I said that. I think I was tiring of the debate and was just trying to goof on it.
But anyway, I don't think the existence or absence of God has anything to do with "overwhelming evidence". That's for scientific matters, not religious or spiritual-- unless your into one of the forms of religious science but to me that's an oxymoron.
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Sometimes... isn't the absence of proof... proof?
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I'm laughing at myself because I have no idea why I said that. I think I was tiring of the debate and was just trying to goof on it.
But anyway, I don't think the existence or absence of God has anything to do with "overwhelming evidence". That's for scientific matters, not religious or spiritual-- unless your into one of the forms of religious science but to me that's an oxymoron.
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Sometimes... isn't the absence of proof... proof?
proof of what?
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I'm laughing at myself because I have no idea why I said that. I think I was tiring of the debate and was just trying to goof on it.
But anyway, I don't think the existence or absence of God has anything to do with "overwhelming evidence". That's for scientific matters, not religious or spiritual-- unless your into one of the forms of religious science but to me that's an oxymoron.
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Sometimes... isn't the absence of proof... proof?
proof of what?
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Proof that whatever you are trying to prove... doesn't exist or didn't happen.
Like if someone said they could fly, for example, but could not actually prove they coud fly... chances are, they cannot fly.
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Proof that whatever you are trying to prove... doesn't exist or didn't happen.
Like if someone said they could fly, for example, but could not actually prove they coud fly... chances are, they cannot fly.
knowing what we know about aerodynamics a person doesnt even need to prove they can fly for us to disbelieve them. its a fact of nature that humans cant fly under their own locomotion.
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Proof that whatever you are trying to prove... doesn't exist or didn't happen.
Like if someone said they could fly, for example, but could not actually prove they coud fly... chances are, they cannot fly.
knowing what we know about aerodynamics a person doesnt even need to prove they can fly for us to disbelieve them. its a fact of nature that humans cant fly under their own locomotion.
Not to get too off topic but as much as I dislike flying in planes (last time was around 1987, then I watched "La Bamba", never again since) I love the idea of flying like a bird. I've had dreams where gravity lets go of me and I fall off the earth and that's cool for about 1 second but it turns out to just be a reverse fall.
Ah, but to fly like a bird!
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Proof that whatever you are trying to prove... doesn't exist or didn't happen.
Like if someone said they could fly, for example, but could not actually prove they coud fly... chances are, they cannot fly.
knowing what we know about aerodynamics a person doesnt even need to prove they can fly for us to disbelieve them. its a fact of nature that humans cant fly under their own locomotion.
Not to get too off topic but as much as I dislike flying in planes (last time was around 1987, then I watched "La Bamba", never again since) I love the idea of flying like a bird. I've had dreams where gravity lets go of me and I fall off the earth and that's cool for about 1 second but it turns out to just be a reverse fall.
Ah, but to fly like a bird!
if i had a super power itd be the ability to fly... itd be awesome.
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Have you ever meditated Cosmo? I think you should try it a few times. Just because I get this sense that you're so interested in seeking the truth, and meditation can do some wondrous things if you're willing to keep at it.
Have you ever meditated Cosmo? I think you should try it a few times. Just because I get this sense that you're so interested in seeking the truth, and meditation can do some wondrous things if you're willing to keep at it.
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Does 'Spacing Out' count? Because, if it does, then I'm a master.
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Have you ever meditated Cosmo? I think you should try it a few times. Just because I get this sense that you're so interested in seeking the truth, and meditation can do some wondrous things if you're willing to keep at it.
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Have you ever meditated Cosmo? I think you should try it a few times. Just because I get this sense that you're so interested in seeking the truth, and meditation can do some wondrous things if you're willing to keep at it.
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I saw Ed Helms last week and part of his bit talked about cats and dogs. He said that having a cat meant you have to keep a box of shit in one of your rooms and having a dog means you follow him, picking up his shit. Who is mastering who?
Of course, he said it a lot funnier than I just did.
Hail, Hail!!!
oh its funny no matter who says it.
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what makes you think that? what if mankind as we are today is the epitome of evolution?
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Any way you look at it... Human and apes are related. We just happen to be the highest on the evolutionary ladder, so, we run the show. Why would the great, creator of the universe and everything in it focus all of His love and attention on us? The universe is a big place and is pretty complicated... and I bet a pretty tough thing to run. If we are it... then, why the fuck are we so fucked up? If we are God's greatest creating... it doesn't say much about His creation skills... in my opinion.
And if we have evolved to the point where we cannot evolve any further... well, then good luck to us.
Hail, Hail!!!
i would say we are so fucked up cause that is the nature of the beast... that it has zero to do with a creator cause there is no creator per se. like everything else on this planet, we evolved to where we are today. we did it alone without any help from an almighty. we are intelligent creatures but i think we have not used that intelligence to our ultimate benefit... and we may never. we seem to be on our own self destructive kick where accumulative wealth is the name of the game to the detriment of everything else. as it turns out this isnt advantageous for all mankind(go figure), but it seems its what the 1st world has a boner for. we dont seem to be able to live collectively to the betterment of ALL mankind... and that will be our downfall.
i agree that humans and apes are related.. that they have a common ancestor, NOT that humans evolved from apes.
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Agreed. I opinion is that Man created God in order to lean on... to explain nature... to explain the unexplainable.
...
And we are really just apes. A man, much greater than myself, had a better way to put it:
"I think I'm sophisticated 'cos I'm living my life like a good homosapien.
But all around me everybody's multiplying and they're walking round like flies, man.
So I'm no better than the animals sitting in their cages in the zoo, man.
'Cos compared to the flowers and the birds and the trees I am an apeman.
I think I'm so educated and I'm so civilized 'cos I'm a strict vegetarian.
But with the over-population and inflation and starvation and the crazy politicians... I don't feel safe in this world no more, I don't want to die in a nuclear war, I want to sail away to a distant shore and make like an ape man.
I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voo-doo man, oh I'm an apeman.
'Cos compared to the sun that sits in the sky, Compared to the clouds as they roll by, Compared to the bugs and the spiders and flies... I am an apeman.
In man's evolution he has created the city and The motor traffic rumble.
But give me half a chance And I'd be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle.
'Cos the only time that I feel at ease, Is swinging up and down in a coconut tree.
Oh, what a life of luxury to be like an apeman.
I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voo-doo man, I am an ape man.
I look out the window, but I can't see the sky, 'Cos the air pollution is fogging up my eyes.
I want to get out of this city alive And make like an ape man.
Come and love me, be my apeman girl And we'd be so happy in my apeman world.
I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voo-doo man, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'll be your Tarzan, you'll be my Jane, I'll keep you warm and you'll keep me sane, And we'll sit in the trees and eat bananas all day, Just like an apeman.
I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, Oh, I'm an apeman.
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voo-doo man, Oh, I'm an ape man.
I don't feel safe in this world no more, I don't want to die in a nuclear war.
I want to sail away to a distant shore And make like an apeman."
Hail, Hail!!!
Mankind creating God in his own image makes way more sense than God creating mankind in his own image. it is a concept i can totally get behind and understand. and you know what??? it doesnt make life any less wonderous.
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But anyway, I don't think the existence or absence of God has anything to do with "overwhelming evidence". That's for scientific matters, not religious or spiritual-- unless your into one of the forms of religious science but to me that's an oxymoron.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Sometimes... isn't the absence of proof... proof?
Hail, Hail!!!
proof of what?
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Proof that whatever you are trying to prove... doesn't exist or didn't happen.
Like if someone said they could fly, for example, but could not actually prove they coud fly... chances are, they cannot fly.
Hail, Hail!!!
knowing what we know about aerodynamics a person doesnt even need to prove they can fly for us to disbelieve them. its a fact of nature that humans cant fly under their own locomotion.
take a good look
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Not to get too off topic but as much as I dislike flying in planes (last time was around 1987, then I watched "La Bamba", never again since) I love the idea of flying like a bird. I've had dreams where gravity lets go of me and I fall off the earth and that's cool for about 1 second but it turns out to just be a reverse fall.
Ah, but to fly like a bird!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
if i had a super power itd be the ability to fly... itd be awesome.
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Does 'Spacing Out' count? Because, if it does, then I'm a master.
Hail, Hail!!!
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Well, it's a start, I suppose.
But not quite... and neither is falling asleep.