Let Your Voice Be Heard

robynivey

I'm in the NY area and due to the amount of fan club members in this area, this is the 2nd tour that I wasn't lucky enough to be chosen for tix through the club. Has the band thought if doing a fan club only show?? That would be amazing!! Any talks of adding a show like last time they came around??

While I'm still not happy with ticketmaster...I had 4 tix, while in the process of paying, the site had an error and I lost them! After continuing for over an hour, I was lucky enough to get 2 tix...I am super excited & still love PJ!! Can't wait for Oct!!

Claireack

I'd really like a European Tour, very soon.

Actually, I usually can only manage one show, so if they could do Manchester UK, I would be grateful.

Thank you.

Savage Tongue

Ten Club should offer a pre-sale password for people that lost out on choices for the lotto.
Send it in an email two nights before the public sale then have the "second chance" presale the day before it goes to the public. That way active members have a chance at the pool of tix before the open feeding frenzy.
Just a thought.

TP80932

Would 10C consider doing another run of merch for the Wrigley show and making it available online? I couldn't wait in the pre-show lines (traveled in from AZ), and by the time I got to the tables at the concert all they had left was shirts. I realize this wouldn't work for most shows, but Wrigley was different. Every piece of merch sold is now available on eBay for 2 or 3 times the original price - if you did another run of the posters (PLEASE!!) and the hats for everybody who couldn't get one I'm reasonably sure you'd sell out again. Plus it would be a nice way to throw salt in the game of all the "merch scalpers" who only bought things so they could be sold on the secondary market.

PJ_Soul

TP80932 wrote:

Would 10C consider doing another run of merch for the Wrigley show and making it available online? I couldn't wait in the pre-show lines (traveled in from AZ), and by the time I got to the tables at the concert all they had left was shirts. I realize this wouldn't work for most shows, but Wrigley was different. Every piece of merch sold is now available on eBay for 2 or 3 times the original price - if you did another run of the posters (PLEASE!!) and the hats for everybody who couldn't get one I'm reasonably sure you'd sell out again. Plus it would be a nice way to throw salt in the game of all the "merch scalpers" who only bought things so they could be sold on the secondary market.

I would definitely buy a PJ Wrigley hat if they became available in the shop (assuming it wasn't ugly).

Lenz

I have another suggestion:

Since the tenclub grew thus big and since the ticket-demand for certain shows exceeds the ticket-supply (as shown by the lottery requests of the tenclub-members), why not switch shese shows to 10c-only-shows? (if that should be possible according to the contractual obligations of the band)

In this case, the persons who want the tickets for watching the band would get the tickets and those who only want the tickets for making money with them would be locked out. And it would be much easier to find the black sheeps within 10c (hopefully there are none)

cheers
Lenz

over50fan

PJ_Soul wrote:

TP80932 wrote:

Would 10C consider doing another run of merch for the Wrigley show and making it available online? I couldn't wait in the pre-show lines (traveled in from AZ), and by the time I got to the tables at the concert all they had left was shirts. I realize this wouldn't work for most shows, but Wrigley was different. Every piece of merch sold is now available on eBay for 2 or 3 times the original price - if you did another run of the posters (PLEASE!!) and the hats for everybody who couldn't get one I'm reasonably sure you'd sell out again. Plus it would be a nice way to throw salt in the game of all the "merch scalpers" who only bought things so they could be sold on the secondary market.

I would definitely buy a PJ Wrigley hat if they became available in the shop (assuming it wasn't ugly).

I got me a set list shirt but I would definitely buy a blue ballpark shirt and a hat and some stickers. 10C could make alot more money. Wrigley was "special" and I would love to have more merch. for myself and my son..... not to resell
:thumbup:

RKCNDY

I'm sticking it out there because of the issues I saw with Wrigley. <

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I wasn't even there.

Merch line: Is there a room or indoor area you can block off so people can get their merch without all the pushing and shoving? A sort of pseudo 'pop-up shop'. Set it up like the PJ20 museum, let in 50 people at a time (or whatever), when 4 people leave (or whatever) let in more people. The way the poster show was run was excellent, no 'going back' and 'adding more' items, "You want more? Get back in line"

It was a huge problem in Missoula, I was in line 2 hours before they opened, and watched them set up the stand, only to be continually ignored for over an hour while other people who cut in line got served before me, I even said, "I HAVE CASH" several times since they were freaking out over the credit card machines not working. Maybe even have a 'CASH ONLY' and a 'CREDIT/CASH' check out line.

I realize it's overwhelming to have hundreds of people shouting and freaking out over merch, it would be easier on the people working the booths and the people who want to buy. :idea:

I realize this would only work for pre-sale, before the show starts. Maybe even give 10c members a wristband for entry into the 'mech pop-up shop' so they have first crack at the merch before flippers.

I did like that you put together something showing what merch was available, then people could make lists beforehand.

Cosmo

RKCNDY wrote:

I'm sticking it out there because of the issues I saw with Wrigley. <

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I wasn't even there.

Merch line: Is there a room or indoor area you can block off so people can get their merch without all the pushing and shoving? A sort of pseudo 'pop-up shop'. Set it up like the PJ20 museum, let in 50 people at a time (or whatever), when 4 people leave (or whatever) let in more people. The way the poster show was run was excellent, no 'going back' and 'adding more' items, "You want more? Get back in line"

It was a huge problem in Missoula, I was in line 2 hours before they opened, and watched them set up the stand, only to be continually ignored for over an hour while other people who cut in line got served before me, I even said, "I HAVE CASH" several times since they were freaking out over the credit card machines not working. Maybe even have a 'CASH ONLY' and a 'CREDIT/CASH' check out line.

I realize it's overwhelming to have hundreds of people shouting and freaking out over merch, it would be easier on the people working the booths and the people who want to buy. :idea:

I realize this would only work for pre-sale, before the show starts. Maybe even give 10c members a wristband for entry into the 'mech pop-up shop' so they have first crack at the merch before flippers.

I did like that you put together something showing what merch was available, then people could make lists beforehand.

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I'm going to tag on to this one because it's a good idea:
Set up a 'Tour' section in the 'Goods' Section of this website.
List the majority of goods to be sold on the tour and only allow those members who won tickets during the ticket lottery to pre-order the stuff they want. Include a generic poster option for one poster, sight unseen, to the show they won. Also, one city specific shirt (if avaiable).
Send to the addressee after the tour Leg completes.
Not enough employees? Then process and ship after the last show of the tour.
...
Unsold quantities go up for sale to the general membership only for one week after the end of the last show... opened up to the general public after that.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

RKCNDY wrote:

I'm sticking it out there because of the issues I saw with Wrigley. <

---

I wasn't even there.

Merch line: Is there a room or indoor area you can block off so people can get their merch without all the pushing and shoving? A sort of pseudo 'pop-up shop'. Set it up like the PJ20 museum, let in 50 people at a time (or whatever), when 4 people leave (or whatever) let in more people. The way the poster show was run was excellent, no 'going back' and 'adding more' items, "You want more? Get back in line"

It was a huge problem in Missoula, I was in line 2 hours before they opened, and watched them set up the stand, only to be continually ignored for over an hour while other people who cut in line got served before me, I even said, "I HAVE CASH" several times since they were freaking out over the credit card machines not working. Maybe even have a 'CASH ONLY' and a 'CREDIT/CASH' check out line.

I realize it's overwhelming to have hundreds of people shouting and freaking out over merch, it would be easier on the people working the booths and the people who want to buy. :idea:

I realize this would only work for pre-sale, before the show starts. Maybe even give 10c members a wristband for entry into the 'mech pop-up shop' so they have first crack at the merch before flippers.

I did like that you put together something showing what merch was available, then people could make lists beforehand.

...
I'm going to tag on to this one because it's a good idea:
Set up a 'Tour' section in the 'Goods' Section of this website.
List the majority of goods to be sold on the tour and only allow those members who won tickets during the ticket lottery to pre-order the stuff they want. Include a generic poster option for one poster, sight unseen, to the show they won. Also, one city specific shirt (if avaiable).
Send to the addressee after the tour Leg completes.
Not enough employees? Then process and ship after the last show of the tour.
...
Unsold quantities go up for sale to the general membership only for one week after the end of the last show... opened up to the general public after that.

Agree, except don't restrict to those who won tix. Many, many members who go to the shows didn't win the tix themselves - they got someone's spare.

nextstopfalling

I would respectfully suggest that the drawing for Worcester 2 pre-sale - which is restricted to active 10c members who entered but lost the lotto for Worcester 1 - be conducted in order of the priority that members assigned to their Worcester 1 entries (assuming that info is still in your database). I.e. draw first from among those who selected Worcester 1 as their first priority, then from those who made it their second priority, etc. - in effect the way it would have worked if both shows had been in the same drawing.

The restriction on Worcester 2 entries is very fair in my humble if admittedly biased opinion and I believe the drawing would be fairer still if someone who made Worcester 1 their top priority couldn't potentially lose out to someone for whom it was, say, priority #9. Because with my luck, yeah, I would be that guy.

Thanks for reading.

ambrasjes

nextstopfalling wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that the drawing for Worcester 2 pre-sale - which is restricted to active 10c members who entered but lost the lotto for Worcester 1 - be conducted in order of the priority that members assigned to their Worcester 1 entries (assuming that info is still in your database). I.e. draw first from among those who selected Worcester 1 as their first priority, then from those who made it their second priority, etc. - in effect the way it would have worked if both shows had been in the same drawing.

The restriction on Worcester 2 entries is very fair in my humble if admittedly biased opinion and I believe the drawing would be fairer still if someone who made Worcester 1 their top priority couldn't potentially lose out to someone for whom it was, say, priority #9. Because with my luck, yeah, I would be that guy.

Thanks for reading.

Indeed, the original priority should rollover if a second show gets added. Because otherwise next drawing a lot of 'members' will enter the drawing for every show.
Even though chances are slim to none to score anything in the original lotery listed as priority 4 and up, you get another chance at priority 1, 2,... in a second drawing if a high demand show gets added to the tour later on.

And that my friends, isn't right.

Cosmo

ambrasjes wrote:

nextstopfalling wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that the drawing for Worcester 2 pre-sale - which is restricted to active 10c members who entered but lost the lotto for Worcester 1 - be conducted in order of the priority that members assigned to their Worcester 1 entries (assuming that info is still in your database). I.e. draw first from among those who selected Worcester 1 as their first priority, then from those who made it their second priority, etc. - in effect the way it would have worked if both shows had been in the same drawing.

The restriction on Worcester 2 entries is very fair in my humble if admittedly biased opinion and I believe the drawing would be fairer still if someone who made Worcester 1 their top priority couldn't potentially lose out to someone for whom it was, say, priority #9. Because with my luck, yeah, I would be that guy.

Thanks for reading.

Indeed, the original priority should rollover if a second show gets added. Because otherwise next drawing a lot of 'members' will enter the drawing for every show.
Even though chances are slim to none to score anything in the original lotery listed as priority 4 and up, you get another chance at priority 1, 2,... in a second drawing if a high demand show gets added to the tour later on.

And that my friends, isn't right.

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Agreed. Anyone who has already one the first show should not be eligible for the second. Just like in Brooklyn, Philadelphia and Los Angeles.
Give others a chance at them.

dimitrispearljam

Cosmo wrote:

ambrasjes wrote:

nextstopfalling wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that the drawing for Worcester 2 pre-sale - which is restricted to active 10c members who entered but lost the lotto for Worcester 1 - be conducted in order of the priority that members assigned to their Worcester 1 entries (assuming that info is still in your database). I.e. draw first from among those who selected Worcester 1 as their first priority, then from those who made it their second priority, etc. - in effect the way it would have worked if both shows had been in the same drawing.

The restriction on Worcester 2 entries is very fair in my humble if admittedly biased opinion and I believe the drawing would be fairer still if someone who made Worcester 1 their top priority couldn't potentially lose out to someone for whom it was, say, priority #9. Because with my luck, yeah, I would be that guy.

Thanks for reading.

Indeed, the original priority should rollover if a second show gets added. Because otherwise next drawing a lot of 'members' will enter the drawing for every show.
Even though chances are slim to none to score anything in the original lotery listed as priority 4 and up, you get another chance at priority 1, 2,... in a second drawing if a high demand show gets added to the tour later on.

And that my friends, isn't right.

...
Agreed. Anyone who has already one the first show should not be eligible for the second. Just like in Brooklyn, Philadelphia and Los Angeles.
Give others a chance at them.

agreed to all..back to back shows added latyer should be consider at the douyble ones annouce at he first announcement
and i agree with that"the original priority should rollover if a second show gets added."

Kathi

agree as well..though I wonder how much the priority thing matters, lots of people won with high choices.

sam8th

Savage Tongue wrote:

Ten Club should offer a pre-sale password for people that lost out on choices for the lotto.
Send it in an email two nights before the public sale then have the "second chance" presale the day before it goes to the public. That way active members have a chance at the pool of tix before the open feeding frenzy.
Just a thought.

Thank you, Savage Tongue ... never thot I'd hear myself utter those words ... hugs

sam8th

quoteI would respectfully suggest that the drawing for Worcester 2 pre-sale - which is restricted to active 10c members who entered but lost the lotto for Worcester 1 - be conducted in order of the priority that members assigned to their Worcester 1 entries (assuming that info is still in your database). I.e. draw first from among those who selected Worcester 1 as their first priority, then from those who made it their second priority, etc. - in effect the way it would have worked if both shows had been in the same drawing.

The restriction on Worcester 2 entries is very fair in my humble if admittedly biased opinion and I believe the drawing would be fairer still if someone who made Worcester 1 their top priority couldn't potentially lose out to someone for whom it was, say, priority #9. Because with my luck, yeah, I would be that guy.

Thanks for reading.quote

Indeed, the original priority should rollover if a second show gets added. Because otherwise next drawing a lot of 'members' will enter the drawing for every show.
Even though chances are slim to none to score anything in the original lotery listed as priority 4 and up, you get another chance at priority 1, 2,... in a second drawing if a high demand show gets added to the tour later on.

And that my friends, isn't right.quote ...
Agreed. Anyone who has already one the first show should not be eligible for the second. Just like in Brooklyn, Philadelphia and Los Angeles.
Give others a chance at them.quote
agreed to all..back to back shows added latyer should be consider at the douyble ones annouce at he first announcement
and i agree with that"the original priority should rollover if a second show gets added."[/quote]

Agree with all posts above ... for any second shows, please give those shut outs another chance!! Thanks!!

Sloth2

Big Day Out

Why?

The tickets are massively overpriced (even compared to what us Australians normally have to put up with)

There are no side shows as the band has signed an exclusivity deal.

Your last tour, 50,000 Pearl Jam fans in their own right turned up to your Melbourne show. Even the band themselves were astounded by it.

And you go and kick us in the balls by playing BDO.

What's the point of being an Australian 10C member anymore?

andrewdel

Agree.

BDO sucks. Read the comments in "Pearl Jam will Play the BIG DAY OUT" thread for a taste of the disdain.

This reeks of promoters leveraging a loyal Aussie fan base to get the PJ fans to sell out an under performing festival.

ambrasjes

Kathi wrote:

agree as well..though I wonder how much the priority thing matters, lots of people won with high choices.

Kathi, now you are generalising the entire lottery.
Yes, some people got tickets with higher priorities for shows with lesser demand.
For the high demand shows most people who put in priority 1 didn't score tickets, so everyone with priority 2 and up stood no chance whatsoever...
So it all depends on the shows that people were aiming for. But with some tweaking we can figure this lottery thing out.