Let Your Voice Be Heard

leolsmathias

Dear band,

Next time you come to Brazil, please be assured to guarantee to your fans tickets at fair prices... The 3-day passport to Lollapalooza is being sold for $400 (yes, four hundred dollars, not considering the 20% sales tax)!!! It is too much for people like me, who work the entire month for a $500 salary. Yeah, I know that the band has nothing to do with the festival's organization, but at least the benefit for 10c members should be applicable for a single day ticket, which is not.

I don't even want to mention how bad is the online sale... It's really a mess... In 2 minutes after beginning of online presale, I received a message telling that the tickets were sold out... Are you kidding me???

And there are people who still get pissed off when guys like Chael Sonnen talk sh*t about Brazil...

Indifference71

leolsmathias wrote:

Dear band,

Next time you come to Brazil, please be assured to guarantee to your fans tickets at fair prices... The 3-day passport to Lollapalooza is being sold for $400 (yes, four hundred dollars, not considering the 20% sales tax)!!! It is too much for people like me, who work the entire month for a $500 salary. Yeah, I know that the band has nothing to do with the festival's organization, but at least the benefit for 10c members should be applicable for a single day ticket, which is not.

I don't even want to mention how bad is the online sale... It's really a mess... In 2 minutes after beginning of online presale, I received a message telling that the tickets were sold out... Are you kidding me???

And there are people who still get pissed off when guys like Chael Sonnen talk sh*t about Brazil...

Why can't people understand that the 10c has no control over any type of ticket sales for festivals??

dimitrispearljam

Indifference71 wrote:

leolsmathias wrote:

Dear band,

Next time you come to Brazil, please be assured to guarantee to your fans tickets at fair prices... The 3-day passport to Lollapalooza is being sold for $400 (yes, four hundred dollars, not considering the 20% sales tax)!!! It is too much for people like me, who work the entire month for a $500 salary. Yeah, I know that the band has nothing to do with the festival's organization, but at least the benefit for 10c members should be applicable for a single day ticket, which is not.

I don't even want to mention how bad is the online sale... It's really a mess... In 2 minutes after beginning of online presale, I received a message telling that the tickets were sold out... Are you kidding me???

And there are people who still get pissed off when guys like Chael Sonnen talk sh*t about Brazil...

Why can't people understand that the 10c has no control over any type of ticket sales for festivals??

leolsmathias

Why can't people understand that the 10c has no control over any type of ticket sales for festivals??[/quote]

I understand... I'm not asking for help nor I hope that 10c could solve my problem... I am just telling a situation that bothers me. I am just trying to make my voice be heard... Isn't it the name of the topic?

PJ_Soul

leolsmathias wrote:

Dear band,

Next time you come to Brazil, please be assured to guarantee to your fans tickets at fair prices... The 3-day passport to Lollapalooza is being sold for $400 (yes, four hundred dollars, not considering the 20% sales tax)!!! It is too much for people like me, who work the entire month for a $500 salary. Yeah, I know that the band has nothing to do with the festival's organization, but at least the benefit for 10c members should be applicable for a single day ticket, which is not.

I don't even want to mention how bad is the online sale... It's really a mess... In 2 minutes after beginning of online presale, I received a message telling that the tickets were sold out... Are you kidding me???

And there are people who still get pissed off when guys like Chael Sonnen talk sh*t about Brazil...

Pretty sure 10c can do absolutely nothing when it comes to the selling of those tickets... I think you need to be sending your concerns to the festival organizers if you want future improvements.

PJ_Soul

leolsmathias wrote:

Why can't people understand that the 10c has no control over any type of ticket sales for festivals??

I understand... I'm not asking for help nor I hope that 10c could solve my problem... I am just telling a situation that bothers me. I am just trying to make my voice be heard... Isn't it the name of the topic?[/quote]
Yeah, but they can't solve this problem and never will be able to.

curly

NoelMichael wrote:

Merch idea--- PJ Cooler
Because PJ fans love tailgating, and tailgaters love PJ
Or just sell some fucking badass stencils so we can spraypaint PJ logos all over the shit we already have

I do like the cooler idea as well...

Koozie's are cool though...it's a damn good start...

Pap

More Soundgarden, Tres Mts., RNDM, Jeff Ament, Stone Gossard, Brad, Eddie Vedder, Flight To Mars, Shadow, Three Fish, Wellwater Conspiracy, Hater, Jack Irons, Star Anna & The Laughing Dogs, Po & The 4fathers, The Rockfords, Deranged Diction, Green River, Mother Love Bone, Harrybu McCage, Temple Of The Dog and Mike McCready on PJ Radio please.

PJ_Soul

Pap wrote:

More Soundgarden, Tres Mts., RNDM, Jeff Ament, Stone Gossard, Brad, Eddie Vedder, Flight To Mars, Shadow, Three Fish, Wellwater Conspiracy, Hater, Jack Irons, Star Anna & The Laughing Dogs, Po & The 4fathers, The Rockfords, Deranged Diction, Green River, Mother Love Bone, Harrybu McCage, Temple Of The Dog and Mike McCready on PJ Radio please.

papa_pearls_jam.pj20

PJ_Soul wrote:

Pap wrote:

More Soundgarden, Tres Mts., RNDM, Jeff Ament, Stone Gossard, Brad, Eddie Vedder, Flight To Mars, Shadow, Three Fish, Wellwater Conspiracy, Hater, Jack Irons, Star Anna & The Laughing Dogs, Po & The 4fathers, The Rockfords, Deranged Diction, Green River, Mother Love Bone, Harrybu McCage, Temple Of The Dog and Mike McCready on PJ Radio please.

What? No Happy Chichester? C'mon!

curly

PJ_Soul wrote:

leolsmathias wrote:

Dear band,

Next time you come to Brazil, please be assured to guarantee to your fans tickets at fair prices... The 3-day passport to Lollapalooza is being sold for $400 (yes, four hundred dollars, not considering the 20% sales tax)!!! It is too much for people like me, who work the entire month for a $500 salary. Yeah, I know that the band has nothing to do with the festival's organization, but at least the benefit for 10c members should be applicable for a single day ticket, which is not.

I don't even want to mention how bad is the online sale... It's really a mess... In 2 minutes after beginning of online presale, I received a message telling that the tickets were sold out... Are you kidding me???

And there are people who still get pissed off when guys like Chael Sonnen talk sh*t about Brazil...

Pretty sure 10c can do absolutely nothing when it comes to the selling of those tickets... I think you need to be sending your concerns to the festival organizers if you want future improvements.

i totally feel yall"s pain....it's really sad how bad we get screwed but i really don't think there is anyway around it...
Deluna Fest in Florida just 2 weeks ago...I had to buy tix for all 3 days festival ($225.00., ouch)..knowing pj was playing the 1st night and then we were driving to Atlanta for pj the next night 5 hours north...
thankfully,...Midtown Music Fest in atlanta sold single night tix and for only $55.00. that was so fn' cool and i gotta give props when props are due...
Atlanta, GA...We loved your city!!! and yes, we will be back to visit...

Ya, i know, i know...deluna fest eventually sold single night tix....but not til the last minute and who could wait til then to buy tix after months of planning and booking hotels/etc etc...

At the end of the day...still so so so thankful that i got to see them and i couldn't be more happier with the entire trip....
Not to mention,...i'm sure it helps out all the smaller bands that dont have the DRAW that pj brings and this way many (bands and fans) get to expierence the great weekend of music and entertainment...
peace, love and Pearl Jam....

curly

one things for certain...
with the thousands of 10club members...
things must be going pretty damn good...
Because if people weren't all that happy with the fan club or wanted things major"ly changed...
we'd be seeing thousands and thousands of posts on here...

I think that says a lot for how great the 10club's really ran and it's great for you guys to take in even more idea's to possibly make it,... even better yet...

So,.Keep up the great work...and i'm sure i speak for the majority on here...

WE COULDN'T THANK THE PEARLJAM/TENCLUB/EXTENDED PJ FAMILY ENOUGH!!!

Yes Way

I just finished reading the ESPN book, and a main theme in their success has been a dual revenue stream (advertisers and cable subscribers). With music, one of the main challenges today is that the revenue stream of album sales has very much decreased, leaving bands scrambling to find other sources of revenue.

I think Pearl Jam has a strength that they could monetize, and one they're not taking full advantage of. I also think that taking advantage of this strength would be a benefit to their fans - and everyone knows that Pearl Jam has always thought highly of their fans.

Pearl Jam could take a page out of Louis CK's book, and sell a video stream of every show for $5. The only difference is they could do it live.

I'm talking about one camera and the sound coming from what the soundboard is hearing. If you want a McCready Cam, more power to you. But with all the people on this forum every single show, just keeping track of and commenting on what songs are being played, I would say there's an obvious untapped market. Also, there are many, many others (like me) who simply monitor and don't comment.

Five bucks. Offer a discount for the full tour if you want. Whatever works. How much does a video camera cost? You'll have your money back in a couple shows, and you'll further cement the loyalty of the existing fanbase. Plus do something revolutionary on the level of releasing every show as an official bootleg.

Concern 1: Will that reduce demand for the bootlegs?
I can't say for sure, but the audio won't be remastered. I know my friend who has every boot would still get them all.

Concern 2: What about DVDs?
Don't broadcast a show that you're going to release via DVD. At least we'd know which DVDs were coming that way. Or simply release a DVD with better camera angles than what we'd get from the simple show camera that also includes backstage and offstage stuff, ala Immagine in Cornice. I would still buy that DVD, even if I had seen all those shows.

Concern 3: Will people stop coming to shows?
I know I wouldn't. I can't say for sure, but every football game worth a damn is on TV and that doesn't stop people from going to games every weekend and stadiums from being sold out.

Bonus: This has the potential to GREATLY cut down on the number of people recording the show with their phones. Who wouldn't love that?

Show me where this doesn't work. As Bill Simmons would say, who says no to this?

Thanks for listening.

PJ_Soul

Yes Way wrote:

I just finished reading the ESPN book, and a main theme in their success has been a dual revenue stream (advertisers and cable subscribers). With music, one of the main challenges today is that the revenue stream of album sales has very much decreased, leaving bands scrambling to find other sources of revenue.

I think Pearl Jam has a strength that they could monetize, and one they're not taking full advantage of. I also think that taking advantage of this strength would be a benefit to their fans - and everyone knows that Pearl Jam has always thought highly of their fans.

Pearl Jam could take a page out of Louis CK's book, and sell a video stream of every show for $5. The only difference is they could do it live.

I'm talking about one camera and the sound coming from what the soundboard is hearing. If you want a McCready Cam, more power to you. But with all the people on this forum every single show, just keeping track of and commenting on what songs are being played, I would say there's an obvious untapped market. Also, there are many, many others (like me) who simply monitor and don't comment.

Five bucks. Offer a discount for the full tour if you want. Whatever works. How much does a video camera cost? You'll have your money back in a couple shows, and you'll further cement the loyalty of the existing fanbase. Plus do something revolutionary on the level of releasing every show as an official bootleg.

Concern 1: Will that reduce demand for the bootlegs?
I can't say for sure, but the audio won't be remastered. I know my friend who has every boot would still get them all.

Concern 2: What about DVDs?
Don't broadcast a show that you're going to release via DVD. At least we'd know which DVDs were coming that way. Or simply release a DVD with better camera angles than what we'd get from the simple show camera that also includes backstage and offstage stuff, ala Immagine in Cornice. I would still buy that DVD, even if I had seen all those shows.

Concern 3: Will people stop coming to shows?
I know I wouldn't. I can't say for sure, but every football game worth a damn is on TV and that doesn't stop people from going to games every weekend and stadiums from being sold out.

Bonus: This has the potential to GREATLY cut down on the number of people recording the show with their phones. Who wouldn't love that?

Show me where this doesn't work. As Bill Simmons would say, who says no to this?

Thanks for listening.

Assuming this idea makes enough money to comfortably pay a cameraman and whatever other costs involved in getting it done, while still bringing in a decent revenue stream, it's a great idea.... Even if it didn't bring in much revenue, the draw it would have for fans who might be on the edge of joining 10c might be worth it alone (assuming the sale of access to the feeds were 10c only... could make it available to everyone and do better). Not sure having them available for permanent future viewing is realistic... more like live feed and then the video available for later viewing for a week or a month after the concert date.

ozgurkd

if PJ does not go on stage in Alaska soon I think I will be very mad, mad as freddie would get and eat you all!!!!

on2legs

Yes Way wrote:

As Bill Simmons would say, who says no to this?

Bill Simmons is the man - love his mailbags

Walkinstownlad

Can't wait for the new album in 2013 guys! My only real gripe is that PJ doesn't seem to play any West Coast gigs anymore that aren't music festivals. I'm in Portland, OR but lived in San Francisco for 27 years prior to moving here a few years ago, and I haven't seen them play a single date in either location since playing Outside Lands in 2009. Don't get me wrong, music festivals have some allure on occasion, but seeing your favorite band for over $100 a ticket playing for 51 minutes just plain sucks.

It's truly frustrating to see all the show announcements recently and over the last few years in South America, Europe, and numerous gigs played in places like Philly and Atlantic City, with NO shows announced in the region where it all began for this awesome band, the Northwest. I mean did the crowds here offend you guys in some way? The last stand alone/non-music festival show played in this region was over four years ago!! Time to bring it back home for the NW fans who've been with you since the beginning, through the thick & thin(battle with Ticketmaster, etc.) and show them/us that the love still exists because quite frankly it's hard to see it any other way when you haven't played a headlining show in this area in 4+ years, but you've been playing seemingly everywhere else. Cheers.

PJ_Soul

Walkinstownlad wrote:

Can't wait for the new album in 2013 guys! My only real gripe is that PJ doesn't seem to play any West Coast gigs anymore that aren't music festivals. I'm in Portland, OR but lived in San Francisco for 27 years prior to moving here a few years ago, and I haven't seen them play a single date in either location since playing Outside Lands in 2009. Don't get me wrong, music festivals have some allure on occasion, but seeing your favorite band for over $100 a ticket playing for 51 minutes just plain sucks.

It's truly frustrating to see all the show announcements recently and over the last few years in South America, Europe, and numerous gigs played in places like Philly and Atlantic City, with NO shows announced in the region where it all began for this awesome band, the Northwest. I mean did the crowds here offend you guys in some way? The last stand alone/non-music festival show played in this region was over four years ago!! Time to bring it back home for the NW fans who've been with you since the beginning, through the thick & thin(battle with Ticketmaster, etc.) and show them/us that the love still exists because quite frankly it's hard to see it any other way when you haven't played a headlining show in this area in 4+ years, but you've been playing seemingly everywhere else. Cheers.

They did play Vancouver last September... But anyway, yes, some west coast shows in 2013 please!! Everyone is already stoked for it. Vancouver, Seattle, the Gorge, Portland... that would be amazing! :thumbup: And maybe a 10C only show in Seattle would be the greatest thing ever? I think so.

mfc2006

play the Gorge, please.

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Hugh Freaking Dillon

some golf shirts or casual dress shirts for work with a small PJ or stickman logo on the breast would be nice.