but of course any politician suggesting so would be commiting career suicide. .
Shock, sadness, condoleances when tragedies such as this one and the Sikh Temple shooting happens. Then nothing. Too risky. Then next shooting... going in circles - no balls. Whichever political 'side'.
It's really frustrating not to see any changes being made or even actively discussed after 2 tragedies such as this in such a short time span.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
but of course any politician suggesting so would be commiting career suicide. .
Shock, sadness, condoleances when tragedies such as this one and the Sikh Temple shooting happens. Then nothing. Too risky. Then next shooting... going in circles - no balls. Whichever political 'side'.
It's really frustrating not to see any changes being made or even actively discussed after 2 tragedies such as this in such a short time span.
it will happen again so there will be more chances to put this into public forum..
I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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So your comments were not directed to me personally?
Really is this what you are saying?
Oh I am very sorry then that I took those insults to heart, my mistake.
It's just the same term was used towards me earlier in the thread from a different poster
is all ...
I'm sure you can understand my mistake.
I know honesty is very important in your line of work so of course I will take
your word here.
Also like I said very much against posting guidelines to make personal comments ...
for whatever reason.
I have never needed help but thank you
and I accept your version of the story...
all forgiven
That's good. So there will be no need to engage with me as if I'm your therapist then. You don't need to accept what I have to say and you don't need to extend your forgiveness. Take in any information (if any) that you think applies to you and discard the rest.
I look forward to continuing the conversation about crime/guns/mental illness with posters who share my opinion as well as those who offer differing points of views.[/quote
Engage like you are my therapist, comical,
that probably helps in your line of work a sense of humor...me too.
There are some with no sense of humor really I find in life
well unless they are making someone the burnt of a joke. Snide remarks and such.
Not sure why you think I was relying on your profession I actually questioned it I think :?
I am always ready to admit if I misunderstood someone though and took something personal
not directed at me.
I think most people here can do that.... don't you think?
Hey explain how someone, not me of course, was being Narcissistic in the thread,
seeing that you brought that up...
Isn't that vanity like those with a picture of themselves as their avatars?
I have never really understood that term or the personality...
not knowing anyone like that.
But wait thats off topic... though you brought it up we better not carry that further...
I'll google I guess. Learn a little about shh-tuff or you could pm me with
what brought that conclusion.
I too am awaiting what they discover about James Holmes, if he is indeed a schizophrenic
or one having a thought disorder, as so many trained professionals have eluded to.
I hope they don't try to fry him anyways... that's my fear.
but of course any politician suggesting so would be commiting career suicide. .
Shock, sadness, condoleances when tragedies such as this one and the Sikh Temple shooting happens. Then nothing. Too risky. Then next shooting... going in circles - no balls. Whichever political 'side'.
It's really frustrating not to see any changes being made or even actively discussed after 2 tragedies such as this in such a short time span.
1) A highly regulated system whereas tracking takes place of who buys guns, how many, where etc. so if someone has a huge stockpile there will be a red flag. Gun registration in essence just like with your car (but your car isn't used a murder weapon.
2) gun safety training be mandatory to everyone who owns and buys a gun.
3) make it law that guns and ammo need to be locked up away from harm of children and others.
4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
and that's just a start
I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
but of course any politician suggesting so would be commiting career suicide. .
Shock, sadness, condoleances when tragedies such as this one and the Sikh Temple shooting happens. Then nothing. Too risky. Then next shooting... going in circles - no balls. Whichever political 'side'.
Actually I think it is common sense for the politicians because these shooting
are so incredibly rare and no law will ever make them stop.
There will remain incidents like this always, it would help though for people to empower
themselves and refuse to be victims but there is only so much one can learn and do to prepare.
Like bombings, that will be impossible to control with much worse bloodshed.
So intead of laws maybe common sense and go to the source of ... why so much hate, fear, jealousy, vindictiveness and total disregard for another's feelings
or life as in the case of the thugs who prey on our elderly.
1) A highly regulated system whereas tracking takes place of who buys guns, how many, where etc. so if someone has a huge stockpile there will be a red flag. Gun registration in essence just like with your car (but your car isn't used a murder weapon.
2) gun safety training be mandatory to everyone who owns and buys a gun.
3) make it law that guns and ammo need to be locked up away from harm of children and others.
4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
1) A highly regulated system whereas tracking takes place of who buys guns, how many, where etc. so if someone has a huge stockpile there will be a red flag. Gun registration in essence just like with your car (but your car isn't used a murder weapon.
2) gun safety training be mandatory to everyone who owns and buys a gun.
3) make it law that guns and ammo need to be locked up away from harm of children and others.
4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
and that's just a start
I thought so
you think the system is fine as it is?
I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
It's really frustrating not to see any changes being made or even actively discussed after 2 tragedies such as this in such a short time span.
it will happen again so there will be more chances to put this into public forum..
Well I really hope there won't be more tragedies, but I know there will be more. I'd really like to see more restrictions as we've discussed on here and to continue the conversation on crime in the new thread that was created. Looking at the motivations can certainly help find some solutions, but it is such an involved issue. No easy answers.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
1) A highly regulated system whereas tracking takes place of who buys guns, how many, where etc. so if someone has a huge stockpile there will be a red flag. Gun registration in essence just like with your car (but your car isn't used a murder weapon.
2) gun safety training be mandatory to everyone who owns and buys a gun.
3) make it law that guns and ammo need to be locked up away from harm of children and others.
4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
and that's just a start
I thought so
you think the system is fine as it is?
I think laws need to be enforced first...
it really is your words there though that worry me...
"rambo and that's just a start."
my reluctance...
this one reason why nothing ever goes forward ...
give an inch take a mile theory
my common sense tells me safety training is of the upmost
but I am not for banning any guns, I need to research registering
and more extensive background checks although that would not have stopped
the recent shooters.
I do not own one though, if laws are changed by the majority I will hope they
stop crime but feel that will not be the outcome.
This because I am of a different opinion?
Are you really a therapist cause that was incredibly insensitive?
:shock:
It has absolutely nothing to do with your opinion. There are many people on this forum that share your opinion.
And no...I'm not really a therapist. I just play one on the internet. as an Internet therapist it's my role to give honest feedback, not coddle feelings.
Beautiful CBG, I go to sleep this morning and I have to read a book to catch up by mid evening WOW!
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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I didn't put you down Pandora. I made an objective comment based on my observations about the dynamics on this thread. I'm sorry if you find those observations hurtful, but if you identify with them it might be helpful to explore that further. If you do t identify with them, dismiss them as not pertinent to you. This thread is filled with posts about my knowledge on the topic and my ability to resist responding to condescending comments.
I agree, CBG you respond perfectly well objectively well...it's when one comments are in disagreement they somehow become insulting. Please.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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That's good. So there will be no need to engage with me as if I'm your therapist then. You don't need to accept what I have to say and you don't need to extend your forgiveness. Take in any information (if any) that you think applies to you and discard the rest.
I look forward to continuing the conversation about crime/guns/mental illness with posters who share my opinion as well as those who offer differing points of views.
Awesome and spot on.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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1) A highly regulated system whereas tracking takes place of who buys guns, how many, where etc. so if someone has a huge stockpile there will be a red flag. Gun registration in essence just like with your car (but your car isn't used a murder weapon.
2) gun safety training be mandatory to everyone who owns and buys a gun.
3) make it law that guns and ammo need to be locked up away from harm of children and others.
4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
and that's just a start
I agree except for #4 because that'll NEVER fly in this country. Instead have a waiting period of 3 weeks to get whatever gun one MUST have.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
and that's just a start
I agree except for #4 because that'll NEVER fly in this country. Instead have a waiting period of 3 weeks to get whatever gun one MUST have.
Peace
but it NEEDS to fly. no one ever thought that gay marriage would fly. no one ever thought that women voting would fly. no one ever thought that racial integration would fly. I think it can.
NO ONE, NO ONE, NO ONE needs an automatic weapon of ANY KIND. NO ONE.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
1) A highly regulated system whereas tracking takes place of who buys guns, how many, where etc. so if someone has a huge stockpile there will be a red flag. Gun registration in essence just like with your car (but your car isn't used a murder weapon.
2) gun safety training be mandatory to everyone who owns and buys a gun.
3) make it law that guns and ammo need to be locked up away from harm of children and others.
4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
and that's just a start
ill add at number 1 that all guns must be in a list with the owner and all the serial number of the guns he owns,+how many ammo he has at his position..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Sorry, the people that buy their guns legally and then go on rampages have ruined it for all of you. Tough shit.
I guess everyone who drives drunk, impaired, speeds, runs red lights, texts while driving, talks on their cell phone, falls asleep at the wheel, fails to pay attention, etc. and kills and/or injures someone and who buys their cars legally and obtains their driver's licenses legally have ruined it for everyone as well right? Just using your logic. I guess five people killed in a speeding accident isn't as important or socially relevant to five people killed by some random wacko? It doesn't make good press or isn't highly debatable on TV when running for office. It's just not sexy. BTW...there will be CONSIDERABLY MORE people killed by autos tomorrow not only in numbers but percentage of population. But screw those people...I want my car....I'm not riding a bus! There will also be more people killed by noxious gases tomrrow in th US than by firearm...legal or illegal. Ban the cars and noxious gases!!!!!
NO ONE, NO ONE, NO ONE needs an automatic weapon of ANY KIND. NO ONE.
I do believe that automatic firearms manufactured after 1986 are actually illegal to sell in the US and banned from private ownership. I'll have to check on that but I'm fairly sure I'm correct. As far as your "need" to own...some people like them to fire and use at the gun range or just to have...I'll bring it back to my major point in this thread....does anyone need a car that can go 190MPH? Those cars are legal right? WHo and why would you need that? :corn:
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4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
and that's just a start
I agree except for #4 because that'll NEVER fly in this country. Instead have a waiting period of 3 weeks to get whatever gun one MUST have.
Peace
but it NEEDS to fly. no one ever thought that gay marriage would fly. no one ever thought that women voting would fly. no one ever thought that racial integration would fly. I think it can.
NO ONE, NO ONE, NO ONE needs an automatic weapon of ANY KIND. NO ONE.
Yes i know it does but this the USA and gun lovers of America won't let it happen. they say this is the start of a slippery slope of taking away our guns. Your point is well taken and it would be lovely if this could come to fruition but unfortunately some major major tragedy would have to happen with an automatic weapon for this elimination to come to an end.
peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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Gosh what would you guys do without someone of the opposite opinion?
like me, to then eventually insult when you have lost the debate...
so many involved too I should be honored I guess.
All the complaining you do about me well why not just ignore?
Hey its obvious I am strong I can take it ...
doesn't bother me... but you guys know that my moving train peeps
I will always give my opinion and stick up for what I believe,
and people have the right to protect their lives against bad guys, and no we don't need new laws enforce the ones we got!
Pandora you have repeated enforce the laws that we currently have. Ok fine, I just last week looked up buying a 22 caliber smallbore rifle for target shooting at my local gun club. I'm doing so just to see if can shoot as well as I once did back 30 years on my school's rifleteam. All I needed was my credit or debit card...no background check, no waiting period, no registration etc and it'll be at my door in 6 days.
I have 2 teens both 16 and they both have a debit cards they could make the very same order. Now if you had your 16 year old son or grandson he could also make the same order would you want him to have the same capability to order this rifle? I hope to order this from here in Florida...there's absolutely NOTHING, NOTHING to ENFORCE.
What would you do with your son possibly wanting to make this rifle order?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
....does anyone need a car that can go 190MPH? Those cars are legal right? WHo and why would you need that? :corn:
you are right, no one does. I have often made the point that one major reason why I think the human race is completely retarded is that we have speed limits yet let people buy cars that go 200 km/h. It makes absolutely no sense. Cars should be able to go no faster than 100 km/h. If that.
not to mention designing two way traffic on a highway. that's just asking for trouble. yes, the roads were designed in the days of horse and buggy. which makes it even more imperative that it be updated. just like the second ammendment.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Yes i know it does but this the USA and gun lovers of America won't let it happen. they say this is the start of a slippery slope of taking away our guns. Your point is well taken and it would be lovely if this could come to fruition but unfortunately some major major tragedy would have to happen with an automatic weapon for this elimination to come to an end.
peace
totally agree, and that's the saddest part of all.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Sorry, the people that buy their guns legally and then go on rampages have ruined it for all of you. Tough shit.
I guess everyone who drives drunk, impaired, speeds, runs red lights, texts while driving, talks on their cell phone, falls asleep at the wheel, fails to pay attention, etc. and kills and/or injures someone and who buys their cars legally and obtains their driver's licenses legally have ruined it for everyone as well right? Just using your logic. I guess five people killed in a speeding accident isn't as important or socially relevant to five people killed by some random wacko? It doesn't make good press or isn't highly debatable on TV when running for office. It's just not sexy. BTW...there will be CONSIDERABLY MORE people killed by autos tomorrow not only in numbers but percentage of population. But screw those people...I want my car....I'm not riding a bus! There will also be more people killed by noxious gases tomrrow in th US than by firearm...legal or illegal. Ban the cars and noxious gases!!!!!
Do you seriously think there is no need for gun restrictions or are you playing devil's advocate?
The amount of driving that occurs on a daily basis makes each automobile accident cosmically insignificant- not to mention that vehicles have an actual purpose in life other than killing things or shooting beer cans. They are pretty much necessary whereas guns, well, I would be so bold as to suggest they are nothing more than 'really cool toys' or worse for many.
If we were to take the opposite extreme argument, then why aren't hand grenades, land mines, and nerve gas legal as well? There must be a line somewhere. The post you responded to said the current line gets crossed way too much for responsible society's liking. The time has come- it actually did quite a while ago. Canada recognized it. A country well-known for hunting and fishing accepted gun legislation knowing full well that it was the right thing to do. We haven't looked back at that day and cursed it. The government hasn't overrun us with tyranny. Invaders have not invaded us and left us powerless to defend ourselves. And, as a positive spinoff, accidental deaths and bloody mayhem (with exceptions of course) are not a very common occurence.
Don't get me wrong... I think responsible gun ownership is a right; however, I think the current free-for-all is a recipe for disaster. And, we've seen this recipe come to fruition over and over again- and will continue to do so. I guess some just figure it's very likely not them or theirs that will end up in the crosshairs on those black moments and given this mentality... choose to gamble on 'liberty' instead of safeguarding their loved ones?
The world has always been a violent place...I doubt it's much different today than a 100 years ago or 500 hundred years ago...we just hear about it more because of the media.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The world has always been a violent place...I doubt it's much different today than a 100 years ago or 500 hundred years ago...we just hear about it more because of the media.
yes it is, but do we have to make it easier for the offenders? you'd think with evolution that we'd get SMARTER and more peaceful.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Engage like you are my therapist, comical,
that probably helps in your line of work a sense of humor...me too.
There are some with no sense of humor really I find in life
well unless they are making someone the burnt of a joke. Snide remarks and such.
Not sure why you think I was relying on your profession I actually questioned it I think :?
I am always ready to admit if I misunderstood someone though and took something personal
not directed at me.
I think most people here can do that.... don't you think?
Hey explain how someone, not me of course, was being Narcissistic in the thread,
seeing that you brought that up...
Isn't that vanity like those with a picture of themselves as their avatars?
I have never really understood that term or the personality...
not knowing anyone like that.
But wait thats off topic... though you brought it up we better not carry that further...
I'll google I guess. Learn a little about shh-tuff or you could pm me with
what brought that conclusion.
I too am awaiting what they discover about James Holmes, if he is indeed a schizophrenic
or one having a thought disorder, as so many trained professionals have eluded to.
I hope they don't try to fry him anyways... that's my fear.
wow! you really do scrape the bottom of the barrel (for entertainment purposes) don't you?
nice jab @ cbg and whomever else.
having one's picture as their avatar is perfectly acceptable as that is who the hell they are.
The world has always been a violent place...I doubt it's much different today than a 100 years ago or 500 hundred years ago...we just hear about it more because of the media.
yes it is, but do we have to make it easier for the offenders? you'd think with evolution that we'd get SMARTER and more peaceful.
No we don't have to...I've long given up thinking the world would get more peaceful, it seems to be getting more violent.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
it will happen again so there will be more chances to put this into public forum..
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
that probably helps in your line of work a sense of humor...me too.
There are some with no sense of humor really I find in life
well unless they are making someone the burnt of a joke. Snide remarks and such.
Not sure why you think I was relying on your profession I actually questioned it I think :?
I am always ready to admit if I misunderstood someone though and took something personal
not directed at me.
I think most people here can do that.... don't you think?
Hey explain how someone, not me of course, was being Narcissistic in the thread,
seeing that you brought that up...
Isn't that vanity like those with a picture of themselves as their avatars?
I have never really understood that term or the personality...
not knowing anyone like that.
But wait thats off topic... though you brought it up we better not carry that further...
I'll google I guess. Learn a little about shh-tuff or you could pm me with
what brought that conclusion.
I too am awaiting what they discover about James Holmes, if he is indeed a schizophrenic
or one having a thought disorder, as so many trained professionals have eluded to.
I hope they don't try to fry him anyways... that's my fear.
1) A highly regulated system whereas tracking takes place of who buys guns, how many, where etc. so if someone has a huge stockpile there will be a red flag. Gun registration in essence just like with your car (but your car isn't used a murder weapon.
2) gun safety training be mandatory to everyone who owns and buys a gun.
3) make it law that guns and ammo need to be locked up away from harm of children and others.
4) ban the use of all semi automated weapons.. no point to have these unless you are either tony montana or rambo.
and that's just a start
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
are so incredibly rare and no law will ever make them stop.
There will remain incidents like this always, it would help though for people to empower
themselves and refuse to be victims but there is only so much one can learn and do to prepare.
Like bombings, that will be impossible to control with much worse bloodshed.
So intead of laws maybe common sense and go to the source of ...
why so much hate, fear, jealousy, vindictiveness and total disregard for another's feelings
or life as in the case of the thugs who prey on our elderly.
I thought so
you think the system is fine as it is?
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
it really is your words there though that worry me...
"rambo and that's just a start."
my reluctance...
this one reason why nothing ever goes forward ...
give an inch take a mile theory
my common sense tells me safety training is of the upmost
but I am not for banning any guns, I need to research registering
and more extensive background checks although that would not have stopped
the recent shooters.
I do not own one though, if laws are changed by the majority I will hope they
stop crime but feel that will not be the outcome.
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
Beautiful CBG, I go to sleep this morning and I have to read a book to catch up by mid evening WOW!
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
That was too funny JP TOO funny.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I agree, CBG you respond perfectly well objectively well...it's when one comments are in disagreement they somehow become insulting. Please.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Awesome and spot on.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I agree except for #4 because that'll NEVER fly in this country. Instead have a waiting period of 3 weeks to get whatever gun one MUST have.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
but it NEEDS to fly. no one ever thought that gay marriage would fly. no one ever thought that women voting would fly. no one ever thought that racial integration would fly. I think it can.
NO ONE, NO ONE, NO ONE needs an automatic weapon of ANY KIND. NO ONE.
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I guess everyone who drives drunk, impaired, speeds, runs red lights, texts while driving, talks on their cell phone, falls asleep at the wheel, fails to pay attention, etc. and kills and/or injures someone and who buys their cars legally and obtains their driver's licenses legally have ruined it for everyone as well right?
I do believe that automatic firearms manufactured after 1986 are actually illegal to sell in the US and banned from private ownership. I'll have to check on that but I'm fairly sure I'm correct. As far as your "need" to own...some people like them to fire and use at the gun range or just to have...I'll bring it back to my major point in this thread....does anyone need a car that can go 190MPH? Those cars are legal right? WHo and why would you need that? :corn:
Yes i know it does but this the USA and gun lovers of America won't let it happen. they say this is the start of a slippery slope of taking away our guns. Your point is well taken and it would be lovely if this could come to fruition but unfortunately some major major tragedy would have to happen with an automatic weapon for this elimination to come to an end.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Pandora you have repeated enforce the laws that we currently have. Ok fine, I just last week looked up buying a 22 caliber smallbore rifle for target shooting at my local gun club. I'm doing so just to see if can shoot as well as I once did back 30 years on my school's rifleteam. All I needed was my credit or debit card...no background check, no waiting period, no registration etc and it'll be at my door in 6 days.
I have 2 teens both 16 and they both have a debit cards they could make the very same order. Now if you had your 16 year old son or grandson he could also make the same order would you want him to have the same capability to order this rifle? I hope to order this from here in Florida...there's absolutely NOTHING, NOTHING to ENFORCE.
What would you do with your son possibly wanting to make this rifle order?
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
you are right, no one does. I have often made the point that one major reason why I think the human race is completely retarded is that we have speed limits yet let people buy cars that go 200 km/h. It makes absolutely no sense. Cars should be able to go no faster than 100 km/h. If that.
not to mention designing two way traffic on a highway. that's just asking for trouble. yes, the roads were designed in the days of horse and buggy. which makes it even more imperative that it be updated. just like the second ammendment.
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totally agree, and that's the saddest part of all.
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Do you seriously think there is no need for gun restrictions or are you playing devil's advocate?
The amount of driving that occurs on a daily basis makes each automobile accident cosmically insignificant- not to mention that vehicles have an actual purpose in life other than killing things or shooting beer cans. They are pretty much necessary whereas guns, well, I would be so bold as to suggest they are nothing more than 'really cool toys' or worse for many.
If we were to take the opposite extreme argument, then why aren't hand grenades, land mines, and nerve gas legal as well? There must be a line somewhere. The post you responded to said the current line gets crossed way too much for responsible society's liking. The time has come- it actually did quite a while ago. Canada recognized it. A country well-known for hunting and fishing accepted gun legislation knowing full well that it was the right thing to do. We haven't looked back at that day and cursed it. The government hasn't overrun us with tyranny. Invaders have not invaded us and left us powerless to defend ourselves. And, as a positive spinoff, accidental deaths and bloody mayhem (with exceptions of course) are not a very common occurence.
Don't get me wrong... I think responsible gun ownership is a right; however, I think the current free-for-all is a recipe for disaster. And, we've seen this recipe come to fruition over and over again- and will continue to do so. I guess some just figure it's very likely not them or theirs that will end up in the crosshairs on those black moments and given this mentality... choose to gamble on 'liberty' instead of safeguarding their loved ones?
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
yes it is, but do we have to make it easier for the offenders? you'd think with evolution that we'd get SMARTER and more peaceful.
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wow! you really do scrape the bottom of the barrel (for entertainment purposes) don't you?
nice jab @ cbg and whomever else.
having one's picture as their avatar is perfectly acceptable as that is who the hell they are.
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I am tired; my heart is
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No we don't have to...I've long given up thinking the world would get more peaceful, it seems to be getting more violent.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
yeah, that comment really made me :?
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