People like this...

DS1119

---really piss me off. If you really had somewhere to be just answer the question and move on. Don't tie up the checkpoints with your video camera setup and your overhead visor conveniently removed so we get a clear shot of the officers. These checkpoints are setup for a reason. This is not nazi Germany. They are looking for illegal immigrants...a real problem in this country. Some times a little of your personal freedom needs to be given up for the benefit of others.

I wondered if the guy filming this trying to make a point and prove his freedom in the country was realizing he was infringing on other people by slowing them down just being an asshole?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnf6rmnTlIM

inmytree

I think this guy is awesome...good for him...

DS1119

inmytree wrote:

I think this guy is awesome...good for him...

Get behind 10 people who want be like him while your waiting to pass through and see if you have the same feelings. A simple interview process that should have taken 15-20 seconds he truned into 2.5 minutes at each checkpoint.

keeponrockin

I like what this guy is doing. Why should the police have the right to randomly ask if you're a citizen?

DS1119

keeponrockin wrote:

I like what this guy is doing. Why should the police have the right to randomly ask if you're a citizen?

Because that is the law in some areas. Why should I stop at a DWI checkpoint?

BinauralJam

Awesome! i love when he grunts back at the officer.

cincybearcat

BinauralJam wrote:

Awesome! i love when he grunts back at the officer.

Why?

personally, I think this guy has a great point. But, the officers also treated him with a great amount of respect throughout the process. They have to follow the current law and this is their job. So, actually, the grunting back at the officer was the only part I felt was immature and stupid.

inmytree

DS1119 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

I think this guy is awesome...good for him...

Get behind 10 people who want be like him while your waiting to pass through and see if you have the same feelings. A simple interview process that should have taken 15-20 seconds he truned into 2.5 minutes at each checkpoint.

so your issue is waiting in line vs. whether or not one should have to prove they're a citizen...

I'll wait in line...

inmytree

cincybearcat wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

Awesome! i love when he grunts back at the officer.

Why?

personally, I think this guy has a great point. But, the officers also treated him with a great amount of respect throughout the process. They have to follow the current law and this is their job. So, actually, the grunting back at the officer was the only part I felt was immature and stupid.

I do agree the grunting at the officer and tossing "nazi" into the conversation is over the top...

stargirl69

I think he was behaving like a complete wanker.

DS1119

inmytree wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

I think this guy is awesome...good for him...

Get behind 10 people who want be like him while your waiting to pass through and see if you have the same feelings. A simple interview process that should have taken 15-20 seconds he truned into 2.5 minutes at each checkpoint.

so your issue is waiting in line vs. whether or not one should have to prove they're a citizen...

I'll wait in line...

No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time of his and other people behind him being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?

JonnyPistachio

Is that Matthew Fox from Lost? cause he's just mad about that last DUI.

inmytree

DS1119 wrote:

No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?

I don't agree that one should be randomly stopped and asked to prove citizenship...even in areas high illegal immigration...

and your ticket analogy does fit here....sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...

BinauralJam

cincybearcat wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

Awesome! i love when he grunts back at the officer.

Why?

personally, I think this guy has a great point. But, the officers also treated him with a great amount of respect throughout the process. They have to follow the current law and this is their job. So, actually, the grunting back at the officer was the only part I felt was immature and stupid.

he gave what he got, the officer grunting was immature and stupid

DS1119

inmytree wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?

I don't agree that one should be randomly stopped and asked to prove citizenship...even in areas high illegal immigration...

and your ticket analogy does fit here....sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...

SO you don't agree with DWI checkpoints then? Or checkpoints where they just check to make sure your inspection and registration is current?

DS1119

inmytree wrote:

.sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...

Actually in New York where I am and a lot of Northeastern states you do buy a ticket to drive on the highways.


And to further that point, your ticket to drive on the highways is your license. So yes, you do buy a ticket and by law you have to show it to a law enforcement officer whenever it's demanded and you're driving.

inmytree

DS1119 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?

I don't agree that one should be randomly stopped and asked to prove citizenship...even in areas high illegal immigration...

and your ticket analogy does fit here....sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...

SO you don't agree with DWI checkpoints then? Or checkpoints where they just check to make sure your inspection and registration is current?

no and no

DS1119

inmytree wrote:

no and no

They should stop passenger scanning at airports too right.

inmytree

DS1119 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

.sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...

Actually in New York where I am and a lot of Northeastern states you do buy a ticket to drive on the highways.

are you talking about a toll...?

not sure what that has to do with being stopped and being asked to show you citizenship...

inmytree

DS1119 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

no and no

They should stop passenger scanning at airports too right.

no they shouldn't...

not everything is the same thing...

you know that, right...?

DS1119

inmytree wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

no and no

They should stop passenger scanning at airports too right.

no they shouldn't...

not everything is the same thing...

you know that, right...?

Finding illegal immigrants is a real problem and this can help. Just like finding potential terrorists at an airport is a real problem. Anyone that has an issue answering a law enforcement's question about your citzenship and wants to make it some type of "rights issue" is just an asshole. Answer the question and move on. Oh my God, the horrer...it may actually remove some illegals...the horror!