People like this...

DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
edited July 2012 in A Moving Train
---really piss me off. If you really had somewhere to be just answer the question and move on. Don't tie up the checkpoints with your video camera setup and your overhead visor conveniently removed so we get a clear shot of the officers. These checkpoints are setup for a reason. This is not nazi Germany. They are looking for illegal immigrants...a real problem in this country. Some times a little of your personal freedom needs to be given up for the benefit of others.

I wondered if the guy filming this trying to make a point and prove his freedom in the country was realizing he was infringing on other people by slowing them down just being an asshole?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnf6rmnTlIM
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    I think this guy is awesome...good for him...
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    inmytree wrote:
    I think this guy is awesome...good for him...


    Get behind 10 people who want be like him while your waiting to pass through and see if you have the same feelings. A simple interview process that should have taken 15-20 seconds he truned into 2.5 minutes at each checkpoint. :lol:
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I like what this guy is doing. Why should the police have the right to randomly ask if you're a citizen?
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    I like what this guy is doing. Why should the police have the right to randomly ask if you're a citizen?


    Because that is the law in some areas. Why should I stop at a DWI checkpoint?
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Awesome! i love when he grunts back at the officer.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    Awesome! i love when he grunts back at the officer.

    Why?

    personally, I think this guy has a great point. But, the officers also treated him with a great amount of respect throughout the process. They have to follow the current law and this is their job. So, actually, the grunting back at the officer was the only part I felt was immature and stupid.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    edited July 2012
    DS1119 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    I think this guy is awesome...good for him...


    Get behind 10 people who want be like him while your waiting to pass through and see if you have the same feelings. A simple interview process that should have taken 15-20 seconds he truned into 2.5 minutes at each checkpoint. :lol:

    so your issue is waiting in line vs. whether or not one should have to prove they're a citizen...

    I'll wait in line...
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Awesome! i love when he grunts back at the officer.

    Why?

    personally, I think this guy has a great point. But, the officers also treated him with a great amount of respect throughout the process. They have to follow the current law and this is their job. So, actually, the grunting back at the officer was the only part I felt was immature and stupid.

    I do agree the grunting at the officer and tossing "nazi" into the conversation is over the top...
  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    I think he was behaving like a complete wanker.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    edited July 2012
    inmytree wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    I think this guy is awesome...good for him...


    Get behind 10 people who want be like him while your waiting to pass through and see if you have the same feelings. A simple interview process that should have taken 15-20 seconds he truned into 2.5 minutes at each checkpoint. :lol:

    so your issue is waiting in line vs. whether or not one should have to prove they're a citizen...

    I'll wait in line...


    No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time of his and other people behind him being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Is that Matthew Fox from Lost? cause he's just mad about that last DUI.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    DS1119 wrote:


    No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?

    I don't agree that one should be randomly stopped and asked to prove citizenship...even in areas high illegal immigration...

    and your ticket analogy does fit here....sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Awesome! i love when he grunts back at the officer.

    Why?

    personally, I think this guy has a great point. But, the officers also treated him with a great amount of respect throughout the process. They have to follow the current law and this is their job. So, actually, the grunting back at the officer was the only part I felt was immature and stupid.

    he gave what he got, the officer grunting was immature and stupid
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    inmytree wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:


    No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?

    I don't agree that one should be randomly stopped and asked to prove citizenship...even in areas high illegal immigration...

    and your ticket analogy does fit here....sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...


    SO you don't agree with DWI checkpoints then? :lol: Or checkpoints where they just check to make sure your inspection and registration is current?
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    edited July 2012
    inmytree wrote:
    .sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...


    Actually in New York where I am and a lot of Northeastern states you do buy a ticket to drive on the highways.


    And to further that point, your ticket to drive on the highways is your license. So yes, you do buy a ticket and by law you have to show it to a law enforcement officer whenever it's demanded and you're driving.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    DS1119 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:


    No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?

    I don't agree that one should be randomly stopped and asked to prove citizenship...even in areas high illegal immigration...

    and your ticket analogy does fit here....sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...


    SO you don't agree with DWI checkpoints then? :lol: Or checkpoints where they just check to make sure your inspection and registration is current?

    no and no
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    inmytree wrote:

    no and no


    They should stop passenger scanning at airports too right. :lol:
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    DS1119 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    .sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...


    Actually in New York where I am and a lot of Northeastern states you do buy a ticket to drive on the highways.

    are you talking about a toll...?

    not sure what that has to do with being stopped and being asked to show you citizenship...
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    DS1119 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:

    no and no


    They should stop passenger scanning at airports too right. :lol:

    no they shouldn't...

    not everything is the same thing...

    you know that, right...?
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    inmytree wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:

    no and no


    They should stop passenger scanning at airports too right. :lol:

    no they shouldn't...

    not everything is the same thing...

    you know that, right...?

    Finding illegal immigrants is a real problem and this can help. Just like finding potential terrorists at an airport is a real problem. Anyone that has an issue answering a law enforcement's question about your citzenship and wants to make it some type of "rights issue" is just an asshole. Answer the question and move on. Oh my God, the horrer...it may actually remove some illegals...the horror! :lol:
  • if he has a good point his attempt to prove it is misguided. He isn't hurting the process at all he is only hurting the poor bastards who are doing their jobs and the really poor bastards who are stuck behind him. What exactly are you trying to prove by refusing to get out of the way of other motorists while we discuss you disagreement with this checkpoint mess?

    fail
  • LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    stargirl69 wrote:
    I think he was behaving like a bloody wanker.
    fixed :D
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    DS1119 wrote:

    Finding illegal immigrants is a real problem and this can help. Just like finding potential terrorists at an airport is a real problem. Anyone that has an issue answering a law enforcement's question about your citzenship and wants to make it some type of "rights issue" is just an asshole. Answer the question and move on. Oh my God, the horrer...it may actually remove some illegals...the horror! :lol:


    you keep changing your reasons for disliking this fellow...

    Personally I don't think illegal immigrants are the boogeymen that you think they are...

    if I'm not doing anything wrong, i.e. driving down the road and obeying all laws...I should be pestered by law enforcement...
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,021
    inmytree wrote:
    I think this guy is awesome...good for him...
    I think he's a jackass. He should focus his righteousness somewhere useful. Doesn't matter what anyone's opinion is about illegals. They are illegal, and the law is trying to sort it out by citizenship at checkpoints. I don't see the problem. This guy thinks he's hot shit for standing up to the Man, but I think what he's doing is pointless. He's just making that offer's job difficult and holding up traffic even more. Whatever point he's trying to make is completely lost. I fully appreciate people standing for their principles, but only when what they're doing makes sense.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    inmytree wrote:

    if I'm not doing anything wrong, i.e. driving down the road and obeying all laws...I should be pestered by law enforcement...


    Well unfortunately sometimes an individual will need to be "pestered" for the good of society and if answering a law officer's question about my citizenship when I'm in that particular country is considered being pestered than that's fine with me.

    And about the illegal immingrant issue. Move along the southern border...California, Arizona, Texas, etc. and tell me then it's not an issue. :lol:
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Good on him
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    love him! that dude's the shit
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    chadwick wrote:
    love him! that dude's the shit

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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    DS1119 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:


    No not at all. He wants to be an asshole complaining about how long he had to wait in line fine, I just find it ironic instead of just answering the question and moving along becasue he was "so busy" he chose to sit at the checkpoints and waste more time being an asshole. I don't think it's out of line for citizens to show proof of their citzenship in areas of high illegal immigration. As a matter of fact, I don't see a problem with it anywhere. I go to the movies I have a ticket. I leave and go to the concessions, I may have to show the ticket again for readmission. I just don't see the problem that some people are creating with this policy. :?

    I don't agree that one should be randomly stopped and asked to prove citizenship...even in areas high illegal immigration...

    and your ticket analogy does fit here....sorry...I don't by a ticket to drive on a public highway...


    SO you don't agree with DWI checkpoints then?

    "However, in a split decision, the U.S. Supreme Court reversed the Michigan court. Although acknowledging that such roadblocks violate a fundamental constitutional right, Chief Justice Rehnquist argued that they are necessary in order to reduce drunk driving"

    That is disappointing

    http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/drivin ... 63004.html
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497


    SO you don't agree with DWI checkpoints then?

    "However, in a split decision, the U.S. Supreme Court reversed the Michigan court. Although acknowledging that such roadblocks violate a fundamental constitutional right, Chief Justice Rehnquist argued that they are necessary in order to reduce drunk driving"

    That is disappointing

    http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/drivin ... 63004.html[/quote]


    This isn't against you but as a political science major I really hate when modern issues try to get translated word for word by documents that were written hundreds of years ago. Like people arguing that you should be allowed to talk/text when driving because it's freedom of speech and all that blah blah blah. :fp:

    Plain and simple for me. Road blocks aren't a bad thing. If you're doing nothing wrong, you have no worries. I guess the point of me posting the video was the irony that all the guy kept saying was how busy he is but yet instead of just saying yes I'm a US citizen and being on his way, he wanted to make up "his circus" and be a wiseass in the process.
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