Water guns banned, REAL guns, OK....
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Water Guns Banned, Handguns Allowed at GOP Convention
http://news.yahoo.com/water-guns-banned ... itics.html
In the politically-charged and likely protest-filled streets of Tampa, Fla., during the Republican National Convention in August, water guns will be strictly prohibited. Concealed handguns, on the other hand, will be perfectly legal.
Florida Gov. Rick Scott said this week that banning handguns from downtown Tampa during the convention, as the city's Mayor Bob Buckhorn requested, "would surely violate the Second Amendment."
"It is unclear how disarming law-abiding citizens would better protect them from the dangers and threats posed by those who would flout the law," Scott said in a letter to Buckhorn Tuesday, emphasizing the words "law-abiding." "It is at just such times that the constitutional right of self defense is most precious and must be protected from government overreach."
Buckhorn said today that he was "disappointed" by Scott's decision, but that the city will "plan and train accordingly."
Tampa officials are expecting thousands of protesters to descend on the Florida metropolis for the GOP convention. While no handguns will be allowed inside the convention, which is being protected by the Secret Service, concealed carry license-holders will be able to carry their weapons in the streets surrounding the convention.
They will not, however, be able to have "super soaker" water guns, sticks, poles, portable shields or glass bottles.
Buckhorn said last month that the state law, which prohibits the city from temporarily banning handguns, makes the city "look silly" because officials can prohibit water guns but not real ones, The Associated Press reported.
"There is no reason to have a concealed firearm in downtown Tampa that week," Buckhorn said in Wednesday's statement. "And, to be clear, I am far less concerned with those who have concealed weapons permits than the ones who may somehow acquire a weapon and use it to create mayhem."
James Davis, a spokesman for the Republican National Convention, said party officials are not worried that concealed handguns will create security problems.
"We think we are going to have a safe and successful convention," Davis said. "The local police and Secret Service will make sure of that."
The city plans to have 4,000 law enforcement personnel in the downtown area during the party convention, a move Buckhorn said would create "safe environment" where "a firearm should not be necessary for self-defense."
The Republican National Convention will be held at the Tampa Bay Times Arena, Aug. 27-30.
this is why the rest of the world laughs at us...
Water Guns Banned, Handguns Allowed at GOP Convention
http://news.yahoo.com/water-guns-banned ... itics.html
In the politically-charged and likely protest-filled streets of Tampa, Fla., during the Republican National Convention in August, water guns will be strictly prohibited. Concealed handguns, on the other hand, will be perfectly legal.
Florida Gov. Rick Scott said this week that banning handguns from downtown Tampa during the convention, as the city's Mayor Bob Buckhorn requested, "would surely violate the Second Amendment."
"It is unclear how disarming law-abiding citizens would better protect them from the dangers and threats posed by those who would flout the law," Scott said in a letter to Buckhorn Tuesday, emphasizing the words "law-abiding." "It is at just such times that the constitutional right of self defense is most precious and must be protected from government overreach."
Buckhorn said today that he was "disappointed" by Scott's decision, but that the city will "plan and train accordingly."
Tampa officials are expecting thousands of protesters to descend on the Florida metropolis for the GOP convention. While no handguns will be allowed inside the convention, which is being protected by the Secret Service, concealed carry license-holders will be able to carry their weapons in the streets surrounding the convention.
They will not, however, be able to have "super soaker" water guns, sticks, poles, portable shields or glass bottles.
Buckhorn said last month that the state law, which prohibits the city from temporarily banning handguns, makes the city "look silly" because officials can prohibit water guns but not real ones, The Associated Press reported.
"There is no reason to have a concealed firearm in downtown Tampa that week," Buckhorn said in Wednesday's statement. "And, to be clear, I am far less concerned with those who have concealed weapons permits than the ones who may somehow acquire a weapon and use it to create mayhem."
James Davis, a spokesman for the Republican National Convention, said party officials are not worried that concealed handguns will create security problems.
"We think we are going to have a safe and successful convention," Davis said. "The local police and Secret Service will make sure of that."
The city plans to have 4,000 law enforcement personnel in the downtown area during the party convention, a move Buckhorn said would create "safe environment" where "a firearm should not be necessary for self-defense."
The Republican National Convention will be held at the Tampa Bay Times Arena, Aug. 27-30.
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you ever been shot in the eye with pee gimme??? thats what they put in those very dangerous waterguns you know. either that or hot sauce.
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Part of the ludicrousness is in how the headline was worded...seems silly to me too at first glance. But then reading what else is included in the ban along with water guns - those other items that can cause injury as well - it makes sense keeping them away from what could be a hot environment.
The non-banning of real firearms seems to just be adhering to Florida state law.
(catefrances, there's a woman out here who was sprayed during a DUI stop with a high-power pepper-spray gun and has lost her sight in both eyes...not to take away from the damage that true guns can inflict, but those too can do some mighty harm)0 -
Quite a country...This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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ComeToTX wrote:Quite a country...
...and I live in this beautiful and politically charged state.
That said who knows what they could put in a water gun but with real bullets and a real gun you KNOW what you are going to get.
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at what point does the second amendment trump my first amendment right to free speech and freedom of assembly? because that is certainly what appears to be happening in this situation..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:at what point does the second amendment trump my first amendment right to free speech and freedom of assembly? because that is certainly what appears to be happening in this situation...
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its all in how you look at it.mikepegg44 wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:at what point does the second amendment trump my first amendment right to free speech and freedom of assembly? because that is certainly what appears to be happening in this situation...
how?
it is ok to bring real guns that can kill people to a protest and a convention, but you can't take a water gun. what is more of a threat, getting doused with pepper spray or getting your head blown off? to me it seems that real guns being allowed there could only inflame tensions. the threat of real guns being there will also intimidate people from actively taking part in the demonstration, and this intimidation is squelching free speech and freedom of assembly. all because the people with the real guns have the real power in that situation."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:
its all in how you look at it.mikepegg44 wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:at what point does the second amendment trump my first amendment right to free speech and freedom of assembly? because that is certainly what appears to be happening in this situation...
how?
it is ok to bring real guns that can kill people to a protest and a convention, but you can't take a water gun. what is more of a threat, getting doused with pepper spray or getting your head blown off? to me it seems that real guns being allowed there could only inflame tensions. the threat of real guns being there will also intimidate people from actively taking part in the demonstration, and this intimidation is squelching free speech and freedom of assembly. all because the people with the real guns have the real power in that situation.
Good point.
Though the guns will be concealed. They are already allowed on the streets. I am sure there have been previous protests in Tampa.
Protesters could have conceal and carry permits as well.that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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Why would anybody take a super soaker to a convention?0
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I don't mean to insult America, but for all its greatness, there sure is a whole lot of idiocy to go around.
can someone please tell me the purpose of a CONCEALED weapon?Gimli 1993
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:I don't mean to insult America, but for all its greatness, there sure is a whole lot of idiocy to go around.
can someone please tell me the purpose of a CONCEALED weapon?
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Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:I don't mean to insult America, but for all its greatness, there sure is a whole lot of idiocy to go around.
can someone please tell me the purpose of a CONCEALED weapon?
the purpose is self defense. You can argue that it isn't needed...I would disagree because put simply and unfortunately for anyone who has to carry them, it isn't needed until it is needed.that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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i could argue that these concealed carry laws allow for people to have a cowboy mentality and thousands of times a year are used for offensive purposes, such as in a the case of a certain neighborhood watchman, but i digress....mikepegg44 wrote:Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:I don't mean to insult America, but for all its greatness, there sure is a whole lot of idiocy to go around.
can someone please tell me the purpose of a CONCEALED weapon?
the purpose is self defense. You can argue that it isn't needed...I would disagree because put simply and unfortunately for anyone who has to carry them, it isn't needed until it is needed.
how about we 1-allow the water guns, 2- disallow real guns, or 3- let everyone bring a real or fake one. whichever they want... it seems that they are giving the concealed carry people more power in this situation.
honestly, do you really need to take a fucking gun into a rah rah rah convention??? jesus..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:I don't mean to insult America, but for all its greatness, there sure is a whole lot of idiocy to go around.
can someone please tell me the purpose of a CONCEALED weapon?
Hugh, it's all about fear, control, paranoia and violence or bad choice of neighborhood. True, sometimes the latter is not a matter of choice but why make a bad neighborhood worse by packing? I don't get it either."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
pandora wrote:Why would anybody take a super soaker to a convention?
why would anyone take a 'real' gun?hear my name
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