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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    Recession?
    The average person wouldn't be able to tell if the economy shrunk .5% or grew .5%
    As a matter of fact, the average person's basic understanding of economics is horrible, which makes it an election issue (when it isn't an issue at all)
    Do you know how little a .5% deflation in the economy matters in a 1.9 Trillion dollar economy?

    I see someone has been drinking the Harper cool-aid ;)

    It's an issue because Harper has tried to make it his #1 issue.He wants to run his whole campaign on the economy. Regardless of a positive or negative .5%......is that anything to be proud of? Something to point to as a strength? If you think it is you're an easy man to please. At the same time the US GDP in the second quarter grew by 3.7%

    I may not be good at math.....or an economics professor......but those numbers don't look that great.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/5-things-to-know-about-the-economy-this-week-8-28-2015/2
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    dignin said:

    1ThoughtKnown said:

    Recession?
    The average person wouldn't be able to tell if the economy shrunk .5% or grew .5%
    As a matter of fact, the average person's basic understanding of economics is horrible, which makes it an election issue (when it isn't an issue at all)
    Do you know how little a .5% deflation in the economy matters in a 1.9 Trillion dollar economy?

    I see someone has been drinking the Harper cool-aid ;)

    It's an issue because Harper has tried to make it his #1 issue.He wants to run his whole campaign on the economy. Regardless of a positive or negative .5%......is that anything to be proud of? Something to point to as a strength? If you think it is you're an easy man to please. At the same time the US GDP in the second quarter grew by 3.7%

    I may not be good at math.....or an economics professor......but those numbers don't look that great.

    Well what numbers would look good to you?
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    dignin said:

    1ThoughtKnown said:

    Recession?
    The average person wouldn't be able to tell if the economy shrunk .5% or grew .5%
    As a matter of fact, the average person's basic understanding of economics is horrible, which makes it an election issue (when it isn't an issue at all)
    Do you know how little a .5% deflation in the economy matters in a 1.9 Trillion dollar economy?

    I see someone has been drinking the Harper cool-aid ;)

    It's an issue because Harper has tried to make it his #1 issue.He wants to run his whole campaign on the economy. Regardless of a positive or negative .5%......is that anything to be proud of? Something to point to as a strength? If you think it is you're an easy man to please. At the same time the US GDP in the second quarter grew by 3.7%

    I may not be good at math.....or an economics professor......but those numbers don't look that great.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/5-things-to-know-about-the-economy-this-week-8-28-2015/2
    I'm not drinking anything, except the gin and soda on my nightstand ;)
    Listen, Harper is making it an issue, Trudeau is making it an issue, Mulcair is making it an issue.
    The government is a steward of the economy, they get too much credit when it is going well, and too much blame when it isn't.
    They want growth around 2.5 percent, its sustainable. It the U.S. Kept growing at 3.7 percent, they would up the interest rates to slow it down.
    People are getting sucked into a non-issue. It's POLITICS and most of the sheep of Canada "drink the koolaid" you are talking about

    Good government keeps corporate tax reasonable, so they hire people to pay taxes (keep in mind the taxes an employee pay come from a corporation) to run the country. Everyone pays.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    GOC - 72%
    NDP - 69%
    LPC - 58%
    CPC - 39%

    (I would never vote Green Party though, unless I had a reason to give them my throw away vote (which I have done once), because I don't have enough faith in their ability to manage the economy properly)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    This little boy`s family had tried to come to Canada.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/syria-migrants-canada-drowned-migrants-1.3213772

    And now it looks like there might be some fallout for Chris Alexander because of this.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-alexander-refugee-crisis-1.3213869

    New Democrat Fin Donnelly, acting in his capacity as MP, said he brought the B.C. family's case to Alexander's attention earlier this year. It was later rejected

    During a Wednesday panel appearance on CBC News Network's Power & Politics, he defended the Harper government's response to the Syrian refugee crisis, and said the media had failed to "put it in the headlines where it deserves to be."

    Well, it looks like Alexander is getting what he wants.....
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    I don't blame the man for rejecting the offer that came WAY too late. Just like the Harper government to deny such a request (a PRIVATE sponsorship for refugees who are relatives of a Canadian resident for god's sake!), and then back pedal only after 3/4 of the family are dead because they wouldn't say yes to a completely reasonable application based on humanitarian necessity. What the fucking fuck??
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    http://cjpme.nationbuilder.com/petition_alexander?utm_campaign=em_2015_09_04&utm_medium=email&utm_source=cjpme
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Drowned Out said:

    http://cjpme.nationbuilder.com/petition_alexander?utm_campaign=em_2015_09_04&utm_medium=email&utm_source=cjpme

    Those attack ad pics are disturbing and very unCanadian.
    Wonder how much Canadian this cjpme group is.
    What stupid ads.
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    I've reached out to the Libertarian Party.
    Looked at their platform online, seems interesting.

    The part where they want to move the Bank of Canada responsibility away from the government is disturbing (although depending how deep you want to look into it, the Bank of Canada might not be a government institution, if you don't believe me do your own research)
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Riding and driving around Victoria and all the associated municipalities, I'm struck by what I'm seeing in terms of election signs. Green Party/Elizabeth May signs are everywhere - no joke, they're just about in every block, on personal property. There are a smattering of Liberal signs. Haven't seen a single NDP sign yet. Until today hadn't seen a Conservative sign either, but today one popped up - on a road median, not in a yard, meaning it was just put there by the party. I know I'm in May's riding and having the party leader in your riding always generates a bit of buzz, even with a small party, but this is really noticeable. What are others seeing in their areas?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited September 2015
    ^^^
    There is a plethora of different party signs where I ride.
    This tells me that people can't make up their mind - very unsettling to me.

    Having lived in Victoria for 14yrs I can understand why you see as many signs as you do for one party.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    There is a plethora of different party signs where I ride.
    This tells me that people can't make up their mind - very unsettling to me.

    Having lived in Victoria for 14yrs I can understand why you see as many signs as you do for one party.

    Diversity of opinion - I can see why you would be rattled.

    I'm not surprised by the proliferation of Green support in Victoria, but I am surprised by the lack of NDP support. Not sure what it was like when you were here, but the Victoria riding (as opposed to the Saanich/Gulf Islands riding) has been an NDP stronghold for quite some time, with occasional Liberal representation; they haven't had a conservative since the '80s.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^^
    It is odd living in an area where people are politically unaware yet signs are everywhere like tulips, every yard has a different coloured sign.
    No one can come to a general stronger opinion of who represents the community it seems(for this election).
    Come election day it is the same mix of diversified opinions that will be complaining about another majority Harper government.

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Harper is not winning a majority... We are heading towards a NDP-Liberal coalition.

    My prediction
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/jerry-bance-marketplace-1.3217797
    :lol:

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Drowned Out said:

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/jerry-bance-marketplace-1.3217797
    :lol:

    And in related news, they have finally dug up a Conservative candidate from under some rock for our riding. Apparently they had to completely scrub his entire social media profile to remove the homophobic comments, so now he has nothing; nothing, that is, except what was screen captured before the scrubbing......
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    oftenreading said:

    Riding and driving around Victoria and all the associated municipalities, I'm struck by what I'm seeing in terms of election signs. Green Party/Elizabeth May signs are everywhere - no joke, they're just about in every block, on personal property. There are a smattering of Liberal signs. Haven't seen a single NDP sign yet. Until today hadn't seen a Conservative sign either, but today one popped up - on a road median, not in a yard, meaning it was just put there by the party. I know I'm in May's riding and having the party leader in your riding always generates a bit of buzz, even with a small party, but this is really noticeable. What are others seeing in their areas?

    I've seen only one sign in my riding here in Calgary, a CON sign. I guess it's just a foregone conclusion that they will win here so the parties are throwing their money at battle riding's in BC and Ontario.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    The Conservatives seem to have had some trouble with their candidate screening mechanism this time around.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/09/07/tim-dutaud-conservative-toronto-danforth_n_8099984.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/09/07/jerry-bance-out-conservative-scarborough_n_8099162.html?utm_hp_ref=canada

    https://rjjago.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/tory-candidate-robert-boyd-do-homosexuals-and-other-sexual-minorities-deserve-special-protection/
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    oftenreading said:

    The Conservatives seem to have had some trouble with their candidate screening mechanism this time around.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/09/07/tim-dutaud-conservative-toronto-danforth_n_8099984.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/09/07/jerry-bance-out-conservative-scarborough_n_8099162.html?utm_hp_ref=canada

    https://rjjago.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/tory-candidate-robert-boyd-do-homosexuals-and-other-sexual-minorities-deserve-special-protection/

    This means nothing as they are no longer conservatives.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    oftenreading said:

    The Conservatives seem to have had some trouble with their candidate screening mechanism this time around.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/09/07/tim-dutaud-conservative-toronto-danforth_n_8099984.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/09/07/jerry-bance-out-conservative-scarborough_n_8099162.html?utm_hp_ref=canada

    https://rjjago.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/tory-candidate-robert-boyd-do-homosexuals-and-other-sexual-minorities-deserve-special-protection/

    This means nothing as they are no longer conservatives.
    Oh, you are a card, PJfan. The only question is, just which card?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
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