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  • ^^^^^

    Cheers mang!! Been a slice. Let's do it again in four years :smiley::hang_loose:

    :no_mouth:
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Love ya, ND!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

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    Do you actually read? You said you didn't so I'm not sure what to actually believe. I mean... I know you talk a lot and find listening a challenge... but you must read a little when you're not drilling for oil.

    Read: The Shock Doctrine (Naomi Klein).
    The only oil I'd be drilling for is in your old lady. I suppose I could read while doing that.
    Nope, not cool. Wtf.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Alright alright. Let's not get the only thread about Canadian politics locked. Christ.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • ^^^^

    If the "resident flagger" (what a thing to be known as) determines I am out of line, so be it. Then if the powers that be determine I deserve "punishment", so be it.
    This is not a democracy, it's a haven of socialists who think the left is right and no one else's opinion matters. It's also a rock bands forum :lol:

    I stand by what I said. There was no need to accuse me of being a rig pig who never read a book. That is the prejudice other Canadians have towards Albertans.
    So you take a shot at me personally? You get one back.
  • dignin said:

    That John Oliver piece was good,and funny. Too bad there are a million idiots out there who will forget it's a joke and Oliver is a comedian :fearful:

    If you've been watching John Oliver and you think his show is a joke....you haven't been paying attention.
    You don't think he is a comedian and the show is a joke? Of course there are some interesting things he brings up, but even he has said in interviews that it's a comedy show, not the news.
    What's amazing to me is you would take anything a bunch of comedy writers throw on television and NOT think its a joke :lol:
    One in a million dignin.
    it's real issues with a comedic sting to it. no different than John Stewart.

    Considering John Oliver was on the Daily Show, that isn't too surprising. Listen, if that's how you get your news,have atter. :grimacing:
    um, not what was said at all.

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    edited October 2015

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    Sure, easy to quote the words of people known for their oratory; too bad your own words are so lacking in class.
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    Do you actually read? You said you didn't so I'm not sure what to actually believe. I mean... I know you talk a lot and find listening a challenge... but you must read a little when you're not drilling for oil.

    Read: The Shock Doctrine (Naomi Klein).
    The only oil I'd be drilling for is in your old lady. I suppose I could read while doing that.
    "rig pig". "old lady".

    true colours. so disgusting.

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  • ^^^^^

    :get_outta_here:
  • I think the important thing to remember is "drilling for oil" is a line from Bushleaguer. To bad some aren't rational enough to see that and just took it literally. Point thirty, on more than one level.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


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  • Best part of tonight, besides that wicked come back, is that democracy is still at work in Canada.
    The voters spoke and now let us see what will happen. Interested in seeing how this stuff works, growing the economy from the heart out and whatnot.
    I am proud to live in a democracy. I am proud that (sometimes) people's opinions can differ and prejudice and racism is minimal.
    And despite what many of you think of me (and yes I like to get people riled up) I respect your position. How you are raised and where you are raised affect your view.
    Strive for the middle!

    I never once provoked anyone on this forum. I merely responded. Imagine being constantly gang tackled for having a different view of the world. It does not make me less worldly, it's that the Canada I want is slightly different than yours.
    The majority has spoken. I will be paying more taxes. My spouse will be paying more taxes. That is the way it goes. Only it will drive me to find a better accountant :lol:

    This is in no way an apology, as this has been my (somewhat) consistent message. It has been refreshing to know that there are people who are passionate about politics in Canada, as so many people seem not to care. My boss was voting for the second time in his life, and was voting for Harper because he "looked like a Prime Minister to me". Wowsers.

    All you Harper haters, he wasn't all bad. I definitely am not really sad to see him go. And so ends this mock conciliatory speech :bow:

    Come on November 4th!!! This is a PJ website right? :wink:
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    I wonder if Trudeau has a team of cleaners heading over to 24 Sussex to wash out the smell of buttweed before he moves in? =)

    It's a joke! ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    I wonder if Trudeau has a team of cleaners heading over to 24 Sussex to wash out the smell of buttweed before he moves in? =)

    It's a joke! ;)

    It takes years to get the buttweed smell out, we barely got the Mulroney buttweed smell out before it was replaced with the Harper buttweed smell.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    PJ_Soul said:

    I wonder if Trudeau has a team of cleaners heading over to 24 Sussex to wash out the smell of buttweed before he moves in? =)

    It's a joke! ;)

    It takes years to get the buttweed smell out, we barely got the Mulroney buttweed smell out before it was replaced with the Harper buttweed smell.
    :lol:

    Well.... i guess at least Canada (and 24 Sussex, probably) will be smelling more like actual weed soon enough now!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I wonder if Trudeau has a team of cleaners heading over to 24 Sussex to wash out the smell of buttweed before he moves in? =)

    It's a joke! ;)

    It takes years to get the buttweed smell out, we barely got the Mulroney buttweed smell out before it was replaced with the Harper buttweed smell.
    :lol:

    Well.... i guess at least Canada (and 24 Sussex, probably) will be smelling more like actual weed soon enough now!
    I'm okay with that.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    Hmmm, there goes that stereotype.
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  • I'M SO HAPPY TODAY.
    BU BYE MISTER HARPER. YOU WILL NOT BE MISSED.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mickeyrat said:

    Hmmm, there goes that stereotype.

    The polite Canadian stereotype? ;)
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,982
    edited October 2015
    what the hell is buttweed?
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  • Well the butt part is pretty self explanatory, the weed part is like a thistle or some thing. Almost impossible to get rid of unless you dig all the way down to the bottom of the root.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    Well the butt part is pretty self explanatory, the weed part is like a thistle or some thing. Almost impossible to get rid of unless you dig all the way down to the bottom of the root.

    Yeah. :)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Well.... I admit that I woke up this morning and actually feeling an extra spring in my step. I know politics are still politics, and we'll be getting down to being pissed off about most of what the government does again soon enough, but not like with Harper. I truly feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders knowing that Harper and his Conservatives aren't at the helm anymore. I'm actually a bit surprised about how ineffably different I feel today compared to yesterday because of it.
    I totally didn't think a Liberal majority was possible because of the left splitting the vote - I think I recently said it would be a minor miracle if this scenario played out. Behold! :tongue: But I guess a lot of other NDPers felt the same way in the end and threw their vote towards not-Harper just like I did.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    Well.... I admit that I woke up this morning and actually feeling an extra spring in my step. I know politics are still politics, and we'll be getting down to being pissed off about most of what the government does again soon enough, but not like with Harper. I truly feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders knowing that Harper and his Conservatives aren't at the helm anymore. I'm actually a bit surprised about how ineffably different I feel today compared to yesterday because of it.
    I totally didn't think a Liberal majority was possible because of the left splitting the vote - I think I recently said it would be a minor miracle if this scenario played out. Behold! :tongue: But I guess a lot of other NDPers felt the same way in the end and threw their vote towards not-Harper just like I did.

    I was shocked at how dismally the NDP fared in this one. from dropping from frontrunner in the beginning to an embarassingly dead last of the big 3 has to be deflating for that party.

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited October 2015

    PJ_Soul said:

    Well.... I admit that I woke up this morning and actually feeling an extra spring in my step. I know politics are still politics, and we'll be getting down to being pissed off about most of what the government does again soon enough, but not like with Harper. I truly feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders knowing that Harper and his Conservatives aren't at the helm anymore. I'm actually a bit surprised about how ineffably different I feel today compared to yesterday because of it.
    I totally didn't think a Liberal majority was possible because of the left splitting the vote - I think I recently said it would be a minor miracle if this scenario played out. Behold! :tongue: But I guess a lot of other NDPers felt the same way in the end and threw their vote towards not-Harper just like I did.

    I was shocked at how dismally the NDP fared in this one. from dropping from frontrunner in the beginning to an embarassingly dead last of the big 3 has to be deflating for that party.

    I was surprised too, but I feel like that happening was the only way Canada would be able to move on from the Harper years, so I was happy to see it in a way, since a majority government is a good result. However, I would have really liked to have seen the NDP get another 10 seats or so. My own riding was one of the VERY close calls that way. It's a long-time NDP riding, but last I looked at the count, the NDP incumbent ended up SQUEAKING past the liberal by only about 400 votes! I think that was ONLY because the Liberal candidate is unnervingly young. If he was 10 years older, the libs would have taken that riding too.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
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    hahahahahahahah!
    "My brain's a good brain!"

  • "courageous leader". Hmmmm.....

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/20/opinions/kennedy-canada-election-bad-news-for-us-conservatives/index.html

    (CNN)—According to the Reputation Institute, it is the "most admired" nation on earth. Immigrants flock there from all over the world -- for the most part politely standing in line for the opportunity.

    Taxes seem to get lower every year and the government runs a surplus. Burdensome regulations have been slashed and the tax code's been rewritten to encourage business investment and pro-family policies. Abroad, it's taking the fight to ISIS with a reinvigorated military, standing side by side with Israel and against aggression from the mullahs of Iran and Vladimir Putin's Russia.

    No, it's not three years into the Marco Rubio administration -- it's present-day Canada, and its courageous leader just got booted out of office after nine years of steadily maneuvering the ship of state.

    The Conservative Party's loss is to the detriment of its neighbors to the south and the world at large, since the Tory leader, Prime Minister Stephen Harper, was defeated by the unprepared, gaffe-prone but well-coiffed son of a former prime minister, Justin Trudeau.

    Harper's fate is all the more shocking when you consider how well Canada weathered the 2008-2009 financial crisis under his watch. He didn't bail out anyone (except the U.S.-based auto industry), no financial institutions failed and the Canadian economy hummed along.

    Part of Harper's success -- and doom -- lies in the commodity markets. With sky-high oil prices and other resources reaching record highs, Canada got rich as other industrial powers paid top dollar (or top loonie, if you will) for the raw materials they needed to grow. As oil prices fell off a cliff, the Canadian economy slowed, even briefly dipping into recession this year. But Harper made the necessary cuts and kept taxes low. Amazingly, he balanced the budget ahead of schedule as the commodity markets nosedived.

    The fickle Canadian voters were tired, though. Tired of the scandals and unforced errors that come with years of unchecked power (Canada's parliamentary system is a unitary executive-legislative branch). Political appointees and friends of Harper's couldn't resist feeding at the taxpayers' trough. Though the trail never led directly to Harper, the scandal only fed a public perception that the cool-to-a-fault, calculating (and yes, even Nixonian) Prime Minister was up to no good.

    Despite their success, Harper's policies, too, seemed to echo the "American" political discourse, a byword for becoming what Canadians fear most -- too much like their rapacious, bellicose and paranoid neighbors to the south. In Canada, identity is tied up in a few things (hockey, universal health care) but none more powerful than a genteel anti-Americanism that tinges every political debate in the Great White North.

    When Harper introduced anti-terror legislation called C-51, or "Canada's Patriot Act," after prominent attacks inspired by radical Islam, the wing nuts of Canada's left came out of the woodwork, painting the Prime Minister as a tyrant in the making.

    His inaction on climate change -- a shrewd move for a near-petro state -- enraged the ecowarriors.

    But the final straw came when Harper took a stand for an inclusive, but fully Westernized and assimilating Canada -- banning the niqab, or face veil, from being worn at citizenship swearing-in ceremonies. The din of the "culturally sensitive" left's cries was deafening -- "racist," "Islamophobe" and "anti-immigrant" entered the normally polite Canadian discourse.

    What lies next for Canada is bad news for America and especially conservatives.

    Canada under Harper's leadership was a conservative wonderland with balanced budgets, increasingly low taxes and a robust foreign policy aimed at taking on terrorists and bullies the world over. But that is poised to change under the Liberal Party's Trudeau, who promises to run deficits, pull out of the anti-ISIS operation in Iraq and Syria, and re-establish ties with Iran. He also wants to bring 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada.

    Furthermore, although the abortion debate has been "settled" for a generation by repeated diktats from Canada's uber-leftist Supreme Court, Trudeau has stamped out dissent within his own party over abortion, where a thriving anti-abortion wing once existed.

    Without Harper at the helm, the lessons of Canada's miracle -- surviving the financial crisis, balancing budgets, slashing red tape and taxes while maintaining a healthy welfare state -- will be lost to history as Trudeau's Liberals in a fit of pique roll back the gains the Great White North has made.

    Politics is a fickle game and fatigue is a real phenomenon. Harper's achievements will be relegated to the dustbin of history.

    As Shelley's "Ozymandias" reminds us, "Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
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  • harper's call for an early, most expensive election ever, coupled with the BIG money he spent on tv/print commercials aimed at trudeau didn't work for him.
    BUT stopharper.ca worked !
    we, the majority of people who voted, have had enough of that clown.
  • harper's call for an early, most expensive election ever, coupled with the BIG money he spent on tv/print commercials aimed at trudeau didn't work for him.
    BUT stopharper.ca worked !
    we, the majority of people who voted, have had enough of that clown.

    it's pretty crazy how divisive it became. On facebook last night some of my friends were basically calling it the end of Canada. It sounded more like American politics than Canadian. One of my buddies merely stated his support for Liberals and he was lambasted by some of his friends and called all sorts of names and bullshit.

    I just don't get that type of behaviour. I encourage ALL people to vote, so there's a proper representation of what Canada wants in office. i don't give a shit who wins, but it should be majority rules, not the majority of 38% of the people voting. a guy I work with obviously was voting conservative, and all he does it talk about how everyone is going to regret asking for change, blah blah blah. Just shut your mouth and stop taking the loss like it's YOU who lost. it's not. everyone wants the country to be great, we just have different personal investments in what that means. To him, it means keeping more of his money to himself instead of sharing with the community as a whole.

    I'll admit it if Trudeau does a shit job. I gotta admit I'm nervous about how this will look to the world. He's young. he's fresh. he's inexperienced. that might be good, it might not be. we'll wait and see. if he's shitty, he'll get voted out in 4 years.

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