I just assume Trudeau will do kind of a shit job, lol. And I would assume the same if Mulcair had won. And if Harper had won. It's just a matter of who does the least shit job. I mean, people aren't really still naive enough to think any one party can come along and make Canada great, do they? I am personally much more cynical than that when it comes to politics and the economy. However, it is VERY nice to be rid of a leader and a party that was getting all racist and paranoid and focused on weirdo right wing agendas like keeping weed illegal and trying to get some woman to show her face during a ceremony, and muzzling scientists and all that garbage. Even someone as cynical as I am about politics expects better than THAT kind of crap. Also, I think Trudeau's youth is VERY appealing, and I don't think that the rest of world will mind that at all. We desperately needed to get some new youthful enthusiasm into our government after 10 years of Harper. I think Trudeau's youth and energy is one of the best things the Liberal party can bring right now. He is really engaging, he will actually speak to Canadians, which Harper never did, and that is a HUGE change from what we had.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.
his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.
Where do you get the idea that world leaders particularly respect Harper? I've never seen anything to specifically suggest that... Trudeau is 44 years old, almost 45. He's not that young. I don't see why he would have any issues. Wasn't Obama around the same age when he won his first term?? As for his experience... He's lead the Liberal Party for a few years now, and has been a member of Parliament since 2008, and his dad was the PM. I don't think he's particularly inexperienced anymore either (did the Con propaganda work on you just a bit HFD? ). I mean, yeah, he has less experience than the norm for a PM... but I figure that what he DOES bring to the table makes up for that. Judging from world leaders who have a ton of experience and just SUCK (and have had time to build up a nice slimy layer of shadiness) I'm not convinced that really makes too much of a difference anyway!
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.
Where do you get the idea that world leaders respect Harper? I've never seen anything to specifically suggest that... Trudeau is 44 years old, almost 45. He's not that young. I don't see why he would have any issues. Wasn't Obama around the same age when he won his first term??
his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.
Where do you get the idea that world leaders respect Harper? I've never seen anything to specifically suggest that... Trudeau is 44 years old, almost 45. He's not that young. I don't see why he would have any issues. Wasn't Obama around the same age when he won his first term??
I'm talking experience, not age.
I edited to include that issue before I saw this.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.
Where do you get the idea that world leaders particularly respect Harper? I've never seen anything to specifically suggest that... Trudeau is 44 years old, almost 45. He's not that young. I don't see why he would have any issues. Wasn't Obama around the same age when he won his first term?? As for his experience... He's lead the Liberal Party for a few years now, and has been a member of Parliament since 2008, and his dad was the PM. I don't think he's particularly inexperienced anymore either (did the Con propaganda work on you just a bit HFD? ). I mean, yeah, he has less experience than the norm for a PM... but I figure that what he DOES bring to the table makes up for that. Judging from world leaders who have a ton of experience and just SUCK (and have had time to build up a nice slimy layer of shadiness) I'm not convinced that really makes too much of a difference anyway!
if the con propaganda machine had worked on me, I wouldn't have voted for him!
the respect for Harper thing honestly isn't rooted in anything tangible, really, just a feeling I have from stuff I've read.
I don't think his dad being the pm would have had much of an impact on him. he was too young to really get it. to him, his dad would have been a guy with an important job.
like I said, it might work in his favour, it may not. I'm not saying it won't. I'm just saying it will be interesting to watch.
his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.
Where do you get the idea that world leaders particularly respect Harper? I've never seen anything to specifically suggest that... Trudeau is 44 years old, almost 45. He's not that young. I don't see why he would have any issues. Wasn't Obama around the same age when he won his first term?? As for his experience... He's lead the Liberal Party for a few years now, and has been a member of Parliament since 2008, and his dad was the PM. I don't think he's particularly inexperienced anymore either (did the Con propaganda work on you just a bit HFD? ). I mean, yeah, he has less experience than the norm for a PM... but I figure that what he DOES bring to the table makes up for that. Judging from world leaders who have a ton of experience and just SUCK (and have had time to build up a nice slimy layer of shadiness) I'm not convinced that really makes too much of a difference anyway!
if the con propaganda machine had worked on me, I wouldn't have voted for him!
the respect for Harper thing honestly isn't rooted in anything tangible, really, just a feeling I have from stuff I've read.
I don't think his dad being the pm would have had much of an impact on him. he was too young to really get it. to him, his dad would have been a guy with an important job.
like I said, it might work in his favour, it may not. I'm not saying it won't. I'm just saying it will be interesting to watch.
Yes, it will be interesting. I am just glad someone who doesn't have a giant stick up his ass is the PM.
I actually think that his dad being the PM would have had a huge impact on him, both during his time as leader, and long afterwards. Justin was what? 12 when his dad left office? But his dad was still the ex-PM after that. Justin has been around politicians and the work they do all his life. I think that would have a really big impact personally, and it should also help him deal with the media and the public. I think being around that forever actually qualifies as a very unique kind of experience for the position.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.
Where do you get the idea that world leaders particularly respect Harper? I've never seen anything to specifically suggest that... Trudeau is 44 years old, almost 45. He's not that young. I don't see why he would have any issues. Wasn't Obama around the same age when he won his first term?? As for his experience... He's lead the Liberal Party for a few years now, and has been a member of Parliament since 2008, and his dad was the PM. I don't think he's particularly inexperienced anymore either (did the Con propaganda work on you just a bit HFD? ). I mean, yeah, he has less experience than the norm for a PM... but I figure that what he DOES bring to the table makes up for that. Judging from world leaders who have a ton of experience and just SUCK (and have had time to build up a nice slimy layer of shadiness) I'm not convinced that really makes too much of a difference anyway!
if the con propaganda machine had worked on me, I wouldn't have voted for him!
the respect for Harper thing honestly isn't rooted in anything tangible, really, just a feeling I have from stuff I've read.
I don't think his dad being the pm would have had much of an impact on him. he was too young to really get it. to him, his dad would have been a guy with an important job.
like I said, it might work in his favour, it may not. I'm not saying it won't. I'm just saying it will be interesting to watch.
Yes, it will be interesting. I am just glad someone who doesn't have a giant stick up his ass is the PM.
I actually think that his dad being the PM would have had a huge impact on him, both during his time as leader, and long afterwards. Justin was what? 12 when his dad left office? But his dad was still the ex-PM after that. Justin has been around politicians and the work they do all his life. I think that would have a really big impact personally, and it should also help him deal with the media and the public. I think being around that forever actually qualifies as a very unique kind of experience for the position.
I hadn't done the math. I thought he was significantly younger than that when PET left office. but you're right, it has been part of his growing up.
Does anyone else notice that this election win isn't really dominating headlines and newscasts. We just changed our prime minister and the press seems focused on the members who lost their seats (of all parties). It just feels like a collective "holy shit what just happened kind of feel) Listening to various newscasters, djs on the radio there is no real enthusiasm about this change. The vibe around work and relatives had a tangible hum of what did I do? Every single seat in Noval Scotia gone? The ABC was for laymens. Sending people who regularly don't vote with a message of ABC deserves what we have. Now we have one province with no representation whatsoever from other parties. Time for the senate to step up. I don't feel bad for harper losing but I genuinely feel for a majority of mps who were well respected in this country and abroad who lost their seat for no other reason than because zombie voters put an x on ABC
No, I haven't noticed that at all. It has been the #1 headline and #1 topic of conversation all day, and there seems to be a huge sense of enthusiasm and positivity and excitement about the change... I think maybe your disappointment with the results might be colouring your perspective of reality or something?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Does anyone else notice that this election win isn't really dominating headlines and newscasts. We just changed our prime minister and the press seems focused on the members who lost their seats (of all parties). It just feels like a collective "holy shit what just happened kind of feel) Listening to various newscasters, djs on the radio there is no real enthusiasm about this change. The vibe around work and relatives had a tangible hum of what did I do? Every single seat in Noval Scotia gone? The ABC was for laymens. Sending people who regularly don't vote with a message of ABC deserves what we have. Now we have one province with no representation whatsoever from other parties. Time for the senate to step up. I don't feel bad for harper losing but I genuinely feel for a majority of mps who were well respected in this country and abroad who lost their seat for no other reason than because zombie voters put an x on ABC
there was one person on CTV news last night that was saying that a sweep like this is actually bad for democracy, and I somewhat agree it can be problematic, if one party can run roughshod and do whatever they want because they have the numbers to do so. I think the Liberals are going to tread lightly though. They'd be wise to be cautious and reach across the aisle even though they don't have to. they have an excellent opportunity here to gain respect as leaders and a team.
attributing this loss to "zombie voters" isn't giving Trudeau enough credit, or conversely, Harper (and his party) enough blame. The general population, I would hope, aren't swayed by dirty politics, or they were in a negative way (tired of Harper's fear mongering). They genuinely wanted someone who doesn't have a proven record of being a dirty politician who goes against the values that they want in office. Harper did some good things, of course. But he did a lot of really shitty things too.
In my office there doesn't seem to be any hint of regret. Just sour grapes from those who voted conservative.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Does anyone else notice that this election win isn't really dominating headlines and newscasts. We just changed our prime minister and the press seems focused on the members who lost their seats (of all parties). It just feels like a collective "holy shit what just happened kind of feel) Listening to various newscasters, djs on the radio there is no real enthusiasm about this change. The vibe around work and relatives had a tangible hum of what did I do? Every single seat in Noval Scotia gone? The ABC was for laymens. Sending people who regularly don't vote with a message of ABC deserves what we have. Now we have one province with no representation whatsoever from other parties. Time for the senate to step up. I don't feel bad for harper losing but I genuinely feel for a majority of mps who were well respected in this country and abroad who lost their seat for no other reason than because zombie voters put an x on ABC
there was one person on CTV news last night that was saying that a sweep like this is actually bad for democracy, and I somewhat agree it can be problematic, if one party can run roughshod and do whatever they want because they have the numbers to do so. I think the Liberals are going to tread lightly though. They'd be wise to be cautious and reach across the aisle even though they don't have to. they have an excellent opportunity here to gain respect as leaders and a team.
attributing this loss to "zombie voters" isn't giving Trudeau enough credit, or conversely, Harper (and his party) enough blame. The general population, I would hope, aren't swayed by dirty politics, or they were in a negative way (tired of Harper's fear mongering). They genuinely wanted someone who doesn't have a proven record of being a dirty politician who goes against the values that they want in office. Harper did some good things, of course. But he did a lot of really shitty things too.
In my office there doesn't seem to be any hint of regret. Just sour grapes from those who voted conservative.
I think the idea of the "sweep" is more how things changed for the Liberals. Sure, they have a sizable majority but the Cons still have 99 seats so nothing to sneeze at; they'll make their presence known.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Wow, that acceptance speech last night was some kind of awful. 4 years of international embarrassment, here we come.
Impressed with my fellow countrymen and women in the voter turnout. 68% is a whopping turnout for an election in Canada.
Learned a little about Turdo Tit Twister Tax today by looking online. Seems he is creating a fourth tax bracket. If you earn more than $200,000 you will pay 33% more on anything over that amount. So, it means in some provinces when you combine it with provincial tax you may be paying more than HALF your income to the government in income tax alone on anything over $200,000.
All to save someone who makes $89,000 a year a grand total of $670 dollars.
According to 2011 statistics, the top 1% of wage earners in Canada made north of $191,000 dollars.
Having said all this, it would not bother me to pay more taxes if the money was going to be used to build this infrastructure Turdo says we need. However he is going to run deficits for the next three years. Ahhhh the legacy of his "great father"
In 1968, when Trudeau went from rich, socialist professor who had never held a real job in his life to prime minister, Canada's national debt was a modest $11.3 billion; the federal deficit was zero. When Trudeau left office in 1984, the debt had mushroomed to $128 billion; the deficit to $25 billion annually. But this was just the beginning.
Canada's Great Helmsman created a vast bureaucracy, and massive welfare programs to buy votes for his Liberal Party. He restricted trade and free markets, imposing confiscatory taxes.
Ahhhh the institutional elite, always telling us they know better. I only hope Junior doesn't throw us into the same vapid wasteland I grew up in. Anyone remember the 80s or early 90s? All a result of that pompous asshole. Something tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
His military stance is to rob paul to pay peter. The only campaign issue that he spoke to about how he will affect change. The rest of his stances will only happen when things pan out like they "always" do in liberal la la land. The old stock Canadian base has already grown for the next election. It has to in order to make the necessary cuts to pay of the debt that will be amassed in four years which the majority of Canadians voted for by the way -running deficits was a campaign promise. Wow. Earlier I posted about the media has immediately focused on turdos next move not his win. Many ABC voters are wondering what just happened due to their strategic vote they should not have made. You want the job turdo you got it. Now go tell off putin and while your at it tell Obama that you are no longer an ally. 25000 Syrian refuges by xmas? we'll see
the legacy of PET goes way beyond the economics of the time, which were felt not only in canada, but much of the western world, including the US. it wasn't him. it was the global economy. But you'd already know that, wouldn't you?
Charter of Rights and Freedoms anyone? Bilingualism/multiculturalism? Constitution Act?
Yeah they all meant a lot to me when I was making $5.70 an hour slinging Pizza. I mean, I was so elated about bilingualism when I lived on pizza because I barely made enough to pay the rent. It was just awesome to have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms (not signed by Quebec YET) when I barely had a pot to piss in around 1991. The "constitution act" of PET was an amendment and called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "anyone?". I am SURE you are aware as GREAT a man that PET was he was not alive in 1867 when the Constituion Act was signed?
Multiculturalism, well, he certainly gave us that didn't he. Or did he? Historically accurate people would note the National Bill of Rights, passed by Diefenbaker's Tories in 1960 was the beginning of Canada's inclusivity.
The Canadian Bill of Rights protects numerous rights, most of which were later included in the Charter. Examples include:
Freedom of speech in Canada and freedom of religion in Canada (now in Section 2 of the Charter) equality rights (more complete rights are contained in Section 15 of the Charter) The right to life, liberty and security of the person, and in another section, rights to fundamental justice (the Charter combines those rights in Section 7) The right to enjoyment of property, which is not enshrined in the Charter The right to counsel (now in Section 10 of the Charter).
PET just ammended the constitution. These wheels were already in motion. Trudeau revisionists always make me laugh, he was the WORST PM in history, period.
Wow, that acceptance speech last night was some kind of awful. 4 years of international embarrassment, here we come.
Impressed with my fellow countrymen and women in the voter turnout. 68% is a whopping turnout for an election in Canada.
Learned a little about Turdo Tit Twister Tax today by looking online. Seems he is creating a fourth tax bracket. If you earn more than $200,000 you will pay 33% more on anything over that amount. So, it means in some provinces when you combine it with provincial tax you may be paying more than HALF your income to the government in income tax alone on anything over $200,000.
All to save someone who makes $89,000 a year a grand total of $670 dollars.
According to 2011 statistics, the top 1% of wage earners in Canada made north of $191,000 dollars.
Having said all this, it would not bother me to pay more taxes if the money was going to be used to build this infrastructure Turdo says we need. However he is going to run deficits for the next three years. Ahhhh the legacy of his "great father"
In 1968, when Trudeau went from rich, socialist professor who had never held a real job in his life to prime minister, Canada's national debt was a modest $11.3 billion; the federal deficit was zero. When Trudeau left office in 1984, the debt had mushroomed to $128 billion; the deficit to $25 billion annually. But this was just the beginning.
Canada's Great Helmsman created a vast bureaucracy, and massive welfare programs to buy votes for his Liberal Party. He restricted trade and free markets, imposing confiscatory taxes.
Ahhhh the institutional elite, always telling us they know better. I only hope Junior doesn't throw us into the same vapid wasteland I grew up in. Anyone remember the 80s or early 90s? All a result of that pompous asshole. Something tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Yeah they all meant a lot to me when I was making $5.70 an hour slinging Pizza. I mean, I was so elated about bilingualism when I lived on pizza because I barely made enough to pay the rent. It was just awesome to have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms (not signed by Quebec YET) when I barely had a pot to piss in around 1991. The "constitution act" of PET was an amendment and called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "anyone?". I am SURE you are aware as GREAT a man that PET was he was not alive in 1867 when the Constituion Act was signed?
Multiculturalism, well, he certainly gave us that didn't he. Or did he? Historically accurate people would note the National Bill of Rights, passed by Diefenbaker's Tories in 1960 was the beginning of Canada's inclusivity.
The Canadian Bill of Rights protects numerous rights, most of which were later included in the Charter. Examples include:
Freedom of speech in Canada and freedom of religion in Canada (now in Section 2 of the Charter) equality rights (more complete rights are contained in Section 15 of the Charter) The right to life, liberty and security of the person, and in another section, rights to fundamental justice (the Charter combines those rights in Section 7) The right to enjoyment of property, which is not enshrined in the Charter The right to counsel (now in Section 10 of the Charter).
PET just ammended the constitution. These wheels were already in motion. Trudeau revisionists always make me laugh, he was the WORST PM in history, period.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
^^^^^ Your "zip it" emoji isn't working and isn't going to work. The CHARTER you and your forum members love so much gives me my freedom of speech and thought Or is it that you just don't like a good old history lesson?
I am so happy I was able to become successful under the run of Chrétien (Paul Martin A great finance minister) and Harper, because we are in for a bumpy ride. Luckily I have invested wisely and can weather the storm of the next four years.
Wow, that acceptance speech last night was some kind of awful. 4 years of international embarrassment, here we come.
Impressed with my fellow countrymen and women in the voter turnout. 68% is a whopping turnout for an election in Canada.
Learned a little about Turdo Tit Twister Tax today by looking online. Seems he is creating a fourth tax bracket. If you earn more than $200,000 you will pay 33% more on anything over that amount. So, it means in some provinces when you combine it with provincial tax you may be paying more than HALF your income to the government in income tax alone on anything over $200,000.
All to save someone who makes $89,000 a year a grand total of $670 dollars.
According to 2011 statistics, the top 1% of wage earners in Canada made north of $191,000 dollars.
Having said all this, it would not bother me to pay more taxes if the money was going to be used to build this infrastructure Turdo says we need. However he is going to run deficits for the next three years. Ahhhh the legacy of his "great father"
In 1968, when Trudeau went from rich, socialist professor who had never held a real job in his life to prime minister, Canada's national debt was a modest $11.3 billion; the federal deficit was zero. When Trudeau left office in 1984, the debt had mushroomed to $128 billion; the deficit to $25 billion annually. But this was just the beginning.
Canada's Great Helmsman created a vast bureaucracy, and massive welfare programs to buy votes for his Liberal Party. He restricted trade and free markets, imposing confiscatory taxes.
Ahhhh the institutional elite, always telling us they know better. I only hope Junior doesn't throw us into the same vapid wasteland I grew up in. Anyone remember the 80s or early 90s? All a result of that pompous asshole. Something tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Yeah they all meant a lot to me when I was making $5.70 an hour slinging Pizza. I mean, I was so elated about bilingualism when I lived on pizza because I barely made enough to pay the rent. It was just awesome to have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms (not signed by Quebec YET) when I barely had a pot to piss in around 1991. The "constitution act" of PET was an amendment and called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "anyone?". I am SURE you are aware as GREAT a man that PET was he was not alive in 1867 when the Constituion Act was signed?
Multiculturalism, well, he certainly gave us that didn't he. Or did he? Historically accurate people would note the National Bill of Rights, passed by Diefenbaker's Tories in 1960 was the beginning of Canada's inclusivity.
The Canadian Bill of Rights protects numerous rights, most of which were later included in the Charter. Examples include:
Freedom of speech in Canada and freedom of religion in Canada (now in Section 2 of the Charter) equality rights (more complete rights are contained in Section 15 of the Charter) The right to life, liberty and security of the person, and in another section, rights to fundamental justice (the Charter combines those rights in Section 7) The right to enjoyment of property, which is not enshrined in the Charter The right to counsel (now in Section 10 of the Charter).
PET just ammended the constitution. These wheels were already in motion. Trudeau revisionists always make me laugh, he was the WORST PM in history, period.
It's called plagiarism when you copy other people's writings without referencing the source. A person could forgive wiki since it's just a list...but a 15 year old Eric fucking Margolis article? weak sauce.
Yeah they all meant a lot to me when I was making $5.70 an hour slinging Pizza. I mean, I was so elated about bilingualism when I lived on pizza because I barely made enough to pay the rent. It was just awesome to have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms (not signed by Quebec YET) when I barely had a pot to piss in around 1991. The "constitution act" of PET was an amendment and called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "anyone?". I am SURE you are aware as GREAT a man that PET was he was not alive in 1867 when the Constituion Act was signed?
Multiculturalism, well, he certainly gave us that didn't he. Or did he? Historically accurate people would note the National Bill of Rights, passed by Diefenbaker's Tories in 1960 was the beginning of Canada's inclusivity.
The Canadian Bill of Rights protects numerous rights, most of which were later included in the Charter. Examples include:
Freedom of speech in Canada and freedom of religion in Canada (now in Section 2 of the Charter) equality rights (more complete rights are contained in Section 15 of the Charter) The right to life, liberty and security of the person, and in another section, rights to fundamental justice (the Charter combines those rights in Section 7) The right to enjoyment of property, which is not enshrined in the Charter The right to counsel (now in Section 10 of the Charter).
PET just ammended the constitution. These wheels were already in motion. Trudeau revisionists always make me laugh, he was the WORST PM in history, period.
so you can pick and choose what is great about a PM and what is not based on how it affected YOU and not the country at the time?
no revisions here. he has been highly criticized for his economic policy. he is a polarizing figure to be sure. however, the worst PM in history is LAUGHABLE. most historians and scholars consider him to have been one of the BEST.
this just shows you are here to argue and troll rather than discuss. feel free to make some childish comment about my wife now.
Well, his good looks are a whole other matter, apparently! I will admit that, now that I see all this international attention over how "hot" Canada's new PM is (something I honestly hadn't really considered before; I knew he was attractive, but it just didn't register with me that people would actually get all excited about it, hahaha), I have to admit that it's a very nice change after having to look at Harper's cold and icy stare for the past decade! (that said, that photo on the right is a bit weird-looking. Kind of reminds me of Sylvester Stallone)
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Also, I think Trudeau's youth is VERY appealing, and I don't think that the rest of world will mind that at all. We desperately needed to get some new youthful enthusiasm into our government after 10 years of Harper. I think Trudeau's youth and energy is one of the best things the Liberal party can bring right now. He is really engaging, he will actually speak to Canadians, which Harper never did, and that is a HUGE change from what we had.
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the respect for Harper thing honestly isn't rooted in anything tangible, really, just a feeling I have from stuff I've read.
I don't think his dad being the pm would have had much of an impact on him. he was too young to really get it. to him, his dad would have been a guy with an important job.
like I said, it might work in his favour, it may not. I'm not saying it won't. I'm just saying it will be interesting to watch.
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I actually think that his dad being the PM would have had a huge impact on him, both during his time as leader, and long afterwards. Justin was what? 12 when his dad left office? But his dad was still the ex-PM after that. Justin has been around politicians and the work they do all his life. I think that would have a really big impact personally, and it should also help him deal with the media and the public. I think being around that forever actually qualifies as a very unique kind of experience for the position.
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We just changed our prime minister and the press seems focused on the members who lost their seats (of all parties).
It just feels like a collective "holy shit what just happened kind of feel)
Listening to various newscasters, djs on the radio there is no real enthusiasm about this change.
The vibe around work and relatives had a tangible hum of what did I do? Every single seat in Noval Scotia gone? The ABC was for laymens. Sending people who regularly don't vote with a message of ABC deserves what we have.
Now we have one province with no representation whatsoever from other parties. Time for the senate to step up.
I don't feel bad for harper losing but I genuinely feel for a majority of mps who were well respected in this country and abroad who lost their seat for no other reason than because zombie voters put an x on ABC
attributing this loss to "zombie voters" isn't giving Trudeau enough credit, or conversely, Harper (and his party) enough blame. The general population, I would hope, aren't swayed by dirty politics, or they were in a negative way (tired of Harper's fear mongering). They genuinely wanted someone who doesn't have a proven record of being a dirty politician who goes against the values that they want in office. Harper did some good things, of course. But he did a lot of really shitty things too.
In my office there doesn't seem to be any hint of regret. Just sour grapes from those who voted conservative.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Impressed with my fellow countrymen and women in the voter turnout. 68% is a whopping turnout for an election in Canada.
Learned a little about Turdo Tit Twister Tax today by looking online. Seems he is creating a fourth tax bracket. If you earn more than $200,000 you will pay 33% more on anything over that amount.
So, it means in some provinces when you combine it with provincial tax you may be paying more than HALF your income to the government in income tax alone on anything over $200,000.
All to save someone who makes $89,000 a year a grand total of $670 dollars.
According to 2011 statistics, the top 1% of wage earners in Canada made north of $191,000 dollars.
Having said all this, it would not bother me to pay more taxes if the money was going to be used to build this infrastructure Turdo says we need. However he is going to run deficits for the next three years. Ahhhh the legacy of his "great father"
In 1968, when Trudeau went from rich, socialist professor who had never held a real job in his life to prime minister, Canada's national debt was a modest $11.3 billion; the federal deficit was zero. When Trudeau left office in 1984, the debt had mushroomed to $128 billion; the deficit to $25 billion annually. But this was just the beginning.
Canada's Great Helmsman created a vast bureaucracy, and massive welfare programs to buy votes for his Liberal Party. He restricted trade and free markets, imposing confiscatory taxes.
Ahhhh the institutional elite, always telling us they know better. I only hope Junior doesn't throw us into the same vapid wasteland I grew up in. Anyone remember the 80s or early 90s? All a result of that pompous asshole. Something tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
The rest of his stances will only happen when things pan out like they "always" do in liberal la la land.
The old stock Canadian base has already grown for the next election.
It has to in order to make the necessary cuts to pay of the debt that will be amassed in four years which the majority of Canadians voted for by the way -running deficits was a campaign promise. Wow.
Earlier I posted about the media has immediately focused on turdos next move not his win.
Many ABC voters are wondering what just happened due to their strategic vote they should not have made.
You want the job turdo you got it. Now go tell off putin and while your at it tell Obama that you are no longer an ally.
25000 Syrian refuges by xmas? we'll see
Charter of Rights and Freedoms anyone?
Bilingualism/multiculturalism?
Constitution Act?
to name only 3.
gimme a break.
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I only named three as I have four years to compile a list.
Sometimes one has to save their breath.
edit - I thought you meant I only listed three. To that my response stays the same.
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Yeah they all meant a lot to me when I was making $5.70 an hour slinging Pizza.
I mean, I was so elated about bilingualism when I lived on pizza because I barely made enough to pay the rent.
It was just awesome to have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms (not signed by Quebec YET) when I barely had a pot to piss in around 1991.
The "constitution act" of PET was an amendment and called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "anyone?". I am SURE you are aware as GREAT a man that PET was he was not alive in 1867 when the Constituion Act was signed?
Multiculturalism, well, he certainly gave us that didn't he. Or did he?
Historically accurate people would note the National Bill of Rights, passed by Diefenbaker's Tories in 1960 was the beginning of Canada's inclusivity.
The Canadian Bill of Rights protects numerous rights, most of which were later included in the Charter. Examples include:
Freedom of speech in Canada and freedom of religion in Canada (now in Section 2 of the Charter)
equality rights (more complete rights are contained in Section 15 of the Charter)
The right to life, liberty and security of the person, and in another section, rights to fundamental justice (the Charter combines those rights in Section 7)
The right to enjoyment of property, which is not enshrined in the Charter
The right to counsel (now in Section 10 of the Charter).
PET just ammended the constitution. These wheels were already in motion.
Trudeau revisionists always make me laugh, he was the WORST PM in history, period.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Your "zip it" emoji isn't working and isn't going to work. The CHARTER you and your forum members love so much gives me my freedom of speech and thought
Or is it that you just don't like a good old history lesson?
I am so happy I was able to become successful under the run of Chrétien (Paul Martin A great finance minister) and Harper, because we are in for a bumpy ride.
Luckily I have invested wisely and can weather the storm of the next four years.
Nope, Mulclueless didn't win
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bill_of_Rights
It's called plagiarism when you copy other people's writings without referencing the source. A person could forgive wiki since it's just a list...but a 15 year old Eric fucking Margolis article? weak sauce.
I'll show myself out.
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no revisions here. he has been highly criticized for his economic policy. he is a polarizing figure to be sure. however, the worst PM in history is LAUGHABLE. most historians and scholars consider him to have been one of the BEST.
this just shows you are here to argue and troll rather than discuss. feel free to make some childish comment about my wife now.
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How could you not elect Wyatt Scott as your new king ...
(that said, that photo on the right is a bit weird-looking. Kind of reminds me of Sylvester Stallone)