Trayvon Martin

Godfather.

http://soundcloud.com/producermatthew/s ... il-house-1


Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

the Zimmermans are lying, deceiving pricks:

Prosecutors argued that the Zimmermans were speaking in code on the phone calls, which they knew were recorded — using $10 in their conversations to represent $1,000 — to mask the large transactions.
"In my account, do I have at least $100?" Zimmerman asks his wife in a conversation on April 16.
"There's, like, $8," she says.
"OK, so total, everything, how much are we looking at?" he asks.
"Um, like, $155," she answers.
In other conversations he instructs her to transfer increments of $10 from his account to hers and to the account of his sister, Suzie. He also tells her to pay off the bills, including a Sam's Club credit card, American Express and Walmart.
Prosecutors allege the couple was moving money out of an Internet PayPal account that they referred to as "Peter Pan," as it was flooded with donations, the Orlando Sentinel reported, citing prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda.

On Monday, prosecutors also released the couple's bank statements, showing a series of transfers between the PayPal account and their personal accounts, the Sentinel reported.
The couple made sure the transfers were under $10,000. Transactions of amounts larger than $10,000 within a given 24-hour period must be reported to the IRS.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... llege?lite

In the calls, Zimmerman asks his wife to buy bulletproof vests for the two of them and for defense attorney O’Mara, because of concerns for their safety in the racially and emotionally charged case.

"As uncomfortable as it is, I want you wearing one," Zimmerman told his wife. He was wearing a bulletproof vest when he left jail after posting bond later in April. O'Mara has reported receiving threats.

Maybe he should've told Treyvon to buy a bullet prof vest too. Too bad he wasnt as concerned for Treyvon as he is for his wife and lawyer.

pandora

Not how to win friends nor influence people...

Want to see someones true colors give them an unexpected windfall of cash.
People think they would be ethical, surprising how money, greed changes people,
lying being the least of all that.

Jason P

The police chief at the center of this was fired. Although he offered his resignation in April and the city rejected it. Now the city has to pay him severance.

Sounds like total political logic to me. This is what happens when you don't care about profit.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-chief-fired-over-trayvon-martin-shooting-101637029.html

ComeToTX

George Zimmerman's Reenactment of Trayvon Martin Shooting (VIDEO)

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmermans- ... ories.html

norm

In the months since the death of Trayvon Martin, the public has seen a steady stream of evidence and analysis. But most of that revealed little about the mind-set of his shooter, George Zimmerman.

For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford neighborhood Feb. 26.

His defense team released recorded interviews Thursday in which police question Zimmerman in the days after the shooting, before the controversial case drew any substantial media attention or public outcry, and before Zimmerman had a lawyer.

One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.

Prosecutors say the unarmed 17-year-old from Miami Gardens was an innocent victim of profiling. Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder, says he fired during a struggle for his life.

'Something was off about him'

In his video re-enactment for Sanford police the day after the shooting, Zimmerman explained why he found Trayvon suspicious.

Trayvon was in the yard of Frank Taaffe, a Neighborhood Watch buddy whose town house had recently been burglarized.

The teen was in the grass, not on the sidewalk, Zimmerman told officers.

"He was just leisurely looking at the house," Zimmerman said. "That's what threw me off. It's raining. I didn't understand why somebody would be just stopping in the rain."

Zimmerman drove past, he said, then parked a few feet away while he talked to a dispatcher on a police nonemergency line.

"I said, you know, it's better to just call," he said.

Trayvon walked past Zimmerman's pickup, looked at him then disappeared, Zimmerman said.

During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that's not true.

Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.

Trayvon "came down and circled my car. … He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.

One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?

Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "… then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."

'On drugs. Why?'

For months, that nonemergency call to police, released March 16, has been the public's best glimpse into Zimmerman's state of mind.

Among the recordings released Thursday was an interview conducted three days after the shooting in which detectives asked Zimmerman what he was thinking and doing moment by moment during the call.

In it, Zimmerman said Trayvon looked like he's "on drugs or something."

"On drugs. Why?" asked Sanford police Investigator Chris Serino, after playing that portion of the call.

"Oh, because he just kept looking around, looking behind and looking, just kept shifting where he was looking," he told Serino.

When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.

"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.

Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.

"It sounds like you're looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."

Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying — Zimmerman or Trayvon — has been hotly debated.

"That doesn't even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It's unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn't recognize it.

'Just tonight?'

"I'm just going to keep quiet, and you tell me the story," Investigator Doris Singleton told Zimmerman, in an interview hours after the shooting. "You tell me what happened tonight."

Zimmerman's reply: "Just tonight?"

Zimmerman's account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.

In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.

"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."

Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."

"I had called before, and the police had come out," he said later in the interview, "but these guys know the neighborhood very well, and they would cut in between buildings and lose ..."

Singleton interrupted: "You're saying these guys, who are these guys?"

"The people committing the burglaries," Zimmerman replied.

Zimmerman told Singleton that he knew every Retreat at Twin Lakes resident and had never seen Trayvon before Feb. 26.

Within minutes of that first encounter, the two were on the ground fighting. Zimmerman was bloodied, and Trayvon was killed. The question of who initiated their conflict is at the crux of the controversy.

Serino handed the case off to prosecutors recommending a manslaughter charge but made no arrest. Special Prosecutor Angela Corey has since charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... dispatcher

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Is this still an ongoing legal matter :fp:

ComeToTX

According to Zimmerman he thinks Trayvon is on drugs, he's circling his car and has something in his waistband? But he still gets out of his car. Right....

Indifference

Apparently passed a lie detector:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/geo ... tor-421395

JonnyPistachio

Indifference wrote:

Apparently passed a lie detector:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/geo ... tor-421395

Of course he did. He doesnt think he did anything wrong. He didnt plan on killing Treyvon until he found himself in a terrible situation, that he created...it was only then that he decided to unholster his gun, aim it at a person's heart, and pull the trigger.

But then again, we dont need a test to show that he lied about how old he thought Treyvon was or how much money he was trying to be deceiving to the courts about.

norm

"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman. If Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog in an effort to dispel each party's concern," the detective wrote in a police affidavit.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/det ... 23670.html

ComeToTX

A Texas man convicted of shooting and killing his unarmed neighbor during a dispute over loud music received a 40-year prison sentence on Wednesday.
Raul Rodriguez, 47, faced a minimum of five years and a maximum of life in prison.  He claimed he shot schoolteacher Kelly Danaher in self-defense under Texas' version of the "stand your ground" law.
But prosecutors argued Rodriguez provoked the incident by confronting Danaher, 36, and his friends with a handgun and demanding they quiet down at a late-night birthday party in May 2010.
The Houston case captured more attention in the wake of Trayvon Martin's death in Florida. There, George Zimmerman says he was being attacked and cited the state's "stand your ground" law after shooting the unarmed teen. But prosecutors charged him with second-degree murder.
Two dozen states reportedly now allow citizens to stand their ground even outside their home. The specifics vary by state, but generally justify a person not retreating and using deadly force when a threat is perceived.
As in Florida, Texas law includes public areas, "if a person has a right to be present at a location where force is used."
But veteran attorney Andy Drumheller told Yahoo News that the Houston jury appeared to draw a line with Rodriguez leaving his home and going down the street.
"The law is not designed to create this bubble that you can carry with you everywhere you go," said Drumheller, a former prosecutor now practicing criminal defense in Houston. "The jury's verdict is a cautionary statement on the limits of this defense."
The Rodriguez case is also unique because the former firefighter was recording video during much of the ordeal.
Rodriguez, who had been calling police about the loud party, dialed 911 again as both sides shouted at each other near Danaher's dark driveway.
"Tell you what, pal, you just pulled a gun on the wrong [expletive], OK?" one of the partygoers is heard telling Rodriguez on the home video.
Seconds later the partygoer warns, "When I go in that house and I come back, don't think I won't be equal to you, baby."
Rodriguez, who told police he suspected the men were drunk, tells the 911 operator that he's scared and will defend himself, if needed.
"I don't want to do this, and it all started over them playing their music real loud … it's about to get out of hand, Sir. Please help me. "
Seconds later, he says, "I'm standing my ground here, now these people are going to try and kill me."
The video is dark when Danaher and two other men apparently lunged toward him, laughing loudly. Rodriguez fired his gun, killing Danaher and injuring two others.
In lobbying jurors for a lenient sentence, defense attorney Bill Stradley blamed the tragedy on his client's misunderstanding of the state's "stand your ground" law. Something he predicts will happen with other Texas gun owners in the future.
"And they will find themselves, like Raul Rodriguez, charged with murder," said Stradley, according to the Houston Chronicle.
"Raul believed he had a right to be where he was. But he had two seconds to make that call, to pull that trigger."

norm

George Zimmerman talked to Sanford police a half-dozen times, going over what happened the night he killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. In the retelling, parts of his story changed. His account also does not line up with other evidence.

Here are some of the most prominent inconsistencies:

Where the confrontation happened

In his first recorded interview with police the night of the Feb. 26 shooting, Zimmerman said Trayvon popped out at him from "the bushes."

By the time he re-enacted the shooting less than 24 hours later, however, Zimmerman was much more precise, and the spot he pointed out had no bushes nearby.

As he walked police through what happened where, he said Trayvon approached him from his left rear and at a spot near the intersection of two sidewalks.

What Trayvon said

In that first taped interview with Sanford police Investigator Doris Singleton, Zimmerman said that when he and Trayvon came face to face on that sidewalk, Trayvon said, "What the [expletive][is] your problem, homey?"

During the next 24 hours, Zimmerman's version of what Trayvon said would change slightly, becoming less offensive with each telling.

In another interview later that night, he told Investigator Chris Serino that Trayvon said, "You got a problem?"

During the re-enactment the next afternoon, he told police that Trayvon yelled, "Yo, you got a problem?"

Also, a 16-year-old Miami girl told prosecutors she heard something different. She said she was on the phone with Trayvon at the time and heard him say, "What are you following me for?"

Dispatcher asked him to find Trayvon

After first spotting Trayvon and dialing a nonemergency police number, Zimmerman parked his truck while he talked with the dispatcher, asking that an officer come to the scene.

While still on the line, he drove a short distance down the street before parking again.

Why did he move his truck?

During the re-enactment the day after the shooting, Zimmerman told detectives it was because he had lost sight of the 17-year-old, and the dispatcher asked him to find him.

A review of Zimmerman's recorded call with the dispatcher, though, shows there was no such request.

Did he follow Trayvon?

In his call to police before the shooting, Zimmerman can be heard huffing and puffing as if he had been running or walking fast.

"Are you following him?" the dispatcher asked.

"Yeah," Zimmerman answered.

"OK, we don't need you to do that," the dispatcher said.

"OK," Zimmerman said.

But after the shooting, he offered a different reason for getting out of his truck. Serino pressed him for an explanation three days later.

I was "just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said. He had exited his truck, he said, to get a street address for authorities.

"Did you pursue the kid? Did you want to catch him?" Serino asked.

"No," said Zimmerman.

Serino challenged him further: "How do you not know the three streets in your neighborhood [where] you've been living for three years?"

Zimmerman replied that he had a bad memory and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder.

Other inconsistencies

Investigators also pointed out to Zimmerman in a Feb. 29 interrogation several other discrepancies, but he did not clear them up:

•He had said that during their struggle, Trayvon covered Zimmerman's nose and mouth with his hands, but in a recorded 911 call from a neighbor in which someone can be heard screaming for help, none of the cries sound muffled.

•Zimmerman had injuries but not ones that matched the severity of the attack he described, according to Serino. If Trayvon had been banging Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer should have had skull fractures, not just cuts, Serino said.

•There were no defensive wounds on Zimmerman's hands and just one small scrape on a finger of Trayvon's left hand, Serino said — little evidence of life-and-death struggle.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... her-police

JonnyPistachio

norm wrote:

George Zimmerman talked to Sanford police a half-dozen times, going over what happened the night he killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. In the retelling, parts of his story changed. His account also does not line up with other evidence.

Here are some of the most prominent inconsistencies:

Where the confrontation happened

In his first recorded interview with police the night of the Feb. 26 shooting, Zimmerman said Trayvon popped out at him from "the bushes."

By the time he re-enacted the shooting less than 24 hours later, however, Zimmerman was much more precise, and the spot he pointed out had no bushes nearby.

As he walked police through what happened where, he said Trayvon approached him from his left rear and at a spot near the intersection of two sidewalks.

What Trayvon said

In that first taped interview with Sanford police Investigator Doris Singleton, Zimmerman said that when he and Trayvon came face to face on that sidewalk, Trayvon said, "What the [expletive][is] your problem, homey?"

During the next 24 hours, Zimmerman's version of what Trayvon said would change slightly, becoming less offensive with each telling.

In another interview later that night, he told Investigator Chris Serino that Trayvon said, "You got a problem?"

During the re-enactment the next afternoon, he told police that Trayvon yelled, "Yo, you got a problem?"

Also, a 16-year-old Miami girl told prosecutors she heard something different. She said she was on the phone with Trayvon at the time and heard him say, "What are you following me for?"

Dispatcher asked him to find Trayvon

After first spotting Trayvon and dialing a nonemergency police number, Zimmerman parked his truck while he talked with the dispatcher, asking that an officer come to the scene.

While still on the line, he drove a short distance down the street before parking again.

Why did he move his truck?

During the re-enactment the day after the shooting, Zimmerman told detectives it was because he had lost sight of the 17-year-old, and the dispatcher asked him to find him.

A review of Zimmerman's recorded call with the dispatcher, though, shows there was no such request.

Did he follow Trayvon?

In his call to police before the shooting, Zimmerman can be heard huffing and puffing as if he had been running or walking fast.

"Are you following him?" the dispatcher asked.

"Yeah," Zimmerman answered.

"OK, we don't need you to do that," the dispatcher said.

"OK," Zimmerman said.

But after the shooting, he offered a different reason for getting out of his truck. Serino pressed him for an explanation three days later.

I was "just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said. He had exited his truck, he said, to get a street address for authorities.

"Did you pursue the kid? Did you want to catch him?" Serino asked.

"No," said Zimmerman.

Serino challenged him further: "How do you not know the three streets in your neighborhood [where] you've been living for three years?"

Zimmerman replied that he had a bad memory and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder.

Other inconsistencies

Investigators also pointed out to Zimmerman in a Feb. 29 interrogation several other discrepancies, but he did not clear them up:

•He had said that during their struggle, Trayvon covered Zimmerman's nose and mouth with his hands, but in a recorded 911 call from a neighbor in which someone can be heard screaming for help, none of the cries sound muffled.

•Zimmerman had injuries but not ones that matched the severity of the attack he described, according to Serino. If Trayvon had been banging Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer should have had skull fractures, not just cuts, Serino said.

•There were no defensive wounds on Zimmerman's hands and just one small scrape on a finger of Trayvon's left hand, Serino said — little evidence of life-and-death struggle.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... her-police

Can it be any more obvious that the guy was looking for a confrontation?

gimmesometruth27

zimmerman had another bail hearing this morning. i wonder how that is going to turn out :think:

peacefrompaul

"Judge sets $1M bail for George Zimmerman"

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... -on-bond/1

gimmesometruth27

norm

so you lie to the court about how much money you have for bail, get caught and all the judge does is up the bail? and require him to wear a tracking device? :fp:

gimmesometruth27

norm wrote:

so you lie to the court about how much money you have for bail, get caught and all the judge does is up the bail? and require him to wear a tracking device? :fp:

i would have set it at

peacefrompaul

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

norm wrote:

so you lie to the court about how much money you have for bail, get caught and all the judge does is up the bail? and require him to wear a tracking device? :fp:

i would have set it at

Yeah, you have to be careful with that stuff.