Industries have problems there's a compassionate statement
I've said my piece I know what is immoral and heinous and I think
many here do too. It is not art nor freedom of speech to condone raping
women, children and animals. That was not the intent in the Constitution.
I for one am glad Santorum has attacked this issue and hope he and the like
have some success with banning the gross of the gross.
I think it can only improve the porn industry to have the very hard core element
removed both for viewers and those working in the industry.
It can only help America to rid itself of this kind of stuff that is bringing our country down
that is not soft porn but the porn that is sexually violent or directed at children
one child abducted raped and murdered is one too many whatever the crime statistics
Industries have problems there's a compassionate statement
I've said my piece I know what is immoral and heinous and I think
many here do too. It is not art nor freedom of speech to condone raping
women, children and animals. That was not the intent in the Constitution.
I for one am glad Santorum has attacked this issue and hope he and the like
have some success with banning the gross of the gross.
I think it can only improve the porn industry to have the very hard core element
removed both for viewers and those working in the industry.
It can only help America to rid itself of this kind of stuff that is bringing our country down
that is not soft porn but the porn that is sexually violent or directed at children
one child abducted raped and murdered is one too many whatever the crime statistics
in loving memory of Danielle Van Dam
Is displaying it condoning it?
Do the producers of Criminal Minds condone murder every time it's on TV? What about Scarface? Godfather (and no, not our right wing friend!)?
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
In order to have freedoms you have to take the good with the bad and make the choice you feel is best.........
..Your morality isn't the end all be all, and fortunately we have rights and freedoms that cannot be infringed upon by people with the idea that their morality should be the only one allowed.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Some here are very quick to defend to the hilt freedom of speech, even when propos held are racist, homophobic, etc. claiming that one has the right to their beliefs. But, as soon as it's something they don't agree with, this claim seems to be reneged upon..
Yep its just like the WBC and the decision to not stop them from protesting.
Do the leaders deserve to be run over by a freight train? In my opinion, yes.
But if you stop them from protesting then you set the precedent that you can stop anyone from protesting
Industries have problems there's a compassionate statement
I've said my piece I know what is immoral and heinous and I think
many here do too. It is not art nor freedom of speech to condone raping
women, children and animals. That was not the intent in the Constitution.
I for one am glad Santorum has attacked this issue and hope he and the like
have some success with banning the gross of the gross.
I think it can only improve the porn industry to have the very hard core element
removed both for viewers and those working in the industry.
It can only help America to rid itself of this kind of stuff that is bringing our country down
that is not soft porn but the porn that is sexually violent or directed at children
one child abducted raped and murdered is one too many whatever the crime statistics
in loving memory of Danielle Van Dam
Is displaying it condoning it?
Do the producers of Criminal Minds condone murder every time it's on TV? What about Scarface? Godfather (and no, not our right wing friend!)?
no no no dont be bringing the godfather into it... those movies were about family. the violence was incidental.
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yep it is ... I am requiring a change in mindset one from enjoying viewing cruelty,
slaughter, degradation, humiliation, brutality, and inhumanity.
Let's be humane, novel thought.
I guess I had better throw away a lot of good movies. My favorite, Saving Private Ryan is done, it's brutal, and shows slaughter. Better throw away my Pearl Jam records... Some of the songs degrade the Iraq War, politicians, etc. I had better kiss that movie The Patriot goodbye. It's pretty brutal, I mean, a head gets blown off.
yep it is ... I am requiring a change in mindset one from enjoying viewing cruelty,
slaughter, degradation, humiliation, brutality, and inhumanity.
Let's be humane, novel thought.
I guess I had better throw away a lot of good movies. My favorite, Saving Private Ryan is done, it's brutal, and shows slaughter. Better throw away my Pearl Jam records... Some of the songs degrade the Iraq War, politicians, etc. I had better kiss that movie The Patriot goodbye. It's pretty brutal, I mean, a head gets blown off.
Or maybe I just missed the sarcasm.
was it a character we cared about or just some random soldier? ... and was he a confederate or a yankee??... that can make all the difference.
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was it a character we cared about or just some random soldier? ... and was he a confederate or a yankee??... that can make all the difference.
Ha it's about the American Revolution. A Continental Army soldier got his head ripped off by a cannon ball and another soldier gets his legs taken out in the same scene.
the people responding have acknowledged the "trash, garbage, not for me"
of hard corn porn yet defend because of fear ... fear of loss of rights when actually
it would be exercising the right to say no to a society that is based in devaluing the life
of another human being, based in degradation and the grotesque violence of women and children.
yep it is ... I am requiring a change in mindset one from enjoying viewing cruelty,
slaughter, degradation, humiliation, brutality, and inhumanity.
Let's be humane, novel thought.
I guess I had better throw away a lot of good movies. My favorite, Saving Private Ryan is done, it's brutal, and shows slaughter. Better throw away my Pearl Jam records... Some of the songs degrade the Iraq War, politicians, etc. I had better kiss that movie The Patriot goodbye. It's pretty brutal, I mean, a head gets blown off.
Or maybe I just missed the sarcasm.
was it a character we cared about or just some random soldier? ... and was he a confederate or a yankee??... that can make all the difference.
You had me until the Patriot.
But that's another thread all together.
What is everyone talking about? It doesn't make sense to compare shows and movies to violence-themed porn. 99% of the shows on TV and most movies too that address criminal violence address it in the context of STOPPING it and how atrocious it is, not encouraging it. That is not the case with rape porn, etc. But anyway, I think that someone who would rape someone or kill someone or whatever would do it regardless of what media they watched. If it wasn't a movie or violent porn that encouraged then it would be something else (I would like to Pontiac out that beastiality porn is not technically legal now, as the acts are considered animal abuse in most states). I still think the focus on whether or not porn is something to defend should be on the real human beings that it harms - the actual actors in the porn. Someone said that's not relevant to this discussion, butler I think it is if we're discussing whether or not people are negatively impacted by it.
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was it a character we cared about or just some random soldier? ... and was he a confederate or a yankee??... that can make all the difference.
Ha it's about the American Revolution. A Continental Army soldier got his head ripped off by a cannon ball and another soldier gets his legs taken out in the same scene.
oh of course it was. beg my pardon at the sudden brainfart. still.. was it a random soldier?
even tho he was an arsehole in that film, jason isaacs has since become one of my fave actors.
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What is everyone talking about? It doesn't make sense to compare shows and movies to violence-themed porn. 99% of the shows on TV and most movies too that address criminal violence address it in the context of STOPPING it and how atrocious it is, not encouraging it. That is not the case with rape porn, etc. But anyway, I think that someone who would rape someone or kill someone or whatever would do it regardless of what media they watched. If it wasn't a movie or violent porn that encouraged then it would be something else (I would like to Pontiac out that beastiality porn is not technically legal now, as the acts are considered animal abuse in most states). I still think the focus on whether or not porn is something to defend should be on the real human beings that it harms - the actual actors in the porn. Someone said that's not relevant to this discussion, butler I think it is if we're discussing whether or not people are negatively impacted by it.
and i repeat my unanswered question... have you(generally speaking... not you in particular pj soul) not heard of rape fantasies?
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Would just like to point you all back to my post about the porn industry - there are things to consider besides the "morality" of porn. Things that I think are more important... There are terrible things going on the porn industry that are harming human beings... until those things are fixed, porn should be considered carefully by those who choose to watch. For me it has nothing to do at with what is portrayed in porn (couldn't care less about that). It's what's actually happening to the real people who are working in the porn industry.
OK... I'm a real person working in the porn industry and I can tell you that I saw a LOT more sexual harassment, drug abuse, sexism, corporate greed and under-handed business practices when I had a corporate job in purchasing.
The stories that most people run around telling about the porn industry are mostly made up, exaggerated to absurdity or very isolated.
I love my job, I would have no other job and I can tell you that I treat all of my stars with the upmost of respect. Your name is all you have in this industry and if word got out that I treated anyone badly, I'd have trouble getting people to work for the studios that I work for again.
So please... don't believe that we're a bunch of perverts and rapists... we're not Priests.
you would be amazed at what is illegal porn-wise in certain places...
I have a friend whose job at sexyland actually used to be to watch new deliveries from o/s to look for anything that they wouldn't be allowed to sell over here...
eg, you can say fuck me but not fuck you
spanking, parafin wax and so on I have friends who know more about it than I do, but certainly the issue in AUS is that ratings for both film and games do not go high enough
I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
was it a character we cared about or just some random soldier? ... and was he a confederate or a yankee??... that can make all the difference.
Ha it's about the American Revolution. A Continental Army soldier got his head ripped off by a cannon ball and another soldier gets his legs taken out in the same scene.
oh of course it was. beg my pardon at the sudden brainfart. still.. was it a random soldier?
even tho he was an arsehole in that film, jason isaacs has since become one of my fave actors.
We have to do three separate edits of our movies for different territories.
In the UK, you can't put your hand on the back of someone's head while they're.... um... "having a word with the customer service department." That's considered "forced" and is illegal. We can't have "water sports" in other cuts because other territories won't' allow that.
And because you can't buy physical copies of porn movies in UTAH, that's the #1 state for on-line sales and it isn't even close. Even with a relatively small population, Utah sells more than California and Texas combined in online porn and WOW, you should see the stuff those people watch.
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In the UK, you can't put your hand on the back of someone's head while they're.... um... "having a word with the customer service department." That's considered "forced" and is illegal...
is this for both male and female?? or can men not be forced to speak with customer service?? or are you just speaking for the gay porn?
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...
In the UK, you can't put your hand on the back of someone's head while they're.... um... "having a word with the customer service department." That's considered "forced" and is illegal...
is this for both male and female?? or can men not be forced to speak with customer service?? or are you just speaking for the gay porn?
You do understand I'm talking about oral sex, right?
...
In the UK, you can't put your hand on the back of someone's head while they're.... um... "having a word with the customer service department." That's considered "forced" and is illegal...
is this for both male and female?? or can men not be forced to speak with customer service?? or are you just speaking for the gay porn?
You do understand I'm talking about oral sex, right?
yeah i think i got that. funny man.
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Having your hand on the back of the "oral sex performer" while they're performing oral sex on you... that's considered "forcing" sex and it's illegal to depict in the UK in adult movies.
The last studio I worked for was not allowed to distribute my wrestling series there, either because I worked wrestling holds and men being "pinned" into some of the action. And that's against the law there.
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I've said my piece I know what is immoral and heinous and I think
many here do too. It is not art nor freedom of speech to condone raping
women, children and animals. That was not the intent in the Constitution.
I for one am glad Santorum has attacked this issue and hope he and the like
have some success with banning the gross of the gross.
I think it can only improve the porn industry to have the very hard core element
removed both for viewers and those working in the industry.
It can only help America to rid itself of this kind of stuff that is bringing our country down
that is not soft porn but the porn that is sexually violent or directed at children
one child abducted raped and murdered is one too many whatever the crime statistics
in loving memory of Danielle Van Dam
Do the producers of Criminal Minds condone murder every time it's on TV? What about Scarface? Godfather (and no, not our right wing friend!)?
slaughter, degradation, humiliation, brutality, and inhumanity.
Let's be humane, novel thought.
Do the leaders deserve to be run over by a freight train? In my opinion, yes.
But if you stop them from protesting then you set the precedent that you can stop anyone from protesting
there goes a good percentage of hollywoods output. add violence tot hat and hollywood may have to start paying attention to the actual story lines.
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no no no dont be bringing the godfather into it... those movies were about family. the violence was incidental.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I guess I had better throw away a lot of good movies. My favorite, Saving Private Ryan is done, it's brutal, and shows slaughter. Better throw away my Pearl Jam records... Some of the songs degrade the Iraq War, politicians, etc. I had better kiss that movie The Patriot goodbye. It's pretty brutal, I mean, a head gets blown off.
Or maybe I just missed the sarcasm.
was it a character we cared about or just some random soldier? ... and was he a confederate or a yankee??... that can make all the difference.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Ha it's about the American Revolution. A Continental Army soldier got his head ripped off by a cannon ball and another soldier gets his legs taken out in the same scene.
of hard corn porn yet defend because of fear ... fear of loss of rights when actually
it would be exercising the right to say no to a society that is based in devaluing the life
of another human being, based in degradation and the grotesque violence of women and children.
You had me until the Patriot.
But that's another thread all together.
What of it?
oh of course it was. beg my pardon at the sudden brainfart. still.. was it a random soldier?
even tho he was an arsehole in that film, jason isaacs has since become one of my fave actors.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
and i repeat my unanswered question... have you(generally speaking... not you in particular pj soul) not heard of rape fantasies?
take a good look
this could be the day
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All I can say is that first...
THIS LINK MAY CONTAIN NSFW PICTURES..
http://business.avn.com/company-news/Ja ... 68039.html
So now that we've gotten that out of the way...
Porn will always be legal, we're the whole reason that the internet exists.
OK... I'm a real person working in the porn industry and I can tell you that I saw a LOT more sexual harassment, drug abuse, sexism, corporate greed and under-handed business practices when I had a corporate job in purchasing.
The stories that most people run around telling about the porn industry are mostly made up, exaggerated to absurdity or very isolated.
I love my job, I would have no other job and I can tell you that I treat all of my stars with the upmost of respect. Your name is all you have in this industry and if word got out that I treated anyone badly, I'd have trouble getting people to work for the studios that I work for again.
So please... don't believe that we're a bunch of perverts and rapists... we're not Priests.
For the record, I'm a vegan and I think raising animals to eat them is inhumane.
But spanking someone who enjoys getting spanked... that's just a fun way to spend Thursdays.
perhaps we can get real
I have a friend whose job at sexyland actually used to be to watch new deliveries from o/s to look for anything that they wouldn't be allowed to sell over here...
eg, you can say fuck me but not fuck you
spanking, parafin wax and so on I have friends who know more about it than I do, but certainly the issue in AUS is that ratings for both film and games do not go high enough
Yes it was a random soldier
In the UK, you can't put your hand on the back of someone's head while they're.... um... "having a word with the customer service department." That's considered "forced" and is illegal. We can't have "water sports" in other cuts because other territories won't' allow that.
And because you can't buy physical copies of porn movies in UTAH, that's the #1 state for on-line sales and it isn't even close. Even with a relatively small population, Utah sells more than California and Texas combined in online porn and WOW, you should see the stuff those people watch.
Yow.
and we thank you for it.
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is this for both male and female?? or can men not be forced to speak with customer service?? or are you just speaking for the gay porn?
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and here i was thinking it was just harmless fun.
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You do understand I'm talking about oral sex, right?
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Having your hand on the back of the "oral sex performer" while they're performing oral sex on you... that's considered "forcing" sex and it's illegal to depict in the UK in adult movies.
The last studio I worked for was not allowed to distribute my wrestling series there, either because I worked wrestling holds and men being "pinned" into some of the action. And that's against the law there.
people get... weird about their porn.